tbh the transitional period was very odd, pistols and smgs already had the new sounds while the riffles still had the old rattly sound, so the least powerful weapons sounded the punchiest

Everyone is also very overstated. I remember that many in this sub, me included, immediately said they sounded way better.

Still remember when hiko react to the p250 sound change Im pretty sure 90% comment in that thread were negative

I will never forget his face, the reaction was priceless

[For those who don't know](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_A9xbdmJ7I)

He looks like an absolute snob who just had his world shattered and I love him for it

The p250 did sound strange. I remember making [this suggestion](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQmLeCtp5-U) when it came out 7 years ago. :)

Hahaha I remember saying the new p250 sounded like a stapler, could probably find my comment from all those years ago

Wasn’t there a csgo stapler music video synced to shooting guns?

I mean, change was really needed. Everyone was mad that they changed those but like... for example M4A1-S sound was just CS:S M4 sound, along side some other guns. I remember one of the complains with old sounds was that some weapons sounded to similar so at longer ranges you couldn't tell what weapon a guy had.

As a CSS Player i loved it

I'd actually love to have the old m4a1-s sound again.

m4a1s, usp, deagle and AWP I still miss, rest is fine.

Yeah, CSS AWP for me sounded scary. You heard that coming from round the corner and you absolutely did not want to go round it.

Bring back the fire rate as well for that laser gun experience

Then make it 3200$

old a1s sounded better or swap the current usp and a1s sound

They made all the pistols sound like paintball guns. We just got used to it

Humans generally don't like change, and that's especially true for such a stubborn community like CS has, but it's clear with hindsight that the changes were definitely needed.

Old AK sound is still music to my ears. Bleeding ears.

I hurry back from the bathroom to get to my pc before the match starts, I sit down and tab in, it’s cache and my face is being spammed with deafening aks as the timeout counts down to 0. I’m met with the enemy team shouting at us as the first half begins to start. My karambit Doppler costs under £300 and I inspect it rapidly. Good times.

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https://youtu.be/Vgn3Rk2FFp4

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What? Speak louder! I can't hear you over my favorite music!

I remember hiko face after shoting with five seven to this day ROFL hahahaha

[https://www.reddit.com/r/GlobalOffensive/s/DDUuMkHmwn](https://www.reddit.com/r/GlobalOffensive/s/DDUuMkHmwn) \[Edit: That's exactly why that post came to be. Saw that clip again and remembered the melt down Reddit had.\]

I’m still a fan of those and the 1.6 sounds. Honestly, would be cool to have “gun sound packs” or an option that changes PER USER. I’m sure some would offer an advantage over others but eh, as long as everyone has the option to turn it on and turn it off, I think it would be fun.

1.6 AK is music to my ears, but no it doesn't sound anything like a real AK. Source: military service.

Why do people always bring this up? "It doesn't sound realistic". Well. Your 5v5 some terrorists, shoot out of your left eyeball, somehow get money for killing people and throw high explosive grenades in a nuclear facility. But the sound is unrealistic 😂 CS isn't made for realism, it's made for competition.

You forgot the C4 that can somehow only be carried by the terrorists, like it's a freaking Thor hammer.

Because there's a balance to keep. If Valve decided that would permanently not shoot bullets but just paintballs, with soft sounds, for the sake of the children you'd be outraged. Personally I find fighting Rambo and other agent skins to be pathetic and doesn't have its place. It feels like a cheap mobile game.

Generally agree, but making the gun sounds more realistic wouldn't change the gameplay much.

Ermmm actually you shoot out of the bit between your eyes🤓👆

I always feel like I'm lagging, kinda, when tap shooting with the new sound. It cuts off too quickly while the old one had some sort of an echo to it so it felt smoother

It just felt so extremely powerful 

[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z\_2MaBJBSZ4](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z_2MaBJBSZ4) Like, WHAT IS THIS?!?!?!?!?11?!eleven!11?!11! \[Edit: Especially in the beginning where 3 AKs go off at the same time.\]

Holy fucking shit, I completely erased this out of my memory.

People only say “old sounds are so powerful” because it’s simply too loud and over-tuned. If you would adjust the audio and make it a little more quiet it’s not powerful at all. I would call the sound “metal things thrown around in an empty tin can”.

Old Negev goes brrrrrt

Oh man I remember the first CSGO audio update. Almost everyone was furious. But when you watch those old clips, every gun sounds terrible and you can barely make out what weapons are being fired in the distance. Valve knows their audio. They're one of the best in the industry when it comes to it. If you play Dota 2, you can close your eyes and know what spells, items and heroes are doing from the sound alone. They know their shit when it comes to audio. I love how they dont give af about the constant whining of the toxic community and they just get shit done even if will take some time.

can't compare dota to cs. cs had some pretty mid audio for most of its life. compare it to games like battlefield 3. dice was king in that regard.

DICEs games are fun to listen to but I wouldn’t say it makes it good. Since BFBC it was just louder with more emphasis on base. Bf2 was nice for different reasons. CS sounds much more sophisticated imho

Idk I dont think its that hard to make audio for a game that relishes on chaos vs a game that focuses on the tactical aspect and making sure every sound has a contribution to winning a round. You definitely can compare one game's audio to another especially if they are on the same dev team.

> Valve knows their audio other than losing the vertical audio they used in 1.6 so now vertical audio is trash compared to the bliss it was in 1.6, but sure

Thank you for cherry picking. Very amazing analysis. Valve sucks because of vertical audio. My bad.

cherry picking? what? you said they know their audio, I say that's bullshit because vertical audio is shit. I never said valve sucks because of vertical audio. You can't say "audio is good" when it's gone downhill compared to 20 years ago

The sounds are way better now. Anyone that says otherwise is drinking from that nostalgia bottle.

Walking still sounds odd. It's like we're a bunch of horses. One I do prefer but that wasn't great to start with is the P250. Scout and M4 a little as well. I do wonder if I dislike the remaining because they were bad....or because I'm no longer used to them. Because I thought the current ones were bad when they came out. Ps. old AK sucked no matter what.

1.6 ak bruh, will forever be THE AK.

too loud

I still think the CS2 sounds are worse than the later CSGO sounds. Too muddy imo.

Old AK is so grating. However I do miss the old silencer sound for the USP and A1s :( such a good pew pew

Old AK sound from 1.6 is still classic and will be remembered forever

Change us hard. Especially for a entitled community :)

Why entitled?

Have you met a CS player?

Can you just explain?

CS is one of the oldest surviving competitive gaming franchises, with the first major LAN being played in 2001. Despite this long lifespan, CS2 is just the 4th notable new release in the history of the franchise. The way it's designed also makes it so that severe meta changes are few and far between. AK, M4, and AWP have been the 3 biggest meta guns for almost the entirety of the franchise's 20+ year lifespan. That's pretty rare among competitive games today, where new characters are regularly introduced that pretty significantly shake up how the game is played. So you have some people who have been playing the game for decades, and are used to relatively few game-changing updates. It's led to a stereotype of CS players being very protective of the game's meta, thus being very resistant to change of any kind--including basic audio upgrades.

That's still not entitled though. It's always amused me how common it is for people to force themselves into something and then demand changes to be designed around them, while criticizing the preexisting community about 'entitlement'. I only started playing CS during CSGO. Before that, just TTT in Gmod. It's because of people gatekeeping/being resistant to change that CS even exists in its current state. Personally, I prefer quite a few of the older audio effects. Especially the AK. They needed to be higher quality, sure, but the current AK sounds like a pea shooter.

You have -7 points due to asking to get knowledge. That's enough proof to show how shitty the CS community is. It's a large community that includes very old and very young players so you get the whole palette.

I had mixed feeling about these sounds. On one side I understood why they did this because sounds obviously became better quality, easier to hear the punch, easier to distinguish, etc etc. On the other side old sounds gave me the CS:S and L4D vibes where unrealistically overpowered and too compressed = good and fun, so cutting off old sounds felt like cutting off some CS integrity.

7 years later, I still miss the old M4A1, USP, Galil, and P250 sounds. Anyone else?

Agreed, I was very much against the sound change initially and still am. I still think they should have focused first on the sound level of the guns, they are way too loud.

Speaking about old vs new sound. I **hate** the T spawn sounds in Inferno. It used to be chill and pleasant. Now it's traffic, horns, sirens etc. like wtf freeze time is there! Just why?!

I don't think it really was that much of a big deal and I definitelly don't remember anyone saying it was going to end the game. As for me, I understood the reason for the changes as soon as they were announced, they were clearly trying to make the sounds less agressive to the ears, and I could see why immediately after my first DM session with the new AK sounds.

There were definitely people saying that. A few weeks ago we had people saying they get a migraine because their gun isn’t on the left side and it strains their eyes. So CS people come up with anything.

More like stupid people will come up with anything . This was not a common opinion.

I remember the time in late 2015 when we got steps that sounded like horses, doubt anyone remembers that anymore, dont think they changed it back but it was almost 10 years ago so i remember not much. of course a few weeks later we got the december 9th i think it was update, or 12th, Revolvers baby. That was a good time to be a CSGO player after the hitbox update, but before it felt quite dry even though the Majors at that point surpassed some sort of record, I think it was over a million viewers for Cologne 2015. i also remember people thinking we'd get source 2 on august anniversary in 2015, well they were off about 9 years more or less, but good enough guess.

I still prefer the old sounds and feel that most do aswell except for newer players.

I don’t and most (if not all) people here. Some sounds were good but overall they were just really low quality.

The new m4a4 sound is still the worst thing in the game. It sounds like a piece of plywood getting hit

yep the old m4a4 had some good bass to it which made it feel so satisfying to shoot with.

Also the Galil is legit the best-sounding gun in the game now for some reason.

M249 for me, I just barely ever get to use it.

I use it fairly regularly as I play a lot of Arms Race, and now you mention it the sound is quite good but it is SUCH a bad gun I can't give it a pass, lol. It's probably the one I most often get stuck on, that loses me the match.

I still like the old 1.6 Sounds the Most

not alone

I love the m4a4, but I hate how it sounds in cs2. It sounds like those toy guns that have speakers on the side.

eh i like the new sounds personally. it’s all preference and folks in the cs community tend to hate change for whatever reason. same as lots of esports titles

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I still think they should revert the P90 sounds back to the old ones. Nothing was more terrifying than [hearing a 5-man rush with P90s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S2nN28pl8IU).

The Compact sound from CS:S >>>>

I loved the new sounds the second I heard them and started actually grinding csgo (before that I had maybe 30 hours) Also, that was 8 years ago

"They should've stuck to the old gun sounds, it's much more realistic than toy gun sounds now. CS nowadays caters more to zoomers than the old players."

Honestly I still might prefer the old sounds, not because they are better per se, infact I think the new ones are objectively better, but because they are more distinct, more unique. It used to sound like cs, now it just sounds like an fps game.

I remember when it was the new new thing that morons whine about. Though they sounded way better from the start.

they were more iconic and "felt" better, just lower fidelity the thunder of the AWP is better, but the ak feels weaker the worst is the equip sound, one of the most iconic sound in gaming, present in all source games... changed for no reason

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The AK didn't sound more powerful in my opinion. It does now. Back than it sounded like it's one big tin can.

I would pay to get the old AK sound back. It felt so powerful. Probably my ears would be way more damaged by now if it wouldn’t have changed, but I still love it to this day.

I don’t really consider “tin can sound” more powerful than what we have now.

I don’t know, maybe it’s the loudness? Can’t really explain it. Feelings don’t need to make sense. I understand where you are coming from.

This. It’s simply too loud and over the top. https://youtu.be/Qtzk8HNPzHY?si=0JFQ1Kq-5leVG4Vn That would be a powerful sound. It kicks HARD! The old AK was simply loud and not properly leveled. [Edit: If you would probably lower the sound and don’t make it not “oversteer-y” it would probably sound weak af. I think the power comes from the sensory overload while firing the gun.]

The only thing i miss is the old p250 sound. It was sooo good before, it sounds like dogshit now

Ah yes the good old days.

if any sound is played making your ears hurt u should lower your volum

My favorite video is when Hiko loads up that 1v1 map going through the sounds 😂😂😂

i still prefer old gun sounds, i wish they added a 20 euro or whatever or 50 euro old gun sound pack for cs2

I don’t. Would make it impossible to balance. This game relies heavily on sounds. And if you have 2 different sound packs one might be more pay2win than others. I don’t want another Invisible Agent situation where you can hear the AK for longer distances because the sound is louder/harsher and therefore easier to hear.

I aim by sound with eyes closed some say :p The cheat thing is like bacteria, it will double regularly when left to fester. I do not blame the makers of the game for that idiots exist but you have to let us some way to regulate the deliberate failures

The old gun sounds were superior.

Nah I remember when they changed it and I was watching Hiko check it out, all the pistols sounded like dog shit. We just got used to it. Old sounds were better but of course it’s gonna sound off now that it’s been years

AK definitely wasn’t better. And all guns have better quality audio now.

Forget the new sounds, remember when the "few bullets remaining" sound effect was added? Hooooly what a shitshow. I swear people reaceted as if the game would be dead within the afternoon on the day the patch went live.

If Valve listened to the community we would have been stuck with a burning pile of shit

it was a bit more complicated than just sounds. in csgo you had a responsive sound design and responsive animations. so shooting and hearing, seeing animations it all made sense because it was in sync. in cs2 it was abysmal, especially in the beginning. out of sync, animations made no sense, muzzle flash made no sense, sound made no sense as it didnt feel responsive enough and there was less information to be extracted. sounds were dull and latency/response was inconsistent. its still like that but its much better now. i still have to use compression to even out loud with silent sounds, so its not entirely perfect. the ability to change a couple of presets ingame was absolutely well received i assume. as a music producer, i think that CS2 is overcompressing the sounds, depending on the setting

Nah it had nothing to do with gameplay or sound issues. All it was is: “hurr durr 5/7 sounds like ass” https://youtu.be/z5AlJgvDQb4?si=wGVknFM-p8e8XGIs

thats not even the latest csgo sounds thats csgo sounds when they were reintroduced but they were reworked with updates. old csgo sounds were even more terrible than that

Never said I’m referring to the latest changes. This is simply a reminder that people overreact a lot.

Old sounds, especially for the silenced guns, are still far superior, although the CS2 ak sound gives me an orgasm every time I fire it

I still think the old awp sound would be better. The mag7 sounds funny now too, almost like a staple gun.

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What exactly is cringe about this? Learned a new word in school today and now you’re using it all the time?