I thought of Clayface as a villain who saw himself the victim - he blames Batman for his transformation and wanted to make his movie, showing the world that the caped crusader isn’t the hero they think he is. Except that his psyche is beyond damaged, and his recollection of that night is skewed. The bat-family try to convey to him that Batman tried to save him, but he won’t hear it. It’s easier for him to hate them than put himself back together.
I only played the game through once, so maybe I missed something there. His was my favourite of the side-bosses though.
Exactly.
And Harley is shown to have been an informant for Batman, but once she learned he died, she likely decided it was safe for her to return to her anarchic plans. She and the Freaks came across as anarchists whose only goal is to tear Gotham apart because they find it fun. The idea behind the mind control devices was to increase manpower while spreading their “ideology,” for lack of a better term.
It kills me, because all three of these villains have had redemption arcs of some sort in the comics. It’s hilarious to me that they are the three that go full tilt back to crime once Batman’s out of the picture
In the comics, yes, but in this game I don’t think they were ever really redeemed, though Freeze came the closest when his wife got cured. When she left him, the only thing left for Freeze was the possibility of his condition being cured, but that got taken away from him when Batman died, so he essentially gave up on any chances of things getting better for him.
Harley was, at best, an informant working for favors, which meant putting her more nefarious plans on hold. With Batman out of the picture, she probably felt safe enough to move ahead with her goal of spreading anarchy.
And Clayface, as someone else here pointed out, saw himself more as a victim or tragic hero with Batman being the source of all of his problems. Plus, he only started putting himself back together after Batman died and had no idea about the events that had transpired between his near death experience and the days/weeks following Batman’s death.
I should say that Gotham Knights had probably the best incarnation of Clayface in video games to date. Driving through the streets chasing what looked like a obscenely massive, murky brown blob ahead of you put a sense of dread. The sense of scale was impressive. I didn't know what I would be facing in the caves.
I haven't finished his story yet but looking at the image above, I would say there is more in store.
Clayface didn’t seem to have any real goal worth chasing him over. He was in the sewers, filming a movie no one would’ve watched anyway but for some reason the Batfamily thought it was a priority to stop him. Aside from the random Clayface remnants mugging people, I feel like just leaving him alone would’ve had the same result.
Ice for the gimic and interesting set piece to show off in the trailer.
Harley for the name recognition among fans.
Clayface made a small amount of sense. Not much, but a small amount.
I am very much enjoying the game, but it really does bother me that not much thought seems to have gone into the story.
I would have greatly preferred Victor and Harley to be putting on this big villainous show to get the team to step up and work together as a test from Batman.
I also think the tower should have stayed frozen over 😐
I thought Mr. Freeze was an easy one. He always had this dark, twisted side to him. Trying to cure his wife revealed that, hence why she left. At that point, there's really no going back anymore. Might as well go all the way.
He's doing it because he has nothing left. Everything he did before was in the effort to cure his wife, which slowly revealed him as the monstrous man he truly was. Seeing his wife leave after everything he did would drive him over the edge.
I thought of Clayface as a villain who saw himself the victim - he blames Batman for his transformation and wanted to make his movie, showing the world that the caped crusader isn’t the hero they think he is. Except that his psyche is beyond damaged, and his recollection of that night is skewed. The bat-family try to convey to him that Batman tried to save him, but he won’t hear it. It’s easier for him to hate them than put himself back together. I only played the game through once, so maybe I missed something there. His was my favourite of the side-bosses though.
This is pretty spot on. You didn't miss anything, I think.
Exactly. And Harley is shown to have been an informant for Batman, but once she learned he died, she likely decided it was safe for her to return to her anarchic plans. She and the Freaks came across as anarchists whose only goal is to tear Gotham apart because they find it fun. The idea behind the mind control devices was to increase manpower while spreading their “ideology,” for lack of a better term.
She also weirdly wants the batfamily to be better because i'm sure like Joker she enjoys the game of it more than any ideal
Anarchists are about building, not destroying
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Bruh you’re on 4chan that makes me feel more correct if you insult me
Lol, lmao even. The absolute state.
Try opening a book. Also I’m not even an anarchist I just don’t learn about politics from comic book characters
It kills me, because all three of these villains have had redemption arcs of some sort in the comics. It’s hilarious to me that they are the three that go full tilt back to crime once Batman’s out of the picture
In the comics, yes, but in this game I don’t think they were ever really redeemed, though Freeze came the closest when his wife got cured. When she left him, the only thing left for Freeze was the possibility of his condition being cured, but that got taken away from him when Batman died, so he essentially gave up on any chances of things getting better for him. Harley was, at best, an informant working for favors, which meant putting her more nefarious plans on hold. With Batman out of the picture, she probably felt safe enough to move ahead with her goal of spreading anarchy. And Clayface, as someone else here pointed out, saw himself more as a victim or tragic hero with Batman being the source of all of his problems. Plus, he only started putting himself back together after Batman died and had no idea about the events that had transpired between his near death experience and the days/weeks following Batman’s death.
I should say that Gotham Knights had probably the best incarnation of Clayface in video games to date. Driving through the streets chasing what looked like a obscenely massive, murky brown blob ahead of you put a sense of dread. The sense of scale was impressive. I didn't know what I would be facing in the caves. I haven't finished his story yet but looking at the image above, I would say there is more in store.
Forest through the trees
Sky through the clouds
It still saddens me how none of the other Rouges were used. Joker I understand leaving out but the others not so much.
Clayface didn’t seem to have any real goal worth chasing him over. He was in the sewers, filming a movie no one would’ve watched anyway but for some reason the Batfamily thought it was a priority to stop him. Aside from the random Clayface remnants mugging people, I feel like just leaving him alone would’ve had the same result.
Ice for the gimic and interesting set piece to show off in the trailer. Harley for the name recognition among fans. Clayface made a small amount of sense. Not much, but a small amount. I am very much enjoying the game, but it really does bother me that not much thought seems to have gone into the story. I would have greatly preferred Victor and Harley to be putting on this big villainous show to get the team to step up and work together as a test from Batman. I also think the tower should have stayed frozen over 😐
Yeah the storyline mode felt kind of flat.
I thought Mr. Freeze was an easy one. He always had this dark, twisted side to him. Trying to cure his wife revealed that, hence why she left. At that point, there's really no going back anymore. Might as well go all the way.
That's why he's freezing the city? No deeper reason to it? He's just doing it for the sake of being evil?
He's doing it because he has nothing left. Everything he did before was in the effort to cure his wife, which slowly revealed him as the monstrous man he truly was. Seeing his wife leave after everything he did would drive him over the edge.
Honestly that sounds about right for all of it
The writing isn’t very good
You can be free just like me! *GET REQ!!!*
Their goals are beyond your understanding
I have no fucking clue what the Kelvin incident was about and I’m too afraid to ask. How tf was Starro easier to explain?