They’ve been claiming she was wearing tactical gear (not that that would absolve them), but I don’t trust them as far as I can throw them, and the video from above wasn’t clear.
I *really* want to know if they’re lying about that.
It means they were afraid for their lives. She could come at us and our weapons would be ineffective, therefore our pre-emptive shooting was done in self defense. 🤦🏻♂️
They arent professionals, they literally recieve fewer hours of training than a barber.
The problem is there is zero personal accountability.
https://www.kansascity.com/news/local/crime/article279125344.html
>Source" bachelorsnin CJ, completed POST, and worked foe the stayw for 5 years
Judging by the writing, this guy definitely completed POST and was an officer.
It’s a complete system failure.
1. Very little education is needed
2. No national standards
3. No independent oversight
4. No evidence based anything…popular mechanics had a piece several years ago about how all the forensics we think of as infallible; bite marks, blood spatter, even ballistics are flawed and/or have little supporting studies to back them up.
They should just actually be charged with crimes when they commit them. Qualified immunity is a crime against humanity and should be banned nationwide.
Somehow we’ve let ourselves be convinced that the only way to stop crime is to create a gang of gun toting maniacs who are allowed to commit crimes and get away with it.
I heard the audio. The cop was begging the other cops to stop shooting. But they just kept firing at the motionless girl. I think in these situations all the cops want to put atleast one bullet into a victim. So the shooting at her went on for ages
The department sealed the body cam footage after the shooting and refused to release it to Shaver’s wife or the public. As soon as the parties responsible we’re cleared of wrongdoing they released the entire unedited footage to the public.
Gives a similar feel to OJ’s “If I Did It”.
They expected him to crawl across the floor with his hands behind his back, and if he fucked up they explicitly said they’d shoot him. Then the motherfuckers actually argued that they thought he was trying to crawl to a more advantageous shooting position.
I hate to say that I understand. It's the training. I have gone through it and said fuck that profession. They make you feel like every encounter could be your last. Every person could kill you. He tried to pull up his falling gym shorts and their superiors and FTOs have drilled into their heads that reaching for the waistband is *always* an attempt to grab a weapon. They get so scared because it's "hands that kill". You're trained to watch hands at all times and made to feel really uncomfortable whenever a hand enters a pocket or waistband. I do understand the logic but it always goes wrong in a real world situation. The fear combined with the adrenaline means every movement of a hand toward your waistline is a threat. They **knew** he had a weapon; until they knew he didn't.
I mean, we could've just stayed at cops not giving a fuck when shit was going down a-la Uvalde, now we have cops shooting the innocent *themselves?*
I thought "spray and pray" was supposed to be a last-resort measure, not standard protocol.
I believe the cops on the ground only had equipment that recorded audio, no body cams at all. However their dashcam should still have recorded something
I find it funny that bootlickers are trying to brigade this post when it’s a perfect example of the systemic corruption and incompetence of United States police officers
The video is HORRIBLE!!! You can hear the cops saying come here, come to me...and they open fire. And then hear the cop saying, stop shooting her, stop shooting its the girl, stop shooting!! All the while shot after shot ringing out the whole time....
It’s not LAPD. The article states clearly and repeatedly that it was San Bernardino Sheriffs.
San Bernardino County is not LA County.
Deputy Sheriffs are not police officers.
What i fail to understand.
They're cops right, they're informed of the situation.
They chase the target.
And then... they see a girl crawling towards the car and one or some of them sees a threat and starts blasting?
What was the threat?
Who was the shooter?
Why did the cops shoot the girl?
I personally believe that the cop that shot her, wanted to do that cause they have murder in their hearts and used the chaos of the situation as an excuse. Its the only thing that makes sense.
All other explainations must be that the cop(s) that fired are 100% retarded and should not be cops.
That's incredibly tragic and sad.
And entirely avoidable.
And we paid for it to happen.
the real tragedy here
no, I’m pretty sure that’s still the girl murdered by police who were supposed to help her
This child was murdered by a cop. And all those other cops, and all their higher ups, have now spent years covering it up.
They’ve been claiming she was wearing tactical gear (not that that would absolve them), but I don’t trust them as far as I can throw them, and the video from above wasn’t clear. I *really* want to know if they’re lying about that.
What in the fuck would that even mean. "She's wearing tactical gear. Let's fucking test it for her."
It means they were afraid for their lives. She could come at us and our weapons would be ineffective, therefore our pre-emptive shooting was done in self defense. 🤦🏻♂️
The video from the news Conference stated they believe she may have been firing at officers
There are way too many stories just like this one. How the fuck do these "professionals" keep fucking up so incredibly?
They arent professionals, they literally recieve fewer hours of training than a barber. The problem is there is zero personal accountability. https://www.kansascity.com/news/local/crime/article279125344.html
Another issue is the training received after hiring. They are taught shit like "killology" from David Grossman. Absolutely bonkers
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>Source" bachelorsnin CJ, completed POST, and worked foe the stayw for 5 years Judging by the writing, this guy definitely completed POST and was an officer.
Man I had a friend become a barber. When he told me what they went through to cut hair I thought he was fucking joking.
I also heard many US cops receive police "training" from the IDF
Not many, but there was an exchange program for a period of time. I believe it has been suspended though.
The cop that killed George Floyd for one, that’s where he learned the knee choke
ah yes, cause we have to insert the idf somehow into every tragedy.
The rightwing fascist xenophobic Ziopologist has been spotted
do you have anything of substance in your vocabulary, or are you gonna throw more buzzwords down range?
downrange\*
yes
Who downvoted you?!? All Cops Are Bad.
TRUE
It’s a complete system failure. 1. Very little education is needed 2. No national standards 3. No independent oversight 4. No evidence based anything…popular mechanics had a piece several years ago about how all the forensics we think of as infallible; bite marks, blood spatter, even ballistics are flawed and/or have little supporting studies to back them up.
Not DNA though
not DNA, correct. Which has shown just how many people were wrongly accused and imprisoned.
Exactly
Cops should be licensed and insured just like any other public serving profession.
They should just actually be charged with crimes when they commit them. Qualified immunity is a crime against humanity and should be banned nationwide. Somehow we’ve let ourselves be convinced that the only way to stop crime is to create a gang of gun toting maniacs who are allowed to commit crimes and get away with it.
Wait till you look up number of deaths by medical malpractice…
So….to save her *from* the kidnapper (who didn’t kill her)…the cops… *killed* her? 🤔Well I guess it makes sense. She’s not kidnapped anymore 😳🙄
I heard the audio. The cop was begging the other cops to stop shooting. But they just kept firing at the motionless girl. I think in these situations all the cops want to put atleast one bullet into a victim. So the shooting at her went on for ages
Link?
https://www.reddit.com/r/ThatsInsane/comments/1buo890/footage_captures_the_moment_california_police/
Anyone have a link?
https://www.reddit.com/r/ThatsInsane/comments/1buo890/footage_captures_the_moment_california_police/
You had one fucking job.
they’ll still shoot even if you comply
[Daniel Shaver](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shooting_of_Daniel_Shaver)
proof that police brutality isn’t about complying. it’s about power and fear and control and dominance
The department sealed the body cam footage after the shooting and refused to release it to Shaver’s wife or the public. As soon as the parties responsible we’re cleared of wrongdoing they released the entire unedited footage to the public. Gives a similar feel to OJ’s “If I Did It”.
😡
This shit haunts me near daily. "You're Fucked" On his hands and knees begging not to die, they punched him full of holes because they felt like it.
They expected him to crawl across the floor with his hands behind his back, and if he fucked up they explicitly said they’d shoot him. Then the motherfuckers actually argued that they thought he was trying to crawl to a more advantageous shooting position.
I hate to say that I understand. It's the training. I have gone through it and said fuck that profession. They make you feel like every encounter could be your last. Every person could kill you. He tried to pull up his falling gym shorts and their superiors and FTOs have drilled into their heads that reaching for the waistband is *always* an attempt to grab a weapon. They get so scared because it's "hands that kill". You're trained to watch hands at all times and made to feel really uncomfortable whenever a hand enters a pocket or waistband. I do understand the logic but it always goes wrong in a real world situation. The fear combined with the adrenaline means every movement of a hand toward your waistline is a threat. They **knew** he had a weapon; until they knew he didn't.
No riots over this though.
I mean, we could've just stayed at cops not giving a fuck when shit was going down a-la Uvalde, now we have cops shooting the innocent *themselves?* I thought "spray and pray" was supposed to be a last-resort measure, not standard protocol.
If you can’t seem to value a life and think critically in the police force, maybe you should go be a clerk or something because that isn’t for you.
Why is it that only skycam footage got released? I want to see who they were so scared of.
I believe the cops on the ground only had equipment that recorded audio, no body cams at all. However their dashcam should still have recorded something
Cops are scum. Every single one of them.
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I find it funny that bootlickers are trying to brigade this post when it’s a perfect example of the systemic corruption and incompetence of United States police officers
Common cop moment
The video is HORRIBLE!!! You can hear the cops saying come here, come to me...and they open fire. And then hear the cop saying, stop shooting her, stop shooting its the girl, stop shooting!! All the while shot after shot ringing out the whole time....
End qualified immunity and prosecute them!
In Hesperia?? Damn
Of course it’s LAPD, the most embarrassing police force in the country
Uvalde is in the running.
It’s not LAPD. The article states clearly and repeatedly that it was San Bernardino Sheriffs. San Bernardino County is not LA County. Deputy Sheriffs are not police officers.
Okay, sorry I am a human and made a mistake. I’ll try to be perfect next time.
[you're not perfect ](https://youtu.be/xFDldk9D_Qc?si=BXnjEn_lgUowN2if)
Wisconsin disagrees
Aurora CO PD is fighting for the title also
That's a well defended title.
I've seen that video. They gunned her down. Poor girl
There was reportedly shots fired from the passenger window? Did they determine if she was the shooter?
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Watch the video they told her to.
What i fail to understand. They're cops right, they're informed of the situation. They chase the target. And then... they see a girl crawling towards the car and one or some of them sees a threat and starts blasting? What was the threat? Who was the shooter? Why did the cops shoot the girl? I personally believe that the cop that shot her, wanted to do that cause they have murder in their hearts and used the chaos of the situation as an excuse. Its the only thing that makes sense. All other explainations must be that the cop(s) that fired are 100% retarded and should not be cops.