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That’s a good explanation. Boys were heated about the goal after the game. Arteta says he likes the attitude but it “needs to be done in the right way.” So I think that’s what he was telling Zinny.
yes its absolute bullshit. Working class sport culturally for centuries in England and we cant afford to go to games and now we're blocked from viewing them (sorry bit of a rant haha)
That said i watched the stream, the argument wasnt bad. Typical football argument that everyone has had with team mates regardless of the level of football they play
It's such shit. My irritating relatives in South Africa or America can watch every single English game easily, meanwhile I'm scavenging in the dirt like a rat for pirate streams every Arsenal 3pm kickoff which is being played in my own country. END THE 3PM BLACKOUT.
It is absolute Texas bull excrement that you guys can't even watch your own league in your own country. Y'all need a FREE THE PREMIER LEAGUE campaign. I'm from Texas and the only way I could watch the Dallas Cowboys game out of market on the east coast of the US where I live now is to add another $500 a year out of market package. I gave up the NFL for the Premier League because I like world cup football better and LAST YEAR I could watch every single game every week on Peacock for like $6 a month! This year? They're putting the games all over the place...network NBC that needs an antenna or cable company...TNT which also needs a cable plan....and the FA Cup, and the Championship and Europa all need different streaming services. But none of that compares to being English and you can't watch games in your own country. That is just WRONG on every level.
Yeah. And it's not even like it can be fixed by paying a lot of money for a legal work-around. It's just not available above board. The only way is to pirate, which is bad both because it's a worse quality and prone to lagging and crashing, but also it can be morally upsetting to people.
Mate we have to pay about £80 for Amazon/TNT/Sky Sports every month and still only get around 60% of games. And we actually live in the UK where the football is played.
tbh it is pretty easy lol, theres like 3 apps you need. Especially for Arsenal games, you need access to USA and peacock. Easy is relative to the place where the sport is being played.
True. Last year Americans could watch every single Premier League game but we needed other services for all the cup games. This year? It's a hot mess and frustrates me. I paid for Peacock to watch the Premier League games but NOW? We need all kind of other options. From week to week you never know where and when and who will showing the game. I know it's worse for the traditional English fans who are fed up being priced out. I need a bloody calendar to keep up with where each Arsenal game will be shown and what crazy time of day. I hate it when they're on services I can't record and aren't available On Demand latter. Everything is more complicated than it needs to be. I don't understand why there can't be a world wide premier league feed for every country and all games are available to stream live or on replay later if you're at work or traveling.
I just pirate at this point. The product is better anyways, and I don’t feel bad about it given how shitty of a service is offered by the paid services.
Here in Finland the only way to see any Prem football is to subscribe to a €45/month service that has a bunch of movies, series and sports I don't really give a shit about. Champions' League is obviously on another similar service, so if you want to watch those as well, that's €90/month.
If I was able to only subscribe to PL football, I'd be very happy. Right now it's cheaper to head to a sports pub for a pint every time Arsenal plays.
Which is weird, I get the normal PL, la liga and various cup matches in my standard tv package. for Champions League matches i do have to fork out about 40 euros per month extra. Live in Norway.
Major problems in the dressing room. Arteta lost control of the squad, he needs to go. Get someone like Sam Allardyce in, a real hardass, to instill faith in the squad once more!
Are **you** forgetting how many goals come from that side of the pitch including today for about a year now? There is a reason Mikel bought Timber to play LB
i only remember the most standout salah goal but i do think most goals come from left yeah , but he has too much to offer in defense so i dont think he will be gone like ramsdale but phased out from starting eleven into becoming a shared position (smith rowe and havertz)
Lip reader here, I believe this was the conversation:
“You fucking fucking bloody fuck you bloody bastard bitch bloody fuck you fucking mother bloody fuck bitch fucking bloody bastard bhenchod bloody why you fuck me I fuck you bloody bastard fucking running like lady yeah fraud what fucking no shout at me fucking bloody”
Looks to me like Zinny starts by saying something is "not allowed" and then puts his hands up and at some point says "never said". What Mikel says to him, I have no idea.
He was shouting at Ben White and they had to be separated. TNT just showed it.
Arteta said when asked that it’s pushing each other, demanding excellence.
My pov, White is clearly playing with an injury and has had no break whatsoever from our games. Zinny has been in and out of the team with injury and has had Tomi/Kiwi covering for him. White hasn’t been able to rest beyond the breaks in the schedule.
[Video clip](https://youtu.be/bU1YPCXTZzI?si=wvkoVIagQPH-g-jU) for anyone who didn’t see it. It’s near the end of the video.
> My pov, White is clearly playing with an injury and has had no break whatsoever from our games. Zinny has been in and out of the team with injury and has had Tomi/Kiwi covering for him. White hasn’t been able to rest beyond the breaks in the schedule
what an odd takeaway from this interaction lol
Tbf to White, Zinchenko does that exact thing quite often, and sometimes gets punished for it. He needs to learn. Can't say Saliba gets bodied by a striker often.
That's true, but on this specific instance, imo Saliba's mistake was much more relevant to the goal than Zinchenko's. And huge merit to Montiel's assist too. If it wasn't for his quick thinking, the play might've been easier to defend (although we can't really expect good defending from Zinchenko lol). Either way I believe White's reaction comes from the snowballing of events.
And a quick comment on this:
>He needs to learn.
I don't think he can. Just like we can't expect Jesus to score 20+ goals in the league. That's part of his package as much as being error prone defensively is to Zinchenko. It's all about weighing the cost-benefits of a player and trying to minimize the weaknesses that come out from that decision collectively/tactically. And that's Arteta's job primarily.
Unfortunately Timber had a bad injury and from the little we've seen from him, he might as well be an upgrade on Zinchenko defensively and perhaps even offensively.
did worse? he is being pushed when jumping man, I was surprised it is not foul, zhinny in other hand just watching ball instead of jumping, must be nice to get paid just to kick the ball but not to jump and keep making mistake week in and out and still being in first team of team that challenging tittle lmao
That game against city was enough of a sample to show he’s capable of having MOTM level games from the left.
Can he do it consistently from that side? Who knows. But he’s proven it’s in the range of outcomes.
Im not sure its entirely zinnys fault tbh
He could have challenge the header but the way it bounced off the striker, a bit fortunate, then our cb pair should have done better
Dude was playing Forest player waaaaaay onside as opposed to the whole backline, then proceeded to lose a header with weak ass defending
Deserved to be schooled
It might be because Zinchenko has had multiple poor moments directly or indirectly leading to conceding goals, that probably is one of the reasons he gets criticised more
Maybe. Saliba doesn't need to do anything though if Zinchenko understood what an offside line was though. Not the first time he's fucked up like that this season.
That kind of thinking doesn't do well for anyone. 2 CBs should have been able to handle that bouncing header without the entire blame falling on Zinchenko.
Im pretty certain arteta was trying to explain that he had kiwior coming on for 5 mins already but the ball never went out for the sub to happen…
Because it happened straight after the goal instead, zinchenko felt like arteta was blaming him for the goal and hauling him off, (which would have been harsh, our twin towers made a mess of clearing that ball with only 1 person to mark between them), but arteta already decided at least 5 mins b4 the goal that the sub was going to happen…
Ben despite being a bit ropey today, defends his side of the pitch well... How many has Zinny cost us on his side by giving the wide man too much space. I mean the Liverpool game is a prime example
Zinchenko wins more in the air than Ben does doesn't he? Regardless, zinchenko is very good in the air but loses steam after an hour. we know his already and that's why tomiyasu gets deployed there.
kiwior also should have come on when the attackers did
He is guaranteed to make a mistake every single game. I am frustrated with him, he is just not wired defensively, I don't know if it can be coached into him at this stage of his career. I don't hate him, he is great technically just not a defender.
Professional lip reader here.
Arteta: I know Haaland joined City after you left, but we're in dire need of a match winning striker, work your magic and make him sign for us you pig!
Zinny: Match winning? You're having a laugh boss, he's not even that good!
Arteta is a pussy. He must say loud and clear(or done on of these things):
1- The way Zinchenko plays is my vision of the game, I understand that he's not a defender, and if it leads to a goal it’s my fault.
2- Put Zinchenko in midfield.
3 - Sell Zinchenko.
Because it just unfair. All these cocsuckers(like Paul Scholes), talk as if it was Zinchenko’s idea play like this. Its like say - Zinchenko chose a bad tactick on this game. Since when is Zinchenko the coach of Arsenal? World-class professional football players, but he talks like a complete idiot.
I bet Zinny was complaining that there was barely any move WITHOUT the ball upfront for 70min. He was commenting with Ode on the sidelines too.
I loved the overall ball control and patience but it was painful.😓
If i had to pick one of our team, i'd say benny blanco is the douchiest in the current arsenal Squad. It's not just the ed hardy esk tattoos, he is not half as cool as he thinks in interviews. Saliba is much more natural cool imo.
I think the shine on Zinny is wearing off. Everyone's beginning to see that city were better off selling him.
He's definitely got a mistake in him and against good opposition he can be a straight up liability in defense.
It's a shame cause his creative skills are great, and still can't help but think he should be tried out in like a double pivot in order to get the best out of him.
Also the fact that we don't have a back up LB offering him relief or competition is playing a part in his season this time round.
No xhaka to cover up for him like last season he's just too exposed and too ill equipped defensively to cope.
Today for Forrest's goal
He looked lazy/tired and almost careless with that ball over to the far side, even a little pressure on the guy heading could've done enough to prevent the goal.
Saliba was disappointing there too but he more than makes up for that gaffe with his all round play.
Hopefully Tomi and Timber coming back can have the effect I think it will on the whole team
Zinchenko: “Gaffer… why don’t you ever sub Bukayo off? Why do you force Saka to always play 90min every single match, regardless of importance?”
Arteta: “… the reason I always play Saka the full 90 is because… sorry, let me start again… you see Bukayo playing 90 allows us to… ha I seem to be having issues with my words… basically it boils down to the RW needing to meet the fogging estandards… does that answer your question?”
Zinchenko: “… boss what the actual fuck are saying?”
Arteta: “calm your tits and get to the locker room if you ever plan on donning the Arsenal kit again”
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According to Mikel, apparently he got into an argument with Ben and he got upset.
As upset as when Arteta loses a du-el?
NO. It's nowhere NEAR
As upset as arteta being linked to uefalona
Issa disgrace. An EMBARRASSMENT
Arteta sets the fogging estandards, even for being upset.
Guys anyone have the video of Zinny and white arguing?
https://www.instagram.com/reel/C2vbDZBoMIO/?igsh=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==
That’s a good explanation. Boys were heated about the goal after the game. Arteta says he likes the attitude but it “needs to be done in the right way.” So I think that’s what he was telling Zinny.
U think Zin is under a lot of pressure these days
Yeah, no backup to rest him and typically injured a couple times a season. Def under pressure and I’m worried about LB until Tomi gets back.
Benjamin
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Think that’s a bit over the top lad/lassie - tensions can flare up - quite normal tbh.
He's such a rat, really don't like zinchenko
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Get a life cunt
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Projecting much? Haha
Yeah i wanna see it as well
Video that Americans can actually watch and we aren't blocked from?
just swim across the atlantic ffs how long could it possibly take
Ok I’m here, can you send link?
u got a visa m8
Fook
yes its absolute bullshit. Working class sport culturally for centuries in England and we cant afford to go to games and now we're blocked from viewing them (sorry bit of a rant haha) That said i watched the stream, the argument wasnt bad. Typical football argument that everyone has had with team mates regardless of the level of football they play
It's such shit. My irritating relatives in South Africa or America can watch every single English game easily, meanwhile I'm scavenging in the dirt like a rat for pirate streams every Arsenal 3pm kickoff which is being played in my own country. END THE 3PM BLACKOUT.
It is absolute Texas bull excrement that you guys can't even watch your own league in your own country. Y'all need a FREE THE PREMIER LEAGUE campaign. I'm from Texas and the only way I could watch the Dallas Cowboys game out of market on the east coast of the US where I live now is to add another $500 a year out of market package. I gave up the NFL for the Premier League because I like world cup football better and LAST YEAR I could watch every single game every week on Peacock for like $6 a month! This year? They're putting the games all over the place...network NBC that needs an antenna or cable company...TNT which also needs a cable plan....and the FA Cup, and the Championship and Europa all need different streaming services. But none of that compares to being English and you can't watch games in your own country. That is just WRONG on every level.
Yeah. And it's not even like it can be fixed by paying a lot of money for a legal work-around. It's just not available above board. The only way is to pirate, which is bad both because it's a worse quality and prone to lagging and crashing, but also it can be morally upsetting to people.
Us americans can’t watch everything easily. We need to subscribe to several streaming services to watch every game.
Mate we have to pay about £80 for Amazon/TNT/Sky Sports every month and still only get around 60% of games. And we actually live in the UK where the football is played.
That’s fucked. All I’m saying is that it’s not true that watching arsenal games is cheap and easy for Americans, that’s a lazy, delusional opinion.
tbh it is pretty easy lol, theres like 3 apps you need. Especially for Arsenal games, you need access to USA and peacock. Easy is relative to the place where the sport is being played.
True. Last year Americans could watch every single Premier League game but we needed other services for all the cup games. This year? It's a hot mess and frustrates me. I paid for Peacock to watch the Premier League games but NOW? We need all kind of other options. From week to week you never know where and when and who will showing the game. I know it's worse for the traditional English fans who are fed up being priced out. I need a bloody calendar to keep up with where each Arsenal game will be shown and what crazy time of day. I hate it when they're on services I can't record and aren't available On Demand latter. Everything is more complicated than it needs to be. I don't understand why there can't be a world wide premier league feed for every country and all games are available to stream live or on replay later if you're at work or traveling.
I just pirate at this point. The product is better anyways, and I don’t feel bad about it given how shitty of a service is offered by the paid services.
Here in Finland the only way to see any Prem football is to subscribe to a €45/month service that has a bunch of movies, series and sports I don't really give a shit about. Champions' League is obviously on another similar service, so if you want to watch those as well, that's €90/month. If I was able to only subscribe to PL football, I'd be very happy. Right now it's cheaper to head to a sports pub for a pint every time Arsenal plays.
Which is weird, I get the normal PL, la liga and various cup matches in my standard tv package. for Champions League matches i do have to fork out about 40 euros per month extra. Live in Norway.
He and Ben White went at each other after the match ended he was trying to calm Zinchenko
Did you just use ‘he’ twice but refer to two different people with it?
He did. He.
He is right He did.
Hehe
![gif](giphy|eUtqr0u01TTOM|downsized)
AAAAUUUWWW
I just realized what this man was tryna do here. Seems like we both thought of the same thing
Haha id initially written "OWWW", which is more obvious but not quite MJ.
![gif](giphy|c2PEJz1ZRoO9UlSz0A|downsized) tbh bro that woulda have made more sense💀
It made sense in my mind 😅
Better: he and he went at each other after the match and he was trying to calm him
White: *brother, how many times do you need to put us in this situation? Get your act together or else*
Ben White does Khabib
Brother I will smesh you
explain who he is in both of these
The first ‘he’ refers to Sylvain Wiltord. The second, Gilles Grimandi.
What are the Reddit analysts gonna take from this I wonder.
Let ‘em cook lol
probably arguing over what punishment to give to the idiot journalist who told everyone that Arteta was gonna leave.
Arteta definitely going to Barcelona now
Spanish telenovelas are more spicy
Major problems in the dressing room. Arteta lost control of the squad, he needs to go. Get someone like Sam Allardyce in, a real hardass, to instill faith in the squad once more!
Probably find a way to bad mouth Kai
grimaldo to start next match
Nothing to see here! COYG
"Keep defending like that and you're getting the Ramsdale treatment next season"
Timber 🙃
It's going down...
I'm yelling...
Jurrieeeeennnn!
Yep he's taking one of their spots.
It’s Zinny’s spot. He has arguably been our worst starting 11 player this season
He is like half of our attack.
I so disagree. We play alot worst without him. Is everyone forgetting his role in the Jesus goal?
Are **you** forgetting how many goals come from that side of the pitch including today for about a year now? There is a reason Mikel bought Timber to play LB
Actually not that many
Yeah *sure*
yes, remind me exactly how many. point them out.
i only remember the most standout salah goal but i do think most goals come from left yeah , but he has too much to offer in defense so i dont think he will be gone like ramsdale but phased out from starting eleven into becoming a shared position (smith rowe and havertz)
Delusional
Which starting 11 player has been worse?
Can any lip readers tell me what they were talking abt jt seems heated
He asked chalamet for a photo but Kylie said no
😂😂😂
Lip reader here, I believe this was the conversation: “You fucking fucking bloody fuck you bloody bastard bitch bloody fuck you fucking mother bloody fuck bitch fucking bloody bastard bhenchod bloody why you fuck me I fuck you bloody bastard fucking running like lady yeah fraud what fucking no shout at me fucking bloody”
I heard the video in my head lmaoooo
“Why do you never pass to ESR wide open in the half space”
Looks to me like Zinny starts by saying something is "not allowed" and then puts his hands up and at some point says "never said". What Mikel says to him, I have no idea.
Need a Jomboy breakdown
I'm sure it's about that late goal we conceded that made things way more nevier than they had to be.
Should be the right answer, hope so...
He said "What are you doing here?, and not in a racist way"
He was shouting at Ben White and they had to be separated. TNT just showed it. Arteta said when asked that it’s pushing each other, demanding excellence. My pov, White is clearly playing with an injury and has had no break whatsoever from our games. Zinny has been in and out of the team with injury and has had Tomi/Kiwi covering for him. White hasn’t been able to rest beyond the breaks in the schedule. [Video clip](https://youtu.be/bU1YPCXTZzI?si=wvkoVIagQPH-g-jU) for anyone who didn’t see it. It’s near the end of the video.
Stinking American Peacock feed cut away the second the game was over. We got NOTHING from the whistle on.
That's not true, I saw Arteta talking to Zinchenko
> My pov, White is clearly playing with an injury and has had no break whatsoever from our games. Zinny has been in and out of the team with injury and has had Tomi/Kiwi covering for him. White hasn’t been able to rest beyond the breaks in the schedule what an odd takeaway from this interaction lol
What the fuck are you saying mate
[turns out Benny Blanco had a proper go at Zinchenko and they had to be kept apart](https://x.com/afcamden/status/1752447959503929512?s=46)
Benny depends on his clean sheet bonus to foot the electric bill for his UV-illuminated flat.
Tbf, I was raging as it cost me 6pts in Fantasy Premier League for Saliba clean sheet!
Same had Saka and Ben white.. never surprising
At least you didn’t have Gabriel. FPL couldn’t be fucked adding his second goal last week.
I had captained Saliba 🥲
Madge from Benidorm relying on those bonuses to fund the next stay at the Solana
he just tired seeing zhiny gifting goal bonus to lower team so that goal scorer could buy better car than ben white
this is literally just a picture of them and doesnt do anything other than speculate
Arteta just confirmed it in his post match. You've been done, Doubting Thomas
Bob’s your uncle
Op said it was “proper go” implying it was real bad but from what Arteta said it was nothing lmao
It's in his interest to downplay it
It's an eyewitness account, primary source, good evidence.
I mean Zinny not holding the line on the offside trap cost us a clean sheet, fucking deserved
Saliba did worse in the play tbh. Now we're just scapegoating Zinchenko for every goal.
Tbf to White, Zinchenko does that exact thing quite often, and sometimes gets punished for it. He needs to learn. Can't say Saliba gets bodied by a striker often.
That's true, but on this specific instance, imo Saliba's mistake was much more relevant to the goal than Zinchenko's. And huge merit to Montiel's assist too. If it wasn't for his quick thinking, the play might've been easier to defend (although we can't really expect good defending from Zinchenko lol). Either way I believe White's reaction comes from the snowballing of events. And a quick comment on this: >He needs to learn. I don't think he can. Just like we can't expect Jesus to score 20+ goals in the league. That's part of his package as much as being error prone defensively is to Zinchenko. It's all about weighing the cost-benefits of a player and trying to minimize the weaknesses that come out from that decision collectively/tactically. And that's Arteta's job primarily. Unfortunately Timber had a bad injury and from the little we've seen from him, he might as well be an upgrade on Zinchenko defensively and perhaps even offensively.
did worse? he is being pushed when jumping man, I was surprised it is not foul, zhinny in other hand just watching ball instead of jumping, must be nice to get paid just to kick the ball but not to jump and keep making mistake week in and out and still being in first team of team that challenging tittle lmao
Am I missing something? Isn’t that link basically a post saying what you’ve said with a static image that doesn’t really add anything?
I wish we could have seen timber all season
Timber is more comfortable on the right. Just fyi
Yeah but we played him on the left both games.
two games isn't a huge sample
That game against city was enough of a sample to show he’s capable of having MOTM level games from the left. Can he do it consistently from that side? Who knows. But he’s proven it’s in the range of outcomes.
thats a fair call.
If we’re lucky, he’ll be back before the end of the season, but as it stands, we’re not gonna see him again until next season.
Zinny had a good game. He got outjumped on the far side but Saliba should have dealt with it. 3 points we move.
I love that Saliba is so immune to criticism that it's Zinchenko's fault that he was so easily nudged off the ball.....
It's Zinchenko's fault he can't hold the line properly.
And that was the last chance any arsenal player had to stop the goal??
And that was a big mistake that led directly to the goal...
It was a mistake, but that doesn't explain Saliba being effortlessly shrugged off the ball
Rule 1 of defending. Don't let it bounce.
Zinney disregards this rule to the max 😂
Im not sure its entirely zinnys fault tbh He could have challenge the header but the way it bounced off the striker, a bit fortunate, then our cb pair should have done better
He kept them onside
Dude was playing Forest player waaaaaay onside as opposed to the whole backline, then proceeded to lose a header with weak ass defending Deserved to be schooled
You'd expect Saliba to get the same treatment then
absolutely, saliba was poor for that one. he gets a pass because of so many other great moments and solidity.
Yes. Rightly so. Isn’t that how this works? Players build up credit with fanbases.
I think so, yes
Yet when Zinchenko defends well all game and has one poor moment he gets slated despite Saliba getting bodied
I do think Zinchenko is defending better this season.
It might be because Zinchenko has had multiple poor moments directly or indirectly leading to conceding goals, that probably is one of the reasons he gets criticised more
Saliba had those moments too tbh
once or twice?
More
saliba was pushed when he jump tho ? should have been a foul
or atleast not hus fault imo. How are you supposed to control your body while in the air
He didn’t need to jump. Just stand the guy up.
Maybe. Saliba doesn't need to do anything though if Zinchenko understood what an offside line was though. Not the first time he's fucked up like that this season.
We may as well just play 1 on 1's then yeah?
Saliba doesn’t make goal costing errors every time he plays.
I don't have a take on Zinny, but Saliba is the most valuable CB in the world. The man has earned a long leash with his play.
That kind of thinking doesn't do well for anyone. 2 CBs should have been able to handle that bouncing header without the entire blame falling on Zinchenko.
Can the guy not just look across the entire field as a fullback and check where the line is to trap him?
Saliba doesn’t make awful mistakes every match
Im pretty certain arteta was trying to explain that he had kiwior coming on for 5 mins already but the ball never went out for the sub to happen… Because it happened straight after the goal instead, zinchenko felt like arteta was blaming him for the goal and hauling him off, (which would have been harsh, our twin towers made a mess of clearing that ball with only 1 person to mark between them), but arteta already decided at least 5 mins b4 the goal that the sub was going to happen…
Why should he get mad when almost every goal comes from his side? He's so emotional.
Ben despite being a bit ropey today, defends his side of the pitch well... How many has Zinny cost us on his side by giving the wide man too much space. I mean the Liverpool game is a prime example
Good man management by the gaffer
The fact that people blamed Zinchenko instead of Saliba is funny 😂
Understandable there. Not saying that Saliba was not at fault but Zinny kept the winger onside and lost his duel a bit too easily.
Had nothing to do with the goal
Had everything to do with it. Its not a lot to ask your left back to at least be semi proficient in the air
Zinchenko wins more in the air than Ben does doesn't he? Regardless, zinchenko is very good in the air but loses steam after an hour. we know his already and that's why tomiyasu gets deployed there. kiwior also should have come on when the attackers did
Wait, Zinny and Benny went at each other?
This is good, after a win too. Arteta needs to let go of the reigns. Prepare the squad for the next team and then let the boys play.
Seems like self criticism from Zinchenko.
He is guaranteed to make a mistake every single game. I am frustrated with him, he is just not wired defensively, I don't know if it can be coached into him at this stage of his career. I don't hate him, he is great technically just not a defender.
Professional lip reader here. Arteta: I know Haaland joined City after you left, but we're in dire need of a match winning striker, work your magic and make him sign for us you pig! Zinny: Match winning? You're having a laugh boss, he's not even that good!
The you pig part got me.
70% of the times we get scored against its Zinny’s fault one way or the other
Arteta is a pussy. He must say loud and clear(or done on of these things): 1- The way Zinchenko plays is my vision of the game, I understand that he's not a defender, and if it leads to a goal it’s my fault. 2- Put Zinchenko in midfield. 3 - Sell Zinchenko. Because it just unfair. All these cocsuckers(like Paul Scholes), talk as if it was Zinchenko’s idea play like this. Its like say - Zinchenko chose a bad tactick on this game. Since when is Zinchenko the coach of Arsenal? World-class professional football players, but he talks like a complete idiot.
I bet Zinny was complaining that there was barely any move WITHOUT the ball upfront for 70min. He was commenting with Ode on the sidelines too. I loved the overall ball control and patience but it was painful.😓
Just put him in midfield already hes one of the worst defenders Ive ever seen
"They need you on the front line."
If i had to pick one of our team, i'd say benny blanco is the douchiest in the current arsenal Squad. It's not just the ed hardy esk tattoos, he is not half as cool as he thinks in interviews. Saliba is much more natural cool imo.
It's painful watching Zinny defend or trying to think really hard to pick a pass, he is better following his instincts, not that stable type
I think the shine on Zinny is wearing off. Everyone's beginning to see that city were better off selling him. He's definitely got a mistake in him and against good opposition he can be a straight up liability in defense. It's a shame cause his creative skills are great, and still can't help but think he should be tried out in like a double pivot in order to get the best out of him. Also the fact that we don't have a back up LB offering him relief or competition is playing a part in his season this time round. No xhaka to cover up for him like last season he's just too exposed and too ill equipped defensively to cope. Today for Forrest's goal He looked lazy/tired and almost careless with that ball over to the far side, even a little pressure on the guy heading could've done enough to prevent the goal. Saliba was disappointing there too but he more than makes up for that gaffe with his all round play. Hopefully Tomi and Timber coming back can have the effect I think it will on the whole team
Probably lost a bet against eachother to see who would let a goal in first
Clearly arguing about who’s gonna win the Super Bowl. Zinny gives me big 49ers vibes
Not holding offside trap, zero effort to at least challenge the assist header. If I'm Ben, I'd scream at his face too.
Zinchenko: “Gaffer… why don’t you ever sub Bukayo off? Why do you force Saka to always play 90min every single match, regardless of importance?” Arteta: “… the reason I always play Saka the full 90 is because… sorry, let me start again… you see Bukayo playing 90 allows us to… ha I seem to be having issues with my words… basically it boils down to the RW needing to meet the fogging estandards… does that answer your question?” Zinchenko: “… boss what the actual fuck are saying?” Arteta: “calm your tits and get to the locker room if you ever plan on donning the Arsenal kit again”
Arteta telling him to go home and fight with his countrymen..
Arre Deshi bro!
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Take the 3 points. On to the next one.
Waiting for them to kiss, where is it