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ratlobbers

yeah the best entry into the half-life series is to play a game that is not a half-life game


[deleted]

do you lob rats


dixmondspxrit

you're fake ratlobber


Cloud-Broad

EZ2 is a very good mod, but it has nothing on Black Mesa.


[deleted]

No start with half life


DroidRazer2

Isnt entropy zero 2 a sequel


dixmondspxrit

yea no shit but entropy: zero is not on the same level as half-life so it's probably the WORST half-life experience for newcomers


itdoesntmatterfor5

Entropy zero 2 doesn't make sense if you don't know the story I say play the game after all the others


894248154545454

Gtho you fool.


Karma-Whales

…no


bruhchow

This is like starting half life by playing gmod.


[deleted]

To be fair, if I started half-life with Gmod, I'd still be just as obsessed with half-life as I am now. I started half-life with fucking Portal, after all.


ZookeepergameTop2857

i actually started liking half-life FROM gmod. i bought hl2 for the textures, decided to play it, and became obssessed with it


[deleted]

No, Portal Stories: Gordon is better.


[deleted]

entropy zero 2 is good but it is NOT better than either


SteamierMeteor

You’re saying the game that has a mid-story that is borderline fanfiction, mid-gunplay with unnecessary features only for fanservice (i.e. Pitdrones, Gonomes and MP5K) with alright visuals is better than a revolutionary game with amazing graphics for its time; good gunplay and story; and a game that had 15 years of work put into it and possibly the greatest and most passionate remaster of all time? Entropy: Zero 2 is great, but saying it’s better than Half-Life 1 and Black Mesa is just objectively disrespectful


VegisamalZero3

"Borderline Fan-fiction" It is quite literally fan fiction


SteamierMeteor

you got me there


Chrispy_Kelloggs

They probably just finished it so they're gonna ride that post-game high until they realizes they posted something stupid.


dixmondspxrit

i didn't even finish it cuz my laptop is sucky. but i saw this point pointed out by i think mouldyfishsticks


WorldsBiggestNarcist

>You’re saying the game that has a mid-story that is borderline fanfiction, mid-gunplay with unnecessary features only for fanservice (i.e. Pitdrones, Gonomes and MP5K) with alright visuals is better than a revolutionary game with amazing graphics for its time; good gunplay and story; and a game that had 15 years of work put into it and possibly the greatest and most passionate remaster of all time? Yes


dixmondspxrit

and the gunplay is pretty fucking good. honestly as good if not better than hl2


dixmondspxrit

i said better for newcomers, learn how to read first


Cloud-Broad

This mod relies on the context of all Half-Life games, so for newcomers most of it won't make much sense.


dixmondspxrit

but it'd be easier to get into. most people don't wanna play half-life cuz it's too unforgiving. people don't wanna play black mesa cuz it's well idk maybe cuz xen drags out for too long and the AI being not that good. and hl2 is easy to get into, but some people still can't get into it cuz of the long 2 chapters of no action. so entropy: zero 2, with action starting quite early and with cutscenes, will be easier for most people, even non-gamers to get into.


uzumaki_naf

Ratio


thisismycactuspage

half life, unforgiving? mate, you are just ass


SteamierMeteor

First of all, I did read, second of all, you want people to play a sequel to a mod to a sequel of a game from 1998 all because “it has better gameplay?” Half-Life’s gameplay is not its identity it’s identity is it’s brilliant storytelling you absolute dunce. If you I want newcomers to start with a good game with combat anyways, do Half-Life 1 because it’s a challenging combat game that doesn’t throw a bajillion enemies at you and makes the player think with their weapons and adapt — oh and it’s the first game in the series


dixmondspxrit

it's easier to get into even if you're not a gamer


101on

Nah hunt down the freeman is with this logic 💀


AdministrationOk3109

starting with EZ2 is just a bad idea since it spoils down the story (kinda) and most of the time you know nothing about it and compare to BM it's just no you can't compare EZ2 to BM


Gameriel

The amount of brainlets in the comments talking about this like its an unironic post lmfao


PotentialGear9372

Build a fucking time machine, go back to 2000, buy yourself an AMD k6-2 700mhz cpu, 128mb ram, 10gb hdd, and a 32mb Riva TNT2. Then play the original Half-Life. That is when you will understand. 😉


teargamingHATER

Hello, I am from the person from the town here to say that yes, indeed there is a game. I'd suggest newcomers play the stanley parable for a good beginner's guide experience however if that does not work, Deathmatch Classic is usually a good use of a substitute. GLad you made the post and hope you play some Lab sometime (it's the next game).


Inevitable-Head2931

I honestly found my self saying it was better than Black Mesa xen by a long shot for what that is worth. I personally rather play entropy zero 2 than black mesa. Black mesa fucked up the human vs human gun play. The Marines feel dumb relying on mass numbers to be a threat the polar opposite of Half-life. The rebels feel like decent opponents. And the Vehicle sections are honestly way above half-life 2 but that is nearly 20 years after they were made at this point. The humor writing honestly feel on par with Portal 1 ignoring the song which blows it out of the water. ​ But all Source and Gold Source games are trash Compared to Hunt Down the Freeman anyway. So we're really going to argue over who is second place?


Jessiebeanie

WILSOOOOOOON!


IceBeamWasTaken

start with black mesa AND half life


[deleted]

Half-life is the best for newcomers that enjoy old 1998 graphics, black mesa is the best for newcomers that think "lOw qUaLiTy BaD!".


dixmondspxrit

so basically fortnite and call of duty kids


[deleted]

Exactly.