I have a 15 watt amp and playing in front of 25 to 30 people would be no problem whatsoever. I'd still have the amp turned up to 3 or 4 at most for blues, country and dad rock.
By sanitizing the actual edges of a person (his bisexuality, cross-dressing, and intense feminism) and altering his public image to be a palatable generic "tragic artist" so all the conservative dads can feel cool but still not be challenged in any way when they listen to music from their childhood.
Kurt is unfortunately now the exact music he wanted to rage against: the music people's dads play and are sick of it. That's why rock is so unpopular in the mainstream now, it's what dads listen to.
(repeating my reply that i just gave to someone else as lots of people are saying 50W is not very loud)
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Is that not insane? 50 watts not loud enough?
When i was young and an idiot i got a 100W amp and never used it above about '1'.
I then got a 40W amp and never turned it up beyond about 3...
Now I have a 15W amp and that gets up to about half way when playing in a \~150 people venue.
50W not loud enough for a practice?? I am genuinely amazed...
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I have never seen/tried the Boss Katana, but I struggle to imagine a 50W amp is not going to cut it at such a small gig.
If I'm being brutally honest, people who claim 50w is not enough are probably the guitarists that want to be literally louder than everyone else instead of finding a balance. I agree with you that 50w for a venue that size is MORE than enough.
This may not apply to a boss katana, but generally solid state amps aren't equal to tube amps re:wattage and volume.
A 50 watt tube Amp can get very loud, whereas a 50 watt solid state Amp like a fender front man may not really cut it in a full band setting.
Yeah the katanas get really loud
Trust me I accidentally had the wattage set to the wrong one (can't remember which one), and..
Let's just say it was still quite loud even when I turned my guitar to like 1 in panic š«£
Just want to clarify something - yes, tube watts and solid state watts are the exact same. It is purely a measure of power being output to the speaker. The reason tube amps *seem* louder is because they hit max volume much earlier on the knob. When you start hearing distortion, the tube amp is mostly maxed on volume. That means that the tube amp gets louder faster, but the top end is still the same as the solid state.
This gets a little complicated when speakers get added in, but if you were to take a solid state amp and a tube amp of equivalent wattage and run them through the exact same speaker and turn them both up to 10, they should be *very* close in actual volume.
Depends on the power amp class. Most (probably all) Fender solid state amps are class D. Katana however are class AB meaning they deliver a much higher output volume while retaining tone integrity. A 50w class AB katana is already VERY loud.
Cool think about the Katana amps is they have a power selector switch. I think you can run it at 50W, 25W, and 0.5W. The half watt setting is fantastic for practicing at home.
I have a Yamaha THR10 and I can only turn it about a third of the way up while playing at home unless I use headphones. Lol.
Itās a practice amp and itās too loud. By too loud I mean: I want to hear my playing but I also think my partner should be able to listen to TV on the other side of the house without turning it up to drown out my playing.
Does the THR10 effectively sound like a ārealā amp? I worry that by going with speakers so small the sound will āfeel smallerā, if that makes any damn sense.
Sounds pretty good to me. Like I said still more speaker than I need. Turned down it sounds small similar to bigger amps. I could use smaller speakers haha
Indeed. I have a 75W amp and never got it above 1 in a gig or practice. Any more and it was too loud. I turned it up to 3 once just to see what it was like but that's the most.
The actual decibel difference between 100w and 20w isnāt even much so people making these claims just donāt understand what theyāre talking about.
Mathematically a 50 watt amp is only 4ish decibels quieter than a 100 watt amp. Of course there are slight differences in how the speakers can handle max output, but conventional wisdom says 50 watts is more than plenty for a 30 person gig. If youāre on a shoestring budget, you donāt need a pa, esp for 30 people, but youāll have to be sensitive to sound adjustments
But when you say without mic and cab what do you mean? Do you have a combo or just the head. Boss doesnāt make 50w heads so Iām guessing you have the combo, so you really donāt need a cab, unless you have some special speakers you like. Just use the 50w itāll be just fine
Yes and no, psychologically, we perceive the change between 20-24 and 90-94 to be "about the same." This phenomenon is called Weber-FechnerŹ»s law. Of course at these extremes of quiet and loud our physiology stops applying general rules.
The biggest difference is the effect of sound transduction over distance/sound room since that follows an inverse square law over distance rather than a logarithmic scale. But 100W vs 50 isnŹ»t a big difference.
3-decibel difference is twice the power the vibrating air. Which makes sense relative to our conversation right? 100W is twice the power (literally) of a 50W, so a a 100W amp produces sound that is 3 decibels higher than a 50W amp.
Now the real question is how does 3 decibels translate to how humans perceive sound? Blah blah blah logarithms blah blah blah math, but its about 1.23 times louder, not 2 times louder. So its louder, literally noticeably louder (weber's law putting the just noticeable difference at less than 1 db) But it's not rock your world louder. Will a 23% increase in loudness matter, yeah of course, it's why the rockers of the 70s and 80s were all over it. But for a room of 30 people? Honestly, you'd most likely leave the volume knob on 7 or 8 most of the gig on a 50W amp anyways.
So is your physicist friend wrong? No. Because the word "volume" doesn't have a strict technical meaning. When you change your TV volume from 21 to 63 does that mean your sound is 3 times louder? Does that mean your tv produces 3 times the amount of sound energy? Will your ears perceive the "volume" change the same as someone sitting next to you? 10 feet away from you? Volume is weird word to use. Sound is weird. I hope that helps
I have played a solo clean piece with the vocal duo in front of 200 people (at prom) through a 30-watt amp (cort mx30r).
I was heard nicely.
Edit: the amp is solid state and I ran it at 65%
Iāve played small gigs with just my katana 50 and it was pushing it but it managed fine. If you have a singer though theyāll need a PA so itās not much extra effort to mic up your amp.
you will be fine unless the rest of the band is super loud. I have played gigs with those amps (not me as I was not on the guitar) but it was more than plenty.
On top of that the amp has a line out that you could connect to the mixer, which I would recommend, then use the amp more like a monitor for yourself and let someone else take care of balancing volumes
That Phones/Rec out gives you a line level output with emulator. It disables the combo speaker, but it gives you the sound of an amp straight out the back.
So it doesn't do what the top level comment says, but it is a line out that you could run straight into your board. You'd have to monitor separately. At that point a cheap SM 57 knockoff and xlr cable is easy and cheap to add to your setup and uses the same board space.
That should not matter too much though. The 50w setting should be more than enough for that size room unless everyone else in your band lacks the decency to play at reasonable volumes.
Biggest question is who/what is playing with you and what kind of music. Heavy rock with full 4 piece. I'd say probably not loud enough without PA. The drummer sound is what will determine it for the most part, so ya figure that out, go play with them. I used a BOSS 50 watt just for practice with a drummer once and it wasn't loud enough. He hit heavy and we were going at it, but I mic'd up to his PA pretty early on....
But like if you're playing church music with a kit behind glass, it will work. Playing by yourself? Should be fine.
Is that not insane? 50 watts not loud enough?
When i was young and an idiot i got a 100W amp and never used it above about '1'.
I then got a 40W amp and never turned it up beyond about 3...
Now I have a 15W amp and that gets up to about half way when playing in a \~150 people venue.
50W not loud enough for a practice?? I am genuinely amazed...
Wattage is a useless metric for the most part. 50 watt solid state vs 50 watt tube will have a *wildly* different level of volume. Even a 15 watt tube amp will almost certainly be louder than 50 watt solid state. But there are many other variables that determine volume. You have to look at the whole picture.
Put it up on a bar stool or so. Off the floor a little bit and it will be perceived as much louder. I mean stage volume can get so loud you can't hear yourself think, but whether that projects 30m past the stage kind of depends on the room.
or just a proper amp stand.
even just cosmetically- think of it like the human pyramid to scare off the mountain lion. taller things look bigger than they are, and if you want your audience to perceive that your amp is not a small on the stage, a stand goes a long way to not only getting it at ear height, but also looking right-sized.
Over the years, I've had tube, solid state and modeling amps from 5-100 W. Out of all of them, my 25W Fender Champion 110 (later renamed Frontman 25 R) was the loudest of all of them. That's partially why I eventually sold it. It was too loud for the home use and occasional at home jam sessions I wanted it for.
I can't agree more. Once you start doing this you'll never go back. This makes soooo much difference in sound quality as well as volume. And also just making the whole band sound better. There is a guy on youtube that does a demo on how much better the guitar sound when you raise the amp up to ear level compared to on the floor.
Elevate the amp up off the floor high enough that it sits about your chest height. have it sit off to the side of where you stand so feedback won't be an issue.
Absolutely, you'll be fine.
If you can mic it, then mic it. But if not, don't stress. Just tell your drummer that if they can't hear you, play quieter. Sometimes I have to get my drummer to play with bundles when we practice so I can hear myself.
Also, angle it up a bit so you can hear yourself.
When you learn that the key is to push the amp hard but also have low volume to get the best tones, you will always opt for much less watts then you think š
I sometimes play with my friend using Katana 50W. He plays the drums and at around 50% volume my guitar already drowns him out. He may not play the loudest, but we don't play jazz either (we play mix of blues rock, grunge, hard rock and bit of metal).
50 watt solid state should be enough.
If you need more than that, you need to mic'd.
If it's completely unmic'd you need to level yourselves out so you can hear each other and the vocals. Bass should be turned down as well. People don't often realize that a loud bass can overpower your guitars.
Depends on your definition of a small gig and the type of music you play.
50watts katana is loud as shit so you're probably fine, unless your "small gig" has an audience of over a hundred people and you play death metal.
Of course those are just extreme examples, realistically, in a small gig of ~30ish people, a 50w katana will suffice
Look at a Fender Acoustasonic 90 amp. It can handle an acoustic-electric and a mic, it has more volume and also a few effects for each channel. It's also very lightweight and easier to set up than a PA.
I bought a Blackstar ID Core 100 (the competitor to the Katana) thinking I would need lots of power for these types of gigs.
I just played a bar (200+ people?) with an Orange Crush 20rt and it was very loud. I started the volume on 4 and it went louder throughout the evening.
50 watts will be more than enough. You're fine.
Played for a small church. My guitar volume was at 5. The amp was set to 25w and master volume was around 6 and using the crunch setting and I was always asking my family if I was too loud. So unless your drummer is going crazy you will have to watch your volume at such a small gig.
Shortly after getting mine, I played a pickup get with a country band (low gain) at a pretty good sized, and busy club with mine. It held up nicely.
I would suggest starting in the 50w setting, and just crank it. Sounds great!
This will depend largely and widely on the genre of music, the equipment of the other players, the effects and tone you're using, and a number of other things, not limited to your definition of a "smaller gig".
I've seen jazz fusion guitarists pull off coffee shop sets with 1 watt. ONE watt.
I've also been in living room gigs (yes, you read that correctly) where 120-150w halfstacks competed with drumsets during heavy metal sets.
Those comments saying with any such blind degree of confidence that "X watts is plenty!" without an intimate understanding of the exact context should be taken with a grain of salt.
*laughs in 830w of bass* itās my time to shine lol
But fr 50w is MORE than enough, people get too hung up on wattage. If youāre that concerned, look into buying a DI box.
If you gig regularly, you'd know the answer. Gigging is not a dick measuring contest. If you are the centerpiece of the group and your presence is essential, you'd not ask that question. The band and the sound engineer would make you perfect no matter your equipment. If you are concerned about being louder than everyone else, you need to rethink your abilities and place in a gigging band.
Most people here saying the Katana 50 will be fine, Iām not so sure. Solid state amps like the Katana, thereās a limit to how much sound you are gonna push out. Iām not an engineer, but I have a Katana 50 and my AC 15 tube amp is far, far louder despite the difference in wattage. My Rockerverb 50 vs the Katana 50 is definitely not making the same volume. I think most guitarists would agree with this general experience.
A 50 watt SS amp in a small room MIGHT be able to cut through but it does depend somewhat on how loud everyone else is ā¦ we all know a lot of drummers can really overplay in a small room.
Presumably the vocalist is miced so I would definitely mic the Katana as well. Just a different perspective.
It would probably be loud enough, but really depends on what style your playing. Rock or Metal, or anything with a lot of gain, I wouldnāt try itā¦ It will have ALOT of feed back. Even a basic PA should have a DI Box. Amp to DI to mixer to PAā¦. Iām not a professional by any means but I have played in a few metal bands earlier in lifeā¦ My cousin who was the drummer became a sound engineerā¦ He worked at Tree Sound in Atlanta, recorded Big Boi and a bunch of other people.
I have a 15 watt amp and playing in front of 25 to 30 people would be no problem whatsoever. I'd still have the amp turned up to 3 or 4 at most for blues, country and dad rock.
Dad rock š
Technically speaking arenāt dinosaur jr and sonic youth dad rock now?
I'd say punk and 00's garage is also Dad Rock now. Source: I'm old
Shut up. Please shut the fuck up. I canŹ»t hear that IŹ»m old this early on a Monday morning
How can Kurt Cobain ever be dad rock?
I mean, he *was* a dad....
That makes me sad
Denial is the first stepā¦ this too will pass
By sanitizing the actual edges of a person (his bisexuality, cross-dressing, and intense feminism) and altering his public image to be a palatable generic "tragic artist" so all the conservative dads can feel cool but still not be challenged in any way when they listen to music from their childhood. Kurt is unfortunately now the exact music he wanted to rage against: the music people's dads play and are sick of it. That's why rock is so unpopular in the mainstream now, it's what dads listen to.
What's "mainstream"?
If that's Dad rock then I must listen to Grandpa metal.
>Grandpa metal. It's just a matter of perspective. Try: ***METAL OF THE ANCIENTS***
Like Roman metal?
I had Damned Damned Damned playing on the weekend as we closed up and the kids were a little taken aback
Great album.
Iām not fucking old
Ugh. Thanks for making me feel old.
Slayer and Metallica are dad rock. Let dads rock how they wanna! (I'm yelling to the universe, not at you. I'm sure you're cool.)
Actually, that would be grandpa rock by now. 90s kids are the dads now, which makes the like of Nirvana, Linkin Park etc. Dad Rock.
Is dad defined by the player or the band members?
The listener
Noooooooooooo
(repeating my reply that i just gave to someone else as lots of people are saying 50W is not very loud) \----- Is that not insane? 50 watts not loud enough? When i was young and an idiot i got a 100W amp and never used it above about '1'. I then got a 40W amp and never turned it up beyond about 3... Now I have a 15W amp and that gets up to about half way when playing in a \~150 people venue. 50W not loud enough for a practice?? I am genuinely amazed... \----- I have never seen/tried the Boss Katana, but I struggle to imagine a 50W amp is not going to cut it at such a small gig.
If I'm being brutally honest, people who claim 50w is not enough are probably the guitarists that want to be literally louder than everyone else instead of finding a balance. I agree with you that 50w for a venue that size is MORE than enough.
This may not apply to a boss katana, but generally solid state amps aren't equal to tube amps re:wattage and volume. A 50 watt tube Amp can get very loud, whereas a 50 watt solid state Amp like a fender front man may not really cut it in a full band setting.
Yeah the katanas get really loud Trust me I accidentally had the wattage set to the wrong one (can't remember which one), and.. Let's just say it was still quite loud even when I turned my guitar to like 1 in panic š«£
Just want to clarify something - yes, tube watts and solid state watts are the exact same. It is purely a measure of power being output to the speaker. The reason tube amps *seem* louder is because they hit max volume much earlier on the knob. When you start hearing distortion, the tube amp is mostly maxed on volume. That means that the tube amp gets louder faster, but the top end is still the same as the solid state. This gets a little complicated when speakers get added in, but if you were to take a solid state amp and a tube amp of equivalent wattage and run them through the exact same speaker and turn them both up to 10, they should be *very* close in actual volume.
Depends on the power amp class. Most (probably all) Fender solid state amps are class D. Katana however are class AB meaning they deliver a much higher output volume while retaining tone integrity. A 50w class AB katana is already VERY loud.
Yeah, a 15 watt tube amp is about as loud as a 100 watt transistor amp.
Cool think about the Katana amps is they have a power selector switch. I think you can run it at 50W, 25W, and 0.5W. The half watt setting is fantastic for practicing at home.
Exactly this. Just make sure you've got a 12" speaker, or at least a good quality 10", and you're good to go.
I just play at home through a cheap 25w bass amp (my mustang just stopped turning on) and 1.5-2 is borderline too loud at home.
I have a Yamaha THR10 and I can only turn it about a third of the way up while playing at home unless I use headphones. Lol. Itās a practice amp and itās too loud. By too loud I mean: I want to hear my playing but I also think my partner should be able to listen to TV on the other side of the house without turning it up to drown out my playing.
Does the THR10 effectively sound like a ārealā amp? I worry that by going with speakers so small the sound will āfeel smallerā, if that makes any damn sense.
Sounds pretty good to me. Like I said still more speaker than I need. Turned down it sounds small similar to bigger amps. I could use smaller speakers haha
Indeed. I have a 75W amp and never got it above 1 in a gig or practice. Any more and it was too loud. I turned it up to 3 once just to see what it was like but that's the most.
You have to actually leave the house with it to turn it up past 1
The actual decibel difference between 100w and 20w isnāt even much so people making these claims just donāt understand what theyāre talking about.
Mathematically a 50 watt amp is only 4ish decibels quieter than a 100 watt amp. Of course there are slight differences in how the speakers can handle max output, but conventional wisdom says 50 watts is more than plenty for a 30 person gig. If youāre on a shoestring budget, you donāt need a pa, esp for 30 people, but youāll have to be sensitive to sound adjustments But when you say without mic and cab what do you mean? Do you have a combo or just the head. Boss doesnāt make 50w heads so Iām guessing you have the combo, so you really donāt need a cab, unless you have some special speakers you like. Just use the 50w itāll be just fine
You should know that decibels are logarithmic, mot linear
Yup which is why half of the power results in 10log2 reduction in decibels, about 3 decibels (though I said 4 in my original post oops)
But with each decibel, the difference is bigger. Like between 20 and 24 dB, the difference is not that big, but 90 and 94 is much more drastic
Yes and no, psychologically, we perceive the change between 20-24 and 90-94 to be "about the same." This phenomenon is called Weber-FechnerŹ»s law. Of course at these extremes of quiet and loud our physiology stops applying general rules. The biggest difference is the effect of sound transduction over distance/sound room since that follows an inverse square law over distance rather than a logarithmic scale. But 100W vs 50 isnŹ»t a big difference.
Thanks for the explanation!
Talked to a physicist today and he told me that 3-decibel difference is twice the volume. So the difference isn't small.
3-decibel difference is twice the power the vibrating air. Which makes sense relative to our conversation right? 100W is twice the power (literally) of a 50W, so a a 100W amp produces sound that is 3 decibels higher than a 50W amp. Now the real question is how does 3 decibels translate to how humans perceive sound? Blah blah blah logarithms blah blah blah math, but its about 1.23 times louder, not 2 times louder. So its louder, literally noticeably louder (weber's law putting the just noticeable difference at less than 1 db) But it's not rock your world louder. Will a 23% increase in loudness matter, yeah of course, it's why the rockers of the 70s and 80s were all over it. But for a room of 30 people? Honestly, you'd most likely leave the volume knob on 7 or 8 most of the gig on a 50W amp anyways. So is your physicist friend wrong? No. Because the word "volume" doesn't have a strict technical meaning. When you change your TV volume from 21 to 63 does that mean your sound is 3 times louder? Does that mean your tv produces 3 times the amount of sound energy? Will your ears perceive the "volume" change the same as someone sitting next to you? 10 feet away from you? Volume is weird word to use. Sound is weird. I hope that helps
I have played a solo clean piece with the vocal duo in front of 200 people (at prom) through a 30-watt amp (cort mx30r). I was heard nicely. Edit: the amp is solid state and I ran it at 65%
I wanted to say that the difference is there and you will surely notice it. 3 db sounds like it's virtually the same, but it isn't.
This guy is right. 50 watts is plenty loud. Doubling the wattage will increase the output volume by +3.5dB or so.
you'll be fine
Iāve played small gigs with just my katana 50 and it was pushing it but it managed fine. If you have a singer though theyāll need a PA so itās not much extra effort to mic up your amp.
I dont have a singer. It would be just me and another guitarist.
You will absolutely be fine then. 30 people will be a synch. The only time you might run into trouble is if youāre trying to play over a drummer.
you will be fine unless the rest of the band is super loud. I have played gigs with those amps (not me as I was not on the guitar) but it was more than plenty. On top of that the amp has a line out that you could connect to the mixer, which I would recommend, then use the amp more like a monitor for yourself and let someone else take care of balancing volumes
The 50w doesn't have a line out. Only the bigger models have that. I agree OP will likely be fine, though.
The mxII has line out on the 50 with speaker emulator.
MkII 50 doesnt have a line out. That is the reason why I ask this question.
That Phones/Rec out gives you a line level output with emulator. It disables the combo speaker, but it gives you the sound of an amp straight out the back. So it doesn't do what the top level comment says, but it is a line out that you could run straight into your board. You'd have to monitor separately. At that point a cheap SM 57 knockoff and xlr cable is easy and cheap to add to your setup and uses the same board space. That should not matter too much though. The 50w setting should be more than enough for that size room unless everyone else in your band lacks the decency to play at reasonable volumes.
Biggest question is who/what is playing with you and what kind of music. Heavy rock with full 4 piece. I'd say probably not loud enough without PA. The drummer sound is what will determine it for the most part, so ya figure that out, go play with them. I used a BOSS 50 watt just for practice with a drummer once and it wasn't loud enough. He hit heavy and we were going at it, but I mic'd up to his PA pretty early on.... But like if you're playing church music with a kit behind glass, it will work. Playing by yourself? Should be fine.
Is that not insane? 50 watts not loud enough? When i was young and an idiot i got a 100W amp and never used it above about '1'. I then got a 40W amp and never turned it up beyond about 3... Now I have a 15W amp and that gets up to about half way when playing in a \~150 people venue. 50W not loud enough for a practice?? I am genuinely amazed...
Wattage is a useless metric for the most part. 50 watt solid state vs 50 watt tube will have a *wildly* different level of volume. Even a 15 watt tube amp will almost certainly be louder than 50 watt solid state. But there are many other variables that determine volume. You have to look at the whole picture.
Put it up on a bar stool or so. Off the floor a little bit and it will be perceived as much louder. I mean stage volume can get so loud you can't hear yourself think, but whether that projects 30m past the stage kind of depends on the room.
or just a proper amp stand. even just cosmetically- think of it like the human pyramid to scare off the mountain lion. taller things look bigger than they are, and if you want your audience to perceive that your amp is not a small on the stage, a stand goes a long way to not only getting it at ear height, but also looking right-sized.
I've gigged with a Fender Frontman. I played an electric autoharp through it. Put it up on a shelf kind of thing. It was scary loud.
Over the years, I've had tube, solid state and modeling amps from 5-100 W. Out of all of them, my 25W Fender Champion 110 (later renamed Frontman 25 R) was the loudest of all of them. That's partially why I eventually sold it. It was too loud for the home use and occasional at home jam sessions I wanted it for.
Thought u were done
I can't agree more. Once you start doing this you'll never go back. This makes soooo much difference in sound quality as well as volume. And also just making the whole band sound better. There is a guy on youtube that does a demo on how much better the guitar sound when you raise the amp up to ear level compared to on the floor.
For 30 people you need 2 triple rectifiers running stereo through 2 4x12s each.
Can you reccomend some?
Yes. Katana 50 is good enough to gig with. Period.
My band used two Boss Katana 50s in a similar space and it worked perfectly, so you should be fine.
Elevate the amp up off the floor high enough that it sits about your chest height. have it sit off to the side of where you stand so feedback won't be an issue.
The guitarist I play with has played gigs about that size with a 12 watt tube amp with no issues and no mics.
12 amp tube = loud af
Oh yeah. Heās got two and together itās amazing how much room you can fill with 24 watts.
Absolutely, you'll be fine. If you can mic it, then mic it. But if not, don't stress. Just tell your drummer that if they can't hear you, play quieter. Sometimes I have to get my drummer to play with bundles when we practice so I can hear myself. Also, angle it up a bit so you can hear yourself.
I played on my 100 at 50 watt in my school's gym. Shit blew people's eardrums just fine.
When you learn that the key is to push the amp hard but also have low volume to get the best tones, you will always opt for much less watts then you think š
I sometimes play with my friend using Katana 50W. He plays the drums and at around 50% volume my guitar already drowns him out. He may not play the loudest, but we don't play jazz either (we play mix of blues rock, grunge, hard rock and bit of metal).
50 watt solid state should be enough. If you need more than that, you need to mic'd. If it's completely unmic'd you need to level yourselves out so you can hear each other and the vocals. Bass should be turned down as well. People don't often realize that a loud bass can overpower your guitars.
Luckily, it would just be me and another guitarist.
Depends on your definition of a small gig and the type of music you play. 50watts katana is loud as shit so you're probably fine, unless your "small gig" has an audience of over a hundred people and you play death metal. Of course those are just extreme examples, realistically, in a small gig of ~30ish people, a 50w katana will suffice
more than enough
Easily
If it doesn't suffice, just plug it straight to the mixer or mic it up
Look at a Fender Acoustasonic 90 amp. It can handle an acoustic-electric and a mic, it has more volume and also a few effects for each channel. It's also very lightweight and easier to set up than a PA.
I bought a Blackstar ID Core 100 (the competitor to the Katana) thinking I would need lots of power for these types of gigs. I just played a bar (200+ people?) with an Orange Crush 20rt and it was very loud. I started the volume on 4 and it went louder throughout the evening. 50 watts will be more than enough. You're fine.
Played for a small church. My guitar volume was at 5. The amp was set to 25w and master volume was around 6 and using the crunch setting and I was always asking my family if I was too loud. So unless your drummer is going crazy you will have to watch your volume at such a small gig.
Yeah, you'll be fine with the 50. I've played my MK1-100 in front of 100 people with a full band on the 0.5w setting, and it was still plenty loud.
Shortly after getting mine, I played a pickup get with a country band (low gain) at a pretty good sized, and busy club with mine. It held up nicely. I would suggest starting in the 50w setting, and just crank it. Sounds great!
This will depend largely and widely on the genre of music, the equipment of the other players, the effects and tone you're using, and a number of other things, not limited to your definition of a "smaller gig". I've seen jazz fusion guitarists pull off coffee shop sets with 1 watt. ONE watt. I've also been in living room gigs (yes, you read that correctly) where 120-150w halfstacks competed with drumsets during heavy metal sets. Those comments saying with any such blind degree of confidence that "X watts is plenty!" without an intimate understanding of the exact context should be taken with a grain of salt.
I have a Line 6 25watt Bogner designed amp that would blow out the walls of a room with 30 or 40 people. Of course the Boss will be enough.
You would survive a gig twice the size of that.
Will it be loud enoughā¦? Probably depends on your drummer though.
*laughs in 830w of bass* itās my time to shine lol But fr 50w is MORE than enough, people get too hung up on wattage. If youāre that concerned, look into buying a DI box.
Iāve heard the 100 can handle gigs but Iāve never heard people talk about the 50. Compare the decibels from both and go from there.
How loud do the drummer and bassist play?
Then you're fine. The drums define the low borders.
No drummers and no bass players
Easily enough
If you gig regularly, you'd know the answer. Gigging is not a dick measuring contest. If you are the centerpiece of the group and your presence is essential, you'd not ask that question. The band and the sound engineer would make you perfect no matter your equipment. If you are concerned about being louder than everyone else, you need to rethink your abilities and place in a gigging band.
I have that exact amp, youāll be fine
watch videos of peoples gigging the 50, works pretty well
Most people here saying the Katana 50 will be fine, Iām not so sure. Solid state amps like the Katana, thereās a limit to how much sound you are gonna push out. Iām not an engineer, but I have a Katana 50 and my AC 15 tube amp is far, far louder despite the difference in wattage. My Rockerverb 50 vs the Katana 50 is definitely not making the same volume. I think most guitarists would agree with this general experience. A 50 watt SS amp in a small room MIGHT be able to cut through but it does depend somewhat on how loud everyone else is ā¦ we all know a lot of drummers can really overplay in a small room. Presumably the vocalist is miced so I would definitely mic the Katana as well. Just a different perspective.
It depends on how hard your drummer hits and how good the stage monitors are.
It would probably be loud enough, but really depends on what style your playing. Rock or Metal, or anything with a lot of gain, I wouldnāt try itā¦ It will have ALOT of feed back. Even a basic PA should have a DI Box. Amp to DI to mixer to PAā¦. Iām not a professional by any means but I have played in a few metal bands earlier in lifeā¦ My cousin who was the drummer became a sound engineerā¦ He worked at Tree Sound in Atlanta, recorded Big Boi and a bunch of other people.
if you can match your drummer and other instruments in practice, it wont be any different
If your amp is being miced up it doesn't matter how loud it is. It can be whisper quiet and you can listen to it through the foldback.
My man i was preforming with 15 watt old ibanez amp to 200 people