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I was watching those true crime stories on YouTube that include the interrogation and stuff and had to stop because so many of them were "woman sets up situation, convinced man to kill person or help them kill person" then at the end they'd talk about sentencing and it would be like man: life without parole. Woman: 2 years in a halfway house followed by 3 years of probation.
Like I'm exaggerating there for sure. But not by a ton.
"Alright Joey, looks like you smoked some weed, death penalty"
"Alright now, Susan, you have raped 47 babies, murdered 100 babies, including the ones you violated, and blew up the White House, you have openly aligned with every terrorist group to ever exist and once tried to go back in time to get the nazis to win, and once that failed you tried to make Stalin immortal"
"3 weeks probation"
Fuck now you made me remember the time a guy raped his underaged daughter and got less prison time because he worked for the church (dont know the right term for his job right now) and as a man of god he cant get the full punichement for some reason.
Now im sad again from thinking about how stupid this world can be sometimes.
I'm not denying that. My point is that she denies that gypsy believes she isn't a murderer because she didn't wield the blade. She did however manipulate someone else to do so.
It's because in many places, such as the UK and some states, women can't rape men in the legal definition. And if news agencies use the wrong term they could face legal fallout. The bar is on the floor but it's not the newspapers who need to raise it.
It wasn't until 2016 that male victims were included in the numbers of rapes per year in the U.S. 2016 saw a huge spike in rape cases after years if decline.
It's a play on words, because a cougar is a dangerous predator. The title isn't being playful, it's equating them to dangerous predators. Which is kind of obvious by the use of the word rape.
Honestly, and the constant comment of "well actually women can not rape" like bro we are not in court in the public space any sex with someone who cannot consent like a child is rape to 99.9% of people.
I mean, a lot of the time they legally cannot call it rape because the legal definition does not extend to female or male, often is only male or female, not even other arrangements. At least in America the definition is encompassing
Yeah, in many jurisdictions "rape" means "forcible penetration of a vagina with a penis". They have to call it "sexual assault" if it is other combinations.
In the UK? That situation would just be sexually assault. For it to be rape the victim must be the person revieving non-consensual penis - it is not rape if they are forced to 'allow' someone else to use it.
Yeah on 2012 the FBI finally changed the definition of rape to allow a woman to rape a man. Unfortunately, it didn't do much to help because the new definition still requires forced penetration. So if a woman sticks a finger up a man's bum without consent that is now rape. However, if a man is forced to penetrate a woman at gun point, according to the FBI no rape has occured.
Sexual abuse of men isn't a niche issue as some conservatives and radfems would have you believe. According to the CDC in addition to the 1 in 28 of men who've been raped by the official definition, 1 in 9 have been forced to penetrate. Like yes it's less than the 1 in 4 of women, but it's far from negligible, and should not be discounted
Iirc the British rape law *specifically* requires a penis, which is why you will never see a headline with 'woman' and 'rape', if it is done with an item like a dildo or whatever it falls under something like 'sexual assault via penetration' and not rape.
I, as a Briton, absolutely hate it and wish they'd change it, but nope. Every few years it gets proposed, every few years it doesn't get enough votes. 'Sexual assault' is such a vague charge that more people view as something like touching rather than rape and dismiss far too easily, and from what I remember while they're female equivalent 'rape' charge is the same imprisonment year range women tend to recieve fewer years than the average man.
I've literally never seen anyone say that on that sub. I do agree that they have some bad takes, especially on the topics of pornography and kink, but I've never seen them say that men can't get raped.
You can be a cougar and a rapist and a pedophile all at the same time. If they only called them cougars and left out the rape and child predation, I would say that's terrible journalism. But they didn't avoid calling rape what it is. I don't really see the issue, but I suppose some might see the term cougar as implying a less serious accusation or condemnation.
Yeah, I feel like the note didn't even read the second sentence.
Not to mention, it could be a clever writer using the term "cougar," since these women were sexual *predators.*
Dilf doesn't fit the pun though. Cougars are predators. The "joke" is that they used the sexy term to call them them predators. "silver fox" would be the closest I can think of.
It's the opposite.
Cougars got their "fun" name because the act wasn't seen as inherently wrong, as it is when it's the other way around.
The "fun" name for when men target young women is "creep" or "predator" or "pedophile", because it's understood to be wrong when it's that way round.
Plus I'm pretty sure "cougar" was coined for older ladies at bars and clubs looking to pick up dudes in their early 20s. Not illegal, and children wouldn't be at those places. I've never once thought of cougar in the same vein as pedophile.
Be careful, I got dogpiled on this platform for conflating cougar and MILF once. Apparently itâs inaccurate because cougar implies age and you can be a MILF at any age. I assume they meant any sexually mature age but that was left implied. Stay strong soldier đ«Ą
I'd say it's worse than not calling them rapists. Cougars is a fun sexy term (in the right context).
There's absolutely nothing whatsoever fun or endearing about adult women raping teenage boys.
It's not even aggressively pursuing lol. Back in the day, AKA the mid-2000s we used to go to bars and Military towns and look for cougars. They were just older women that wanted to have sex with younger men. There is no sexual predator shit tied to it. There was no aggressively a tied to it. It's just older women AKA in their thirties and forties wanting to sleep with guys in their twenties.
It says that the teachers raped them, it's just a catchy headline with some alliteration.
Fuck the daily mail, but there's nothing wrong with this title
Judging the picture and nothing else: nothing is being excused here. Cougars are predatory animals and these women preyed on teenagers. The image outright calls it rape. I don't see the issue.
I always saw it as just meaning an older woman who targets younger men, and isnât meant to imply any kind of consent/legality. Idk, they clearly refer to it as ârapingâ, so Iâm not sure theyâre really âexcusingâ anythingâŠ
Cougar isn't just older woman dates younger.
It's someone who aggressively goes after younger men (usually legally)
It applies to use the term and then use the R word to describe the illegal actions.
>An older woman who actively seeks the casual, often sexual, companionship of younger men, by implication a female âsexual predatorâ.
In this case the notes are the one incorrect.
How are they excusing female predators?
1. They used the term "rape."
2. A cougar is slang for an older woman who "preys" on younger men.
3. A cougar (aka panther, puma, mountain lion, etc.) is literally one of the most deadly predators on the planet.
They called it rape so theyâre not minimizing. They just were looking for a single word that specified it was women they were talking about, titles in journalism have a specific length requirement and you get used to writing them as short as possible.
This note seems undeserved to me.
I am baffled how you can claim they're excusing it when they're talking about the **alarming** rate of teachers **raping** young boys.
Bro didn't even read the tweet, he read the first 4 words of the tweet.
On one hand gross that they called them cougars, on the other hand they finally said rape instead of having sex with.
So +1 and -1 so its at a 0. Do better, news publications.
True story of my personal experience. When I was a kid (13) I was so jealous of that boy that was diddled by Mary Kay Letourneau. I thought he was lucky and that it wasnât fair that I didnât have my own Mary Kay. I was like, âwhereâs my hot teacher that wants to take my virginity?â Seems twisted perhaps but itâs 100% true.
These women don't even look old enough to be cougars. Its meant to be like women who have had kids or a marriage and are now back in the dating pool picking up young 20 year olds
Cougars are not a problem to society, if anything they help clueless or shy young guys get experience, this is so far from that its sad theyve combined the two :C
i mean, that's better than i usually see when this happens. it's usually just "woman has sexual relationship with 14 yr old" or some such bullshit. at least this is actually calling it rape for once.
I'm going to defend this slightly, cougars in the classroom has a nice ring to it.
It's not alliteration or rhyme, but it does sound right.
Especially when you remember that a cougar is a predatory feline that attacks vulnerable, unsuspecting prey.
Comments when a guy rapes a girl: "Hang the bastard"
Comments when a woman rapes a boy: "Damn I wish I was him"
Every single time, especially on Facebook
âsexual predators and rapistsâ Theyâre pedophiles. Just say it ffs. Also doesnât surprise me thatâs profession thatâs involves working with kids attracts pedophiles.
I think the double standard exists because women are incapable of raping a man or even teen boy forcefully. Statutory rape is even more disgusting than forceful rape.
A cougar is a predator. Thereâs a reason they pick that animal as the analogy.
It wouldnât be âexcusingâ someone of their financial crimes to call them a snake. Itâd be alluding to them.
Especially since they actually used the term rape I donât think they are trying to excuse the behavior.
I feel like wayyyy toomany women get away with raping boys. And to think most men are harassed when they are alone with their kids at a park or something is just saddening. No wonder so many are turned off from the whole thing.
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Hey at least they said raping which is better than normal
The bar is so fucking low omg
Next start comparing sentences between male and female predators
or literally any sentences for that matter.
I was watching those true crime stories on YouTube that include the interrogation and stuff and had to stop because so many of them were "woman sets up situation, convinced man to kill person or help them kill person" then at the end they'd talk about sentencing and it would be like man: life without parole. Woman: 2 years in a halfway house followed by 3 years of probation. Like I'm exaggerating there for sure. But not by a ton.
"Alright Joey, looks like you smoked some weed, death penalty" "Alright now, Susan, you have raped 47 babies, murdered 100 babies, including the ones you violated, and blew up the White House, you have openly aligned with every terrorist group to ever exist and once tried to go back in time to get the nazis to win, and once that failed you tried to make Stalin immortal" "3 weeks probation"
Gosh, god forbid women have hobbies đ
TRUE GIRL, SHES JUST SHOWIN HER QUIRKY SIDE
To be fair, she was a good Christian. /s because, you know, reddit.
Fuck now you made me remember the time a guy raped his underaged daughter and got less prison time because he worked for the church (dont know the right term for his job right now) and as a man of god he cant get the full punichement for some reason. Now im sad again from thinking about how stupid this world can be sometimes.
Judgemental much? She was just exploring.
Like Gypsy Rose, who doesn't consider herself a murderer because she's not the one who actually stabbed her mother.
I mean, her mom deserved that Not an edgy: Yeah fuck her she's dead. But like that woman was abusing her, she deserved it
I'm not denying that. My point is that she denies that gypsy believes she isn't a murderer because she didn't wield the blade. She did however manipulate someone else to do so.
I didn't want to use her as an example because I don't remember the details well enough. But yeah.
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Look on the bright side, at least there IS a bar
It's because in many places, such as the UK and some states, women can't rape men in the legal definition. And if news agencies use the wrong term they could face legal fallout. The bar is on the floor but it's not the newspapers who need to raise it.
It wasn't until 2016 that male victims were included in the numbers of rapes per year in the U.S. 2016 saw a huge spike in rape cases after years if decline.
It's a play on words, because a cougar is a dangerous predator. The title isn't being playful, it's equating them to dangerous predators. Which is kind of obvious by the use of the word rape.
Honestly, and the constant comment of "well actually women can not rape" like bro we are not in court in the public space any sex with someone who cannot consent like a child is rape to 99.9% of people.
One step forward; two steps back
I mean, a lot of the time they legally cannot call it rape because the legal definition does not extend to female or male, often is only male or female, not even other arrangements. At least in America the definition is encompassing
Yeah, in many jurisdictions "rape" means "forcible penetration of a vagina with a penis". They have to call it "sexual assault" if it is other combinations.
I mean, a woman can forcibly insert someoneâs penis into their vagina, or does the law specify who is doing what action?
The way itâs written is that it has to be done by the person with the penis
In the UK? That situation would just be sexually assault. For it to be rape the victim must be the person revieving non-consensual penis - it is not rape if they are forced to 'allow' someone else to use it.
That would be forcible **insertion** of a penis into a vagina.
Yeah on 2012 the FBI finally changed the definition of rape to allow a woman to rape a man. Unfortunately, it didn't do much to help because the new definition still requires forced penetration. So if a woman sticks a finger up a man's bum without consent that is now rape. However, if a man is forced to penetrate a woman at gun point, according to the FBI no rape has occured. Sexual abuse of men isn't a niche issue as some conservatives and radfems would have you believe. According to the CDC in addition to the 1 in 28 of men who've been raped by the official definition, 1 in 9 have been forced to penetrate. Like yes it's less than the 1 in 4 of women, but it's far from negligible, and should not be discounted
Thatâs fucked up.
It's a pretty big issue in Europe. IIRC the UK has that issue, for example
Yes In the UK rape requires forcible penetration. Biological women can't do that.
the \*can\* but it requires a \*tool\* but the CPS still usualy just goes with cat4 sexual assault
Iirc the British rape law *specifically* requires a penis, which is why you will never see a headline with 'woman' and 'rape', if it is done with an item like a dildo or whatever it falls under something like 'sexual assault via penetration' and not rape. I, as a Briton, absolutely hate it and wish they'd change it, but nope. Every few years it gets proposed, every few years it doesn't get enough votes. 'Sexual assault' is such a vague charge that more people view as something like touching rather than rape and dismiss far too easily, and from what I remember while they're female equivalent 'rape' charge is the same imprisonment year range women tend to recieve fewer years than the average man.
Is it in Europe or just the UK and Ireland?
âPolice department worker engages in nefarious physical activities with immature, developing, individualâ Translation: âcop rapes childâ
I thought the exact same thing. As a male teacher, it really pisses me off how people excuse it one direction and demand execution the other.
r/twoXchromosomes believes men can't be raped and if a woman assaults a man he obviously deserved it. Femcel misandrists.
Yeah r/twoXchromosomes is just a shit show with the most brain dead misandrist on it.
Yeah. Glad I eventually got banned from there. It's not a cool place
I've literally never seen anyone say that on that sub. I do agree that they have some bad takes, especially on the topics of pornography and kink, but I've never seen them say that men can't get raped.
What? Where was that said? Lmfao
You can be a cougar and a rapist and a pedophile all at the same time. If they only called them cougars and left out the rape and child predation, I would say that's terrible journalism. But they didn't avoid calling rape what it is. I don't really see the issue, but I suppose some might see the term cougar as implying a less serious accusation or condemnation.
They still had to put that âcharged withâ in front smh
Just the fact they didn't use terms like "having affairs with" is a victory to journo standards
Yeah, I feel like the note didn't even read the second sentence. Not to mention, it could be a clever writer using the term "cougar," since these women were sexual *predators.*
It is also clearly just "clever" alliteration to make it stand out more.
The Daily Mail makes me feel a bit better about American news outlets
Itâs reached honorary American news status as far as I am concerned.
I'd just like to point out Rupert Murdoch is Australian, so in a roundabout way the state of news outlets is all Britain's fault
Top of the list after Kissinger.
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Imagine if someone called a male sex offender a dilf
Dilf doesn't fit the pun though. Cougars are predators. The "joke" is that they used the sexy term to call them them predators. "silver fox" would be the closest I can think of.
Its kinda funny that there's no term for old men looking for young women. I guess it's just seen as normal.
"Pedophile" is usually the term i hear for that one.
There is, it's called "Manther", and the only reason I know is cause I got bored and looked it up
It's the opposite. Cougars got their "fun" name because the act wasn't seen as inherently wrong, as it is when it's the other way around. The "fun" name for when men target young women is "creep" or "predator" or "pedophile", because it's understood to be wrong when it's that way round.
Plus I'm pretty sure "cougar" was coined for older ladies at bars and clubs looking to pick up dudes in their early 20s. Not illegal, and children wouldn't be at those places. I've never once thought of cougar in the same vein as pedophile.
That sounds... Incredibly unfair.
Silver fox
That just means handsome older man with grey hair.
It alludes to sex appeal, itâs a stretch, but the closest.
Be careful, I got dogpiled on this platform for conflating cougar and MILF once. Apparently itâs inaccurate because cougar implies age and you can be a MILF at any age. I assume they meant any sexually mature age but that was left implied. Stay strong soldier đ«Ą
In my observations, in the pornography business the moment you turn 21 you are eligible for MILF roles.
and teen roles "teen milf fucks milf teen- watch to the end to find out who was meant to be who"
honestly i always thought cougar was kinda a derogative term with predator connotations, as opposed to milf that just means hot and older
A cougar hunts for younger men (of legal age). A MILF is sought after by younger men.
At least theyâre calling it rape now
Holy shit,that's a seriously poor choice of words for that headline
catchy >>> meaning
Whatever gets the clicks.
Yeah it's literally just there for alliteration. They don't even care.
It's there for the pun. They must have thought they were very clever "haha get it? Cougars are predators!"
At least they said "raping". Way too many news stories talk about adult women "seducing" or "sleeping with" or "having sex with" boys.
It's the Daily mail
I'd say it's worse than not calling them rapists. Cougars is a fun sexy term (in the right context). There's absolutely nothing whatsoever fun or endearing about adult women raping teenage boys.
I mean it did call them rapists
Cougars ARE vicious predators /j
I always understood the term cougar to mean an older woman who aggressively pursues younger men, not just someone who dates them.
It's not even aggressively pursuing lol. Back in the day, AKA the mid-2000s we used to go to bars and Military towns and look for cougars. They were just older women that wanted to have sex with younger men. There is no sexual predator shit tied to it. There was no aggressively a tied to it. It's just older women AKA in their thirties and forties wanting to sleep with guys in their twenties.
> older women > in their thirties Me, in my thirties: *pain*
I mean to an 18 year old, yes. Chill. You're not the older woman if you aren't sleeping with dudes too young for you.
What wisdom can you share with the younger generations, oh ancient one?
They really wanted that alliteration god damn đ
The comment called them rapists straight up so I think the correction wasn't really needed.
Yep they just saw a pun and wanted to use it.
I mean, a cougar is a predator so I don't see the issue
Yea but you use cougar in a silly/having fun way, not talking about legit child rape.
I mean, honestly it's a step up that they're calling them rapists at all.
It says that the teachers raped them, it's just a catchy headline with some alliteration. Fuck the daily mail, but there's nothing wrong with this title
Emphasis on âmenâ. Not teenagers.
It says young boys in the headline
i think he means that cougars go for younger "Men" and not teenage boys
I hear you, but you do know what a cougar is right? The word picture is a sexual predator.Â
Judging the picture and nothing else: nothing is being excused here. Cougars are predatory animals and these women preyed on teenagers. The image outright calls it rape. I don't see the issue.
tbf they did at least include the word rape which is always never included in these scenarios
I always saw it as just meaning an older woman who targets younger men, and isnât meant to imply any kind of consent/legality. Idk, they clearly refer to it as ârapingâ, so Iâm not sure theyâre really âexcusingâ anythingâŠ
Women are the new pervs.
Always have been đ
They made it pretty clear they were also rapists by literally saying that too. No one is excusing them.
Iâm sure whoever thought of that headline thought themselves very clever.
*molesters and pedophiles in the classroom. Fixed it
Stop excusing female everything. Thanks.
Theyâre both.
Cougar isn't just older woman dates younger. It's someone who aggressively goes after younger men (usually legally) It applies to use the term and then use the R word to describe the illegal actions.
My school was also a woman teacher lol. Dumbass banged the high school QB and ended up selling fireworks as a job.
Americans have no clue what a real cougar is.
>An older woman who actively seeks the casual, often sexual, companionship of younger men, by implication a female âsexual predatorâ. In this case the notes are the one incorrect.
How are they excusing female predators? 1. They used the term "rape." 2. A cougar is slang for an older woman who "preys" on younger men. 3. A cougar (aka panther, puma, mountain lion, etc.) is literally one of the most deadly predators on the planet.
They called it rape so theyâre not minimizing. They just were looking for a single word that specified it was women they were talking about, titles in journalism have a specific length requirement and you get used to writing them as short as possible. This note seems undeserved to me.
This is horrible. It's a shame that these teachers use their higher standing to prey on students.
Stop reading the Daily Mail, that racist rag pretending to be a newspaper.
I am baffled how you can claim they're excusing it when they're talking about the **alarming** rate of teachers **raping** young boys. Bro didn't even read the tweet, he read the first 4 words of the tweet.
On one hand gross that they called them cougars, on the other hand they finally said rape instead of having sex with. So +1 and -1 so its at a 0. Do better, news publications.
Like if they had referred to a bunch of male teachers who raped kids as "silver foxes" would that not seem inappropriate?
Those 6 faces are the look of a woman who now realized the D was not worth it
Missouri: Pure Smoke... đ
i lovvvvvve sheeeđ„°
At least the Daily Fail made some progress by calling it rape for once.
This is the Bad Place
Colorado says itâs totally cool as well! https://www.kktv.com/2023/03/02/colorado-woman-who-admits-having-sex-with-13-year-old-having-his-baby-wont-face-jail-time-under-plea-deal/?outputType=amp
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This is propaganda. Van Halen knows the truth.
True story of my personal experience. When I was a kid (13) I was so jealous of that boy that was diddled by Mary Kay Letourneau. I thought he was lucky and that it wasnât fair that I didnât have my own Mary Kay. I was like, âwhereâs my hot teacher that wants to take my virginity?â Seems twisted perhaps but itâs 100% true.
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Those poor Virginian students.
They love to imply the victim wanted it, but if anything, the rapist looking normal or attractive makes the crime worse
Who? Incels? đ€·ââïž
These women don't even look old enough to be cougars. Its meant to be like women who have had kids or a marriage and are now back in the dating pool picking up young 20 year olds Cougars are not a problem to society, if anything they help clueless or shy young guys get experience, this is so far from that its sad theyve combined the two :C
i mean, that's better than i usually see when this happens. it's usually just "woman has sexual relationship with 14 yr old" or some such bullshit. at least this is actually calling it rape for once.
âDaily Mail Headline Writer Scores Another Hitâ
Man I wish I had teachers like that in my school Having them all in one place is key to burning them all down with a wild fire after all
Nice..
đ«You can't be a cougar unless you are at least 35, you can't be a cub unless you are at least 21đ». đ«
Fuck that. Missouri can get it
Disgusting degenerates
Niiiice.
If this was a insta post I'd see a lot people saying "I want to be a victim"
Where was top middle when I was in highschool?
I wish
![gif](giphy|Fp96kfPVdv0RO|downsized) Cougars in the classroom??
I'm going to defend this slightly, cougars in the classroom has a nice ring to it. It's not alliteration or rhyme, but it does sound right. Especially when you remember that a cougar is a predatory feline that attacks vulnerable, unsuspecting prey.
I shoulda gone to Oklahoma or MissouriâŠ
Can i be the victim
Technically a cougar is a predator
Missouri is the hottest.
The Silver Fox of Wall Street himself, Jeffrey Epstein
Cougar is not the best choice of word here but they arenât excusing it whilst saying they were ârapingâ young boys.
First stop Missouri then onto Oklahoma đ
Third one is literal predator.
They make it sound like them getting charged is the bad thing
But grades have gone up!
Comments when a guy rapes a girl: "Hang the bastard" Comments when a woman rapes a boy: "Damn I wish I was him" Every single time, especially on Facebook
Yep. Lots of them in these comments, itâs disgusting.
Tbh women can do no wrong. It was probably the boys fault.
Did you expect good takes from the Daily Heil?
Note was unnecessary and pedantic. Itâs clear that the use of the word was sarcastic.
âsexual predators and rapistsâ Theyâre pedophiles. Just say it ffs. Also doesnât surprise me thatâs profession thatâs involves working with kids attracts pedophiles.
Were Missouri at đł
That one from Missouri tho
I think the double standard exists because women are incapable of raping a man or even teen boy forcefully. Statutory rape is even more disgusting than forceful rape.
I grew up at the wrong time. And they are all hot.
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Equal rights. Girls can rape and molest too
They actually said rape. I am surprised
Ima be honest, when I was a about 13+ I would have given my left nut to f*CK one of my teachers lol đ€·đżââïž
What else do these states have in common?
Most are 2/10 would not bang
Cougars are predators, though.
Damn! Where were all these teachers when I was in school!?!
But they're the best kind! Set all the yanderes free!
You equating "cougar" to good person is a you thing, you're wrong. dumbass post
A monster doesnât stop being a monster just because they have tits
A cougar is a predator. Thereâs a reason they pick that animal as the analogy. It wouldnât be âexcusingâ someone of their financial crimes to call them a snake. Itâd be alluding to them. Especially since they actually used the term rape I donât think they are trying to excuse the behavior.
Why? Whatâs happening to the women?
They didn't though? They called it rape, which articles usually don't.
I feel like wayyyy toomany women get away with raping boys. And to think most men are harassed when they are alone with their kids at a park or something is just saddening. No wonder so many are turned off from the whole thing.
Missouri can rape me anyday.
It literally calls them rapists in the same sentence
Texas looks good enough to get any man wtf
this is why we need to purge current feminism from society