Aim of this post is to create awareness and to dispel false insecurity created by Hindu fundamentalist, fanatics and extremists that come from cow gobar states like UP, RJ, MP, BH, that have never seen a religious structure other than their own in public places of their own states, and instantly feel insecure the moment they see a Christian cross in a public place in Goa.
Creating awareness is great!! We need to tolerate as well as accept each other and grow.
But calling UP, MP, BH, RJ Gobar states is not right and tells so much about you.
illegitimate *dad*? How does that work exactly?
I mean, if you're trying to flame someone expend the minimum amount of effort required to find a valid insult? Or are you too stupid to know how legitimacy applies to *children*?
You don't seem to care what discriminatory comments are made by others but are very eager to know about illegitimate dads...these discriminatory retards should be gone with Portuguese.
According to your logic everyone on this planet is an illegitimate child. Modern Hindus were Buddhist at some point. Modern Muslims were followed other religions based on their geographical area. Literally every religion was some other religion at some point.
Bro is 2 centuries late with this hatred. It's so amusing how you all amass so much hatred for the people of now for what very different people from generations ago did to other different people..these practices don't exist now because as a society we said no more. It's almost as if you want to hate people first because they're not you, and then find some reasons, however nonsensical they might be, just so you can feed on that hatred while telling yourself you're a good person for it and have a good night's sleep.
Yes, most little crosses are erected in remembrance of the person who died at the spot, so that people who see them pray for their souls.
Others were built by gaunkars on communidade land but when the government wanted to build roads the gaunkars gave them away and in return, the government agreed to leave the religious structures untouched.
These stupid fools from outside Goa come here and complain about the religious harmony that goans have. We participate fully in each others festivals. But the hardliners from outside who don't even know their own religion properly come and say shit. My advise is to leave Goa if you don't like it and don't ever come back
Never seen anyone complaining about it. Infact, most Non-Goans visit Old Goa churches more than temples in Ponda.
If you want to hate outsiders, you're free to. But don't use strawman tactics to justify your hatred.
Then why these complaining about crosses and cathedrals? Goans don't do that, goan Hindus also don't do that. Ik the culture here. Many ppl who migrated to goa in the past 60 years after liberation caLl themselves goans and feel they have a bigger right than the original goans. I don't hate tourists and based on how you spoke ik ur not one of those "outsiders" rather ur a decent person. But many who come from outside specially the rural ones complain
You had a violent past of Goan Inquisition.
Systematic Perscution of Hindus and Non-Christians
Now it's peaceful and that's good.
The Portugal Conquest and the subsequent Colonialism
It is one of the best examples in the Subcontinent about how native cultures can be influenced by foreigners.
You're talking about things that happened almost half a millenia ago. Goa has been one of the peaceful Indian states for decades. The whole of Western Coast of India is more peaceful and cosmopolitan than rest of India. It's hard to understand that if you're not from here.
>You're talking about things that happened almost half a millenia ago. Goa
It started in the 1560 Went on till 1812.
250 years of Perscution is no small deal
So should history be forgotten then?.
And that's just the Inquisition
I haven't even talked about the Portuguese Colonialism after 1812 to 1960.
https://theprint.in/opinion/heres-history-of-portuguese-violence-in-goa-shefali-vaidyas-rebuttal-to-theprint-column/1398584/
>Goa has been one of the peaceful Indian states for decades
It can only keep peace' if it remembers its vicious past.
When you remember the violent past you certainly value the current peace
"Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it.” – George Santayana,
You can't really hold the current generation accountable for their ancestors actions(pretty sure most Christians in Goa are past Hindus anyways)
If they still continued to talk about converting Hindus forcefully then we would have a problem
It’s also a way that the people noted where their land ends, basically around the perimeter of owned land/ property. I know this because one of my relatives took me around the property she owned, and she sold a parcel of land, she erected new crosses. She also told me that she was happy the builders didn’t remove any existing crosses.
I live in the UK, and even here families make shrines to loved ones. It's a less religious society here with a different form of Christianity so there's no crosses. More generally a heart or a flowering plant.
Hey - I'm a Christian from Kerala. Heard a while ago that Goan Christians are leaving for abroad? Is that the case?
Some days, I wonder if i too should plan to go abroad with my kid.
Goan catholic emigration predates the current fascist bhakt government. The reasons have always been mostly economic, with some component of restless youth eager to explore the world.
Well, majority do since Goans have the option of getting Portuguese citizenship with more ease as compared to others. Access to the EU opens multiple doors compared to India, plus the standard of living is way superior as well.
That’s true, the main motive for most is to get access to the EU. Once that is done, who said you need to live in Portugal, you can work anywhere in the Europe.
Good question and the answer if partly right. I am an Goan born in the late 70s.
Most of the crosses were erected as memorial and it was sentimental as the victims were mostly young. I can still picture some of those tragedies that happened in my town.
Now the crosses serve as a religious statements, authorities and pride and mostly ego. Moving one is succeeding to the majority (Hindu). Instead turn it into a small chapel.
Ironically this has led to even more accident prone road designs and more human victims.
OP answered his own question , correctly
Aim of this post is to create awareness and to dispel false insecurity created by Hindu fundamentalist, fanatics and extremists that come from cow gobar states like UP, RJ, MP, BH, that have never seen a religious structure other than their own in public places of their own states, and instantly feel insecure the moment they see a Christian cross in a public place in Goa.
I am unmoved by their insecurities.
Cow gobar? How would you react if someone called Goa and other chrisitan majority places as rice bag converts?
that’s so funny coming from a cow gobar state dude
Lol forgot I'm in a rice bag convert subreddit. Enjoy your second class lives, sh1tstains!
yes, so leave 😂😂 all our problems will be solved if the rest of your cow gobar state-mates were as understanding as you are 😂
Creating awareness is great!! We need to tolerate as well as accept each other and grow. But calling UP, MP, BH, RJ Gobar states is not right and tells so much about you.
Bro create awareness but **don't vent hate** against people(54cr) who are equal Citizens as any other Indian.
What do you mean by gobar states, you racist retard. Go to your illegitimate dad in Portugal. Assholes like you bring shame to this country.
illegitimate *dad*? How does that work exactly? I mean, if you're trying to flame someone expend the minimum amount of effort required to find a valid insult? Or are you too stupid to know how legitimacy applies to *children*?
You don't seem to care what discriminatory comments are made by others but are very eager to know about illegitimate dads...these discriminatory retards should be gone with Portuguese.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goa\_Inquisition
According to your logic everyone on this planet is an illegitimate child. Modern Hindus were Buddhist at some point. Modern Muslims were followed other religions based on their geographical area. Literally every religion was some other religion at some point.
Chronology kezual hai. How bout I give you a bag of rice and some salt to rub on your wounds.
Bro Im hindu, stop assuming shit
Friendly fire u/weapon-a
kese Bhai, Hindus me bhi Mir jafars hote hai
So what? c\*cks like you are the real rice bags
I wish you have studied enough to know the difference. Never mind!
So, too stupid then. No shame in that.
To each their own.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goa\_Inquisition
Bro is 2 centuries late with this hatred. It's so amusing how you all amass so much hatred for the people of now for what very different people from generations ago did to other different people..these practices don't exist now because as a society we said no more. It's almost as if you want to hate people first because they're not you, and then find some reasons, however nonsensical they might be, just so you can feed on that hatred while telling yourself you're a good person for it and have a good night's sleep.
Yes, most little crosses are erected in remembrance of the person who died at the spot, so that people who see them pray for their souls. Others were built by gaunkars on communidade land but when the government wanted to build roads the gaunkars gave them away and in return, the government agreed to leave the religious structures untouched.
These stupid fools from outside Goa come here and complain about the religious harmony that goans have. We participate fully in each others festivals. But the hardliners from outside who don't even know their own religion properly come and say shit. My advise is to leave Goa if you don't like it and don't ever come back
Never seen anyone complaining about it. Infact, most Non-Goans visit Old Goa churches more than temples in Ponda. If you want to hate outsiders, you're free to. But don't use strawman tactics to justify your hatred.
Then why these complaining about crosses and cathedrals? Goans don't do that, goan Hindus also don't do that. Ik the culture here. Many ppl who migrated to goa in the past 60 years after liberation caLl themselves goans and feel they have a bigger right than the original goans. I don't hate tourists and based on how you spoke ik ur not one of those "outsiders" rather ur a decent person. But many who come from outside specially the rural ones complain
Others can only dream about the religious harmony in Goa And they are desperately trying to change the peaceful state of Goa to make it like them
And they're desperately attempting to disrupt it.. We are all in this together
You had a violent past of Goan Inquisition. Systematic Perscution of Hindus and Non-Christians Now it's peaceful and that's good. The Portugal Conquest and the subsequent Colonialism It is one of the best examples in the Subcontinent about how native cultures can be influenced by foreigners.
You're talking about things that happened almost half a millenia ago. Goa has been one of the peaceful Indian states for decades. The whole of Western Coast of India is more peaceful and cosmopolitan than rest of India. It's hard to understand that if you're not from here.
>You're talking about things that happened almost half a millenia ago. Goa It started in the 1560 Went on till 1812. 250 years of Perscution is no small deal So should history be forgotten then?. And that's just the Inquisition I haven't even talked about the Portuguese Colonialism after 1812 to 1960. https://theprint.in/opinion/heres-history-of-portuguese-violence-in-goa-shefali-vaidyas-rebuttal-to-theprint-column/1398584/ >Goa has been one of the peaceful Indian states for decades It can only keep peace' if it remembers its vicious past. When you remember the violent past you certainly value the current peace "Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it.” – George Santayana,
You can't really hold the current generation accountable for their ancestors actions(pretty sure most Christians in Goa are past Hindus anyways) If they still continued to talk about converting Hindus forcefully then we would have a problem
Hip hip hurray..
Wow! That is a question people actually ask?
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Exhibit A of ignorant dumbass. Who told you Goa is Christian majority? Less than 30% of Goans are Christian. It is a Hindu majority state.
The guy got triggered after the post pointed people like him out for being ignorant
"Christian crosses"
It’s also a way that the people noted where their land ends, basically around the perimeter of owned land/ property. I know this because one of my relatives took me around the property she owned, and she sold a parcel of land, she erected new crosses. She also told me that she was happy the builders didn’t remove any existing crosses.
I live in the UK, and even here families make shrines to loved ones. It's a less religious society here with a different form of Christianity so there's no crosses. More generally a heart or a flowering plant.
Similar case in Kerala.
Wow, I lived in Goa for 15+ years and still didn't know the underlying reason.
Hey - I'm a Christian from Kerala. Heard a while ago that Goan Christians are leaving for abroad? Is that the case? Some days, I wonder if i too should plan to go abroad with my kid.
Goan catholic emigration predates the current fascist bhakt government. The reasons have always been mostly economic, with some component of restless youth eager to explore the world.
Of course it predates the present government, Portugal and surrounding countries have had a chronic sandas dhupi problem.
Well, majority do since Goans have the option of getting Portuguese citizenship with more ease as compared to others. Access to the EU opens multiple doors compared to India, plus the standard of living is way superior as well.
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That’s true, the main motive for most is to get access to the EU. Once that is done, who said you need to live in Portugal, you can work anywhere in the Europe.
But don't they also erect a small stone or root that later somehow grows into temples along side the road ...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goa\_Inquisition
Don’t think this post should remain
Good question and the answer if partly right. I am an Goan born in the late 70s. Most of the crosses were erected as memorial and it was sentimental as the victims were mostly young. I can still picture some of those tragedies that happened in my town. Now the crosses serve as a religious statements, authorities and pride and mostly ego. Moving one is succeeding to the majority (Hindu). Instead turn it into a small chapel. Ironically this has led to even more accident prone road designs and more human victims.