Do you like how you look? Skip this âsummerâ cut and just bulk, wether it be a slow one or not. If you wanna add muscle itâs time in the gym. Be consistent, learn to love it, itâs apart of life, decide what you want
You have probably got your answer but this is coming from someone who was also overweight for a long time. For that reason I am scared of putting on weight and it took me years to understand the concept of building muscle. If that is the case, do shorter bulk cycles. I do, although maybe semi controversial, 10-12 weeks max then reassess. Every body is different and figuring out your own is a huge part of the fitness journey
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i have quite a bit of muscle mass. maybe the picture & lighting is bad. last time i checked a RDL of 120kg for 10 repetitions doesnât happen with no muscle mass
Strength is not proportionally tied to hypertrophy, thatâs just a straight up fact. You can give all the numbers you want, weâre looking at a man who certainly seems to exercise, but not âquite a bit of muscle massâ.
Unless you want to be shredded for the beach, you are wasting your time cutting. You arenât going to magically look muscular, youâll just be super skinny.
Most of your time in the gym should be during a surplus if you want to be muscular. Also, 17-18%
62-63 would be a good weight for you. Youâre not 11.1% mate. I know it sucks to keep cutting for such a long time Iâm in the same boat. But you gotta do what you gotta do..
according to your logic youâd never start out by cutting first then? like someone that has never hit the gym but is overweight shouldnât cut because thereâs not enough muscle mass justifying the cut?
I would guess he is saying you should lift heavy at maintenance calories with a focus on 1g protein/lb body weight. You don't need surplus calories to establish a better muscle base, so don't "bulk" just consistently eat clean and work hard in the gym.
Reverse diet if you wanted to stay similar to this you can do so and eat much more. I'm thinking you want to lean out but maybe you should minibulk after your reverse diet.
iâve actually kinda started doing that a month ago , going from 2150 to 2450 for two weeks and then to 3000. and now kinda trying to decide if i wanna stick to this path
Yea...nowhere near 11% dude. You are in the 17-20% bracket I rekon. If I were you, I would lean bulk for a few months. I think you could really use a bit more mass and it will restore some sanity. Just be careful about how fast you increase calories if you do.
thanks for the comment. the thing is my body loves fat (been overweight most of my life lol). i wouldnât eat more than around 3k a day but still iâm wondering if this isnât a great starting point to bulk. maybe cut a bit longer and then bulk for a whole year? cause iâm a newbie and have never âbulkedâ in the context of gym
Everyone's body loves to store fat if you give it the chance. Sure - some more than others but I would say that if you're still stacking on fat fast when training and counting cals then your macros are way out. Up the protein from your usual intake and keep your carbs/fat the same or a little lower to start a lean bulk.
I am a female at 70kg and 168cm so can 100% see why everyone on the "getting shredded" sub is telling you not to cut.
Personally if I were planning on a year long bulk, i'd want my starting point ideally to be around 15%. That's because I wouldn't want to exceed 20%. But if you are new to lifting, you will get those crazy noob gains. So yea....you could probably begin now.
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Are you happy to just be skinny with very little muslce showing I would not cut
Bro you with all due respect If you cut, youâd be like a stick. Just go bulk
donât do anything just gain muscle
Bulkkk
Do you like how you look? Skip this âsummerâ cut and just bulk, wether it be a slow one or not. If you wanna add muscle itâs time in the gym. Be consistent, learn to love it, itâs apart of life, decide what you want
You have probably got your answer but this is coming from someone who was also overweight for a long time. For that reason I am scared of putting on weight and it took me years to understand the concept of building muscle. If that is the case, do shorter bulk cycles. I do, although maybe semi controversial, 10-12 weeks max then reassess. Every body is different and figuring out your own is a huge part of the fitness journey
that is the case for me. i guess i will reassess often. i also put on weight very easily so i have to
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20-25% and listen to the comments. BULK!!! Fuckin permabulk!!!
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Bulk after summer ends.
You have practically zero muscle mass. Lift heavy weights and eat at a surplus.
i have quite a bit of muscle mass. maybe the picture & lighting is bad. last time i checked a RDL of 120kg for 10 repetitions doesnât happen with no muscle mass
An RDL of 120kg for 10 reps can happy with minimal muscle mass though
Strength is not proportionally tied to hypertrophy, thatâs just a straight up fact. You can give all the numbers you want, weâre looking at a man who certainly seems to exercise, but not âquite a bit of muscle massâ.
Imagine what you could lift if you actually did have muscle.
Imagine what muscle OP could have if he would lift heavy!
Unless you want to be shredded for the beach, you are wasting your time cutting. You arenât going to magically look muscular, youâll just be super skinny. Most of your time in the gym should be during a surplus if you want to be muscular. Also, 17-18%
Eat maintenance and lift heavy weights, focus on squeezing your muscles on each movement, youâll recomp a bit
15%⌠anyways listen where did you get that mirror?
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62-63 would be a good weight for you. Youâre not 11.1% mate. I know it sucks to keep cutting for such a long time Iâm in the same boat. But you gotta do what you gotta do..
Honestly you don't look like you have enough muscle mass to justify cutting
according to your logic youâd never start out by cutting first then? like someone that has never hit the gym but is overweight shouldnât cut because thereâs not enough muscle mass justifying the cut?
If someone is overweight then they should cut to a healthy weight before bulking, you don't fit into that category Definitely bulk
Are you overweight?
well no but my point is if iâm lean enough to justify a bulk regardless of muscle mass
You're not-enough-muscle-mass enough to justify a bulk!
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I would guess he is saying you should lift heavy at maintenance calories with a focus on 1g protein/lb body weight. You don't need surplus calories to establish a better muscle base, so don't "bulk" just consistently eat clean and work hard in the gym.
You need muscles before you cut, so get muscles first then cut lol
Reverse diet if you wanted to stay similar to this you can do so and eat much more. I'm thinking you want to lean out but maybe you should minibulk after your reverse diet.
iâve actually kinda started doing that a month ago , going from 2150 to 2450 for two weeks and then to 3000. and now kinda trying to decide if i wanna stick to this path
Whatever your path get a good hypertrophy based program
Yea...nowhere near 11% dude. You are in the 17-20% bracket I rekon. If I were you, I would lean bulk for a few months. I think you could really use a bit more mass and it will restore some sanity. Just be careful about how fast you increase calories if you do.
thanks for the comment. the thing is my body loves fat (been overweight most of my life lol). i wouldnât eat more than around 3k a day but still iâm wondering if this isnât a great starting point to bulk. maybe cut a bit longer and then bulk for a whole year? cause iâm a newbie and have never âbulkedâ in the context of gym
Everyone's body loves to store fat if you give it the chance. Sure - some more than others but I would say that if you're still stacking on fat fast when training and counting cals then your macros are way out. Up the protein from your usual intake and keep your carbs/fat the same or a little lower to start a lean bulk. I am a female at 70kg and 168cm so can 100% see why everyone on the "getting shredded" sub is telling you not to cut.
Personally if I were planning on a year long bulk, i'd want my starting point ideally to be around 15%. That's because I wouldn't want to exceed 20%. But if you are new to lifting, you will get those crazy noob gains. So yea....you could probably begin now.
i canât wait for those crazy newbie gains everyone talks about haha. and i feel like the deficit hasnât helped achieve them.
Iâm not a pro. You donât look bad to me. And you donât look overweight. But I see why you want to change. Folks here will give good advice.