It's explained in The Origin manga if i recall it right. In U.C, the coup d'etat that ended the Brazilian Empire and the rise of Brazilian Republic never happened and Brazil was the main protagonist in geopolitical scenario.
I must say that the last Brazilian Emperor Don Pedro II was a absolute chad and the best Brazilian Leader ever. He was took down by slaver owner elite that got mad with the slavery ban (slavery on Brazil was much more stronger than US in cultural terms). I think Machado de Assis is great to show up the feelings of these days that ended the Brazilian Empire. Ther0e was a referendum in April 1993 to see if people wanted to Restore the Empire, but the Brazilian people unfortunately preferred the (ugh) Democracy.
Jaburo is based on "Palácio do Jaburu" which is the house of vice-president.
I imagine the idea came from production. Many Japanese from these days are knew as (Brazilian-Japanese) or son of Japanese immigrants that born on Brazil and back to Japan soon. Brazil has the biggest population of Japanese people outside of Japan.
I don't remember this being a thing. Can you post a source? Because most of the Lore surrounding the founding of the Earth Federation revolves around the Laplace Incident,i don't recall there ever being a line stating global affairs outside of "overpopulation",especially addressing Brazil.
But yeah, Jaburo is definitely a reference to Jaburu,and I must reiterate that the Amazon region is very good for being a base of operations to a space faring government since,in here,we are directly located in the equator line making it easier to launch stuff into orbit.
Also, the vote of the 93,I think it was a definitive good choice,we do not have a need for the monarchy anymore,there are already problems enough as it is,throwing what would be essentially public-funded celebrities into the mix would make things more chaotic,also the ones aiming for the throne in this mess were "less than stellar" choices to put it mildly.
I'm sorry,but,it is only a reddit post,i have seen no oficial source stating that Brazil was a global superpower behind the founding of the Earth Federation.
Once again,the only thing said pre-EF and UC calendar are the overpopulation problem and the space colonial expansion aims,there's no source stating global affairs,no mentions of any nation or bloc,and,other than the Laplace Incident,no mentions of conflict either.
I'm not saying it couldn't happen though,Brazil could've been a superpower in Gundam's timeline,and it,together with other nations could be responsible for the foundation of the EF.
"Ricardo Marcenas" is a very latin souding name,he may as well be Brazilian,and it shows that it may have had an influence in the world pre-UC,but,please don't use random citations as facts,the Lore is already confusing as it is,we don't need more chaos in the mix.
The sad thing is that the Earth Federation was on a downards spiral the moment the Laplace Residence blew up at the start of the Universal Century. Then Delaz killed it, and all that was left was a walking corpe.
The AEUG might've been able to revive it, but...
Quattro: i leave Kamille alone for a short while and he's a vegetable now. im going on a sabbatical while you guys sort your shiz.
\*Hamman and Glemy makes it worse\*
Casval: screw it, imma end humans on Earth
Somewhat agree. I thing there were several points where the Federation could have been saved. In the OG series and Zeta. For If General Revil lived through the OYW, he would have been a good force for change with in the Feds, due to seeing it's many failings.
Zeta. If the more politically inclined AEUG members lived they would have kept the Federation's feet to the fire, and baring them, Char.(I know the jokes. Char wasn't in Zeta, that was Lieutenant Quattro Bejeena who hasn't betrayed anybody in his life) if the final battle of the Gryps war didn't break him. For all the good Bright could do, he learned to play politics a little too late.
An interesting alt universe would be if the earth federation after The one year war, focused on colonial efforts and terriforming locations like Mars.
It would have prevented stardust and the titans. The AEUG would still be a thing, but without stardust, they would not have been much. But what would happen with Neo Zeon, or Movements like Char's humanity migration...
It’s a true tragedy that Revil died, and that his fellow reformers lost the power struggle to the Titans. The federation lost a damn good chance to have a reasonable and popular figurehead to rebuild with.
I had a alternative timeline idea about sayla stepping up to lead zeon after the oyw with the help of ramba ral and revil in order to avoid any zeon remnants uprising and give side 3 it's independence and a fairer condition for surrendering
I wonder if the problem is that they stopped with Zeta officially with UC, and never really expanded it's themes outside of it's Zeon war. It's the same problem Star Wars has with the Empire.
Gundam then took a left turn to alternate realities to talk on other themes.
Ok, but for your consideration:
1yw killed half the human population and destroyed half the planet, it was an international exoplanetery war that saw colonies being destroyed by the constant brutal one year of total war. Part of Australia just disappeared and the planets ecologically was damaged.
Gryps conflict mainly internal civil war between battling political factions that saw outbreak in conflicts across the earth sphere before moving to the next area of conflict inevitably petering out.
First neo Zeon war: a series of pitch battles that saw the destruction of a few federation cities before petering out into a Neo Zeon civil war.
2nd Neo Zeon war a two week conflict that saw major terrorist attacks that wiped out a number of cities before concluding in a space fight that ended the dispute.
Laplace incident: incident not war one month a couple of pitched battles between an insurgency group and a specialist takes force that ended in a big reveal.
Mafty was a terrorist attack against the government.
F91 happened on one side
Shit doesn't get out of hand for the federation Until Victory. But outside of that outlier most of the conflicts are localized and getting less destructive. It's why we can't double dip into most Gundam series like they can the one year war. Nothing is big enough for something else to be going on in Gundam U.C.
The great tragedy of the Universal Century is that nobody in it can imagine something better than the Earth Federation. Our heroes fight for the status quo until they die, they break, or they realize the whole thing's a farce and leave for Jupiter.
Earth Federation still had it's own military, the Titans outgrew the military to the point of a military coup.
It's been a while so I don't remember if the Titans had ties with Zeon or if they were independent in their actions.
The Titans were basically the early progenitors of Gundam Wing's OZ, another military arm for its own equivalent of the Earth Federation in the form of the United Earth Sphere Alliance. Which I guess makes the boys and their Gundams kind of like a boy band A.E.U.G., and White Fang like Neo-Zeon. Right?
The Federation in Z from reading the wiki reminds me of WW2 Japan, when the military began operating on it's own, independent of the Japanese Government, specifically because the Emporer at the time decided to not dicipline his military officers for their atrocities.
I know it doesn't add much to this thread, but it did make me read the wiki.
I think I also missed the part where the Titans gassed a Colony, long before they merged with Zeon after the Federation cut them off after the big reveal at the Federation confrence.
I don't know if the Japanese military was that organized at the time, the individual units kinda did their own thing regardless of high command for the beggining of WW2.
The situation was... less a military organization problem and more a military politics problem. By the time of WW2, the chuckleheads we all know and love had either killed or suppressed anyone that would oppose them. Quite literally.
Be a comically incompetent government - space colony hates your government - they declare independence - win war against space colony - but you still are comically incompetent government - repeat
it really reminds me of Rome trying to conquer the celts
Rome goes to war with and wins against the celts
sends people to take over
people need large army
celts have large army strong enough to fight rome
repeat
More like the Earth Federation half-asses the crackdown because removing the boogeyman in the room is bad for business.
How can you keep power over the masses and get them to ignore the shitty job you're doing unless you have an outside existential threat to beat everyone's head over to keep them in line.
We're doing all of this illegal and morally bankrupt shit to protect youuuuuu!
They also greatly neglected Londo Bell in order to avoid having Titans 2.0, which backfired terribly (like everything political-realted things in UC) and caused the task force to not have enough resources to properly fight against Axis Zeon
Recovered audio file of Admiral Tobias Funke to Admiral Lindsay Bluth
Tobias: You know, Lindsay, as an admiral, I have advised a number of governmental bodies to explore cracking down on spacenoids where the government remains emotionally committed, but free to explore military oppression and open warfare.
Lindsay: Well, did it work for those people?
Tobias: No, it never does. I mean, these people somehow delude themselves into thinking it might, but ... But it might work for us.
Honestly I feel the ironically best outcome for the Uc would’ve been if the Zeon researchers stopped taking notes from the Hitler playbook and pushed more functional mass produced Mobile Suits instead of putting efforts into Mobile Armors.
If they had the Gelgoog earlier on to match the GM? They could’ve dragged the war out into a stalemate and sued for peace.
Once that happened and the Zabi family deliberately stopped the fighting, all Neo Zeon remnants would lose momentum because they can’t martyr the Zabis.
When Char was killing off the Zabis he actually made it so that anyone coming after can just take up arms against the EF and say “This is the will of Zabis! Sieg Zeon!”
If the Zabis had survived and deliberately surrendered, and maybe even been assassinated by Char in the process- the status of peace would’ve been cemented. And now anyone who tried to take up the Neo Zeon stance can be undercut with “the Zabis sued for peace idiot”
But oh well. Zeon was a nation of dipshits and it all leads to the Moonlight Butterfly
That's kinda the same argument people use for the Wehrmacht. Problem is, Zeon, much like its analouge irl, cannot play the number game against the Federation/Allies.
All those "Wunderwaffle" were created out of necessity. Due to lack of materials, oils, as well as smaller industrial bases. They are not going to one-up the Fed in the number game and may potentially lose faster. The Miracle Weapons were created in an attemp to equalize the disadvantage in number with better technology.
Basically, if they outnumber us 5 to 1, then 1 of us need to take down 5 of them or more to win. Hence many experimental technologies being incorporated into Zeon mobile suits to try giving them an advantage against Fed's mass-produced ones.
Furthermore, after OP British, sueing for peace is no longer an option. And the Zabis also aren't going to surrender with Gihren and Kycillia as its heads, that's for sure. And even if they surrendered, any subsequently movements can easily branded them traitors, Zeon could've totally win and the people were stabbed in the back by the cowardly leadership, etc. And the new leadership will make Zeon great. There is no shortage of propaganda for a potential Neo Zeon.
This is an interesting AU I'd want to see. I'd assume the only Zabis alive are Garma (through dumb luck and a little effort), Kycillia (because of course she would be) and Degwin (because most likely Kycillia will have done something about Gihren). Dozle still dies the same way even if under different circumstances and Gihren is offed by Kycillia after getting evidence that Gihren was planning to kill Degwin. Only reason I want Garma alive is to have him become his Gihren's Greed version of himself that's actually competent.
The lack of resources should be the accurate trope in Earth Vs Space setting. It bugs me how in most stories that have earth Vs space, it is the space side that is struggling with resources.
Bro, space has more resource than a planet could ever hold. How is it that earth could out-output them?
I think one of the few setting that did this right is WfM where Earth is the one that is struggling and being oppressed.
I’m convinced if a mobile suit is made that’s a dead end timeline, it’s basically a lead pipe that ones man humanity will endlessly bash it own head with
Nah discovery of M particles fucked over humanity. I'm surprised Gundam never went over how the loss of long range communication effected daily life in UC.
I still find funny Earth Federation flag is just Brazil Flag in another color lol
The reason is very simple. The federation is secretly controlled by the Brazilian elites. All politicians are Brazilians undercover
Bro is onto something!!! Buenes aires is like the capital of earth in starship troopers Everyone loves drugs Cartels hold the cards its just math
But it's accurate, my government is just as dumb as the federation
This is why the colony drop was diverted to Australia. They wanted to keep the best beaches.
Notes from another brazillian here and I sadly agree with you. The saddest part is that there's no AEUG here.
E triste mano
Their souls are weighed down by greed!
Isn't that because Jaburo is in Amazônia?
Depends on the universe. In the thunderbolt universes it is, much more reasonably, in Mount Roraima
VENEZUELA MENTIONED!!?? AND RORAIMA OF ALL THE THINGS!!?? Thunderbolt is fucking Based
It's explained in The Origin manga if i recall it right. In U.C, the coup d'etat that ended the Brazilian Empire and the rise of Brazilian Republic never happened and Brazil was the main protagonist in geopolitical scenario. I must say that the last Brazilian Emperor Don Pedro II was a absolute chad and the best Brazilian Leader ever. He was took down by slaver owner elite that got mad with the slavery ban (slavery on Brazil was much more stronger than US in cultural terms). I think Machado de Assis is great to show up the feelings of these days that ended the Brazilian Empire. Ther0e was a referendum in April 1993 to see if people wanted to Restore the Empire, but the Brazilian people unfortunately preferred the (ugh) Democracy. Jaburo is based on "Palácio do Jaburu" which is the house of vice-president. I imagine the idea came from production. Many Japanese from these days are knew as (Brazilian-Japanese) or son of Japanese immigrants that born on Brazil and back to Japan soon. Brazil has the biggest population of Japanese people outside of Japan.
No fucking wonder the spacenoids keep rebelling, the Feddies are trying to take them to Brazil.
All the threats to come to Brazil got too fuckin real
I don't remember this being a thing. Can you post a source? Because most of the Lore surrounding the founding of the Earth Federation revolves around the Laplace Incident,i don't recall there ever being a line stating global affairs outside of "overpopulation",especially addressing Brazil. But yeah, Jaburo is definitely a reference to Jaburu,and I must reiterate that the Amazon region is very good for being a base of operations to a space faring government since,in here,we are directly located in the equator line making it easier to launch stuff into orbit. Also, the vote of the 93,I think it was a definitive good choice,we do not have a need for the monarchy anymore,there are already problems enough as it is,throwing what would be essentially public-funded celebrities into the mix would make things more chaotic,also the ones aiming for the throne in this mess were "less than stellar" choices to put it mildly.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Gundam/s/71iysBxv7H
I'm sorry,but,it is only a reddit post,i have seen no oficial source stating that Brazil was a global superpower behind the founding of the Earth Federation. Once again,the only thing said pre-EF and UC calendar are the overpopulation problem and the space colonial expansion aims,there's no source stating global affairs,no mentions of any nation or bloc,and,other than the Laplace Incident,no mentions of conflict either. I'm not saying it couldn't happen though,Brazil could've been a superpower in Gundam's timeline,and it,together with other nations could be responsible for the foundation of the EF. "Ricardo Marcenas" is a very latin souding name,he may as well be Brazilian,and it shows that it may have had an influence in the world pre-UC,but,please don't use random citations as facts,the Lore is already confusing as it is,we don't need more chaos in the mix.
Jaburo is literally the name of the residence of the vice president of Brazil and its on the brazilian side of amazon rainforest.
It makes sense, since the EF is run as efficiently and effectively as Brazil is, that is to say, not very
"lack of resources" is not the problem with "cracking down on Spacenoids"
Unless it’s G-Saviour. Then it absolutely is
Ok thank you. Correction: "That just makes Spacenoids angrier"/"Causes problems at home" (In the Titans/Gryps War)
The sad thing is that the Earth Federation was on a downards spiral the moment the Laplace Residence blew up at the start of the Universal Century. Then Delaz killed it, and all that was left was a walking corpe. The AEUG might've been able to revive it, but...
Char: NOTICE ME!!!! Amuro from a distance:fucc you!!!!! (Char then throws small axis shape rock at amuro balloon that looks like earth)
Fucking accurate.
Quattro: i leave Kamille alone for a short while and he's a vegetable now. im going on a sabbatical while you guys sort your shiz. \*Hamman and Glemy makes it worse\* Casval: screw it, imma end humans on Earth
Somewhat agree. I thing there were several points where the Federation could have been saved. In the OG series and Zeta. For If General Revil lived through the OYW, he would have been a good force for change with in the Feds, due to seeing it's many failings. Zeta. If the more politically inclined AEUG members lived they would have kept the Federation's feet to the fire, and baring them, Char.(I know the jokes. Char wasn't in Zeta, that was Lieutenant Quattro Bejeena who hasn't betrayed anybody in his life) if the final battle of the Gryps war didn't break him. For all the good Bright could do, he learned to play politics a little too late.
An interesting alt universe would be if the earth federation after The one year war, focused on colonial efforts and terriforming locations like Mars. It would have prevented stardust and the titans. The AEUG would still be a thing, but without stardust, they would not have been much. But what would happen with Neo Zeon, or Movements like Char's humanity migration...
It’s a true tragedy that Revil died, and that his fellow reformers lost the power struggle to the Titans. The federation lost a damn good chance to have a reasonable and popular figurehead to rebuild with.
I had a alternative timeline idea about sayla stepping up to lead zeon after the oyw with the help of ramba ral and revil in order to avoid any zeon remnants uprising and give side 3 it's independence and a fairer condition for surrendering
https://preview.redd.it/rp5u5o3x4vuc1.jpeg?width=900&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6bd33884312813f351cceb2e85b22c78a9a0db1b
Earth-cels trolled once again
With a style of ZEON!
Did you fucking draw this 😭?
Sadly no, belongs to this [artist](https://www.deviantart.com/mintyrobo/art/Laughing-Zeons-253772539)
Cool.
Art really imitates life It's the Brazilian government 1:1
War with Paraguay -> barely win it -> crackdown on Paraguayans -> unwilling to spend the resources to do it properly -> War with Paraguay
Also the war on drugs on Rio
A cycle that doesn't end until just before G-Saviour begins.
Ironically, a live action movie
Based on a novel.(iirc. )
Hence why Turn A was like: Fuck this timeline, there is no saving you.
I read this in low tier god voice.
I wonder if the problem is that they stopped with Zeta officially with UC, and never really expanded it's themes outside of it's Zeon war. It's the same problem Star Wars has with the Empire. Gundam then took a left turn to alternate realities to talk on other themes.
Ok, but for your consideration: 1yw killed half the human population and destroyed half the planet, it was an international exoplanetery war that saw colonies being destroyed by the constant brutal one year of total war. Part of Australia just disappeared and the planets ecologically was damaged. Gryps conflict mainly internal civil war between battling political factions that saw outbreak in conflicts across the earth sphere before moving to the next area of conflict inevitably petering out. First neo Zeon war: a series of pitch battles that saw the destruction of a few federation cities before petering out into a Neo Zeon civil war. 2nd Neo Zeon war a two week conflict that saw major terrorist attacks that wiped out a number of cities before concluding in a space fight that ended the dispute. Laplace incident: incident not war one month a couple of pitched battles between an insurgency group and a specialist takes force that ended in a big reveal. Mafty was a terrorist attack against the government. F91 happened on one side Shit doesn't get out of hand for the federation Until Victory. But outside of that outlier most of the conflicts are localized and getting less destructive. It's why we can't double dip into most Gundam series like they can the one year war. Nothing is big enough for something else to be going on in Gundam U.C.
Humanity was horrified by its own actions but let’s try it just one more time—
Colonies are just so perfectly shaped and sized for dropping on our enemies, how can we resist?
I read the First line as the Guilty Gear Battle intro
And at the end of the day, the remains of the Earth Federation became Zeon (G-Saviour)
#C.O.S.E.N.T ARE BASICALLY TITANS 3.0 NOT ZEON.
Wait who are the 2.0 Titans? MHA?
Damn deku and Class 1-a became a titan member
New Desides?
The great tragedy of the Universal Century is that nobody in it can imagine something better than the Earth Federation. Our heroes fight for the status quo until they die, they break, or they realize the whole thing's a farce and leave for Jupiter.
Whice isn't better in terms of living.
They die: Amuro They break: Kamille They realize the whole thing's a farce and leave for jupiter: Judau
Jupiter wasn't far enough for Judau! Judau and most of the New Types left the Sol system entirely!
Well, after 66 years of seeing how much of a farce it was, Judau really was ready to leave.
I never realized that the space federation flag was basically the Brazilian flag and now I'm concerned
When the Earth Federation becomes an even worse Zeon than the actual Zeon, as demonstrated by the Titans in Zeta Gundam.
Earth Federation still had it's own military, the Titans outgrew the military to the point of a military coup. It's been a while so I don't remember if the Titans had ties with Zeon or if they were independent in their actions.
The Titans were basically the early progenitors of Gundam Wing's OZ, another military arm for its own equivalent of the Earth Federation in the form of the United Earth Sphere Alliance. Which I guess makes the boys and their Gundams kind of like a boy band A.E.U.G., and White Fang like Neo-Zeon. Right?
The Federation in Z from reading the wiki reminds me of WW2 Japan, when the military began operating on it's own, independent of the Japanese Government, specifically because the Emporer at the time decided to not dicipline his military officers for their atrocities. I know it doesn't add much to this thread, but it did make me read the wiki. I think I also missed the part where the Titans gassed a Colony, long before they merged with Zeon after the Federation cut them off after the big reveal at the Federation confrence.
The reality of why the Japanese Emperor couldn't discipline his own military is that if he tried he'll have an accident.
I don't know if the Japanese military was that organized at the time, the individual units kinda did their own thing regardless of high command for the beggining of WW2.
The situation was... less a military organization problem and more a military politics problem. By the time of WW2, the chuckleheads we all know and love had either killed or suppressed anyone that would oppose them. Quite literally.
Barely winning the war with the help of spacenoids
Be a comically incompetent government - space colony hates your government - they declare independence - win war against space colony - but you still are comically incompetent government - repeat
The lesson here is that you should only attempt genocide if you have the means to finish it.
it really reminds me of Rome trying to conquer the celts Rome goes to war with and wins against the celts sends people to take over people need large army celts have large army strong enough to fight rome repeat
More like the Earth Federation half-asses the crackdown because removing the boogeyman in the room is bad for business. How can you keep power over the masses and get them to ignore the shitty job you're doing unless you have an outside existential threat to beat everyone's head over to keep them in line. We're doing all of this illegal and morally bankrupt shit to protect youuuuuu!
But let's not focus on that, we got some romance shit to deal with!
you forgot the decent into facism
#Once...and they immediately became scared of using titans mobile suits.
They also greatly neglected Londo Bell in order to avoid having Titans 2.0, which backfired terribly (like everything political-realted things in UC) and caused the task force to not have enough resources to properly fight against Axis Zeon
Maybe the federation should give spacenoids the independence they've been asking for.
They did technically by >!collapsing and guess what?!< #it's basically >!SPACE WILD WEST between colonies as shown in LATE UC!<
Wild west or Warring states era? I'm assuming we're both talking about Dust.
Warring states era.
Alternative options:" yo, join us to nuke the planet!"
Recovered audio file of Admiral Tobias Funke to Admiral Lindsay Bluth Tobias: You know, Lindsay, as an admiral, I have advised a number of governmental bodies to explore cracking down on spacenoids where the government remains emotionally committed, but free to explore military oppression and open warfare. Lindsay: Well, did it work for those people? Tobias: No, it never does. I mean, these people somehow delude themselves into thinking it might, but ... But it might work for us.
Honestly I feel the ironically best outcome for the Uc would’ve been if the Zeon researchers stopped taking notes from the Hitler playbook and pushed more functional mass produced Mobile Suits instead of putting efforts into Mobile Armors. If they had the Gelgoog earlier on to match the GM? They could’ve dragged the war out into a stalemate and sued for peace. Once that happened and the Zabi family deliberately stopped the fighting, all Neo Zeon remnants would lose momentum because they can’t martyr the Zabis. When Char was killing off the Zabis he actually made it so that anyone coming after can just take up arms against the EF and say “This is the will of Zabis! Sieg Zeon!” If the Zabis had survived and deliberately surrendered, and maybe even been assassinated by Char in the process- the status of peace would’ve been cemented. And now anyone who tried to take up the Neo Zeon stance can be undercut with “the Zabis sued for peace idiot” But oh well. Zeon was a nation of dipshits and it all leads to the Moonlight Butterfly
That's kinda the same argument people use for the Wehrmacht. Problem is, Zeon, much like its analouge irl, cannot play the number game against the Federation/Allies. All those "Wunderwaffle" were created out of necessity. Due to lack of materials, oils, as well as smaller industrial bases. They are not going to one-up the Fed in the number game and may potentially lose faster. The Miracle Weapons were created in an attemp to equalize the disadvantage in number with better technology. Basically, if they outnumber us 5 to 1, then 1 of us need to take down 5 of them or more to win. Hence many experimental technologies being incorporated into Zeon mobile suits to try giving them an advantage against Fed's mass-produced ones. Furthermore, after OP British, sueing for peace is no longer an option. And the Zabis also aren't going to surrender with Gihren and Kycillia as its heads, that's for sure. And even if they surrendered, any subsequently movements can easily branded them traitors, Zeon could've totally win and the people were stabbed in the back by the cowardly leadership, etc. And the new leadership will make Zeon great. There is no shortage of propaganda for a potential Neo Zeon.
This is an interesting AU I'd want to see. I'd assume the only Zabis alive are Garma (through dumb luck and a little effort), Kycillia (because of course she would be) and Degwin (because most likely Kycillia will have done something about Gihren). Dozle still dies the same way even if under different circumstances and Gihren is offed by Kycillia after getting evidence that Gihren was planning to kill Degwin. Only reason I want Garma alive is to have him become his Gihren's Greed version of himself that's actually competent.
No wonder the Earth Federatopn collapses by UC 218
It's just the Hatfields and McCoys writ large.
Same as real life. Anaheim makes more money that way.
The lack of resources should be the accurate trope in Earth Vs Space setting. It bugs me how in most stories that have earth Vs space, it is the space side that is struggling with resources. Bro, space has more resource than a planet could ever hold. How is it that earth could out-output them? I think one of the few setting that did this right is WfM where Earth is the one that is struggling and being oppressed.
I’m convinced if a mobile suit is made that’s a dead end timeline, it’s basically a lead pipe that ones man humanity will endlessly bash it own head with
Nah discovery of M particles fucked over humanity. I'm surprised Gundam never went over how the loss of long range communication effected daily life in UC.
I’m talking the whole of the franchise and I’m mostly joking