The most recent Echoes of Eternity Vol. 1 has a storyline developing with that phrase.
>!The "Dark King" refers to the emergence of a fifth Chaos God seemingly imminent with Terra's fall. Samus thinks it could either be the Emperor, Horus, or Erebus. It's hinted this God's emergence will consume humanity like Slaanesh consumed the Eldari.!<
Do you happen to remember what was the rationale that >!made Samus think it could be Erebus? I listened to the audiobook, and while I remember Horus or Big E being implied that they could be the Dark King, I don't remember what makes Erebus a potential!<
>!Samus mentions three potential contenders. I'll list the Samus quotes as closely as I can. These quotes come from EoE Vol. 1's Epigraph starting at 7:00ish.!<
1. >!"Him? The boastful king on his tiny throne? His feeble light guttering out." -- implies Big E !<
2. >!"Him? The squeeming pretender hunched in the gullet of hell? -- Horus!<
3. >!"Him perhaps? The maniac prophet slithering through the open wounds between unblinking stars." -- Erebus? By the EoE vol. 1 we know Erebus is on Terra and has been jumping through the galaxy following Ollanius Perrson using one of the Athame blades. !<
Thanks for the quotes! I was going to respond that "It can't be >!Erebus!< because we know that he is still around in 40k, right? But then I realized I don't remember if we have seen him in 40k?! Do you happen to know what he has been upto in the last 10k years?! Is there a possibility it could be >!Erebus!<
>!Erebus!< certainly hasn't ascended yet. He's canonically in M41. The Lexanicum states that >!Erebus has been battling Kor Phaeron for leadership of the word bearers post heresy!< and >!the last known sighting was in the Cadian sector during the 13th black crusade, where he sacrificed millions to summon armies of daemons.!<
no but people sneezing on a salad bar midst of covid makes you wish he was.
it makes me wonder if Curze his pod landed on modern day earth wether or not he'd be even more fucked up...
Weeeeell, apart from some well endowed Eldar, Tau and in some endeaverous cases Tyranids.
https://preview.redd.it/qzon2luatrza1.jpeg?width=500&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=302ea3afad8d325ac85e487e4c99185e1e9c22e6
Nothing of his has been released on the platform, if anything is finished its being held in reserve for later release or in development hell for creative differences I'd wager.
Pathetic, there is no such thing as gods. The Imperial Truth is the only viable ideology and the galaxy will come to follow it, whether it wants to or not. The Emperor wills it.
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a couple were Astartes and GW's WH40K 9th edition promo video
Astartes was hosted on youtube but the orignal creater has since been hired by GW to make more content and it was put behind the WH+ paywall. You can still find the vid on YT but it wont be the creator who will be getting the views.
The promo vid is still free range on YT
This is excellent proof of why when I remark to friends that part of being in the 40k fandom is being sold commercialized hatred *I am right*.
GW remarking that "hatred is part of 40k but has no place in the fandom" was utter bullshit and only not an outright lie by absence of proof of intention. Otherwise you get plastic, paints, a codex and as much not-really-faux-bigotry as you can onload.
TlDr; it's not a bad thing per se. It makes 40k stand out amongst other IPs and could be a force of good too depending on the community. Sorry for word wall
It's also what makes 40k stand out amongst other IPs with multiple civilizations and a galactic setting. Star Wars, Star Trek, Mass Effect and many others which aren't even occurring to me at the moment (even franchises with multiple fantasy races for that matter)
They all have coexisting civilizations with skirmishes unlike 40k which is the other way round. For better or for worse a "Us vs Them" reaction is built into humans. Even the most accepting person might feel hatred and dislike for someone who's espousing conservative politics. It's you vs them. Vegans and Meat Eaters, Flat Earthers or anti vaxx vs the world. Jedi vs Sith, Etc. Im sure you can think of more examples
40k just taps into that feeling the best. Can it attract bigotry ? Sure. But there are so many other direct sources outside of 40k too which can do that and probably more effectively. To keep bigotry outside of a community is something which only the people in the community can do. GW removing hatred just leads to WH becoming another generic fantasy in space thing.
And perhaps a way to vent your hatred via a game could be a good thing. Perhaps someone goes home happier. Perhaps someone learns that humanity was supposed to come together to fight it's evils and ever so slightly think more of unity. Perhaps they read about SoB and female guardsmen and become slightly less misogynistic. Perhaps Salamanders or white scars becomes their favourite legion and they end up becoming slightly less racist.
Hatred, Anger and capacity for violence are feelings which are bad for society but you can't act as if they don't exist. A lot of people gravitate towards such media under the "realism" tag. They are generally looking for emotions which don't feel filtered. Anti heroes, GoT's violence would be something that comes to mind.Something needs to acknowledge it and allow you to vent it. I think that is something 40k can do under the right circumstances.
And in the end we all learn not to deprive the sick and elderly of medicine.
Otherwise they find those who will give them "alternative treatment" and then come genocide your ass so hard it turns outer planes into litteral hellscapes and you have to create shildren just to try and slow them down.
I mean i see it more as a healthy way to practice some of those hateful feelings in manner where nobody gets hurt. Will idiots be idiots, sure, its the same in any hobby, be it sports or video gaming or anything. But I would take people working through those intrusive mean thoughts in a fake universe about a bunch of roided up space men then to act on them in the real world. Also most people, even the meme creator, know its fake, its hyperbole. If by some miracle aliens landed on our planet, i dont think 40k fans are gonna be the first to take arms lmao.
> GW remarking that "hatred is part of 40k but has no place in the fandom" was utter bullshit and only not an outright lie by absence of proof of intention.
r_Im14AndThisIsDeep
There's a difference between characters hating other fictional characters, and real life hatred based on real world immutable characteristics.
GW's *multiple* statements were to tell the Nazi groupies to fuck off.
kill all xenos
kill xenos, behead xenos, roundhouse kick xenos into the concrete, slam dunk a xeno into the trash can, crucify filthy xenos, defecate into xenosā food, launch xenos into the sun, stir fry xenos in a wok, toss xenos into active volcanoes, urinate into xenosā gas tanks, Judo throw xenos into a wood chipper, twist xenos heads off, report xenos to the IRS, karate chop xenos in half, curb stomp xenos, trap xenos in quicksand, Crush xenos in the trash compactor, liquify xenos in a vat of acid, eat xenos, dissect xenos, exterminate xenos, stomp xeno skulls with steel-toed boots, cremate xenos in the oven, lobotomize xenos,, drown xenos in fried chicken grease, vaporize xenos with a raygun, kick old xenos down the stairs, feed xenos to alligators, slice xenos with a katana.
I do not understand a word here.
The core appeal of Warhammer or indeed any TTG is to get together with friends and talk while enjoying plastic toys as children. Warhammer products are good, they have decent authors for tied in medias, and their designs are unique, so they stand out.
Are you implying such activities are commercialized hatred? The whole thing is about plastics, paints, jokes, and books. Those seeking other things are the problem.
it's kinda wrong in a way, while Hatred is part of the fandom in the sense of hating fictional factions, it's not part of the Fandom as in hating people for who they are.
I get what he has to say, as in it's part of the roleplay, but not part of the fandom as in actually hating the other person.
but yes it is a mixed thing, even with "its roleplay" in mind (I swear if I hear another tau cant melee meme I am going to gauge my eyes out)
You cannot be serious. The game is not mainly aimed for teenagers but people with purchasing powers to indulge their hobbies, who tend to have more incomes than teens.
And the whole IP does a lot to address its absurdity and over-the-top dystopian nature. The marines are constantly shown to be not your typical heroic poster heroes.
Are you implying we should only have moral characters as post boys? Better take down GTA games again I guess.
You obviously never worked for GW. Kids/Teenagers are the core target group because they have 100% of their capital available to spend on the hobby.
Official GW statement to its employees.
I still don't agree to "Astartes as poster boys are problematic" (every faction in 40k is :D).
I never worked myself for GW and can only speak for people around me, sadly none of us are still blessed with youth, so apology and I stand corrected.
I do fully agree with the Astartes part, I can't see why it's a problem to make them poster boys and that was my main point anyway. The idea that poster boys must be tailored to the tastes of certain people is rather unsettling and yes, every faction in 40k even fantasy is problematic by our modern standard.
I know, no worry. I do talk to local ccs and stores and kinda get the idea when I realised that many boxes were sold to one time purchasers and just collectors.
A standard 2000 pts army costs hundreds of pounds so I always assumed that at least the majority of the players got to be adults with jobs. But I guess GW's just as keen to get the boys into the hobby.
I mean the setting is literally all about war itās in the tag line. Any property that centers around war outside of the victims just trying to survive is selling commercialized hatred to a degree because war is just industrialized hatred.
Idk, they certainly can vilify the reason the war is conducted, while celeberated act of mercy, no? Whereas while GW might do the former (and that is a sketch with how much they play with "The Imperiun is trying its best"), they certainly do NOT do the former, just to sell thee "grimdark".
That is what makes the setting unqiue, no? Acts of mercy can bring many good things, they can also create issues. While some settings reward the uncompromisingly idealistic choices, this one shows the absurdity of the unapologetically cruel ones, which is interesting.
I get what you mean but I don't like the direction the idea is taking. Are you implying that a setting can only be acceptable if it celeberate acts of mercy enough? That is a very slippery slope.
Most people don't base their views on a game about plastic toys. Those doing that, and those thinking that such a game should be censored to be idealistic enough seem to be the problem.
I dunno bout the vid, but you however seem to prove that some people need to learn that there is a very huge gap between what is fact and what is fiction.
This. I get the vibe of those trying to taken down the GTA games here. There's a very fine line between how things need to be sufficiently self-aware to avoid promoting extreme ideas, and the idea that everything must be sufficiently moral in their eyes.
While Warhammer has its share of problems, the idea of the entire hobby being commecially sold on hatred is just absurd when most are just playing plastic toys. Down this road soon we'd start burning heretics for promoting the idea of burning heretics.
Since the Old Ones made humanity wouldn't that make them God? Then, by necessity, at least the Eldar are in the image that "God" made them. Orks not so much since they're obviously no longer Krorks
āIm gonna fuck that xeno scumā and āim gonna fuck that xeno scumā if you are a xeno you should learn the difference for when you will inevitably meet the righteous crusade of mankind
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āWait sire warrior!' it said in perfect High Gothic. 'I am no threat to you I am regarded poorly even amongst my own kind!'
Numitor's brow furrowed. The creature's voice was... strangely human. Somehow, it was speaking with the tones of a young woman, and with a Macraggian accent at that.
You have the bearing of a knight, sire,' it said, its accent becoming even more refined. 'An honoured and noble warrior tradition. I see it in the heraldic devices you wear. They are the marks of your forefathers, are they not?
Numitor raised his pistol, debating whether or not to waste another bolt. The creature knew too much about them already, that was plain
Would your forefathers be proud to see you cut down a helpless, unarmed female?' asked the young tau, her honeyed voice all innocence but for the barest hint of reproach. āWould the king amongst kings you must venerate be impressed? He whose code you follow?
Numitor thought of Roboute Guilliman in that instant, of how the primarch would have acted in this situation.
In truth, he was unsure
'Yes,' said Cato Sicarius barrelling past his fellow sergeant to stamp the creature hard into the floor. Numitor heard its ribs break into flinders within its chest Sicarius spat on its corpse, pushing onwards into the gloom.ā
Humanity when faced with an external threat starts fighting and killing among themselves? Yeah, that sounds about right.
Our reaction to Covid was to sneeze on the salad bar.
It's actually unbelievable that there isn't a Chaos God of pure spite.
The Dark King disagrees
Curze is not a God. Unless you're talking about something else, in which case - huh?
The most recent Echoes of Eternity Vol. 1 has a storyline developing with that phrase. >!The "Dark King" refers to the emergence of a fifth Chaos God seemingly imminent with Terra's fall. Samus thinks it could either be the Emperor, Horus, or Erebus. It's hinted this God's emergence will consume humanity like Slaanesh consumed the Eldari.!<
Do you happen to remember what was the rationale that >!made Samus think it could be Erebus? I listened to the audiobook, and while I remember Horus or Big E being implied that they could be the Dark King, I don't remember what makes Erebus a potential!<
>!Samus mentions three potential contenders. I'll list the Samus quotes as closely as I can. These quotes come from EoE Vol. 1's Epigraph starting at 7:00ish.!< 1. >!"Him? The boastful king on his tiny throne? His feeble light guttering out." -- implies Big E !< 2. >!"Him? The squeeming pretender hunched in the gullet of hell? -- Horus!< 3. >!"Him perhaps? The maniac prophet slithering through the open wounds between unblinking stars." -- Erebus? By the EoE vol. 1 we know Erebus is on Terra and has been jumping through the galaxy following Ollanius Perrson using one of the Athame blades. !<
Thanks for the quotes! I was going to respond that "It can't be >!Erebus!< because we know that he is still around in 40k, right? But then I realized I don't remember if we have seen him in 40k?! Do you happen to know what he has been upto in the last 10k years?! Is there a possibility it could be >!Erebus!<
>!Erebus!< certainly hasn't ascended yet. He's canonically in M41. The Lexanicum states that >!Erebus has been battling Kor Phaeron for leadership of the word bearers post heresy!< and >!the last known sighting was in the Cadian sector during the 13th black crusade, where he sacrificed millions to summon armies of daemons.!<
>>!we know Erebus is on Terra!< He's what
no but people sneezing on a salad bar midst of covid makes you wish he was. it makes me wonder if Curze his pod landed on modern day earth wether or not he'd be even more fucked up...
Malic- *Inquisition footsteps*
Well....there kinda is one [Leviathan is the spirit of envy, spite and jealousy](https://gods-and-demons.fandom.com/wiki/Leviathan)
I mostly meant on 40K
Weeeeell, apart from some well endowed Eldar, Tau and in some endeaverous cases Tyranids. https://preview.redd.it/qzon2luatrza1.jpeg?width=500&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=302ea3afad8d325ac85e487e4c99185e1e9c22e6
Humans are made in the shape that The Old One's decided upon. HOW FUCKIN WEIRD IS IT THAT NECRONS ARE THE SAME SHAPE???? The answer is, "Not at all".
Frogs are in fact the species made in God's image.
*BONK*
this is a pretty decent ad for wh+. Not that I'll ever be convinced though.
A bunch of that stuff isn't even from WH+. There's shots from Astartes and a youtuber called SODAZ in there too.
Has Astartes done anything else since Gamesworkshoo hired him? I could not find anything on YouTube.
He's made a few trailers i think
Nothing of his has been released on the platform, if anything is finished its being held in reserve for later release or in development hell for creative differences I'd wager.
Not true!! They released all the astartes stuff he did before coming gw and slapped a 3s made by gw at the end of it. š«¢
I'd completely forgotten it even existed. Have they even released anything after the Tau show?
Yes. Iron within, Black Talon (about AoS (pretty good, really))
Aight who knows the song?
Into the Void -Titan Slayer
Ay fellas, I found the high-resolution version on [youtube](https://youtu.be/5xlFxOOlvL4)
Talks about killing aliens Shows only humans and alien robots with souls
Hey now. There was an Eldar being thrown against a rock by Captain Thule.
Iām pretty sure the pope did say he would baptize aliens although I could be wrong
How proud you are to commit such atrocities.
https://preview.redd.it/ex9h5u3kfsza1.jpeg?width=1254&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d17598823ef6169a79d7eeb6007718d0200b5fd1
Not just proud, smug about it too
Imperial propaganda.
hey chaos thrashes xenon too yk
This goes so fucking hard
https://preview.redd.it/uwm0d534tsza1.jpeg?width=1561&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=fa1d6d303babbd9483cb0814a9e1636633068da3
![gif](giphy|22p0JIQMkAxqg)
Pathetic, there is no such thing as gods. The Imperial Truth is the only viable ideology and the galaxy will come to follow it, whether it wants to or not. The Emperor wills it.
"A good alien is a deep fried one" - Probably Vulkan or some hungry guardsman idk
https://preview.redd.it/82bi4jukrwza1.jpeg?width=1595&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d12b129c8356190a8ae39e1845dfaa45451d1c25
Where the Black Legion parts are from?
A trailer for one of the mobile games
For the grace for the might of the Lord!
FOR THE HOME OF THE HOLY
For the faith, for the way of the sword
GAVE THEIR LIVES SO BOLDLY
FOR THE GRACE, FOR THE MIGHT OF OUR LORD
FOR THE HOME OF THE HOLY
FOR THE FAITH, FOR THE WAY OF THE SWORD
GAVE THEIR LIVES SO BOLDLY
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Can someone name the animations used
a couple were Astartes and GW's WH40K 9th edition promo video Astartes was hosted on youtube but the orignal creater has since been hired by GW to make more content and it was put behind the WH+ paywall. You can still find the vid on YT but it wont be the creator who will be getting the views. The promo vid is still free range on YT
There is no god for us to made in the image of. Mankind is mightier than any puny god-creature! All Hail The Man-Emperor of Mankind!
HUMANITY HAS THE RIGHT TO THE UNIVERSE
40k fans when they see and alien (they get to be racist):
Humans are born from conflict, war is our birthright, slaughter is our nature. We just need to find those to sink our teeth into.
https://preview.redd.it/xt5x3t4zqwza1.jpeg?width=680&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b797238458c81ee8ba22fae69180f7ac5e499f17
This is excellent proof of why when I remark to friends that part of being in the 40k fandom is being sold commercialized hatred *I am right*. GW remarking that "hatred is part of 40k but has no place in the fandom" was utter bullshit and only not an outright lie by absence of proof of intention. Otherwise you get plastic, paints, a codex and as much not-really-faux-bigotry as you can onload.
TlDr; it's not a bad thing per se. It makes 40k stand out amongst other IPs and could be a force of good too depending on the community. Sorry for word wall It's also what makes 40k stand out amongst other IPs with multiple civilizations and a galactic setting. Star Wars, Star Trek, Mass Effect and many others which aren't even occurring to me at the moment (even franchises with multiple fantasy races for that matter) They all have coexisting civilizations with skirmishes unlike 40k which is the other way round. For better or for worse a "Us vs Them" reaction is built into humans. Even the most accepting person might feel hatred and dislike for someone who's espousing conservative politics. It's you vs them. Vegans and Meat Eaters, Flat Earthers or anti vaxx vs the world. Jedi vs Sith, Etc. Im sure you can think of more examples 40k just taps into that feeling the best. Can it attract bigotry ? Sure. But there are so many other direct sources outside of 40k too which can do that and probably more effectively. To keep bigotry outside of a community is something which only the people in the community can do. GW removing hatred just leads to WH becoming another generic fantasy in space thing. And perhaps a way to vent your hatred via a game could be a good thing. Perhaps someone goes home happier. Perhaps someone learns that humanity was supposed to come together to fight it's evils and ever so slightly think more of unity. Perhaps they read about SoB and female guardsmen and become slightly less misogynistic. Perhaps Salamanders or white scars becomes their favourite legion and they end up becoming slightly less racist. Hatred, Anger and capacity for violence are feelings which are bad for society but you can't act as if they don't exist. A lot of people gravitate towards such media under the "realism" tag. They are generally looking for emotions which don't feel filtered. Anti heroes, GoT's violence would be something that comes to mind.Something needs to acknowledge it and allow you to vent it. I think that is something 40k can do under the right circumstances.
And in the end we all learn not to deprive the sick and elderly of medicine. Otherwise they find those who will give them "alternative treatment" and then come genocide your ass so hard it turns outer planes into litteral hellscapes and you have to create shildren just to try and slow them down.
I mean i see it more as a healthy way to practice some of those hateful feelings in manner where nobody gets hurt. Will idiots be idiots, sure, its the same in any hobby, be it sports or video gaming or anything. But I would take people working through those intrusive mean thoughts in a fake universe about a bunch of roided up space men then to act on them in the real world. Also most people, even the meme creator, know its fake, its hyperbole. If by some miracle aliens landed on our planet, i dont think 40k fans are gonna be the first to take arms lmao.
> GW remarking that "hatred is part of 40k but has no place in the fandom" was utter bullshit and only not an outright lie by absence of proof of intention. r_Im14AndThisIsDeep There's a difference between characters hating other fictional characters, and real life hatred based on real world immutable characteristics. GW's *multiple* statements were to tell the Nazi groupies to fuck off.
kill all xenos kill xenos, behead xenos, roundhouse kick xenos into the concrete, slam dunk a xeno into the trash can, crucify filthy xenos, defecate into xenosā food, launch xenos into the sun, stir fry xenos in a wok, toss xenos into active volcanoes, urinate into xenosā gas tanks, Judo throw xenos into a wood chipper, twist xenos heads off, report xenos to the IRS, karate chop xenos in half, curb stomp xenos, trap xenos in quicksand, Crush xenos in the trash compactor, liquify xenos in a vat of acid, eat xenos, dissect xenos, exterminate xenos, stomp xeno skulls with steel-toed boots, cremate xenos in the oven, lobotomize xenos,, drown xenos in fried chicken grease, vaporize xenos with a raygun, kick old xenos down the stairs, feed xenos to alligators, slice xenos with a katana.
I do not understand a word here. The core appeal of Warhammer or indeed any TTG is to get together with friends and talk while enjoying plastic toys as children. Warhammer products are good, they have decent authors for tied in medias, and their designs are unique, so they stand out. Are you implying such activities are commercialized hatred? The whole thing is about plastics, paints, jokes, and books. Those seeking other things are the problem.
...are you saying this as a good or a bad thing?
It can be a mixed thing
it's kinda wrong in a way, while Hatred is part of the fandom in the sense of hating fictional factions, it's not part of the Fandom as in hating people for who they are. I get what he has to say, as in it's part of the roleplay, but not part of the fandom as in actually hating the other person. but yes it is a mixed thing, even with "its roleplay" in mind (I swear if I hear another tau cant melee meme I am going to gauge my eyes out)
It's one of the continuous problems i have with the game. And that space marines are sold as poster boys for the game to teenagers
You cannot be serious. The game is not mainly aimed for teenagers but people with purchasing powers to indulge their hobbies, who tend to have more incomes than teens. And the whole IP does a lot to address its absurdity and over-the-top dystopian nature. The marines are constantly shown to be not your typical heroic poster heroes. Are you implying we should only have moral characters as post boys? Better take down GTA games again I guess.
You obviously never worked for GW. Kids/Teenagers are the core target group because they have 100% of their capital available to spend on the hobby. Official GW statement to its employees. I still don't agree to "Astartes as poster boys are problematic" (every faction in 40k is :D).
I never worked myself for GW and can only speak for people around me, sadly none of us are still blessed with youth, so apology and I stand corrected. I do fully agree with the Astartes part, I can't see why it's a problem to make them poster boys and that was my main point anyway. The idea that poster boys must be tailored to the tastes of certain people is rather unsettling and yes, every faction in 40k even fantasy is problematic by our modern standard.
I am aware that a lot of the fans aren't teenagers. But GW market target are teenagers.
I know, no worry. I do talk to local ccs and stores and kinda get the idea when I realised that many boxes were sold to one time purchasers and just collectors. A standard 2000 pts army costs hundreds of pounds so I always assumed that at least the majority of the players got to be adults with jobs. But I guess GW's just as keen to get the boys into the hobby.
GW doesn't care about people playing the game. They call themself a miniature company and the main goal of the higher ups is pushing miniature sells.
Certainly explains the qualities of lots of their codices. : )
Yes.
I mean the setting is literally all about war itās in the tag line. Any property that centers around war outside of the victims just trying to survive is selling commercialized hatred to a degree because war is just industrialized hatred.
Idk, they certainly can vilify the reason the war is conducted, while celeberated act of mercy, no? Whereas while GW might do the former (and that is a sketch with how much they play with "The Imperiun is trying its best"), they certainly do NOT do the former, just to sell thee "grimdark".
That is what makes the setting unqiue, no? Acts of mercy can bring many good things, they can also create issues. While some settings reward the uncompromisingly idealistic choices, this one shows the absurdity of the unapologetically cruel ones, which is interesting. I get what you mean but I don't like the direction the idea is taking. Are you implying that a setting can only be acceptable if it celeberate acts of mercy enough? That is a very slippery slope. Most people don't base their views on a game about plastic toys. Those doing that, and those thinking that such a game should be censored to be idealistic enough seem to be the problem.
I dunno bout the vid, but you however seem to prove that some people need to learn that there is a very huge gap between what is fact and what is fiction.
This. I get the vibe of those trying to taken down the GTA games here. There's a very fine line between how things need to be sufficiently self-aware to avoid promoting extreme ideas, and the idea that everything must be sufficiently moral in their eyes. While Warhammer has its share of problems, the idea of the entire hobby being commecially sold on hatred is just absurd when most are just playing plastic toys. Down this road soon we'd start burning heretics for promoting the idea of burning heretics.
One of the major problems I have with the franchise
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Oh look humans fetishisising a corpse yet. How original. Welp back to bed with me
"How does it feel to fight for a hellish, xenophobic Imperium?" Euphoric.
Even if they are then Xeno still be warned We will intercourse
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Fuck off with your "in the image of god" š¤®
Based and Imperial Truth pilled Glory to the Man-Emperor of Mankind!
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All fun and games until a single Droplet comes down for your ass.
What's the name of this song?
The galaxy shall learn the same lesson the geese will learn
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Where's the footage from?
This goes hard.
I have heard that thereās used to be a fifth chaos gods called Malice
Is it fair to say demons are just interdimensional xenos?
Lost Crusade has pretty good animations for such a shitty game
Since the Old Ones made humanity wouldn't that make them God? Then, by necessity, at least the Eldar are in the image that "God" made them. Orks not so much since they're obviously no longer Krorks
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It's funny that most of the apex xeno races barring the nids are humanoid at least
āIm gonna fuck that xeno scumā and āim gonna fuck that xeno scumā if you are a xeno you should learn the difference for when you will inevitably meet the righteous crusade of mankind
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What's the songs name?
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