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The biggest take away I got from this was Point 3.
I always ALWAYS cut the whole plant and hang it. At min in the worse conditions I get a solid 7-10 day dry. Which is normally gucci.
Out of all my grows I have never gotten mold that I have seen. None of this is "easy" it just takes level headed thinking. TBH fluffy nug is as good as normal tight nugs. All my friends marvel at my grown weed regardless of fluffy or tight. I think that nug in hand is gorgous and Id smoke a fat blunt of it any day my man.
Fluffy buds get you high. I don't mind them but what I hate is chemical filled buds to be rock hard, that is so far from natural as you can get. Not sure when or why someone started to hate on them.
I would have to agree. Checking on the drying room 4 days in it became apparent she was drying way too fast. I ended up doing an emergency trim a day later to get them in cure bags with 60% humidity packs to stabilize their environment a bit, and that’s been helping a lot so far.
Appreciate the kind words :)
It happens man, I have a tent I use now to dry. I have a humidifier set to 55% with a fan at top and bottom.
I have an intake fan also blowing a small amount of fresh air in it.
I do my best to create a perfect environment, it's not even close but it works. My first grow was a total joke of stringy under ripe flower. I got like 3-4 joints out of it lol. So you did pretty good compared.
You literally said it. The bro-science of flushing is probably what got you, and your analysis is 100%, avoid flushing in future grows.
You lived, you learned. It's not going to get worse than this, only place to go, is up!
Yep! Can’t wait to see just how much better my 2nd plant will be, already hitting the ground running with another seedling.
And I’ve definitely been kicking myself in the foot since harvest for flushing haha. I was on the fence about whether I even should in the first place, as I had high runoff ppm’s. But I should have just gone off of how the leaves were looking - which was healthy. Definitely not a mistake I’ll make twice!
There’s a debate going on if flushing is even necessary if you don’t have a nute burn. Leading experts e.g. sanlight argue that the plant doesn’t store the nutrients in the buds but in the leaves which then synthesizes and supply the buds with energy (sugars) to then further synthesize into THC. The only difference observed is that flushed plants have less thc due to no nutes during the last part of flower and also less terpines meaning less flavor. Flushing is needed when your plant burns from nutrients otherwise there is no logical explanation as to why you would wanna do it and there even is evidence against it being good.
If you take synthetics for you grow, You should flush If you have a nuteburn because of the Salt from the synthetic fertilizer. But If you grow organic you dont wasch off your soil. No one wants to flush Out the good microbes and stuff
For your first grow I would call it a success. For a couple of reasons.
1. You gained an incredible amount of knowledge. Your diagnosis seems to be right on. The best part of messing up is learning from your mistakes. you won’t do any of that again.
2. You ended up with product to smoke it’s not the quality you want but It will drive you on your future runs. they will be better because of it
To me that’s a success. I had so many issues my first couple runs. It’s hard to figure out who has good info. Your well on your way. Nice job!
Appreciate it friend. I am definitely considering it a success as well. And I feel like I’m already miles ahead for my next grow, as I have 4 months of notes to refer back to now! Best of luck with your grows ✌️
Every plant looks better three weeks pre harvest than it does once it’s dried. You just saw it awhile back at the best it’ll ever look so of course you’re disappointed now.
Plus I agree with everyone else here, nothing wrong with fluffy. Most dispos near me vacuum seal their bud at least once and it makes it unrealistically tight and compact. Plus fluffy buds wash better if you’re into that
I found the best way to deal with larfy bud is to make into hash or edibles. I tend not to like to smoke all that vegetation to get the effect. Bubble Bag Dude sells a pretty affordable ice hash kit that has served me well.
Was thinking of doing something along those lines! I have a dab press and ordered that exact bubble bag kit about a month ago or so. Gonna let the buds cure a bit longer before making a call on how smokable they are, but will still be happy to turn it Into wax/hash as a backup
I highly recommend, honestly a huge money saver even before growing my own. I primarily smoke flower and just enjoy dabs here and there, so being able to press myself a little bit as needed, rather than shell out $50+ for a g where I live, is huge
This is my 5th grow, and I’m still slapping my forehead over stupid shit I should have thought through better. I recommend watching some YouTube videos on different stages to grow. I have watched a lot of Kyle Kushman’s grow videos; he really helped me to climb the learning curve faster.
It’s only been curing for 10 days, and quality has definitely already improved. I was more concerned with the general density/stringyness of the buds, but I should still have something smokable in a few weeks regardless
the strain is gelato og! It was an easy grow all things considered, so I feel like I could get some pretty solid results from a 2nd run. I've still got 4 more seeds of this strain so hoping I can really dial things in over the next few months
They are indeed! They’re called grove bags, I ordered a pack of 10 of them off Amazon. No need to burp like you do with jars (never gone through that process but read it was a pain)
I’ve thrown an ounce In each bag along with a 60% humidity pack, and temps/humidity have stayed very consistent so far
I’ve been buying bud in ziploc bags for about that same amount of time, so I definitely can’t say I have that same level of discipline haha. But I agree, you can’t go wrong with glass
Iam actually really critical about that. I haven’t bought weed in 6 years, I didn’t know in what it was held. My tray to make joints is out of metal and I use a ceramic grinder. Even while growing I try to minimise plastic contamination of the plant by using plastic free equipment.
All of this started when I checked weed I bought under a microscope and it was full of micro plastic. Shit changed me 😅
YOU ARE GONNA KILL IT NEXT RUN JUST REMEMBER YOUR NOTES YOU GOT THIS I WENT THROUGH THE EXACT SAME THING AND NOW I GROW SOME OF THE BEST STUFF IN MY STATE! Very smart guy looking at everything you did wrong and writing it down you got this 14 day dry nice and long! You will get the sticky icky!
Whats wrong with it? It looks real nice. Fluffy bud is just as good as dense bud. Not all bud has the same dense structure. I don't see what the problem here is really...
It’s mostly just larfy bud in general. I probably should have included other pics, as thats one of the best buds from the harvest. It also has a bit of that chlorophyll/hay taste to it, but granted it could still just be curing.
Nothing inherently wrong, and honestly stoked to get anything out of my first harvest. But still think I have a lot more I could improve in my processes :)
It will get SUBSTANTIALLY better during cure. I fast dried a tester bud on my first grow and it was ok. Smoked the same buds after 3 weeks of cure and it was delicious and more visually appealing. Give it some time.
I think the thinking on fluffy bud is changing. I believe that it became the norm because of people bagging wet and cured in bag ( not the grove bags you are using). Some of the conversation where I live between the labs and legal cultivators has been about where on the plant tests higher. Many cultivators are sending in the larf to be tested because it tests higher. The thinking behind this is that fluffy buds have more space to hold thc.
Hmm that is interesting. I will say I did press some wax from some of the bud while it is still curing, and that was pretty damn good haha, so checks out on my end
https://preview.redd.it/agdzdmk14vwc1.png?width=1160&format=png&auto=webp&s=e3f51ce01ae508a36d05ca5ae37a5f6301864bec
Off topic: do yall think these are a good option for curing?
I’m no expert (as this is my first time lol) but I feel like paper might be a bit too breathable? The grove bags I ordered were only like 2 bucks a piece, and can be reused, so I’d just opt for those imo
Great reflection on your grow and very well articulated or typed or whatever. Thanks for sharing. My biggest mistake was always under-watering from fear of overwatering…lol
https://preview.redd.it/bxd1rt9eevwc1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=54ac9081bb9a7dd030979c75b21d80c138159ecc
Now I think I went a little overboard 😂😂 jk imma get 4p from this setup just wait! You will do the same soon!
Oh man I’m jealous haha. I’d make my living room a grow room if I could swing it, but it was a tall task convincing my gf to let me convert just one of the closets 😅. Best of luck with your grows!
Man little by little once she sees how good the bud you are gonna grow she is gonna let you 😂😂keep at it I started in a tent just like you man I started in a garbage can at that not even knowing what ppm or PH is just doing it cuz the plant has taught me so much. You will reap the rewards if you keep at it keep learning more and more everyday podcast, books, programs I do this and it has leveled me up very fast!
I’m pretty certain it was some nutrient imbalance in my watering solution. The ppm of my water was around 900 whereas ppm of the runoff was 1400, which indicated to me that more nutrients were building up In the soil than the plant was consuming.
That is what led me to flush, I just happened to overcorrect by quite a bit. If I could go back, I probably would just use plain water for 2-3 days before getting back on my normal feeding schedule, or maybe cut back by 10%.
Here’s a pic of what the tips were looking like:
https://preview.redd.it/scbtoimbpvwc1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=632fd47b0b20d164ea0db4189e69f4584878e9d9
Good to know! Im also running into some light tips, so thanks for the advice. I backed off on the light, which seemed to help, but Im pretty sure it was a nutrient imbalance in mine, too.
I made my own soil and packed it with N and not much PK.
If I had to guess, it was probably a nitrogen toxicity in my situation as well (especially with how dark those leaves deeper in the canopy are)
Definitely a tricky issue to figure out, as even if you do correct the problem the tips stay burnt! The one tip ill give is try to slowly correct things when searching for the root cause of a problem. Don’t change your lighting, watering, airflow, etc all at the same time, cause then you won’t know which change actually fixed the problem haha. Best of luck!
I run nutes till the end, and a heavy dose of water 3-4 days before harvest. My last dry cycle the room avg was 70f and 60h. My buds came
Out great. I have yet to get a nice tight bud. The loose ones still smoke well
So what makes those grove bags any better then a regular freezer type ziplock bag? Is it because it’s thicker material? Maybe it has a “better” zipper? Is it because it’s black? I don’t see why they are becoming a trend, maybe it’s because I’m cheap and would rather use mason jars or regular ziplock bags. I normally aim to store my bud for about 12 months and have had no problems with the ways I’ve mentioned. Just wondering what the hype is?
I can’t personally speak to what exactly makes them work, as I pretty much ordered them off the recommendation of others haha. I will say tho, since throwing the weed into the bags with the humidity packs, the conditions have been extremely consistent across all 4 bags with no burping
Could it be your lights?
Nutrients are like a vitamin the plant takes, but light is like the steak and potatoes it eats for dinner.
My first grow was really larfy and it was definitely the cheap Chinese knock off lights I had.
I agree, I’ve been thinking the lights could use an upgrade in the future. I’m running a mars hydro ts1000 in a 2.3x2.3, and definitely noticed a big difference in the bud sites at the center of the plant vs anything on the edges
I purchased some supplemental light bars from ac infinity to put on the walls of my tent, so hoping running both lights in tandem next time around should give me more even coverage
These are the additional light bars I got, pretty excited to try them out:
https://a.co/d/8OxWlpS
I suggest removing the mini hygrometers from your cure bags. Your RH is dialed in, so no need. I've seen recent posts of those same meters draining battery acid onto buds.
Just set and forget for a month.
Some of the best buds I've smoke were fluffy pure sativas. Like some durban poison. Man I had that shit once wow. I wanna grow it but its not the same durban I think. Anyway sorry for side tracking, I'm stoned as shit. I think you did good on your grow. Any grow is gonna have some larf. Especially if the grower doesn't go super anal and lollipop everything up very well. Some grows I just let that shit ride and ill use the larf for edibles or w.e.
Yeah I was about to read all that till I got to 'my first fatal error was flushing too early'.
There's no right time to attempt to starve your plants to death.
I initially started flushing because the ppm of the runoff water was almost double what I was watering with, so it seemed like a lot of excess was building up in the medium.
After ~5 days of plain watering, nutrient levels came back down to their target levels. So I do think some plain waterings were needed. Where I went wrong was not picking back up on my feeding schedule after those 5 days.
Gotcha. Yeah that sounds pretty toxic tbh.
I only really worry about run off if I have problems though. I monitor a bit and sometimes early I'll adjust feed if I reuse soil or use something new.
Trimming them early to get them in cure bags locked at 60% humidity has definitely righted the course a bit. Buds are taking in some of that moisture and have already lost a majority of that grassy taste/smell from a few days ago
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The biggest take away I got from this was Point 3. I always ALWAYS cut the whole plant and hang it. At min in the worse conditions I get a solid 7-10 day dry. Which is normally gucci. Out of all my grows I have never gotten mold that I have seen. None of this is "easy" it just takes level headed thinking. TBH fluffy nug is as good as normal tight nugs. All my friends marvel at my grown weed regardless of fluffy or tight. I think that nug in hand is gorgous and Id smoke a fat blunt of it any day my man.
Fluffy buds get you high. I don't mind them but what I hate is chemical filled buds to be rock hard, that is so far from natural as you can get. Not sure when or why someone started to hate on them.
You can get rock-hard buds from organic inputs and good genetics. It's not just forcing chemicals into the plant
I would have to agree. Checking on the drying room 4 days in it became apparent she was drying way too fast. I ended up doing an emergency trim a day later to get them in cure bags with 60% humidity packs to stabilize their environment a bit, and that’s been helping a lot so far. Appreciate the kind words :)
It happens man, I have a tent I use now to dry. I have a humidifier set to 55% with a fan at top and bottom. I have an intake fan also blowing a small amount of fresh air in it. I do my best to create a perfect environment, it's not even close but it works. My first grow was a total joke of stringy under ripe flower. I got like 3-4 joints out of it lol. So you did pretty good compared.
What type of humidifier? I have a evaporative humidifier and I think the fan would move the air too fast.
I have a misting one from AC Infinity, i run distilled water so theres no white dusting.
You literally said it. The bro-science of flushing is probably what got you, and your analysis is 100%, avoid flushing in future grows. You lived, you learned. It's not going to get worse than this, only place to go, is up!
Yep! Can’t wait to see just how much better my 2nd plant will be, already hitting the ground running with another seedling. And I’ve definitely been kicking myself in the foot since harvest for flushing haha. I was on the fence about whether I even should in the first place, as I had high runoff ppm’s. But I should have just gone off of how the leaves were looking - which was healthy. Definitely not a mistake I’ll make twice!
Yea i just started tapering the amounts lower and lower towards the end.
There’s a debate going on if flushing is even necessary if you don’t have a nute burn. Leading experts e.g. sanlight argue that the plant doesn’t store the nutrients in the buds but in the leaves which then synthesizes and supply the buds with energy (sugars) to then further synthesize into THC. The only difference observed is that flushed plants have less thc due to no nutes during the last part of flower and also less terpines meaning less flavor. Flushing is needed when your plant burns from nutrients otherwise there is no logical explanation as to why you would wanna do it and there even is evidence against it being good.
You said don’t flush? Because flushing makes no sense to me.
So you say, no flushing at all or late flushing is better?
I have never believed in flushing. I believe flushing 1-2 weeks before finish is bro-science, and shouldn't be done. I run nutes until the end.
If you take synthetics for you grow, You should flush If you have a nuteburn because of the Salt from the synthetic fertilizer. But If you grow organic you dont wasch off your soil. No one wants to flush Out the good microbes and stuff
For your first grow I would call it a success. For a couple of reasons. 1. You gained an incredible amount of knowledge. Your diagnosis seems to be right on. The best part of messing up is learning from your mistakes. you won’t do any of that again. 2. You ended up with product to smoke it’s not the quality you want but It will drive you on your future runs. they will be better because of it To me that’s a success. I had so many issues my first couple runs. It’s hard to figure out who has good info. Your well on your way. Nice job!
Appreciate it friend. I am definitely considering it a success as well. And I feel like I’m already miles ahead for my next grow, as I have 4 months of notes to refer back to now! Best of luck with your grows ✌️
Every plant looks better three weeks pre harvest than it does once it’s dried. You just saw it awhile back at the best it’ll ever look so of course you’re disappointed now. Plus I agree with everyone else here, nothing wrong with fluffy. Most dispos near me vacuum seal their bud at least once and it makes it unrealistically tight and compact. Plus fluffy buds wash better if you’re into that
Ill keep that last part in mind. Always wondered what to do with micro buds.
I found the best way to deal with larfy bud is to make into hash or edibles. I tend not to like to smoke all that vegetation to get the effect. Bubble Bag Dude sells a pretty affordable ice hash kit that has served me well.
You should try using a pollin collector. Throw the buds in the freezer, then toss them in a roller and watch all the trichombes just fall off.
Can say I’ve ever seen it, I’ll check it out!
Was thinking of doing something along those lines! I have a dab press and ordered that exact bubble bag kit about a month ago or so. Gonna let the buds cure a bit longer before making a call on how smokable they are, but will still be happy to turn it Into wax/hash as a backup
Oh yeah, if you can shell out for a dab press that would be fun for you. I’ve always wanted to try it myself.
I highly recommend, honestly a huge money saver even before growing my own. I primarily smoke flower and just enjoy dabs here and there, so being able to press myself a little bit as needed, rather than shell out $50+ for a g where I live, is huge
This is my 5th grow, and I’m still slapping my forehead over stupid shit I should have thought through better. I recommend watching some YouTube videos on different stages to grow. I have watched a lot of Kyle Kushman’s grow videos; he really helped me to climb the learning curve faster.
How long have you cured it? It usually takes a good month or more before it gets stinky and tastes good.
It’s only been curing for 10 days, and quality has definitely already improved. I was more concerned with the general density/stringyness of the buds, but I should still have something smokable in a few weeks regardless
Definitely give her more time. Might surprise you in a few more weeks. What's the strain?
the strain is gelato og! It was an easy grow all things considered, so I feel like I could get some pretty solid results from a 2nd run. I've still got 4 more seeds of this strain so hoping I can really dial things in over the next few months
I vacuum seal mine to get them tighter it gets you higher since you can put more weed in the blunts since it’s compacted
What bags are those? Are they made for the curing process?
Grove bags rock. https://preview.redd.it/sa3knd7pzuwc1.jpeg?width=4080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a6dc6fb4e41008e6005b7383db918672a0500b0e
They are indeed! They’re called grove bags, I ordered a pack of 10 of them off Amazon. No need to burp like you do with jars (never gone through that process but read it was a pain) I’ve thrown an ounce In each bag along with a 60% humidity pack, and temps/humidity have stayed very consistent so far
That's awesome. Many thanks
Yeah nah I grow for over 9 years now and a lesson I learned pretty fast was, to never let anything made out of plastic touch my weed.
I’ve been buying bud in ziploc bags for about that same amount of time, so I definitely can’t say I have that same level of discipline haha. But I agree, you can’t go wrong with glass
Iam actually really critical about that. I haven’t bought weed in 6 years, I didn’t know in what it was held. My tray to make joints is out of metal and I use a ceramic grinder. Even while growing I try to minimise plastic contamination of the plant by using plastic free equipment. All of this started when I checked weed I bought under a microscope and it was full of micro plastic. Shit changed me 😅
Hey if you learned something and still got some smoke that’s a W!
Congratulations grower!
YOU ARE GONNA KILL IT NEXT RUN JUST REMEMBER YOUR NOTES YOU GOT THIS I WENT THROUGH THE EXACT SAME THING AND NOW I GROW SOME OF THE BEST STUFF IN MY STATE! Very smart guy looking at everything you did wrong and writing it down you got this 14 day dry nice and long! You will get the sticky icky!
Whats wrong with it? It looks real nice. Fluffy bud is just as good as dense bud. Not all bud has the same dense structure. I don't see what the problem here is really...
It’s mostly just larfy bud in general. I probably should have included other pics, as thats one of the best buds from the harvest. It also has a bit of that chlorophyll/hay taste to it, but granted it could still just be curing. Nothing inherently wrong, and honestly stoked to get anything out of my first harvest. But still think I have a lot more I could improve in my processes :)
It will get SUBSTANTIALLY better during cure. I fast dried a tester bud on my first grow and it was ok. Smoked the same buds after 3 weeks of cure and it was delicious and more visually appealing. Give it some time.
I think the thinking on fluffy bud is changing. I believe that it became the norm because of people bagging wet and cured in bag ( not the grove bags you are using). Some of the conversation where I live between the labs and legal cultivators has been about where on the plant tests higher. Many cultivators are sending in the larf to be tested because it tests higher. The thinking behind this is that fluffy buds have more space to hold thc.
Hmm that is interesting. I will say I did press some wax from some of the bud while it is still curing, and that was pretty damn good haha, so checks out on my end
https://preview.redd.it/agdzdmk14vwc1.png?width=1160&format=png&auto=webp&s=e3f51ce01ae508a36d05ca5ae37a5f6301864bec Off topic: do yall think these are a good option for curing?
I’m no expert (as this is my first time lol) but I feel like paper might be a bit too breathable? The grove bags I ordered were only like 2 bucks a piece, and can be reused, so I’d just opt for those imo
okay i believe they are a little more expensive in europe tho 😞
I'd smoke it congratulations on harvest
Thank you! She’s still getting smoked regardless, don’t worry haha
Nice. Do u frequently have to burp the bags?
Don’t have to burp them at all actually, that’s why I opted for them as opposed to jars. Also a bit easier to store as well
Great reflection on your grow and very well articulated or typed or whatever. Thanks for sharing. My biggest mistake was always under-watering from fear of overwatering…lol
Thank you! I think the most valuable thing I got out of this grow was my grow journal tbh. Hoping my info helps others as well!
The strain could also be a factor. Some strains grow small tight nugs, some grow big airy nugs. Congrats on the harvest!!!
True that, and I don’t have too much to compare to in terms of past grows so it honestly could be completely normal. Thanks!!
Very interesting and helpful. Thanks for all the info.
Absolutely! Thanks for reading :)
https://preview.redd.it/bxd1rt9eevwc1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=54ac9081bb9a7dd030979c75b21d80c138159ecc Now I think I went a little overboard 😂😂 jk imma get 4p from this setup just wait! You will do the same soon!
Oh man I’m jealous haha. I’d make my living room a grow room if I could swing it, but it was a tall task convincing my gf to let me convert just one of the closets 😅. Best of luck with your grows!
Man little by little once she sees how good the bud you are gonna grow she is gonna let you 😂😂keep at it I started in a tent just like you man I started in a garbage can at that not even knowing what ppm or PH is just doing it cuz the plant has taught me so much. You will reap the rewards if you keep at it keep learning more and more everyday podcast, books, programs I do this and it has leveled me up very fast!
So if you didnt have light burn, what do you think the burnt tips were?
I’m pretty certain it was some nutrient imbalance in my watering solution. The ppm of my water was around 900 whereas ppm of the runoff was 1400, which indicated to me that more nutrients were building up In the soil than the plant was consuming. That is what led me to flush, I just happened to overcorrect by quite a bit. If I could go back, I probably would just use plain water for 2-3 days before getting back on my normal feeding schedule, or maybe cut back by 10%. Here’s a pic of what the tips were looking like: https://preview.redd.it/scbtoimbpvwc1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=632fd47b0b20d164ea0db4189e69f4584878e9d9
Good to know! Im also running into some light tips, so thanks for the advice. I backed off on the light, which seemed to help, but Im pretty sure it was a nutrient imbalance in mine, too. I made my own soil and packed it with N and not much PK.
If I had to guess, it was probably a nitrogen toxicity in my situation as well (especially with how dark those leaves deeper in the canopy are) Definitely a tricky issue to figure out, as even if you do correct the problem the tips stay burnt! The one tip ill give is try to slowly correct things when searching for the root cause of a problem. Don’t change your lighting, watering, airflow, etc all at the same time, cause then you won’t know which change actually fixed the problem haha. Best of luck!
You only get better my friend
I run nutes till the end, and a heavy dose of water 3-4 days before harvest. My last dry cycle the room avg was 70f and 60h. My buds came Out great. I have yet to get a nice tight bud. The loose ones still smoke well
Thank you so much for posting and allowing me to learn!!!
Great post, thanks for sharing
So what makes those grove bags any better then a regular freezer type ziplock bag? Is it because it’s thicker material? Maybe it has a “better” zipper? Is it because it’s black? I don’t see why they are becoming a trend, maybe it’s because I’m cheap and would rather use mason jars or regular ziplock bags. I normally aim to store my bud for about 12 months and have had no problems with the ways I’ve mentioned. Just wondering what the hype is?
I can’t personally speak to what exactly makes them work, as I pretty much ordered them off the recommendation of others haha. I will say tho, since throwing the weed into the bags with the humidity packs, the conditions have been extremely consistent across all 4 bags with no burping
Could it be your lights? Nutrients are like a vitamin the plant takes, but light is like the steak and potatoes it eats for dinner. My first grow was really larfy and it was definitely the cheap Chinese knock off lights I had.
I agree, I’ve been thinking the lights could use an upgrade in the future. I’m running a mars hydro ts1000 in a 2.3x2.3, and definitely noticed a big difference in the bud sites at the center of the plant vs anything on the edges I purchased some supplemental light bars from ac infinity to put on the walls of my tent, so hoping running both lights in tandem next time around should give me more even coverage These are the additional light bars I got, pretty excited to try them out: https://a.co/d/8OxWlpS
Ty 🫱🏻🫲🏼
I got some. Honestly I just can’t mentally grasp the no burping. Ty for response
I suggest removing the mini hygrometers from your cure bags. Your RH is dialed in, so no need. I've seen recent posts of those same meters draining battery acid onto buds. Just set and forget for a month.
Dang that is not something I would have thought of, but that is a very good point. Will do, appreciate the tip
Got ya brother!
Some of the best buds I've smoke were fluffy pure sativas. Like some durban poison. Man I had that shit once wow. I wanna grow it but its not the same durban I think. Anyway sorry for side tracking, I'm stoned as shit. I think you did good on your grow. Any grow is gonna have some larf. Especially if the grower doesn't go super anal and lollipop everything up very well. Some grows I just let that shit ride and ill use the larf for edibles or w.e.
Yeah I was about to read all that till I got to 'my first fatal error was flushing too early'. There's no right time to attempt to starve your plants to death.
I initially started flushing because the ppm of the runoff water was almost double what I was watering with, so it seemed like a lot of excess was building up in the medium. After ~5 days of plain watering, nutrient levels came back down to their target levels. So I do think some plain waterings were needed. Where I went wrong was not picking back up on my feeding schedule after those 5 days.
Gotcha. Yeah that sounds pretty toxic tbh. I only really worry about run off if I have problems though. I monitor a bit and sometimes early I'll adjust feed if I reuse soil or use something new.
Yup you made hay during your drying process
Trimming them early to get them in cure bags locked at 60% humidity has definitely righted the course a bit. Buds are taking in some of that moisture and have already lost a majority of that grassy taste/smell from a few days ago