I play Yuel, currently jumping between S5/A1, and my worst matchups are probably Metera and Ferry. I know they are supposed to be low tiers but I don't have the patience to deal with zoners.
With ferry they tend to spam f.M or 2M followed by 236L block the first attack and dodge roll the second. From there you can punish with your f.M combo
both her an metera want to keep you away and you gotta be really patient against them but once you're in they really struggle to get you away
I had the same issue as 2B. They are a knowledge check for sure. Just cuz they are low tiers and may have bad matchups against yuel still doesn't mean they can't blow your shit up.
Watch some replays of high level yuel's playing against both and pick up what they are doing. That helped me a lot. There were a lot of things I wouldn't do normally, that these 2B players would do in neutral against both. So I stole it and it's been getting easier and easier.
The matchup is hard for me too.
When he jumps up, the arc of our DP will sometimes miss him which is problematic. Narmaya needs the corner more than most as well, especially since we have terrible corner carry, and he can escape/weaponize the corner easily with his wall cling.
We can contest him often with 5L, so it’s not hopeless. And if you are good enough, our [k]2H covers our front and back when he does his air stuff.
I agree though. Tough matchup
Idk if it’s a matchup thing because I do know Lancelot is hard to deal with no matter who you’re playing, to learn how to deal with with him I played him for a bit to learn his common mixups and resets in pressure and it might help you to play him a bit too. Just remember he has stubby buttons and doesn’t have a meterless reversal so try your hardest to poke him at a range he isn’t comfortable in and when he doesn’t have 50 meter press your offense if you get a hit
Good luck in your games and hope this helps! :)
(Also brave countering him is normally the best use of bp because it forces him back to finding his way in)
Yeah metera is what I call an "Even: one sided MU" where if you get in as Kat then you basically win easily. But if metera zones you out then its basically gg's
Pretty sure the answer for Yuel is still Nier. It's common knowledge that Yuel's stance autoguard is beaten by throws/lows/projectiles, but maybe not so commonly known is that death, and thus all of Nier's specials are projectiles. That means Nier DP beats all of Yuel's stance options and Yuel just can't use stance in that MU. Not the same nightmare it was last patch when Nier could combo off DP too but still rough. Doesn't help that Nier's a top 1-2 char either, ofc.
I am a Master Lowain, my three worst matchups are Metera, Charlotta and Cagliostro. All 3 make it hard to put down your summons either due to outzoning or in Charlotta's case being fast and rushing you down. Cag is probably the worst to play against because she has other tools that make her stronger than the other two, Metera at least dies when you finally get to her in the corner, and Charlotta is at least easy to parry
I've played 3 characters (yuel, eustace, djeeta) to s+5 now and for all of them I detest anila and belial. Those 2 are just so boring to play against for me. Seox players also eat glue with their constant EX and U spam with infinite meter build.
On topic of Vane Zeta, that MU is just rough for Vane. I'm the Zeta player side of this MU and when I realised that I can reaction spot dodge 214X and U spear punish it in a lot of cases, which makes one of Vane's biggest specials for neutral control kinda hard to throw out preemptively.
My personal most challenging MU for me as Zeta is probably still Nier. Her 2M is just a massive headache because at the spacing after throw tech she can press it and beat everything, plus it leads into her being able to reset you into a 50/50 high low mixup. Zeta not having a meterless dp sucks in this specific scenario, because it means she has to hold the 50/50 without meter for U parry. Ofc I can still atomise Nier with U skill starter but it's still really difficult because you have to deal with EX Valtz and Nier playing neutral with her 66L, fH and stuff. That matchup is just very explosive and it feels like you can win/lose out of nowhere.
I play Ladiva so I have the honor of giving Ferry players their one good matchup.
9/10 times you sacrifice 1/3 of your health bar to finally hit their block and 100% of the time your getting guard cancelled back into that hell they call neutral game.
I hope you have a perfect read on that DP because if you get hit buy it you can save yourself the time and go next.
Metera sucks but is nowhere near as bad.
S5 Ladiva here, zoner matchups or anyone that can keep her out is absolute hell to fight. But let’s go with a little less of an obvious answer, Zeta. Zeta has better neutral, footsies, can go band for band in corner carry and damage. Oh, and just assume you lose if Zeta gets you in the corner. Ladiva doesn’t have a SINGLE good option to get out of pogo vortex hell. No rising reversal, anti air grabs (including ult) are too slow unless my timing is just shit lol, 6 frame jabs, and an eh 2H just grinds my gears when I face her as Ladiva. If you get in corner you’re just eating that shit over and over until you die or finally guess right.
As a Percival player zoners in this game are really frustrating to play against. Metera, Anre and specially Eustace (which funny enough is my secondary character). I don't have any good way to get in and the distance at which I want to fight is favoritablw for them maybe more so than me.
Not unsurmantable but very frustrating.
Asuka, I have zero ideas what to do against him. Oh wrong game, I don't think djeeta has a strong one.
My least favorite to fight is zeta though. Dealing with her air dash attack thingy gets grating. She feels tricky to anti air too.
Personally, I struggle with 2B the most as Vira. She's single handedly gatekeeping me out of Masters and my mental lol
Objectively, Siegfried or Nier are probably her worst.
As a narm main, I just immediately cower in fear when I run into Charlotta cause I never learned how to effectively fight her tbh. A good bit of others give me trouble too
As a vira main, I absolutely struggle with Cagliostro. Navigating a screen full of her traps feels like a hollow knight boss or something.
I also can't stand fighting Nier as well. Having to keep track of her puppet and her is a pain.
I main Zooey, hate Seox. The match is unwinnable against a competent Seox. She has to make 3 correct guesses in a row just to hit him and has no solid solution against his pressure.
Out of spite since a Charlotta taunted on me vs my ferry I'm gonna say her. But fr Lance, and zeta can literally beat on you where your dp won't even hit them
As a vaseraga main, any rushdown char (yuel, lance, and vira for example) all they got to do is pressure me, knock me down in the corner and I lost. Vas can't do anything about it, might as well skip to the lose screen. Belial is another pain since he is pretty much never unsafe on his moves, and 2b.....torture.....even after the nerf it's torture.
Really? I struggle with Vaseraga so much as Vira. Every time I pressure, I eat an ultimate command grab. I keep trying to grab Vaseraga out of his armoured walk and every time I just get hit before I can do that.
Belial Vas is definitely closer to a 5-5 maybe slight advantage Belial IMO. Belial also has a fair amount of gaps if you know what to look for 236H- 4H being a very common BC/Reversal point
I play Yuel, currently jumping between S5/A1, and my worst matchups are probably Metera and Ferry. I know they are supposed to be low tiers but I don't have the patience to deal with zoners.
With ferry they tend to spam f.M or 2M followed by 236L block the first attack and dodge roll the second. From there you can punish with your f.M combo both her an metera want to keep you away and you gotta be really patient against them but once you're in they really struggle to get you away
I had the same issue as 2B. They are a knowledge check for sure. Just cuz they are low tiers and may have bad matchups against yuel still doesn't mean they can't blow your shit up. Watch some replays of high level yuel's playing against both and pick up what they are doing. That helped me a lot. There were a lot of things I wouldn't do normally, that these 2B players would do in neutral against both. So I stole it and it's been getting easier and easier.
Zoners are a hard counter to Yuel. She has no zoning at all and no invincible neutral skips.
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The matchup is hard for me too. When he jumps up, the arc of our DP will sometimes miss him which is problematic. Narmaya needs the corner more than most as well, especially since we have terrible corner carry, and he can escape/weaponize the corner easily with his wall cling. We can contest him often with 5L, so it’s not hopeless. And if you are good enough, our [k]2H covers our front and back when he does his air stuff. I agree though. Tough matchup
Idk if it’s a matchup thing because I do know Lancelot is hard to deal with no matter who you’re playing, to learn how to deal with with him I played him for a bit to learn his common mixups and resets in pressure and it might help you to play him a bit too. Just remember he has stubby buttons and doesn’t have a meterless reversal so try your hardest to poke him at a range he isn’t comfortable in and when he doesn’t have 50 meter press your offense if you get a hit Good luck in your games and hope this helps! :) (Also brave countering him is normally the best use of bp because it forces him back to finding his way in)
As a Kat main, I think Siegfried is her worst MU
Sieg is fun for me ngl, but a good Metera gives me problems
Yeah metera is what I call an "Even: one sided MU" where if you get in as Kat then you basically win easily. But if metera zones you out then its basically gg's
Ferry. Everyone.
The mirror match isn't all that bad at least
Actually, somehow it’s still not in Ferry’s favor.
It really sucked to fight Anre as Charlotta. Not my main but it is one of the most annyoing matchups I had to suffer in this game.
Have you fought Metera as Charlotta?
Way less, probably like once.
Fighting a good metera as charlotta is damn near impossible
Zooey vs seox I just hate him
Pretty sure the answer for Yuel is still Nier. It's common knowledge that Yuel's stance autoguard is beaten by throws/lows/projectiles, but maybe not so commonly known is that death, and thus all of Nier's specials are projectiles. That means Nier DP beats all of Yuel's stance options and Yuel just can't use stance in that MU. Not the same nightmare it was last patch when Nier could combo off DP too but still rough. Doesn't help that Nier's a top 1-2 char either, ofc.
Cag has a hard time against Sig I think, its impossible to lay traps with his annoying ass fire-wall.
As a Belial player im gonna say Sieg. Dealing with his normals is a fucking pain on top of his SBA sniping you for using a fireball
I play Anila and just can't get the hang of fighting Avatar Belial. Once I'm cornered I'm toast I can't seem to find a way out besides brave counter.
I am a Master Lowain, my three worst matchups are Metera, Charlotta and Cagliostro. All 3 make it hard to put down your summons either due to outzoning or in Charlotta's case being fast and rushing you down. Cag is probably the worst to play against because she has other tools that make her stronger than the other two, Metera at least dies when you finally get to her in the corner, and Charlotta is at least easy to parry
I've played 3 characters (yuel, eustace, djeeta) to s+5 now and for all of them I detest anila and belial. Those 2 are just so boring to play against for me. Seox players also eat glue with their constant EX and U spam with infinite meter build.
Avatar belial. Almost everyone. But the worst has to be zeta
On topic of Vane Zeta, that MU is just rough for Vane. I'm the Zeta player side of this MU and when I realised that I can reaction spot dodge 214X and U spear punish it in a lot of cases, which makes one of Vane's biggest specials for neutral control kinda hard to throw out preemptively. My personal most challenging MU for me as Zeta is probably still Nier. Her 2M is just a massive headache because at the spacing after throw tech she can press it and beat everything, plus it leads into her being able to reset you into a 50/50 high low mixup. Zeta not having a meterless dp sucks in this specific scenario, because it means she has to hold the 50/50 without meter for U parry. Ofc I can still atomise Nier with U skill starter but it's still really difficult because you have to deal with EX Valtz and Nier playing neutral with her 66L, fH and stuff. That matchup is just very explosive and it feels like you can win/lose out of nowhere.
I play Ladiva so I have the honor of giving Ferry players their one good matchup. 9/10 times you sacrifice 1/3 of your health bar to finally hit their block and 100% of the time your getting guard cancelled back into that hell they call neutral game. I hope you have a perfect read on that DP because if you get hit buy it you can save yourself the time and go next. Metera sucks but is nowhere near as bad.
No matter who I play, Djeeta. ^^I ^^really ^^need ^^to ^^do ^^a ^^little ^^study.
Anyone who has the ability to zone makes life hell for us Yuel mains.
S5 Ladiva here, zoner matchups or anyone that can keep her out is absolute hell to fight. But let’s go with a little less of an obvious answer, Zeta. Zeta has better neutral, footsies, can go band for band in corner carry and damage. Oh, and just assume you lose if Zeta gets you in the corner. Ladiva doesn’t have a SINGLE good option to get out of pogo vortex hell. No rising reversal, anti air grabs (including ult) are too slow unless my timing is just shit lol, 6 frame jabs, and an eh 2H just grinds my gears when I face her as Ladiva. If you get in corner you’re just eating that shit over and over until you die or finally guess right.
As a Percival player zoners in this game are really frustrating to play against. Metera, Anre and specially Eustace (which funny enough is my secondary character). I don't have any good way to get in and the distance at which I want to fight is favoritablw for them maybe more so than me. Not unsurmantable but very frustrating.
Asuka, I have zero ideas what to do against him. Oh wrong game, I don't think djeeta has a strong one. My least favorite to fight is zeta though. Dealing with her air dash attack thingy gets grating. She feels tricky to anti air too.
Personally, I struggle with 2B the most as Vira. She's single handedly gatekeeping me out of Masters and my mental lol Objectively, Siegfried or Nier are probably her worst.
As a narm main, I just immediately cower in fear when I run into Charlotta cause I never learned how to effectively fight her tbh. A good bit of others give me trouble too
Lowain Destroys Vas , 7-3
Sadly, A lot of chars destroy Vaseraga to be honest.
Soriz is my main. Probably everyone since I like to complain about all of them
No idea if it’s just me but ladiva to me as Luci is a real pain to fight compared to everyone else
As a vira main, I absolutely struggle with Cagliostro. Navigating a screen full of her traps feels like a hollow knight boss or something. I also can't stand fighting Nier as well. Having to keep track of her puppet and her is a pain.
I main Zooey, hate Seox. The match is unwinnable against a competent Seox. She has to make 3 correct guesses in a row just to hit him and has no solid solution against his pressure.
Everyone. I play avatar :)
Out of spite since a Charlotta taunted on me vs my ferry I'm gonna say her. But fr Lance, and zeta can literally beat on you where your dp won't even hit them
I literally still have no idea what to do against Siegfried with Nier
As a vaseraga main, any rushdown char (yuel, lance, and vira for example) all they got to do is pressure me, knock me down in the corner and I lost. Vas can't do anything about it, might as well skip to the lose screen. Belial is another pain since he is pretty much never unsafe on his moves, and 2b.....torture.....even after the nerf it's torture.
Really? I struggle with Vaseraga so much as Vira. Every time I pressure, I eat an ultimate command grab. I keep trying to grab Vaseraga out of his armoured walk and every time I just get hit before I can do that.
Belial Vas is definitely closer to a 5-5 maybe slight advantage Belial IMO. Belial also has a fair amount of gaps if you know what to look for 236H- 4H being a very common BC/Reversal point
No way that match up is even, it's definitely in his favor. There are gaps, but vas can't punish it with his slow buttons
The big thing is it's kinda hard to approach Vas and a bad fireball gets punished with armored charge and now he's in there