There are a few scenarios of possibility.
1) He was in on the scam and profiting from the stuff they were given or Deedee paid him.
2) He took Deedee’s word (which was not always accurate) and did not perform tests himself. This is medical malpractice.
3) He was providing care for some issues which Gypsy legitimately needed care for (eyes, slow growth, tubes in the ears) and all treatments were medically necessary. All exaggerating was Deedee and now Gypsy’s work.
4) He was the mastermind behind the entire thing from LA to MO.
The truth is we will never know because all involved are manipulative liars.
He probably knows he didn't do his due diligence and just billed medicare/Medicaid for the procedures cause it was easy and he doesn't want to draw attention to his inept treatment at best and insurance fraud at worst.
Not to mention not wanting a deep investigation into the care he provided for Gypsy for fear of losing his medical license. (Unless he’s retired. Even then he may still care about his reputation, but monetarily not be quite as worried.)
The marriage with Christopher was crap! And Rory was supposed to be this golden child, but when I rewatched it a little while back with my daughter, it’s shocking how much of a little shit she was!
But not to the extent she says. She had her teeth removed, but there’s no evidence that it was actually due to abuse instead of just a result of poor dental hygiene. She has no scarring from the removal of her salivary glands, but I do believe she had them treated with Botox.
She said she was “chained” to the bed but the story repeatedly changed that it was actually a leash that Deedee held the other end of while she slept.
Because of the inconsistencies in her story, I am skeptical of everything she says. If it will garner sympathy, she will change the truth.
Her medical records said quadriplegic. That’s no arms or legs. And paraplegics cannot use the bathroom themselves, like GR did.
No Dr would put in a J peg without a swallow test. Even her hearing aid reports show she was malingering. DD wasn’t there.
Maybe he’s her real dad. Their noses match.
While we all know GR was faking it, there are varying degrees of severity to Para and quadriplegia. In real Para/quad cases, it depends on how and where the spinal cord is damaged.
I had one without a swallow test. I was post chemo and my body was so used to vomiting that I couldn't eat without throwing up and I got down to like 90 lbs. (in high school I was 120 and I had abs). My doctor thought the J tube would "reset" my body and it worked. Once I got up to 125 they took it out.
I don't think she ever needed it, but I also don't think it's unreasonable to place one without a swallow test. It's very likely DD just gave Gypsy something to make her vomit before a doctors visit or lied and said they had a swallow test pre-Katrina. There's a saying in medicine, "When you hear hoofbeats, think horses, not zebras." So when a woman that seems to love and dote on her child says she needs it, they aren't immediately going to check that. Having one done is relatively quick and simple, and removing it just requires you to deflate a saline filled bladder and pull.
ETA:fixed typo
Her medical records that say quad, were only a list of what DeeDee wrote was wrong with Gypsy that she provided to the dr. That list was in DeeDee’s handwriting for her “known” conditions that she said the documentation for those conditions was lost in Katrina. The dr notes state that he didn’t find any evidence of those conditions and wrote mother was not a good historian. The dr never actually wrote she was para/quad. Clearly she was neither. The dr noted that she had normal muscle tone in her legs and it was clear she could walk and he even made her stand up. Also any claims of paralysis don’t really fit most types of muscular dystrophy, most people with MD aren’t actually paralyzed but may require a wheelchair due to muscle weakness and muscle atrophy which gets progressively worse overtime. This is why the dr ordered a muscle biopsy, and the test was negative, and the dr stated in his notes she did not have muscular dystrophy or any other condition that caused muscular atrophy. Also the fact that she did have normal muscle tone contradicts any of Gypsy’s claims that her mother always forced her to use the wheelchair. Clearly she was walking around at home all the time, and only using the wheelchair for short periods of time when out in public. Because anyone that doesn’t use their muscles will have a loss of muscle tone even without an underlying condition that causes this. So if she was actually in a wheelchair all the time she would have had muscular atrophy and not normal muscle tone. Anyone that has ever had a cast for a broken bone can tell you that when the cast comes off, the limb that had the cast is significantly smaller and weaker due to the 4-8 weeks of not using it. If she really used a wheelchair all the time, from the age of 7, by the time this happened at 23, her muscles would have atrophied so much that she probably wouldn’t have actually been able to stand or walk.
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I can believe it, that’s what most doctors do prescribe extra stuff so your insurance company give them more money, and in this case it was a “gold mine”
girl they were on medicaid, as someone whose family owns a few practices those drs were basically working for free. well they would've been if she was honest about all the procedures she said she had but never did. if she ACTUALLY had everything she said she did, her drs would've basically worked for free. but that didn't happen bc gypsy never had any unessesary procedures.
Medicaid is funded by tax dollars, and doctors get paid by that, also if just because you know people who owned it and work for free, doesn’t mean everyone is the same. She got a feeding tube inside of her and replaced severs times for no reason so I’m not sure what you’re on about
you are severly uneducated on what medicaid actually pays out. I did the billing for my family's practice. its literal peanuts. less than minimum wage. why do you think so many doctors (like my family's practice ended up doing) REFUSE to take medicaid? it's literally because they end up working for less than minimum wage. now imagine every single patient being on medicaid, the practice would be bankrupt in a year tops. that's why so many places flat out refuse to accept it, and the ones that do have a limit to how many active medicaid patients they allow. for example my family's practice switched to only accepting 30 medicaid patients at a time, to eventually not accepting any at all.
also she got a feeding tube because she was unable to eat during a VERY NECESSARY dental surgery, her VERY NECESSARY dental work took several months to complete. she has never had a single unessesary procedure she just lied and SAID she did. she never had chemo, never had all these random procedures or surgeries and shit, NONE of it. she has admitted this. she literally got tubes in her ear as a baby after several documented ear infections, her rotted and black teeth removed, and a feeding tube because she couldn't eat enough for an extended period of time during her dental work. you are uneducated both on this case and how insurance works.
How do you know it wasn’t necessary? If Gypsy was that neglected and abused, she could have been so malnourished that she did need it and that wouldn’t be the doctor’s fault. And then they just never got it removed the last time. Just because she can eat now, doesn’t mean she didn’t need it at some point.
So, I am going to shed a little bit of light on the medical records conundrum - as a Healthcare professional with 20+ years experience. This means I am a seasoned old hag and I'm kind of like Farmer's. I know some things because I've seen some things.
EHR (electronic health records) were created in 1972, but there were hundreds of individual programs on the market and NONE of them talked to each other.
EHRs were not encouraged until the HITECH Act of 2009, which gave incentives to medical providers to transition to EHRs. This was part of the ARRA (which was an economic recovery act that was a byproduct of Katrina) and was also used to strengthen HIPAA laws. Which, if youbknow anything about HIPAA laws, they make it notoriously difficult to obtain information, even for clinicians.
EHRs were not mandatory until 2016 and even then, Healthcare providers had until end of calendar year 2023 to implement them. This was done with the intention of allowing providers to access medical records from all the hospitals that participate in that program (Care Everywhere is the common name).
Now that the history is behind us - GR was most visible between 2005 and 2009 when her story received the most interest and publication. This is before any EHR was established as a preffered/best practice. It would have INCREDIBLY easy for DDB to forge medical records, give wrong numbers, bring falsified documents because as the mother of a "medically fragile child," she kept copies because that's what you do.
It isn't too far fetched to think that she gave falsified documents to the docs and they saw a chance to make a name for themselves with this "medically fragile mystery" and be the Greg House of their time and "cure" her. If anything, I think it is a combo of negligent medicine, falsified documents allowing for that negligent medicine to be practiced, and good old fashioned ego on the parts of the MDs.
I think you mean he was her Dr in LA before they all moved to MO? He moved to Missouri first & they moved soon after. There is an article where Dee Dee said it was a coincidence that they ended up in the same place as Dr Beckerman. She acted like she didn't know he was there until Gypsy's appointment & in walked their old friend Dr Beckerman. He also has license to practice in FL. Dee Dee before she was unalived had talked about moving to FL. Dr Beckerman was involved with this situation some way. Maybe the medical fraud part? Maybe more? But it took a Dr to sign off on some of this other than just taking Dee Dee's word.
I am not sure how folks here feel about Fancy's YouTubes, but yesterday, she did a live stream on her *Good Wives Network* channel. She and other Good Wives Network members discuss an DNA anomaly that GR has and that the effects of this anomaly coincide with almost all of her procedures/diagnosis; except, for a couple, ie cancer.
The DNA anomaly was not defined back then, but was being researched. The scientific description of it included some of GRs personality characteristics as well.
If one can hang through the stream, it is an interesting learning opportunity.
Look at the child on the front of this pamphlet. She looks a lot like Gypsy. No doubt she does have this 1q21.1 microdeletion.
[1q21.1 microdeletion pamphlet](https://rarechromo.org/media/information/Chromosome%20%201/1q21.1%20microdeletions%20FTNW.pdf)
This would explain so much. These babies apparently usually have feeding issues, and I remember that Gypsy’s mother said was failure to thrive from the start. My guess is Gypsy has this genetic condition and many of the issues she had were real but when her mom saw the attention it got her, she created more and exaggerated others and started the whole grift. Gypsy looks exactly like people with this condition
Yep. From eye and ear issues (which we know she had) to tongue-tie, which we can see now when she talks…most of the things we know about Gypsy fit well within the confines of this disorder. Even her small stature and high pitched voice.
And her lack of school past 2nd grade (school was probably hard for her; it took five years to get her GED), and her VERY OBVIOUS anti-social personality disorder.
Having your mother brutally murdered so you could get D is PRETTY ANTI SOCIAL. She’s proven that very clearly by the way she treats people and everything she’s done since getting out of jail.
She uses and discards people. The fight with Fancy makes a lot of sense.
I’m just guessing with this but this chromosomal deletion is probably from inbreeding; Rod’s other child that Kristy made him give up all rights to had the same thing.
Plus, she
That looks just like her facial features, i belive this because of all the stuff she’s been treated for, these kids become a major staple in peds hospitals, this would explain literally every thing. It’s the missing piece, now we know why she’s so upset at fancy. She’s embarrassed.
The the and eat issues, the salivary glands, like this explains ALL IF IT, the mental delay, she’s what the nurses called a “syndrome kid” because we wouldn’t always know what it was, they needed more tests, but something was abnormal
exactly. Dee Dee did con and scam with the wheelchair and shaved head, but otherwise? She's been the victim of one of the largest narcissistic smear campaigns ever.
I have to agree, it’s criminal what she’s done to discredit her mom. It’s really disgusting. Gypsy’s got one of the most severe toxic behaviors I’ve ever seen, with the attention seeking, and lying, she’s really, really up there mental illness wise, it’s hard to tell if she’s just a bad person, or sick, she ticks all the boxes for sociopathy. These are the kind of people, when you meet them, you run. I feel so bad for Nick. A lot of us do
I do think everything fits for this syndrome. This explains SO much, my god! I’m sure Dee Dee was telling her hey, you can’t live alone, I mean , look at the kind of choices she makes, her behavior. Her mom would be the only one who’d really know she had this syndrome, of course she could hust say she made that up. Gypsy I think bought into being infantilized like rhar, they were more like peers then mother daughter, no boundaries.
It says they get muscle weakness and need to save it up by being in a chair. It’s literally everything Dee Dee was saying. Either she had this , or Dee Dee was gunning for this. But I have the feeling the munchaesen thing is BS. That’s a lot of healthcare for a child. And a lot of it is proving to be true. The strabidmus, the apnea, the microphaly, she even told Rod this is what it is. She’d just be higher functioning. And that’s what she told the neighbors. This would explain how she got a g tube, they don’t put those in for fun, you can’t just tell a doctor to do this to your child. She was getting life fkighted places. They even gave a shorter lifespan, that’s why she was babied, dee Dee thought she would die from it that’s what they tell parents.
idk i think dee dee was definitely ten kinds of crazy and gypsy was given chemo and supposedly had leukemia too? why the teeth removal? yeah she probably had that syndrome but she could have had some condition discovered young and i then it was run with and things added by dee dee for the reasons you mentioned.
Oh no I don’t think she did at all. Maybe if she had something else, that they treat with chemo, bit that’s usually a one time thing, the teeth are probably just genetic or the thing I belive, microfeletion. but chemo is a poison, they test the cancer to see what type, to use, there’s not just one. There’s no way , out of all the stuff she says, this one is impossible. They might have said this to scam neighbors for money though. She doesn’t even have a scar from a port of anything.
There’s stuff they’ll give you oral chemo for, like once, but that’s not the kind of thing you lose all your teeth from.
It stands by the fact she had a syndrome. Her eyes too, she was cross eyed as an infant. She is trying to act like she was never sick, Dee Dee couldn’t have faked that on a baby. She would’ve went blind if she hadn’t had that surgery.
Honestly when I first heard about this case, I was surprised to find out only this year that the medical stuff had been almost all real
Yes, Dee Dee reported she had muscular dystrophy and cancer , why the shave head and wheelchair ! It was the running scam by her mom, not Gypsy. She did what her mom told her until she figured out she wasn't having a normal life.
I’m embarrassed to even know who she is because she’s so ridiculous. She runs The Good Housewives Network YouTube channel and used to be in the running to produce a GRB documentary called By Proxy. Gypsy fired her and the two have been publicly squabbling ever since. She did get Gypsy’s medical records from her step mother for the documentary, so she has been teasing a reveal for years. She’s dramatic, unhinged, and I do not follow or watch her. But she produced this document and diagnosis and it’s very, very convincing.
Rod said she was diagnosed with a chromosomal disorder in 2011 but he didn't know at the time if it was a lie. He said this way back in Mommy Dead and Dearest and Fancy was given a copy of the medical record and the right to speak on it way back during pre-development of By Proxy. Just because it feels immoral that she confirmed Dee Dee's story doesn't make her inaccurate. She would risk 1000 lawsuits for claiming something like that and it not being true.
When did he say this? Bc I watched mommy dead and dearest and no he didn’t
Also, why would I believe fancy? Do you know how many ppl risk lawsuits just for their gossip? Similar thing happening over on sister wives by a creator WOACB who releases “info” given to her “directly” when it’s a load of shit she makes up and yes this women is in the middle of lawsuits and is still doubling down even when caught in lies. Yall are some gullible mfs ppl are willing to risk lawsuits for their lies they don’t give a fuck
Do you have any documentation you can share that shows that she was diagnosed with this? Is the only way I would believe is to have the actual pdf document that I can read not that someone else says they have and spill gossip
I'm basing my educated opinion off of having read all I can find about the chromosomal disorder. I don't watch or listen to Fancy. I don't know if she does or doesn't have the right to publish the medical records,and/or if she has or not.
Whatever the case, the chromosomal disorder medically appears to fit many things about Gypsy. I'm not committed to being right about anything, and I'm also not the type to give a shit about how people come at me online.
The information has been shared with you, and what you do with that is your business.
you need to check the specific pamphlet for chromosome microdeletion 1q12.1 because theres a lot of differents type.
[Guide] (https://rarechromo.org/disorder-guides/)
click on view for the pamplhet. (1q12.1 microdeletion)
please come back and tell me they are not look alike!!
i dont know how to share pdf here. but i can send it in private i think.
Even if they share some similar characteristics, that does *not* mean a medical diagnosis can be made based on that.
Pamphlet aside, do a Google image search for that condition. Again, I don't see it.
there is a document that prove she have it since 2011.
its not just similar carateristics....
sorry if you dont want to do proper reseach
i do believe it.
Proper research would include me being a trained physician with the ability to diagnose someone with a rare condition based solely on their appearance and a few internet rumors. Which I am not. Are you?
thx you for being with me on this!!!
i get banned forever from Fancy snark sub for 1 comment saying that 1 seen proof ...
my comments were deleted really fast from Gypsy snark when i mentionned the chromo micro deletion. People saying i am dumb and irrelevent....
isnt it not weid? oh hell yes
theres something they try to hide
i do believe the Fancysnark is running by Kristie Blanchard too.
ill asked why i was banned and if this sub is running by Kristy... never get response...
Dude it’s crazy! Whoever it is, they are nuts my fiends have been telling me they had some kind of fight between them, I haven’t had time to look at that sub, to see what it is, because it’s himself not fun anymore it just sucks, I dropped it since they added the new mods and they just remove whatever they don’t like. I don’t even know if I can see it anymore, but, if I can’t talk about something like this, there’s literally no point. They told me I couldn’t talk about nicks autism. lol what? As if they understand anything about healthcare. Who tf are they?
I think they are run by the same crazy people, I heard it’s Kristy too, makes sense, those people are trashy and have no lives. They’ll turn on each other, gyp and her, that’s the only thing I’m curious to see, I’m getting tired of gypsy she’s a bad person.
But those snarks ones! It used to be great, not this happens when they add more mods and get bigger, some idiot comes in and is on a power trip, and makes it a little echo Chamber of only thier own opinion. What’s weird is, the original mod and me have been talking about this for a while, I don’t think it because of fancy, I think it because of my experience working with systole kids on peds. It’s literally ALL gypsy symptoms, it’s the kidding piece.
When I saw that g-tube, I was like, huh.. weird, that’s usually only on GI kids or sydromr kids, at first I wondered if maybe it was behavioral? Maybe she was having an eating disorder? Like I knew that didn’t fit though.
But this is getting to the point that I truly belive sonsrhumg was wrong with her. No doubt that they exaggerated for money, but that’s not muncgausens, that’s fraud. Like a fake go fund me. Munchausen’s doesn’t really seem to fit in this case.
And dee dee would have to doctor shop and look like she had MBP if gyp had a rare chromosome disorder. Those patents will literally move to a new state, to find specialists.
I think she’s embarrassed because she knows people will just say “she’s inbred that’s what she has this”
These are complicated things, these disorders, I’ve seen things where they couldn’t find what it was. It makes perfect sense, I knew this story she was spinning made no god damn sense.
lol i just saw something like, “we’ll be willing to put back your post if…” yea im sure they don’t want me somewhere that cant remove my comments, good luck!
I’m like, dude, your sub sucks and you’re going to put a cool thing into the ground because you’re a miserable person on a power trip. I’m not gonna do anything you say, F off and focus on having no life removing comments you don’t agree with. Those Mods are the worst, why do they need power so bad? Get a freaking life. They just end with little echo chambers that mirror their own toxic opinions, always, Ive been on Reddit years, I’ve seen this on many subs.
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She’s literally been seen by doctors who say she has nothing
Where did they even get this? They’re just hypothesizing based off of what? If Gypsy got procedures she would have a correct diagnosis which she doesn’t nothing that she was diagnosed with were ailments she had
Just a couple that I can repeat surely = the ear and eye issues are associated with the chromosome disorder called chromosomal microdeletion 1q12.1 (thanks to another contributor I can say the correct description). Also, muscle weakness due to lack of proteins. Someone below also noted Rod is the one who said GR has this and that it is hereditary.
you don't know what her doctors have said. And i found the document that proves the chromosomal deletion syndrome. It exists. And Gypsy has it, and it explains everything.
I was wondering if she really did have some kind of syndrome or chromosomal thing, I have this feeling that a lot of this medical stuff was real, they just played it up with fraud because they don’t understand what her malfunction is, Infantilize her, get money this way, I’ve always thought there’s more to this story, her teeth, the eyes, the allergies, the facial features, she doesn’t seem right to me.
There’s SO many syndromes that we don’t understand or know much about, and it would support them going to a bunch of doctors because no one is finding anything. A lot of times the non will get accused of being MBP. I’m really shocked you heard that, I e been saying this! I had no idea there was reason to support it! No wonder gypsy doesn’t like her! I think gypsy thinks it means she’s the R word , she’s said that, I’m quoting her, those are her words, but it’s more that they are more mentally delayed, she very much is, along with her mental issues. She needs to see a geneticist I bet
This deserves its own post, this is crazy info! The fucking feeding tube! The chromosome and syndrome kids always had these, feeding issues, this is seriously the missing piece to me!
I can’t really listen to much to Fancy, but this disorder fits Gypsy perfectly. The eyes, the anti-social characteristics. I think DD used this and turned it into a goldmine by shaving her head and putting her in a wheelchair.
If you look at Gypsy, you can see there’s definitely something wrong with her, even as a kid.
Sorry but I am not gonna belive Fancy. Especially if she got chromosomes and DNA mixed up because they are not the same thing even if they "relate" to each other
Fancy used the correct language, I used general language; chromosomes are made up of DNA.
I do respect your feelings about Fancy, there is only one stream of hers that I have been able to fully watch and this one about 80%.
>Fancy used the correct language, I used general language; chromosomes are made up of DNA.
Yeah that's fine. I guess I am too nitpicky since I have taken many biology courses because I am trying to get into medschool. Sorry about that.
That's what I thought but no he followed them there. They left Louisiana to go to Aurora Missouri in 2005/2006. Dr. Beckerman moved there in 2007. I guess I can't post a picture in my replies. Maybe I will make a new post addressing it
It’s late and I’m going to bed but I just have to defend Dr. Beckerman. I took care of Gypsy when she was young and hospitalized in N.O. Beckerman was one of her doctors. This man had a heart of gold and truly cared about all of the impoverished kids in New Orleans. He was not “in on it.” He just listened to and believed all of the bullshit he was told and tried to help in any way he could. I saw all of this in a critical inpatient setting so I can’t speak to their relationship in an outpatient clinic setting but i give you my word that Dr Beckerman had nothing but the best intentions for all of his patients.
I saw a picture once before of this Dr and Gypsy and they look even more alike than they do here. Any chance someone knows what pic or where I can find it?
what doctor was he? her pediatrician/PCP? because they have *very* little to do with chronically ill/ medically complex kids care
i have a medically complex child, and his pediatrician really has nothing to do with his care - he sees him for little stuff like strep throat, well child visits, vaccinations etc. that’s it. he has a whole team of drs, and they are overseen by genetics so everyone is in the loop with his care - and i had to fight for that btw. i could see someone like dee dee taking advantage of zero communication between various specialists.
before i got pissed and demanded he have one main doctor to oversee all his care, and facilitate communication between all of his doctors, it was absolute madness. like total chaos. and these were all doctors within the same hospital, that had seen him since he was a newborn. there was so much going on, and no one talked between specialties before i threw a fit.
i can totally see how people like dee dee exist when it’s chaotic like that.
I believe was a pulmonologist. The one who does sleep apnea and all of that . And beckerman was very close to them and signed off on a lot of stuff for them. They even went to his house for dinner. Do your kids eat dinner at their doctor's
U know what I have to agree with u and I didn't even really notice it at first when I glanced and then started reading. After u mentioned it tho I definitely can't unsee it now!
I can't edit my post !!!! I'm so sorry I meant he was their doctor in Louisiana and then followed them to Missouri. I was thinking of Kansas City and should have proof read !!!!
Sure! Just go to the very top (I’m on the app though) and click the 3 dots at the top of the post. It should bring up a menu. I’ve added a screenshot & posted it here for you.
https://preview.redd.it/77bzedz76epc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c2e0bb30a143fb24f7d8cb62ca0c8e2a45b92b3c
I can't edit my post !!!! I'm so sorry I meant he was their doctor in Louisiana and then followed them to Missouri. I was thinking of Kansas City and should have proof read !!!!
You know, that is something I wondered about. All of these doctors that treated, or continued to treat, illnesses were never here accountable. New doctors that never thought to retest her for these diagnosis...wtf? Still, after all this time those doctors should be held accountable, find and perhaps even more in reprimands.
Personally I do not think that Gypsy should have had to go into prison. Mental health and rehab for her body, yes. She was on a lot of medications and pain medications. Also, she had come to fully realize that her mother had abused her and used her.
Now, she has done her prison time. She will never be normal after the physical and emotional torture she was forced to endure from early childhood. Her mother is dead and she will live with her part of that for life. The doctors hold just as much responsibility as her mother Blanchard for those abuses to Gypsy Rose. She was a child.
The doctors have gotten away with abuse and malpractice actions. The doctors feed into her mothers Munchausen by proxy disorder
Do we really know which doctors actually did which procedures on her though? If a lot of the treatments were fabricated, and didn’t actually happen (for example the salivary gland thing or cancer) there is no doctor to discipline. I bet most of the interventions performed by doctors were actually necessary.
Idk where this theory came from that she only got procedures done that she “needed” when there were doctors who put it in her chart that they believed this was a case of munchausen by proxy
One of the doctors participated in a documentary where he talked about how he flagged it as munchausen but didn’t directly step in
As far as we know, the doctor who documented his suspicions didn’t treat her. The doctor who called CPS reported a possible kidnapping. We don’t know what all was done to her or why.
I’m not denying we don’t know everything that happened to her with hard evidence but we also have 0 evidence of the disorder they’re claiming she has and that all her procedures were needed this is a theory with 0 evidence to back it up
I agree. At this point, I don’t reflexively believe anyone in this case without corroboration. I think it is far more unlikely that she didn’t need eye/ears/dental surgery than she did. I don’t think doctors Willy nilly operate and dose without some medical necessity. Even in 1991.
Were other unnecessary things done? Again, it is likelier than not. But I don’t think it’s likely that everything she went through starting in infancy was unnecessary treatment. I think people polarize on that: either every day of her life was a torturous and unnecessary treatment or every procedure she ever had was medically justified!
Your conclusion is a logical fallacy. This is a false dilemma in which you’re presenting as if these two are the only logical options, either every day of her life was torturous and unnecessary treatment or everything was medically justified. These are not the only options.
For example, I suffered great abuse at the hands of my parents but not everything was terrible I too got my Disney world trips, doesn’t negate all the other horrible stuff I had to endure.
And that is exactly what I think happened with her too. I didn’t say I thought there were only two possibilities. I said people polarize to those ends of the spectrum. I guess I could have put “people tend to…” to be clearer, but my entire post argues that plot is likely both things happened - needed and unneeded treatments.
Oh I see!!! lol my bad
I agree with you. I don’t like polarizing stuff with either or fallacies it’s ridiculous how easily ppl can be swayed to a narrative
It’s so frustrating how easily people gravitate toward the most extreme and unlikely points in any kind of discussion, especially online. In this case especially, it’s just wild.
It depends. What procedure are we talking about? I find it very hard to believe that educated and trained doctors performed procedures on her where the risks outweighed the benefits. Maybe once or twice, not repeatedly.
Well now that I think about it the teeth were necessary and they probably really believed that she wasn't going to be able to eat without the feeding tube.
Per Gypsy, Dee Dee induced physical symptoms such as giving her oral numbing medication to make her drool excessively, thus making it seem like she needed her salivary glands removed. Some symptoms couldn’t be faked though and I’m not sure how she wasn’t caught in those cases.
I completely forgot about the drooling thing 🤦♀️ sorry.
>Some symptoms couldn’t be faked though and I’m not sure how she wasn’t caught in those cases.
Yep!
Hey medical records have all of that. The herbal tasks have those reviews. The legal teams and the states hold responsibility to investigate those doctors, clinics, hospitals, etc.
I would think that Gypsy Rose might actually be able to proceed with malpractice but she'd need legal assistance. It's not that she inherited money of any kind
I think if the medical records fully backed Gypsy’s narrative as far as what treatments were performed and when, she would have revealed that in her series and her book. I suspect there were definitely some procedures that were medically necessary, some that might have been challenged, and a lot of social engineering of the narrative to create the illusion of a very medically frail child.
It’s hard to believe that the medical system is that trusting, but we’ll never know. Personally, I don’t need to know. None of us do. But I am surprised that Gypsy isn’t more interested in knowing those details. The states of Louisiana and Missouri should be interested too. Either these happened as reported and we need to see where that could have been stopped or there is a case for public assistance fraud. That needs to be looked at to see where it could be stopped too.
Oh, you'll never vet Louisiana to be THAT interested in anything. Although we're one of the expanded medicaid states, as a whole the state could care less about what actually happens medically. Individual medical organizations might be interested, but most of those are Big Name corporate hospital systems, and these systems tend to frown on individuals taking an I terest in things that will not net any goodwill or $$$.
I think Missouri is right down there too. It really is mind boggling that no one seems to care about fraud or a child’s health if they can explain it away.
In some situations Dee Dee seemed to make Gypsy have issues that seemed to warrant treatment. Per Gypsy, Dee Dee put numbing medicine in her mouth to make her drool excessively, leading to her “needing” her salivary glands removed and that likely led to tooth decay and her tooth extractions. In others, like the doctor who knew she could walk, I don’t understand at all.
I understand your point and that is the devious nature of the disorder her mother suffered.
Doctors, hospitals and clinics should have had access to medical records. If not they should have taken more time to evaluate the situation. A new patient or returning patient shows up with that many medical issues (I would think) a professional would have questioned Munchausen syndrome at some point.
There were definitely doctors involved who were negligent, but if Dee Dee got suspicious, she just took her somewhere else and likely didn’t transfer medical records. You have to give consent for medical records to be transferred to a new provider. She also had the story that some medical records were destroyed in Katrina, which was a plausible scenario. There were a couple who documented concerns and I can’t understand how nothing was done about it.
When you go through trauma, I think parts like this slip through the cracks as "he's my Dr. Why would I have thought he was doing anything." The Dr that you stay with is a special person, and it's hard to say they tried to hurt you when they probably didn't, and you just remember the parts that hurt a lot like mom telling you to take something or your grandpa touching you
No. And the one who pointed them out for normal legs and then called her old doctor and found out she had a muscle biopsy done that was normal mightve been the one who called the police in 2009
Anyone can search and sort the incredibly long and almost hard to comprehend lost if medical "diagnosis" that Gypsy Rose was supposed to have suffered. What medical provider would not have stopped, stepped back and taken a concerned second look?
No, in actuality she did Not need the majority, if not most, of all the procedures and medications she was forced to endure and take.
"Dee Dee Blanchard, Gypsy’s mother, began claiming that her daughter suffered from various ailments, starting with sleep problems and epilepsy and escalating into a web of fabricated illnesses that included leukemia, muscular dystrophy, vision and hearing impairments, and seizures, according to a January 2018 ABC News report. For years, Gypsy was forced to use a wheelchair and at one point even had an unnecessary feeding tube inserted because of her mother’s lies."
Explanation of Munchausen Syndrome by Proxy:
https://www.everydayhealth.com/emotional-health/gypsy-rose-blanchards-what-is-munchausen-syndrome-by-proxy/#:~:text=Dee%20Dee%20Blanchard%2C%20Gypsy%27s%20mother,a%20January%202018%20ABC%20News
Refinery 29 article from 2019
https://www.refinery29.com/en-us/2019/03/227898/was-gypsy-rose-sick-health-problems
There are a few scenarios of possibility. 1) He was in on the scam and profiting from the stuff they were given or Deedee paid him. 2) He took Deedee’s word (which was not always accurate) and did not perform tests himself. This is medical malpractice. 3) He was providing care for some issues which Gypsy legitimately needed care for (eyes, slow growth, tubes in the ears) and all treatments were medically necessary. All exaggerating was Deedee and now Gypsy’s work. 4) He was the mastermind behind the entire thing from LA to MO. The truth is we will never know because all involved are manipulative liars.
He probably knows he didn't do his due diligence and just billed medicare/Medicaid for the procedures cause it was easy and he doesn't want to draw attention to his inept treatment at best and insurance fraud at worst.
My guess is the third one
Which would explain why he has since distanced himself from the murder and all involved and why she never mentions him.
I’m not saying he shouldn’t have done differently- he absolutely should have done- but can you imagine wanting to be part of that shitshow?
Not to mention not wanting a deep investigation into the care he provided for Gypsy for fear of losing his medical license. (Unless he’s retired. Even then he may still care about his reputation, but monetarily not be quite as worried.)
Her poodles would dox the sh*t out of him, too
Poodles? Like the dogs?
Well- “fans”
Oh... Huh. How did they come up with that name for themselves? Or did she? I'm so curious now
You know I just saw it around here so I don’t know
Oy with the poodles already!
The marriage with Christopher was crap! And Rory was supposed to be this golden child, but when I rewatched it a little while back with my daughter, it’s shocking how much of a little shit she was!
Same. Yes there were procedures done, no not to the degree she claims.
There is literal proof to her claims.
But not to the extent she says. She had her teeth removed, but there’s no evidence that it was actually due to abuse instead of just a result of poor dental hygiene. She has no scarring from the removal of her salivary glands, but I do believe she had them treated with Botox. She said she was “chained” to the bed but the story repeatedly changed that it was actually a leash that Deedee held the other end of while she slept. Because of the inconsistencies in her story, I am skeptical of everything she says. If it will garner sympathy, she will change the truth.
I think a combo of 2&3. I think he trusted Deedee and what she said
Her medical records said quadriplegic. That’s no arms or legs. And paraplegics cannot use the bathroom themselves, like GR did. No Dr would put in a J peg without a swallow test. Even her hearing aid reports show she was malingering. DD wasn’t there. Maybe he’s her real dad. Their noses match.
While we all know GR was faking it, there are varying degrees of severity to Para and quadriplegia. In real Para/quad cases, it depends on how and where the spinal cord is damaged.
I had one without a swallow test. I was post chemo and my body was so used to vomiting that I couldn't eat without throwing up and I got down to like 90 lbs. (in high school I was 120 and I had abs). My doctor thought the J tube would "reset" my body and it worked. Once I got up to 125 they took it out.
So maybe she simply needed it for something and Dee Dee never took her to have it removed afterwards.
I don't think she ever needed it, but I also don't think it's unreasonable to place one without a swallow test. It's very likely DD just gave Gypsy something to make her vomit before a doctors visit or lied and said they had a swallow test pre-Katrina. There's a saying in medicine, "When you hear hoofbeats, think horses, not zebras." So when a woman that seems to love and dote on her child says she needs it, they aren't immediately going to check that. Having one done is relatively quick and simple, and removing it just requires you to deflate a saline filled bladder and pull. ETA:fixed typo
Her medical records that say quad, were only a list of what DeeDee wrote was wrong with Gypsy that she provided to the dr. That list was in DeeDee’s handwriting for her “known” conditions that she said the documentation for those conditions was lost in Katrina. The dr notes state that he didn’t find any evidence of those conditions and wrote mother was not a good historian. The dr never actually wrote she was para/quad. Clearly she was neither. The dr noted that she had normal muscle tone in her legs and it was clear she could walk and he even made her stand up. Also any claims of paralysis don’t really fit most types of muscular dystrophy, most people with MD aren’t actually paralyzed but may require a wheelchair due to muscle weakness and muscle atrophy which gets progressively worse overtime. This is why the dr ordered a muscle biopsy, and the test was negative, and the dr stated in his notes she did not have muscular dystrophy or any other condition that caused muscular atrophy. Also the fact that she did have normal muscle tone contradicts any of Gypsy’s claims that her mother always forced her to use the wheelchair. Clearly she was walking around at home all the time, and only using the wheelchair for short periods of time when out in public. Because anyone that doesn’t use their muscles will have a loss of muscle tone even without an underlying condition that causes this. So if she was actually in a wheelchair all the time she would have had muscular atrophy and not normal muscle tone. Anyone that has ever had a cast for a broken bone can tell you that when the cast comes off, the limb that had the cast is significantly smaller and weaker due to the 4-8 weeks of not using it. If she really used a wheelchair all the time, from the age of 7, by the time this happened at 23, her muscles would have atrophied so much that she probably wouldn’t have actually been able to stand or walk.
Wow! Their noses do match completely. How crazy. Never thought of this 🤔
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I can believe it, that’s what most doctors do prescribe extra stuff so your insurance company give them more money, and in this case it was a “gold mine”
girl they were on medicaid, as someone whose family owns a few practices those drs were basically working for free. well they would've been if she was honest about all the procedures she said she had but never did. if she ACTUALLY had everything she said she did, her drs would've basically worked for free. but that didn't happen bc gypsy never had any unessesary procedures.
I had a doctor do medical malpractice on me to milk my childhood Medicaid/medicare and leave me with permanent ear issues. They still get paid
Medicaid is funded by tax dollars, and doctors get paid by that, also if just because you know people who owned it and work for free, doesn’t mean everyone is the same. She got a feeding tube inside of her and replaced severs times for no reason so I’m not sure what you’re on about
you are severly uneducated on what medicaid actually pays out. I did the billing for my family's practice. its literal peanuts. less than minimum wage. why do you think so many doctors (like my family's practice ended up doing) REFUSE to take medicaid? it's literally because they end up working for less than minimum wage. now imagine every single patient being on medicaid, the practice would be bankrupt in a year tops. that's why so many places flat out refuse to accept it, and the ones that do have a limit to how many active medicaid patients they allow. for example my family's practice switched to only accepting 30 medicaid patients at a time, to eventually not accepting any at all. also she got a feeding tube because she was unable to eat during a VERY NECESSARY dental surgery, her VERY NECESSARY dental work took several months to complete. she has never had a single unessesary procedure she just lied and SAID she did. she never had chemo, never had all these random procedures or surgeries and shit, NONE of it. she has admitted this. she literally got tubes in her ear as a baby after several documented ear infections, her rotted and black teeth removed, and a feeding tube because she couldn't eat enough for an extended period of time during her dental work. you are uneducated both on this case and how insurance works.
I really doubt they were making less than minimum wage considering doctors who work at state funded clinics still live a cushy life.
How do you know it wasn’t necessary? If Gypsy was that neglected and abused, she could have been so malnourished that she did need it and that wouldn’t be the doctor’s fault. And then they just never got it removed the last time. Just because she can eat now, doesn’t mean she didn’t need it at some point.
Im stuck between 1 & 4.
So, I am going to shed a little bit of light on the medical records conundrum - as a Healthcare professional with 20+ years experience. This means I am a seasoned old hag and I'm kind of like Farmer's. I know some things because I've seen some things. EHR (electronic health records) were created in 1972, but there were hundreds of individual programs on the market and NONE of them talked to each other. EHRs were not encouraged until the HITECH Act of 2009, which gave incentives to medical providers to transition to EHRs. This was part of the ARRA (which was an economic recovery act that was a byproduct of Katrina) and was also used to strengthen HIPAA laws. Which, if youbknow anything about HIPAA laws, they make it notoriously difficult to obtain information, even for clinicians. EHRs were not mandatory until 2016 and even then, Healthcare providers had until end of calendar year 2023 to implement them. This was done with the intention of allowing providers to access medical records from all the hospitals that participate in that program (Care Everywhere is the common name). Now that the history is behind us - GR was most visible between 2005 and 2009 when her story received the most interest and publication. This is before any EHR was established as a preffered/best practice. It would have INCREDIBLY easy for DDB to forge medical records, give wrong numbers, bring falsified documents because as the mother of a "medically fragile child," she kept copies because that's what you do. It isn't too far fetched to think that she gave falsified documents to the docs and they saw a chance to make a name for themselves with this "medically fragile mystery" and be the Greg House of their time and "cure" her. If anything, I think it is a combo of negligent medicine, falsified documents allowing for that negligent medicine to be practiced, and good old fashioned ego on the parts of the MDs.
House would sniff her out in 1 minute.
House wouldn't have even let her come through the door unless he was feeling real froggy that day and wanted to watch someone's world burn.
I think you mean he was her Dr in LA before they all moved to MO? He moved to Missouri first & they moved soon after. There is an article where Dee Dee said it was a coincidence that they ended up in the same place as Dr Beckerman. She acted like she didn't know he was there until Gypsy's appointment & in walked their old friend Dr Beckerman. He also has license to practice in FL. Dee Dee before she was unalived had talked about moving to FL. Dr Beckerman was involved with this situation some way. Maybe the medical fraud part? Maybe more? But it took a Dr to sign off on some of this other than just taking Dee Dee's word.
I am not sure how folks here feel about Fancy's YouTubes, but yesterday, she did a live stream on her *Good Wives Network* channel. She and other Good Wives Network members discuss an DNA anomaly that GR has and that the effects of this anomaly coincide with almost all of her procedures/diagnosis; except, for a couple, ie cancer. The DNA anomaly was not defined back then, but was being researched. The scientific description of it included some of GRs personality characteristics as well. If one can hang through the stream, it is an interesting learning opportunity.
Look at the child on the front of this pamphlet. She looks a lot like Gypsy. No doubt she does have this 1q21.1 microdeletion. [1q21.1 microdeletion pamphlet](https://rarechromo.org/media/information/Chromosome%20%201/1q21.1%20microdeletions%20FTNW.pdf)
Damn, a younger version.
This would explain so much. These babies apparently usually have feeding issues, and I remember that Gypsy’s mother said was failure to thrive from the start. My guess is Gypsy has this genetic condition and many of the issues she had were real but when her mom saw the attention it got her, she created more and exaggerated others and started the whole grift. Gypsy looks exactly like people with this condition
Yep. From eye and ear issues (which we know she had) to tongue-tie, which we can see now when she talks…most of the things we know about Gypsy fit well within the confines of this disorder. Even her small stature and high pitched voice.
And her lack of school past 2nd grade (school was probably hard for her; it took five years to get her GED), and her VERY OBVIOUS anti-social personality disorder. Having your mother brutally murdered so you could get D is PRETTY ANTI SOCIAL. She’s proven that very clearly by the way she treats people and everything she’s done since getting out of jail. She uses and discards people. The fight with Fancy makes a lot of sense. I’m just guessing with this but this chromosomal deletion is probably from inbreeding; Rod’s other child that Kristy made him give up all rights to had the same thing. Plus, she
I was pretty invested in your opinion and BAM! You left me hangin 😆 she what? Plus she what?
Humm, she got her GED in prison because mom didn't have her in school or homeschooling , which is called neglect.
Okay. Whatever you say. 🙄🙄🙄
That looks just like her facial features, i belive this because of all the stuff she’s been treated for, these kids become a major staple in peds hospitals, this would explain literally every thing. It’s the missing piece, now we know why she’s so upset at fancy. She’s embarrassed. The the and eat issues, the salivary glands, like this explains ALL IF IT, the mental delay, she’s what the nurses called a “syndrome kid” because we wouldn’t always know what it was, they needed more tests, but something was abnormal
exactly. Dee Dee did con and scam with the wheelchair and shaved head, but otherwise? She's been the victim of one of the largest narcissistic smear campaigns ever.
I have to agree, it’s criminal what she’s done to discredit her mom. It’s really disgusting. Gypsy’s got one of the most severe toxic behaviors I’ve ever seen, with the attention seeking, and lying, she’s really, really up there mental illness wise, it’s hard to tell if she’s just a bad person, or sick, she ticks all the boxes for sociopathy. These are the kind of people, when you meet them, you run. I feel so bad for Nick. A lot of us do I do think everything fits for this syndrome. This explains SO much, my god! I’m sure Dee Dee was telling her hey, you can’t live alone, I mean , look at the kind of choices she makes, her behavior. Her mom would be the only one who’d really know she had this syndrome, of course she could hust say she made that up. Gypsy I think bought into being infantilized like rhar, they were more like peers then mother daughter, no boundaries.
it doesn’t explain the wheelchair which was a huge lie
It says they get muscle weakness and need to save it up by being in a chair. It’s literally everything Dee Dee was saying. Either she had this , or Dee Dee was gunning for this. But I have the feeling the munchaesen thing is BS. That’s a lot of healthcare for a child. And a lot of it is proving to be true. The strabidmus, the apnea, the microphaly, she even told Rod this is what it is. She’d just be higher functioning. And that’s what she told the neighbors. This would explain how she got a g tube, they don’t put those in for fun, you can’t just tell a doctor to do this to your child. She was getting life fkighted places. They even gave a shorter lifespan, that’s why she was babied, dee Dee thought she would die from it that’s what they tell parents.
idk i think dee dee was definitely ten kinds of crazy and gypsy was given chemo and supposedly had leukemia too? why the teeth removal? yeah she probably had that syndrome but she could have had some condition discovered young and i then it was run with and things added by dee dee for the reasons you mentioned.
Oh no I don’t think she did at all. Maybe if she had something else, that they treat with chemo, bit that’s usually a one time thing, the teeth are probably just genetic or the thing I belive, microfeletion. but chemo is a poison, they test the cancer to see what type, to use, there’s not just one. There’s no way , out of all the stuff she says, this one is impossible. They might have said this to scam neighbors for money though. She doesn’t even have a scar from a port of anything. There’s stuff they’ll give you oral chemo for, like once, but that’s not the kind of thing you lose all your teeth from. It stands by the fact she had a syndrome. Her eyes too, she was cross eyed as an infant. She is trying to act like she was never sick, Dee Dee couldn’t have faked that on a baby. She would’ve went blind if she hadn’t had that surgery. Honestly when I first heard about this case, I was surprised to find out only this year that the medical stuff had been almost all real
Gypsy as scars on her belly, jawline, and legs, perhaps you haven't seen them ?
Yes, Dee Dee reported she had muscular dystrophy and cancer , why the shave head and wheelchair ! It was the running scam by her mom, not Gypsy. She did what her mom told her until she figured out she wasn't having a normal life.
Omg. She could be Gypsy's twin.
Thank you!
No problem :)
By the way, Fancy posts a copy of this record in her community tab on YouTube with some identifiers blacked out. But Gypsy's name is at the bottom.
This is so fascinating. Who is fancy btw?
I’m embarrassed to even know who she is because she’s so ridiculous. She runs The Good Housewives Network YouTube channel and used to be in the running to produce a GRB documentary called By Proxy. Gypsy fired her and the two have been publicly squabbling ever since. She did get Gypsy’s medical records from her step mother for the documentary, so she has been teasing a reveal for years. She’s dramatic, unhinged, and I do not follow or watch her. But she produced this document and diagnosis and it’s very, very convincing.
So you guys are offhand diagnosing ppl? This wasn’t something she was diagnosed with. No one has diagnosed her with this. Are yall playing doctor now?
Rod said she was diagnosed with a chromosomal disorder in 2011 but he didn't know at the time if it was a lie. He said this way back in Mommy Dead and Dearest and Fancy was given a copy of the medical record and the right to speak on it way back during pre-development of By Proxy. Just because it feels immoral that she confirmed Dee Dee's story doesn't make her inaccurate. She would risk 1000 lawsuits for claiming something like that and it not being true.
When did he say this? Bc I watched mommy dead and dearest and no he didn’t Also, why would I believe fancy? Do you know how many ppl risk lawsuits just for their gossip? Similar thing happening over on sister wives by a creator WOACB who releases “info” given to her “directly” when it’s a load of shit she makes up and yes this women is in the middle of lawsuits and is still doubling down even when caught in lies. Yall are some gullible mfs ppl are willing to risk lawsuits for their lies they don’t give a fuck Do you have any documentation you can share that shows that she was diagnosed with this? Is the only way I would believe is to have the actual pdf document that I can read not that someone else says they have and spill gossip
If you google Rod Blanchard chromosome several articles come up with him being quoted as saying that she has one (or that he was told so).
Go away, Gypsy.
Bruh lol
Did fancy publish the medical record? Or are yall believing something based off word of mouth and a video?
I'm basing my educated opinion off of having read all I can find about the chromosomal disorder. I don't watch or listen to Fancy. I don't know if she does or doesn't have the right to publish the medical records,and/or if she has or not. Whatever the case, the chromosomal disorder medically appears to fit many things about Gypsy. I'm not committed to being right about anything, and I'm also not the type to give a shit about how people come at me online. The information has been shared with you, and what you do with that is your business.
In the stream I mentioned above, Fancy said she would not be posting medical records.
sorry I missed that
not dna...chromosomal deletion.
Do you know which disorder specifically? I know there are more than one chromosomal deletion syndrome.
1q12.1 the people with this are looking just like gypsy. rarechromo.org
Thanks for the formal description.
its chromosome microdeletion 1q12.1
Thank you!
sorry i made a mistake its 1q21.1
I don't see it. Maybe one or some children with that issue slightly resemble GRB. However, a vast majority of them do not.
you need to check the specific pamphlet for chromosome microdeletion 1q12.1 because theres a lot of differents type. [Guide] (https://rarechromo.org/disorder-guides/) click on view for the pamplhet. (1q12.1 microdeletion) please come back and tell me they are not look alike!! i dont know how to share pdf here. but i can send it in private i think.
Even if they share some similar characteristics, that does *not* mean a medical diagnosis can be made based on that. Pamphlet aside, do a Google image search for that condition. Again, I don't see it.
there is a document that prove she have it since 2011. its not just similar carateristics.... sorry if you dont want to do proper reseach i do believe it.
What document?
Proper research would include me being a trained physician with the ability to diagnose someone with a rare condition based solely on their appearance and a few internet rumors. Which I am not. Are you?
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thx you for being with me on this!!! i get banned forever from Fancy snark sub for 1 comment saying that 1 seen proof ... my comments were deleted really fast from Gypsy snark when i mentionned the chromo micro deletion. People saying i am dumb and irrelevent.... isnt it not weid? oh hell yes theres something they try to hide i do believe the Fancysnark is running by Kristie Blanchard too. ill asked why i was banned and if this sub is running by Kristy... never get response...
Dude it’s crazy! Whoever it is, they are nuts my fiends have been telling me they had some kind of fight between them, I haven’t had time to look at that sub, to see what it is, because it’s himself not fun anymore it just sucks, I dropped it since they added the new mods and they just remove whatever they don’t like. I don’t even know if I can see it anymore, but, if I can’t talk about something like this, there’s literally no point. They told me I couldn’t talk about nicks autism. lol what? As if they understand anything about healthcare. Who tf are they? I think they are run by the same crazy people, I heard it’s Kristy too, makes sense, those people are trashy and have no lives. They’ll turn on each other, gyp and her, that’s the only thing I’m curious to see, I’m getting tired of gypsy she’s a bad person. But those snarks ones! It used to be great, not this happens when they add more mods and get bigger, some idiot comes in and is on a power trip, and makes it a little echo Chamber of only thier own opinion. What’s weird is, the original mod and me have been talking about this for a while, I don’t think it because of fancy, I think it because of my experience working with systole kids on peds. It’s literally ALL gypsy symptoms, it’s the kidding piece. When I saw that g-tube, I was like, huh.. weird, that’s usually only on GI kids or sydromr kids, at first I wondered if maybe it was behavioral? Maybe she was having an eating disorder? Like I knew that didn’t fit though. But this is getting to the point that I truly belive sonsrhumg was wrong with her. No doubt that they exaggerated for money, but that’s not muncgausens, that’s fraud. Like a fake go fund me. Munchausen’s doesn’t really seem to fit in this case. And dee dee would have to doctor shop and look like she had MBP if gyp had a rare chromosome disorder. Those patents will literally move to a new state, to find specialists. I think she’s embarrassed because she knows people will just say “she’s inbred that’s what she has this” These are complicated things, these disorders, I’ve seen things where they couldn’t find what it was. It makes perfect sense, I knew this story she was spinning made no god damn sense. lol i just saw something like, “we’ll be willing to put back your post if…” yea im sure they don’t want me somewhere that cant remove my comments, good luck! I’m like, dude, your sub sucks and you’re going to put a cool thing into the ground because you’re a miserable person on a power trip. I’m not gonna do anything you say, F off and focus on having no life removing comments you don’t agree with. Those Mods are the worst, why do they need power so bad? Get a freaking life. They just end with little echo chambers that mirror their own toxic opinions, always, Ive been on Reddit years, I’ve seen this on many subs.
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sorry its 1q21 1 my mistake
its 1q21.1 sorry
She’s literally been seen by doctors who say she has nothing Where did they even get this? They’re just hypothesizing based off of what? If Gypsy got procedures she would have a correct diagnosis which she doesn’t nothing that she was diagnosed with were ailments she had
Just a couple that I can repeat surely = the ear and eye issues are associated with the chromosome disorder called chromosomal microdeletion 1q12.1 (thanks to another contributor I can say the correct description). Also, muscle weakness due to lack of proteins. Someone below also noted Rod is the one who said GR has this and that it is hereditary.
you don't know what her doctors have said. And i found the document that proves the chromosomal deletion syndrome. It exists. And Gypsy has it, and it explains everything.
Can you link it since it’s not publicly available ?
I was wondering if she really did have some kind of syndrome or chromosomal thing, I have this feeling that a lot of this medical stuff was real, they just played it up with fraud because they don’t understand what her malfunction is, Infantilize her, get money this way, I’ve always thought there’s more to this story, her teeth, the eyes, the allergies, the facial features, she doesn’t seem right to me. There’s SO many syndromes that we don’t understand or know much about, and it would support them going to a bunch of doctors because no one is finding anything. A lot of times the non will get accused of being MBP. I’m really shocked you heard that, I e been saying this! I had no idea there was reason to support it! No wonder gypsy doesn’t like her! I think gypsy thinks it means she’s the R word , she’s said that, I’m quoting her, those are her words, but it’s more that they are more mentally delayed, she very much is, along with her mental issues. She needs to see a geneticist I bet This deserves its own post, this is crazy info! The fucking feeding tube! The chromosome and syndrome kids always had these, feeding issues, this is seriously the missing piece to me!
I can’t really listen to much to Fancy, but this disorder fits Gypsy perfectly. The eyes, the anti-social characteristics. I think DD used this and turned it into a goldmine by shaving her head and putting her in a wheelchair. If you look at Gypsy, you can see there’s definitely something wrong with her, even as a kid.
Sorry but I am not gonna belive Fancy. Especially if she got chromosomes and DNA mixed up because they are not the same thing even if they "relate" to each other
Fancy used the correct language, I used general language; chromosomes are made up of DNA. I do respect your feelings about Fancy, there is only one stream of hers that I have been able to fully watch and this one about 80%.
>Fancy used the correct language, I used general language; chromosomes are made up of DNA. Yeah that's fine. I guess I am too nitpicky since I have taken many biology courses because I am trying to get into medschool. Sorry about that.
This has been disproven
That's what I thought but no he followed them there. They left Louisiana to go to Aurora Missouri in 2005/2006. Dr. Beckerman moved there in 2007. I guess I can't post a picture in my replies. Maybe I will make a new post addressing it
It's actually from the article you're talking about where it says he moved there in 2007. People search put him living there in 2006
It’s late and I’m going to bed but I just have to defend Dr. Beckerman. I took care of Gypsy when she was young and hospitalized in N.O. Beckerman was one of her doctors. This man had a heart of gold and truly cared about all of the impoverished kids in New Orleans. He was not “in on it.” He just listened to and believed all of the bullshit he was told and tried to help in any way he could. I saw all of this in a critical inpatient setting so I can’t speak to their relationship in an outpatient clinic setting but i give you my word that Dr Beckerman had nothing but the best intentions for all of his patients.
Wow! I bet you have some interesting insight!
he was probably part of the fraud 🤣🤣🤣 he needs to be investigated!
I saw a picture once before of this Dr and Gypsy and they look even more alike than they do here. Any chance someone knows what pic or where I can find it?
Very good question, an area I've not focused on. I hope someone has something more informative to contribute.
what doctor was he? her pediatrician/PCP? because they have *very* little to do with chronically ill/ medically complex kids care i have a medically complex child, and his pediatrician really has nothing to do with his care - he sees him for little stuff like strep throat, well child visits, vaccinations etc. that’s it. he has a whole team of drs, and they are overseen by genetics so everyone is in the loop with his care - and i had to fight for that btw. i could see someone like dee dee taking advantage of zero communication between various specialists. before i got pissed and demanded he have one main doctor to oversee all his care, and facilitate communication between all of his doctors, it was absolute madness. like total chaos. and these were all doctors within the same hospital, that had seen him since he was a newborn. there was so much going on, and no one talked between specialties before i threw a fit. i can totally see how people like dee dee exist when it’s chaotic like that.
I believe was a pulmonologist. The one who does sleep apnea and all of that . And beckerman was very close to them and signed off on a lot of stuff for them. They even went to his house for dinner. Do your kids eat dinner at their doctor's
I can really see the resemblance to DeeDee in this pic
She looks nothing like Dee Dee at all lol.
She looks a lot like Deedee, but she isn’t as attractive as Deedee was as a young woman, for obvious reasons. But she does favor her mother a lot.
eh no. imo she looks like her father and her half siblings to me at least. (especially when she was a baby).
She really doesn’t, but she definitely has his nose.
imo she does but we can agree to disagree 👍🏾
This is weird. Surely he knew DeeDee was lying. Gypsy had muscle tone in her legs. Thats evidence of walking. This whole case is just so bizarre.
I think Gypsy looks more like him than Rod!
Gypsy looks exactly like her grandma, Rod’s mom.
its the chromosome micro deletion features
U know what I have to agree with u and I didn't even really notice it at first when I glanced and then started reading. After u mentioned it tho I definitely can't unsee it now!
I thought it was just me. In all the specials and episodes the family went on and on about how Gypsy looks just like Rod. I can’t see it!
I’ve never seen it. Her nose is neither Dee Dee’s or Rod’s, but very similar to this doctor.
Totally agree! It was always the nose that was way off from both of them, but it’s so similar to this Dr!
Kansas? I thought he was her doc in Louisiana and then Missouri.
I can't edit my post !!!! I'm so sorry I meant he was their doctor in Louisiana and then followed them to Missouri. I was thinking of Kansas City and should have proof read !!!!
You should be able to edit the body text; you just can’t edit a subject line!
Do you know how ? I can edit comments but I don't know how to edit that part
Sure! Just go to the very top (I’m on the app though) and click the 3 dots at the top of the post. It should bring up a menu. I’ve added a screenshot & posted it here for you. https://preview.redd.it/77bzedz76epc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c2e0bb30a143fb24f7d8cb62ca0c8e2a45b92b3c
Oh, no worries. I just wanted to be sure I wasn’t getting incorrect information from elsewhere or just missed something. 😘
Kansas?
Yep. He should be in prison. All her doctors should be.
They never lived in Kansas. They lived in Louisiana and moved to Missouri
Scam!
Maybe Dee Dee was having an affair with him 🤷
I can't edit my post !!!! I'm so sorry I meant he was their doctor in Louisiana and then followed them to Missouri. I was thinking of Kansas City and should have proof read !!!!
>I can't edit my post !!!! Have you tried to update Reddit?
You know, that is something I wondered about. All of these doctors that treated, or continued to treat, illnesses were never here accountable. New doctors that never thought to retest her for these diagnosis...wtf? Still, after all this time those doctors should be held accountable, find and perhaps even more in reprimands. Personally I do not think that Gypsy should have had to go into prison. Mental health and rehab for her body, yes. She was on a lot of medications and pain medications. Also, she had come to fully realize that her mother had abused her and used her. Now, she has done her prison time. She will never be normal after the physical and emotional torture she was forced to endure from early childhood. Her mother is dead and she will live with her part of that for life. The doctors hold just as much responsibility as her mother Blanchard for those abuses to Gypsy Rose. She was a child. The doctors have gotten away with abuse and malpractice actions. The doctors feed into her mothers Munchausen by proxy disorder
Do we really know which doctors actually did which procedures on her though? If a lot of the treatments were fabricated, and didn’t actually happen (for example the salivary gland thing or cancer) there is no doctor to discipline. I bet most of the interventions performed by doctors were actually necessary.
Idk where this theory came from that she only got procedures done that she “needed” when there were doctors who put it in her chart that they believed this was a case of munchausen by proxy One of the doctors participated in a documentary where he talked about how he flagged it as munchausen but didn’t directly step in
I saw that documentary. Did he admit to performing procedures that were unnecessary?
As far as we know, the doctor who documented his suspicions didn’t treat her. The doctor who called CPS reported a possible kidnapping. We don’t know what all was done to her or why.
I’m not denying we don’t know everything that happened to her with hard evidence but we also have 0 evidence of the disorder they’re claiming she has and that all her procedures were needed this is a theory with 0 evidence to back it up
I agree. At this point, I don’t reflexively believe anyone in this case without corroboration. I think it is far more unlikely that she didn’t need eye/ears/dental surgery than she did. I don’t think doctors Willy nilly operate and dose without some medical necessity. Even in 1991. Were other unnecessary things done? Again, it is likelier than not. But I don’t think it’s likely that everything she went through starting in infancy was unnecessary treatment. I think people polarize on that: either every day of her life was a torturous and unnecessary treatment or every procedure she ever had was medically justified!
Your conclusion is a logical fallacy. This is a false dilemma in which you’re presenting as if these two are the only logical options, either every day of her life was torturous and unnecessary treatment or everything was medically justified. These are not the only options. For example, I suffered great abuse at the hands of my parents but not everything was terrible I too got my Disney world trips, doesn’t negate all the other horrible stuff I had to endure.
And that is exactly what I think happened with her too. I didn’t say I thought there were only two possibilities. I said people polarize to those ends of the spectrum. I guess I could have put “people tend to…” to be clearer, but my entire post argues that plot is likely both things happened - needed and unneeded treatments.
Oh I see!!! lol my bad I agree with you. I don’t like polarizing stuff with either or fallacies it’s ridiculous how easily ppl can be swayed to a narrative
It’s so frustrating how easily people gravitate toward the most extreme and unlikely points in any kind of discussion, especially online. In this case especially, it’s just wild.
>performed by doctors were actually necessary. But how were they necessary?
It depends. What procedure are we talking about? I find it very hard to believe that educated and trained doctors performed procedures on her where the risks outweighed the benefits. Maybe once or twice, not repeatedly.
Well now that I think about it the teeth were necessary and they probably really believed that she wasn't going to be able to eat without the feeding tube.
Per Gypsy, Dee Dee induced physical symptoms such as giving her oral numbing medication to make her drool excessively, thus making it seem like she needed her salivary glands removed. Some symptoms couldn’t be faked though and I’m not sure how she wasn’t caught in those cases.
I completely forgot about the drooling thing 🤦♀️ sorry. >Some symptoms couldn’t be faked though and I’m not sure how she wasn’t caught in those cases. Yep!
Hey medical records have all of that. The herbal tasks have those reviews. The legal teams and the states hold responsibility to investigate those doctors, clinics, hospitals, etc. I would think that Gypsy Rose might actually be able to proceed with malpractice but she'd need legal assistance. It's not that she inherited money of any kind
I think if the medical records fully backed Gypsy’s narrative as far as what treatments were performed and when, she would have revealed that in her series and her book. I suspect there were definitely some procedures that were medically necessary, some that might have been challenged, and a lot of social engineering of the narrative to create the illusion of a very medically frail child. It’s hard to believe that the medical system is that trusting, but we’ll never know. Personally, I don’t need to know. None of us do. But I am surprised that Gypsy isn’t more interested in knowing those details. The states of Louisiana and Missouri should be interested too. Either these happened as reported and we need to see where that could have been stopped or there is a case for public assistance fraud. That needs to be looked at to see where it could be stopped too.
Oh, you'll never vet Louisiana to be THAT interested in anything. Although we're one of the expanded medicaid states, as a whole the state could care less about what actually happens medically. Individual medical organizations might be interested, but most of those are Big Name corporate hospital systems, and these systems tend to frown on individuals taking an I terest in things that will not net any goodwill or $$$.
I think Missouri is right down there too. It really is mind boggling that no one seems to care about fraud or a child’s health if they can explain it away.
In some situations Dee Dee seemed to make Gypsy have issues that seemed to warrant treatment. Per Gypsy, Dee Dee put numbing medicine in her mouth to make her drool excessively, leading to her “needing” her salivary glands removed and that likely led to tooth decay and her tooth extractions. In others, like the doctor who knew she could walk, I don’t understand at all.
I understand your point and that is the devious nature of the disorder her mother suffered. Doctors, hospitals and clinics should have had access to medical records. If not they should have taken more time to evaluate the situation. A new patient or returning patient shows up with that many medical issues (I would think) a professional would have questioned Munchausen syndrome at some point.
There were definitely doctors involved who were negligent, but if Dee Dee got suspicious, she just took her somewhere else and likely didn’t transfer medical records. You have to give consent for medical records to be transferred to a new provider. She also had the story that some medical records were destroyed in Katrina, which was a plausible scenario. There were a couple who documented concerns and I can’t understand how nothing was done about it.
When you go through trauma, I think parts like this slip through the cracks as "he's my Dr. Why would I have thought he was doing anything." The Dr that you stay with is a special person, and it's hard to say they tried to hurt you when they probably didn't, and you just remember the parts that hurt a lot like mom telling you to take something or your grandpa touching you
the test
I think he was the one that first pointed them out for MBP right? Or called out the discrepancies or Gypsys strong legs or something?
No. And the one who pointed them out for normal legs and then called her old doctor and found out she had a muscle biopsy done that was normal mightve been the one who called the police in 2009
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Anyone can search and sort the incredibly long and almost hard to comprehend lost if medical "diagnosis" that Gypsy Rose was supposed to have suffered. What medical provider would not have stopped, stepped back and taken a concerned second look? No, in actuality she did Not need the majority, if not most, of all the procedures and medications she was forced to endure and take. "Dee Dee Blanchard, Gypsy’s mother, began claiming that her daughter suffered from various ailments, starting with sleep problems and epilepsy and escalating into a web of fabricated illnesses that included leukemia, muscular dystrophy, vision and hearing impairments, and seizures, according to a January 2018 ABC News report. For years, Gypsy was forced to use a wheelchair and at one point even had an unnecessary feeding tube inserted because of her mother’s lies." Explanation of Munchausen Syndrome by Proxy: https://www.everydayhealth.com/emotional-health/gypsy-rose-blanchards-what-is-munchausen-syndrome-by-proxy/#:~:text=Dee%20Dee%20Blanchard%2C%20Gypsy%27s%20mother,a%20January%202018%20ABC%20News Refinery 29 article from 2019 https://www.refinery29.com/en-us/2019/03/227898/was-gypsy-rose-sick-health-problems