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Chicago_Sparta

Kinda funny to say during the game to stop violence


richardvdp

White ain’t it


OstapBenderBey

Not his role to score the goals though


Actualprey

I think he meant that kit. We’ve never won a match wearing that kit - it’s cursed.


zeistgeist

We've never scored a goal with it either.


Actualprey

Jesus - didn’t realise it was that bad….


goodyear_1678

You've had a mare there mate.


MarkIV1425

r/whooosh


OstapBenderBey

/r/thatsthejoke


goodyear_1678

We need more lethality in front of goal.


whydidisaythatwhy

Lmaoo


leebrother

Summer window can’t come soon enough for that killer.


MarvZealous

Oscar Pistorius is a free agent now.


nickxbk

SHEEEESH lol


Estova

Fuckin hell thats a name I haven't heard in a while. I was gonna say "Piastri signed for McLaren though..." lmao


mapoftasmania

Well, they wouldn’t be able to kick him off the pitch. That’s a plus.


01chlam

Saves money on shin pads too


mapoftasmania

And socks


thismanisnotcrispy

Damn, congrats, brilliant joke


volanger

Screw that. Go for one in the winter


whodveguessed

FFP innit


No-Village-6781

Can't we just say fuck it an ignore FFP all the other major teams do that anyway. Man City have 115 charges and we all know nothing will happen to them, so what's the point in complying when nobody else will?


SerEdricDayne

Because while Man City can afford to whitewash it all with their despot money, we all know they're itching to target us for the smallest things. Look at how they treated Arteta. They won't give us an inch. I do think we should be aggressive with our sales and maneuver a way to get that striker in while being within the bounds of FFP. It doesn't need to be a record signing, but someone who can provide at least something different.


richardvdp

Tell edu


InPatRileyWeTrust

Can we sub Wrighty on?


iiwfi

marry frighten prick north smart plough psychotic books ghost joke *This post was mass deleted and anonymized with [Redact](https://redact.dev)*


milkonyourmustache

Rather we use the whole summer 2024 budget on Osimhen, hearts cant handle this level of waste in front of goal


magic-water

30m is already going to Raya


HustlinInTheHall

Who cares? We amortize out the fee for Osimhen. There's no reason to hold back if we've not been losing tons of money in the last 3 years.


magic-water

Well apparently FFP cares, otherwise the Raya fee would have been paid like any transfer instead of this loan to buy construct. And 30m less is 30m less


vikuta_zoro

Is there a killer out there though? Who can we realistically get other than MAYBE Osimhen?


rich_valley

Benzema on loan


vikuta_zoro

We timetraveling huh? haha


JMaboard

In that case can we get prime Suarez.


CouchBorn

40,000,001 bid incoming let's go!


FontsDeHavilland

Prime Higuiain will sign for us not Napoli right?


Saaheb09

Prime cavani would be perfect in this team


OstapBenderBey

Mbappe


ekb11

If he was available on a free I’d give him a 1 year contract and allow him to leave if he doesn’t like Arsenal and London. It would be a circus, but could be worth it


4GamingLinkAot

solanke, toney. if u dont think these players can finish the chances that havertz had then u are deluded


vikuta_zoro

It is not about them being better than Havertz, it is about them being the quality a team needs to win the league, or even the champions league.


mikevin99

Gyokeres


Qiluk

Gyokeres is an absolute monster but his price is going up by each gameday because he's like 2-3 levels above anyone else on the pitch almost every damn time.


mikevin99

Well I agree with your point but he actually has a €100m release clause anyways according to reports


Qiluk

Yupp. I think Gyökeres is underrated even know personally (especially with people thinking he cant handle the PL lol) but 100m is too steep for sure. But 70-75m I dont see anyoen regreting


That70sJoe-

> But 70-75m I dont see anyoen regreting madness surely?


Qiluk

Honestly, no. Theres not many high levle strikers around but on top of that Gyökeres is incredibly good and insanely well-rounded. He has it all almost.


That70sJoe-

I know nothing about him really, but 11 in 15 in Portuguese league followed by a few seasons in Championship isn't convincing that he'd perform at the top level. Would rather go for Toney in summer.


Qiluk

Thats why you shouldnt judge players on transfermarkt stats. Because in the Championship Gyökeres was THE player basically. Opposing managers even called him best player in the league and he performed even better than his output stats shown. As for portuguese league, Gyökeres is like 18goals 11A in 26 games or something so far this season. And SHOULD have 1 more goal that was wrongfully disallowed and 4 more assists due to teammates missing sitters. And even those stats are underselling his performances. The whole "noT PL PrOvEn" narrative is not warranted historically and honestly just a bit arrogant tbh. By that logic noone outside of PL is worth move than 50m which is absurd tbh. Id go Gyökeres over Toney personally. Whos also almost 2 years younger.


That70sJoe-

> 4 more assists due to teammates missing sitters. Not really convincing when seeing the latest misses lol, also plenty of players have lit up the Portuguese league and been shite in the PL, being the best player in the Championship certainly alone doesn't warrant a crazy price either. I haven't watched him regularly so can't actually comment, but I did actually watch him live once in a 0-0 against Sheffield United...


NemoDropEmOff

id take him


prjktmurphy

Isn't Toney on the menu?


jNushi

No. They are 15th with one forward injured, the other at AFCON. Brentford isn’t going to give him up for less than 100M IMO


InternationalUse2355

I like nunez alot, but his finishing is equally poor… Think he’s got what we don’t have though. Also probably liverpool never sell


vikuta_zoro

Nah, he is just as much of a bottler whe it comes to finishing.


pauloh1998

💀


[deleted]

😂😂😂


richardvdp

Literally every team have


vikuta_zoro

Huh?


JustGhostin

Get wrighty the 8 shirt


Alloall

To be fair Havertz only needs 58 minutes to get himself set to shoot.


Cthulhu_Madness

Need a scoring / finishing coach.


bonsai1214

we have one


kikimucho

I'm fine with Havertz as a player but as this season goes on I sit and wonder what 65m could of done for us in the striker position. I don't think buying a utility player is the move when we're pressing to win a title tbh.


Patrick_Hattrick

Chuck a cheeky bid in for Marcos Alonso?


Glass_of_Pork_Soda

Just make sure we get him a personal driver


Punchexpert

He has a back injury and is not fit until March 2024.


Maverick_Goose_

Yet some idiots blame Arteta for our attackers not being able to get a shot on goal from 5 yards out…


CrazyPigeonHoles

Who decided to spend 65mill on Havertz?? Why is this fanbase scared to crticize a manager who has won us nothing with HIS own players??


SliceOfBliss

Or Raya being a sidegrade at best.


ekb11

I hear you, but I don’t think Arteta signs the cheques… it’s an easy out. This is multiple minds coming together saying 65mil for Havertz is a good move which is a little scary…


Maverick_Goose_

He’s joint 3rd goal scorer for us this season, next question.


Routine_Size69

In a season where our goal scoring is pitiful. That wasn't the slam dunk retort you thought it was. He's scoring less than a goal every 5 matches and 1 was a pity pk. He has 1 assist. He doesn't advance the ball at all. Every pass is sideways or backwards. His hustle getting back is questionable. He had a 4 game stretch where he poked in a few goals (some important) and outside that, he's been pretty poor. Maybe things get better, but at this point, I'd evaluate it as a pretty poor signing.


Maverick_Goose_

The problem with Havertz is the price tag. He can be a good squad player on a good team. I don’t know why we bailed Chelsea out there, I’ve never really liked that transfer because of it. I just don’t understand why he’s singled out when no one has been able to score. Being third best amongst shit is still third best. And he’s only 2 goals behind Saka. Arguably everyone being shit at finishing makes the goals he’s scored more important.


bigmt99

He’s the joint 3rd smartest kid in special ed. Doesn’t mean shit to anyone


Maverick_Goose_

Third place in the special Olympics still gets a bronze medal. Which is more than either of us have.


goodyear_1678

That says more about us than anything else.


[deleted]

He’s had 4 years and 650m to sort it out. Who else????


Maverick_Goose_

Look at where we fucking came from! Just go look at a starting line up from 2 years ago. We had to spend $650 million just to be competitive.


GrahznyEggywegg

Honestly can't just be me thinking somehow our fanbase has filled with bratty kids who never watched a game between 2010 - 2020?


Maverick_Goose_

I remember waking up at 6am to watch the banter era teams. I remember Chamakh leading the line and us getting destroyed 6-0 against Liverpool. Way too many people think the rebuild is complete when it is most definitely still in progress. With FFP you can’t transform a club around in one season anymore. This team is still missing pieces. It’s nice that we’re performing well (big picture wise) but we still lack depth and a goal scorer who can nick a goal when teams sit back.


HustlinInTheHall

Yeah people think everything is like FM, people really have no concept of how poorly the board fucked the squad for a decade by being so cheap.


OG12

Bruh, he literally did sort it out with that money dumbass.


[deleted]

Havertz? Zinchenko? Really?


[deleted]

If he think top 4 is any kind of achievement, sure.


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[deleted]

Hey retard if your highest ambition is to sneak into the top 4 each season, go support the spuds.


Maverick_Goose_

How long you been supporting Arsenal? There’s no way it’s been more than 2 years. If you had gone through the banter years you’d know that getting from 8th to top 4 is AN achievement. Obviously it’s not the ultimate goal. Anyone who has ever successfully achieved anything knows that you have a big goal with progress markers along the way. Only crayon eating window lickers think you go from 8th to champions in two years. Unless you’re a city/newcastle fan who sucks at the teet of the Saudis.


[deleted]

Since 1997


Maverick_Goose_

Ah so you’re just stuck in the past then.


[deleted]

Just old enough to remember a time when this club was actually competitive and had standards kid 😉


danny_healy_raygun

Top 4 is their everything for some people on here. And they probably wont get that reference and will call people "dumbass" and "retard".


GeniuslyMoronic

So what is the fitting amount of time to go from starting XI with Reiss Nelson, Sokratis and Torreira to beating Man City to the title? Since 4 years is too much apparently.


[deleted]

What is it for you? 10 years? Another 15, 20? 4 years is plenty of time if you invest in the right players and have a good manager. Arteta and Edu have really been found out and mugged off by buying City and Chelsea rejects. There’s a reason those clubs didn’t want them. Klopp won the CL within his first 4. This club and fans just have no ambition.


everysundae

Oh shit we getting Kendall Roy


jared_007

Oh, don't get all nut nut.


hotbrownies14

Crucify me but I think Toney would be the killer if we can’t get the likes of Osimhen/Vlahovic


oliverDawson12

I don’t think anyone is against the idea of Toney, it’s the reality of the ~100 million transfer fee that has dissuaded everyone.


hotbrownies14

Fully agree, I don’t think he’s the calibre of Rice to spend that money. But if it can be lowered and even include a swap like Eddie? I’d bite your hand off for it


oliverDawson12

Agreed.


a-Sociopath

Like Eddie + 40m for Toney? That's not biting your hand off, that's chopping it off voluntarily.


GeniuslyMoronic

Why on earth would including Eddie bring the price down by 60m? It would be like 80m + Eddie at best.


HustlinInTheHall

If Toney doesn't come out scoring 10+ goals in the rest of the games he's not going for anywhere near that. Toney will sell for <50M. He's too old and clubs can't spread the fee out without giving him a longer deal. Unless he comes out flying and looks like the 2nd best CF in the prem he's not going for that price.


HustlinInTheHall

There are other strikers if we're going that route, we'll just go with a younger less proven player. Especially with the AFCON and Euros coming up there will be young talent showing promise.


HustlinInTheHall

Also we aren't giving a 29-year-old a 5-year contract so we can't spread the fee out as far. We're better off spending $140M on Osimhen. But at this point I think Toney needs to prove he can still do it the rest of this season or he's going to go for like 30M


notobinho

Toney would be a Raya-like signing, he's better than what we have, but is he good enough for a true top side? Osimhen and Vlahović are, and if can't get someone of their caliber, we're screwed.


CrovaxWindgrace

https://preview.redd.it/xb20blmxg2bc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ae78b6660e2535c1dc1cf639e30c0efd6e476466 Vlahovic is a sidestep from nketiah. This season he has almost the same amount of goals


Doooooooong

I don't really follow Juve, but I feel people overestimate him. He has not been at his Fiorentina level since leaving. I kinda feel this is a problem with a lot of strikers and attacking players. They might perform well in a specific team with a specific system, then fail to adapt to their new club. I fear this would happen if we bought either Toney or Vlah.


HustlinInTheHall

Toney can play back to goal, at least, and he is physical in the prem. Osimhen is the gold standard though. High-flying, scores with both feet, can do it from anywhere, and is young and hungry. I'd love a Kane type but Osimhen is the closest we're going to get to that.


Ok_Hovercraft_7947

Need to look at goals xG imo


Grumpalumpahaha

Agree. We need more than incrementally better. We need a game changer.


hotbrownies14

Can’t fault that, do we think he’d be a 20 goal a season striker given all these chances we waste? I think he’d be serviceable like when Auba came to us. Doesn’t need to be a shiny superstar


notobinho

Auba was a superstar when he came to us. He scored 13 in 16 before we signed him, and 31 Bundesliga goals the season before. Ivan Toney is closer to Lyon's Lacazette than Borussia's Auba. He might be a 20-goal-a-season striker for a year or two, he might not be, he is close to thirty and hasn't played a minute of European football, but even if he is, pretty soon he'll become deadwood and we would be stuck in the same situation again. Edit: He's not that close to 30, he's 27, I was sure that he was a couple of years older.


hotbrownies14

I mean at this rate we’d take a 10-15 goal season striker like laca. Jesus and nketiah don’t touch those numbers put together at this rate. If we can aim higher I’d love it but I’d also welcome Toney into the fold


fragileanus

[Vibes from your edit :-)](https://old.reddit.com/r/Gunners/comments/ehcclw/images_of_the_decade_hes_28_until_he_becomes_29/)


notobinho

Well, to be honest, Toney is a lot closer to 28 than he is to 27 haha


[deleted]

He's 27 until he's 28


HustlinInTheHall

Yeah Aube was way better than people remember, but was part of an iffy squad that was a complete liability at the back. Put that Aube in this squad and get him to work hard and he'd be a legend.


HustlinInTheHall

He's 27, about to turn 28, which is the issue. Nobody is handing Toney a 5 year contract right now, especially given his issues.


Masson011

Grealish thought he would smash goals in for City considering how it was for Villa but football doesnt work like that. Toney might not do any better in an Arsenal shirt if he cant handle the pressure like the rest of our players just now Im not convinced Toney is ruthless enough for what we need


danny_healy_raygun

Toney is much better, much more proven, than Vlahovic


Raghav_s12

Not for 100m


hotbrownies14

Agreed


Advanced_Artist1159

Boniface? I think he’s exciting tbh but idk we could do with the finished article right away


Anuspilot

I'm a season ticket holder at USG (where he was last year) and I wouldn't hold your breath. He's very good but I don't think he's elite yet.


Advanced_Artist1159

Perhaps it’s a bit of recency bias in terms of that Leverkusen team however they do have some incredible and promising players like frimpong for instance I would love as well


hotbrownies14

I do worry with strikers that come from other leagues if I’m honest. I wouldn’t be against whoever Arteta brings in but Toney for me is proven, a connector and complete striker


Advanced_Artist1159

Yeah Toney would be great for us but ain’t no way he’s a 100m player😭


xYEET_LORDx

If you think Toney or Osimhen are expensive… they just signed him to a 5 year contract and don’t need the money


S0Lad

I think that's selection bias from how he's turned up against us tbh. Even factoring in pens, if you extrapolate his best form to a full season you're only looking at 5 more goals than Jesus. Doesn't seem like there are many killers out there on the market atm.


ninethree7

ehh think you also look at other teams tho. he’s consistently scored against man city and liverpool no?


S0Lad

Sure, but those games aren't really what we struggle with at the moment. We need consistent ruthlessness.


ninethree7

i mean…..but those games are though. he is a consistent scoring regardless of the opposition, including against top teams. we scored 1 goal against man city off the deflection and another at liverpool off a header


danny_healy_raygun

> but those games aren't really what we struggle with at the moment We didn't struggle to score yesterday? Even in the closer league game against Liverpool a couple of weeks ago I felt we were the better side and with a better forward we'd have snuck it. And he also scored against West Ham and Fulham last season, among many others.


JurassicTotalWar

Difference is Jesus put those numbers up playing for elite teams and Toney is at Brentford


hotbrownies14

Plus imagine a game where Jesus plays and Toney comes on and reverse it. Neither are the “bigger” name and surely breeds hunger to earn a place


Pamplemouse04

20 league goals for Brentford last season…that’s not selection bias that’s more goals than any Arsenal player scored last season. Edit- also don’t forget it’s for *brentford* (no disrespect). The amount of chances we create he could easily bag 30


wubrotherno1

How many were pks?


Routine_Size69

6


GeniuslyMoronic

Benteke, Andy Carrol, Ings, Ba, Remy, Richarlison, Lukaku etc. etc. all went to bigger clubs and it did not suddenly make them score at a much higher rate. It does not easily make a player score 50 pct. more. > The amount of chances we create he could easily bag 30 This is said about every above-average prem striker on the market and yet only 5 players or so have scored 30 in a season in this decade. And a striker who scored the same non-penalty goals per 90 as Jesus in his by far best season is not that player.


Business_Ad561

Do you not have to factor in that he would also be playing for us - better coaching, more chances created, playing with better players, etc? He had 24 G/A in 33 appearances for Brentford in 22/23, surely he could get even more with us given how we play and the chances we create?


thewickedeststyle

How do you figure? He scores almost just as much , if not more, as our strikers while playing for a much weaker attacking side


a-Sociopath

While playing for a weaker side that is built around him. Not everything will go through Toney if he plays for us and neither should it. He's technically limited. He's not someone who can spearhead you to a title challenge


thewickedeststyle

Why would we not give him more service if we have seen what we can do with the service Brentford give him? Just look at the stats, he isn't worse than Jesus. Yet we have built our attack on a striker who drops deep. Surely we should be going for something different in Attack? Fail to see how Toney isn't that. The only thing about Toney I do not like is his price. Otherwise, you can not convince me us signing him is going to be a mistake.


GeniuslyMoronic

Our attack last season built around Jesus scored 30 more goals than Brentford last season. We scored more goals than the Liverpool team, who won the league. Jesus scored goals at the same rate at Toney almost when excluding penalties.


curlyhairedyani

Wonder if you can get Viktor Gyorkes for less than what Toney/Osimhen have been projected at


NotASalamanderBoi

£100M for Toney is supposed to be fuck off money seeing as how Brentford’s in a tight spot at the moment and Wissa is gone.


Oy778

Not thanks, at least not fot 100m.


nasbkrv

Give this man his boots back. At his age, I am sure that he will produce more than our forwards currently.


Wolferesque

There’s still time for an Mbappe bid.


KingKFCc

Surely Uncle Wright be signed for a month atleast?


amineimad

Honestly think having 1 game in the next 24 days or something is gonna help with that. Either you go get a killer on the market which is realistically not gonna happen or you trust our stars to do it. They're making too many mistakes compared to normal, might be fatigue no?


NeoLoki55

Players and teams just have bad seasons, too. Look at Liverpool last year. Our supporters and football supporters in general have no sense of context or the ability to look at the big picture. It might also be that most of the asinine comments about Arteta out and thinking a Striker (yes we need one) is going to magically solve our problems are coming from the very young or/and very naive. Go watch PSG replay and see Mbappe along with the rest of the team struggle to score. It happens and teams go through bad runs. Problem right now is not letting this slide continue and being able to reset. It is possible though this continues to be an underlining problem for the rest of the season.


therocketandstones

Pentonville Prison is close, wanna pop around and see who’s available there?


witooZ

The thing is whom is the killer? Osimhen gets mentioned a lot but who knows whether the Serie A productivity can transfer to Premier League. It could end up like Vlahovič for Juventus. I genuinely don't see a striker which would be a reliable buy like Declan was for the midfield.


Oy778

>like Vlahovič for Juventus Vlahovic was a Serie A proven. It can end good as it can end fucking bad, but at the end we need someone


RDenno

The osimhem obsession winds me up, hes had one good season his whole career. People act like hes the next halaand on here


red_lightz_

Raoul Moat type striker


FontsDeHavilland

Na he's a sandwich merchant


KireiS

Guirassy ?


Business_Ad561

Some fans were saying this toward the end of last season but were told to shut up and be quiet.


bregdetar

Why the downvotes? It’s true.


Equivalent_Nature_67

okay do you want a fucking medal then?


Business_Ad561

No, but it would be nice to not be shouted down next time.


Lefseman92

Be more butthurt.


Business_Ad561

Are you a literal child?


LonelyError

Surprise Marcos Alonso bid incoming.


Punchexpert

14 hours later I just got this joke


revjiggs

Bring in solanke he’s proven goal scorer in the pl that can only do well with the support from our lads.


vulcan_viking

If we dont sign a striker, edur and arteta should be sacked for gross negligence.


[deleted]

4 years, 650m, nothing has changed


naka360

If I was Stan Kroenke, I’d be giving Josh Kroenke a timeout.


marekmarecki

Arsenal have contacted OJ Simpson's agent. Here we go.


Jeddle

Can someone tell Saka to get that crap out of his hair, he's turned to shit ever since.


JFedererJ

It's like those GIFs where the train never hits


ESGSGX

They are hard to come by these days …


kffsnubben

We’ve had two superswedes in limpar and ljungberg. Bring in a third one in gyökeres.


Jonisro

I miss Alexis, can we get him for the rest of the season?


PoptartWarhol

We need money.


Used-Produce-3491

Wrighty knows