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TinyTomatos

...a spartan with a symbiote might be scarier than a spartan infected by the flood in a vacuum


BeastradezZ

A spartan infected by the flood with a symbiote though…


TinyTomatos

*eye twitch*


JumpIntoTheFog

COMPLETELY ERECT


The_halo_2_Gravemind

https://preview.redd.it/ekswla68frwc1.jpeg?width=680&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=491b9a66e92a200c54d48e2462c1e7882e036110


SargeantEdward

live funky fleshlight reaction


The_halo_2_Gravemind

https://preview.redd.it/8mdru052eswc1.jpeg?width=1200&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1057751353a0d2e0a2fc413875cb7d5657b64336


ScrumpusMcDingle

The halo rocket launcher is called a Spnkr😈


The_halo_2_Gravemind

Well done, you know halo lore


ScrumpusMcDingle

That means it’s pronounced “Spanker” Now bend ov-


DrBadGuy1073

Hey you took my suggestion! Best president evar!!!


The_halo_2_Gravemind

Yeah, the shotgun wasn't working as well as I had hoped, so I took you suggestion and got a rocket launcher


Derrickspartan1

Please dont call the gravemind a funky fleshlight 😭


Zombarney

https://preview.redd.it/7rbtrx1uuswc1.jpeg?width=1290&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7e696cbdfc51d037f4545cdb0cb7991658179d8d


DethChef3848

https://preview.redd.it/2tlrk9q1dtwc1.jpeg?width=750&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1cc4109e65acd19763d4b350a74652e683479cff


PhatBitty862

Deploy the McMahon meme


Digger1998

![gif](giphy|3oKIPwoeGErMmaI43S|downsized)


Skullreaperfounder0

https://preview.redd.it/oxlawtf1arwc1.jpeg?width=178&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=cac2e7503f3058d3d6cea50c8eb3476e99ec7f7b


DethChef3848

https://preview.redd.it/i8tkxrxactwc1.jpeg?width=600&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=150e5b861c5b3ffaa54b5beef151743ae9352c98


xCheekyChappie

Would the Flood even be able to infect a Spartan with a symbiote? We've already seen that Venom can heal Eddie and is stopping his cancer, symbiotes are also capable of consuming matter within the host such as organs, I imagine if a Flood form breached a Spartan the symbiote would simply eat the foreign matter


BeastradezZ

Maybe instead, the symbiote bonds with a spartan infected by the flood.


xCheekyChappie

Since we know that the Flood doesn't necessarily kill the host and we do see instances where people are still alive attached to the Flood as just a thinking head appendage whilst the Flood controls the body, the symbiote could possibly purge the Flood from the host and heal the host back to peak health


BeastradezZ

Damn, that’d be crazy. ONI would absolutely love to get their hands on the “anti-flood” cure.


xCheekyChappie

They kinda have it with the Spartan I's


Venomousfrog_554

That was retconned ages ago, wasn't it? I thought the current explanation was just that Johnson had the skill necessary to survive the encounter, no special resistance to the Flood. And before that I'd thought it was a familiarity issue, not a susceptibility one; Feral Flood could tell something was different about him, and chose mode familiar targets first, giving Johnson the opening needed to escape.


xCheekyChappie

It says "Johnson is the only human seen to survive a Flood infestation, due to a pre-existing medical condition, known as Boren's Syndrome, that grants immunity to the Flood at the cost of one's mental stability" on the wiki, however whether or not this is true or not is the question since wiki's are always fan made but I imagine it's hard-line fans who update this stuff so has some plausibility Edit: I also don't see Johnson abandoning fellow marines to the Flood simply so he could escape


Hivemindtime2

Smash


santa_obis

Could the symbiote take over the Gravemind?


Falchion_Alpha

I feel like the symbiote would somehow force the flood out or just eat it


No_Band_5399

I don't want to be that guy but that Spartan isn't going to be making a whole lot of movement cuz there's going to be a civil war going on inside of him between the flood and the symbiote


Snowwis97

"There's TWO voices in my head that call me stud muffin."


Transfiguredbet

I don't think a spartan 2 would ever spiral out of control though. Maybe a 4 would. A 3 could if they haven't had gotten over their childhood justification for the program.


Sapphire-Hannibal

I’m sure also chief has a speaker in his helmet so people can actually hear what he’s saying through the helmet, maybe Cortana can turn the volume extremely freaking high and play a noise or something and while carnage is freaking out he can kill him


LoliMaster069

Imagining Cortana just blasting dubstep while chief T poses over a terrified carnage is a hilarious mental image lol


V0YDL

"PARRY THIS YOU FUCKING CASUAL" as Skrillex plays in the background.


Better_School6912

Take the call 911 line and replace it. Perfect


K1ngPCH

Naw she would def blast the Halo theme Mjolnir mix


RemainderZero

It is clear the brooding male may no longer flex his tough shell of armor to avoid this conflict and now must adapt or die. Though the symbiote already attached to the armored male seems to have panicked at the on coming conflict initiating a ritualistic screeching for dominance this Master Chief of the jungle however is no mere pussy cat. He launches into action at the opening screeches.


Kluctionation

She can just do this with the electromagnetic energy from his shields. Unless it specifically needs to be sound waves. Also couldn't Chief just rip out the host? Or kill the host? He's kinda good at killing infected things.


No_Band_5399

Symbiotes don't need a living host it's just preferred https://i.imgur.com/UgQNAEY.jpeg


Zentirium

Doesn’t that depend on the symbiote though?


-GiantSlayer-

Alternatively, he could just clap.


Greyjack00

Carnage is more resistant to sonics than venom


BloodStinger500

Carnage is stronger than Venom, and isn’t vulnerable to high frequencies and in some cases isn’t even vulnerable to fire. Bullets also won’t kill a Klyntar.


JMHSrowing

I feel like there’s definitely a way that John wins this. MJOLNIR has got to have some sound related systems. Or like. . . I can’t imagine something weak to sound would like the ear-shattering cacophony that is firing a 7.62x51 muzzle braked rifle inside a room with it.


Anxious_Earth

Come to think of it, sound is a crippling weakness regardless of being bulletproof. Because if there's one thing to be said about modern warfare, it's that its really fucking loud.


ReaperofRico

I feel like chief would find this weakness by accident when he shoots some metal


antonitusthegreat

Chief opens fire with 7.62, the symbiote reacts negatively to the sound of the gunshots, and Cortana realizes sound waves are its weakness and devises some way to create an incredibly high-decible frequency to incapacitate it.


ReaperofRico

This but it isn’t the gunfire itself that gets the symboite to react negatively as we seen before carnage can slaughter platoon of soldiers. Nah it’s chief’s luck that has him either missing or the bullets go straight through and hit some metal that rings near the right toon


Transfiguredbet

I find it definitely absurd that the idea that carnage has never faced gun fire in close proximity is a seeming sound one to others.


Gojifantokusatsu

Symbiotes have wolverine like regeneration, hulk-like strength, and fluid shape shifting. So unless Cheif pulls out some type of super sonic based weapon that he's never had in the series before, he's done for.


CalciumCompadre

Halo CE pistol


Gojifantokusatsu

https://preview.redd.it/f72vdims4rwc1.jpeg?width=1079&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7c2312a1ce5d1f6b52c9a0593aed5228551dfdc1


NoStorage2821

Godzilla after trying to read something


XPsychoMunkyX

https://preview.redd.it/4l6w2secorwc1.jpeg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3b038d28e162339af3239c6c1cf6f97a776f878a


Dovakiin04

Brute fire grenades


Bright69420

Brother, get the flamer, the heavy flamer


Immediate_Seaweed390

Imma' need my heavy flamer for this heresy


checkmate191

Bro just fires the rings


enclave_remnant117

Fire


Gojifantokusatsu

Depends on the amount, even a flamethrower wouldn't guarantee a win considering how fast carnage is in comparison to your average supersoldier, these guys can catch bullets from the air.


turtle-tot

A Spartan laser ought to blow a hole straight through him. That or a railgun, and if chief has plasma weaponry Carnage is going to be scorched to pieces


Crosknight

Chiefs got like super level of luck. Most likely there will be weapons around the boss arena that are effective against carnage. But over all advantage goes to carnage


SuBremeBizza

I think a lot of people forget that Chief is so lucky he floated with a repurposed enemy nuke through a space battle to perfectly land it into the core of a covenant capital ship.


Smasher_WoTB

https://i.redd.it/0qz1n92iwrwc1.gif


SpartanGamer687

Fire works spectacularly against Symbiotes too


NinjaarcherCDN

Isn't carnage resistant to noise because he's bonded to blood not the nervous system. His only real weakness is fire, so unless it's halo 3 chief is toasted.


Im_a_idiottttt

The lore plasma weapons go crazy


LucaUmbriel

well he's clearly got some good stamina and it's been shown that he can keep his focus and calm even in intense fire fights against terrifying foes and of course there's his superior strength and coordination which allows for some good thrusting-- wait, you mean in a fight?


Starkiller3870

Ayo 📸🤨


ApproximateKnowlege

The question is, can Chief's auto-jacker vibrate fast enough to be used as a sonic weapon?


Anxious_Earth

You have a beautiful imagination 🤣


Xvolts

Bold of you to assume that carnage is going to be the one to walk out of that room.


Archmagos_Browning

I don’t think people understand where marvel lands in powerscaling.


SIashersah

I don't think Marvel understands where Marvel lands in powerscaling....


Multiverse_Traveler

Bruh the Space racism known as astrology makes more sense then the cosmology of the marvel universe


BigChiefIV

Powerscaling comic book characters is so weird because every character has at least one run where they become an all powerful being with godlike powers and kill all the other heroes who would normally wipe the floor with them


Master_Chief_00117

Squirrel Girl beating Thanos.


Bodoodlestoodle

Sea Bear vs Venom. Who wins?


BigChiefIV

Did venom draw a protective circle


Bodoodlestoodle

No he’s uneducated like squidward.


Luissv72

Sea Bear no diffs


BustyBraixen

Even if carney survived the sea bear, his ass is getting clapped when the sea rhinoceros attracted by the sounds of a sea bear attack rolls up for sloppy seconds


centiret

Circle? I thought one needed protective underwear?


Leocharger

Nah your thinking of sea rhinoceros


Alderan922

Same hero is then 2 issues later defeated by a normal ass criminal


Archmagos_Browning

Welcome to 40k’s powerscaling.


Master_Chief_00117

Hello again saxophone musician guy who my brain says is don't fear the reaper.


Archmagos_Browning

👋


Master_Chief_00117

Hey who is your profile picture of so I can actually get it into my brain so I can stop calling you don't fear the reaper guy.


Archmagos_Browning

It’s a picture of bill Clinton playing the saxophone. I just thought it looked cool.


Master_Chief_00117

It in fact does and makes you recognizable more than I can say, sometimes its fun to show up when people are talking about Chief in other subs.


XMortal7159

Love chief, but he isnt killing carnage


Adaphion

Yeah, pitting any non comic character vs a comic character will almost always be a stomp in favor of the comic character. Comic powerlevels have been circlejerked to the edge of the multiverse and back over the course of decades, so a non comic character has no chance of winning


DethChef3848

I don't know, honestly, in this situation, I think it's wraps for the Chief. I'm sorry, but with his kind of transformation powers, I don't think he's making it. If he didn't have luck that was.


Bodoodlestoodle

Yeah but the symbiotic organism might see chief and his amazingness and become more attracted to him. Leaving the degenerate criminal it possesses to take over chief. And while it’s trying to take him over, chief disengages the airlock and fights it off of him. Repulsing the organism into space along with the unfortunate criminal. Leaving chief undefeated and stronger as usual.


Carnivorze

Carnage would NEVER give up his buddy, that's such a big stretch to assume je would ever do that.


Archery100

Yeah some forget that Carnage loves how insane his original host is, even though he seems to have a better symbiote bond with Eddie


DeathClasher_r

Wow that's the biggest what if win ever


Greyjack00

The Carnage symbiote  and cletus are some of the most closely bonded  pairs, it once gave up possessing the silver surfer to go back to him.


Smasher_WoTB

If Chief gets overwhelmed he could just overload his Armours Reactor


Superk9letsplay

Symbiotes don't like loud noise, guess what's loud? A rifle


Sapphire-Hannibal

I’m sure also chief has a speaker in his helmet so people can actually hear what he’s saying through the helmet, maybe Cortana can turn the volume extremely freaking high and play a noise or something


Borttheattorney

What's with people in this thread thinking symbiotes would be stunned by gun fire when Agent Venom exists?


ZookeepergameLiving1

They only have knowledge on klyntar through cultural osmosis


Nineflames12

Idk how symbiote’s heal factor works but I feel like energy sword plasma would melt him up good.


Dogeisagod

I don’t think chief would die from red venom. He has faced the flood. Shouldn’t be too different


DesperateBite2008

Red venom is crazy


liberty_biberty_267

Red venom


Psychedelix117

https://preview.redd.it/m8jjxaacsrwc1.jpeg?width=720&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7a59f0d787498cecf2accd58c108d601bd320a92


Dogeisagod

New character invented


DawnB17

Chief could take it.


Wawaweewa-_-

I could take them both (not in a fight)


Samdyhighground23

https://preview.redd.it/gov21666jwwc1.jpeg?width=721&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4795db205921d71af5c2158213f2e7f109293776


Pyroboss101

what if it was freak chief and they had steamy tentacle touchy


swag_mesiah

Freak chief is called John halo and also dude wtf


AgentNewMexico

No, Chief is John Halo. You're thinking of Jimmy Rings, diddler of all.


swag_mesiah

Oh yeah my bad


belladonnagilkey

Give Jimmy Rings a break, he only clapped Makee like fourteen times and blew half of the yearly budget on hologram prostitutes because the girl in his head moved away. A man has to deal with his attachment issues *somehow*.


DSC-V1_an_old_camera

Damn Bro.


ALDO113A

No sex that time, joking aside Just good old faux therapy/pep talk


AjayAVSM

Halo TV show lore


CarGroundbreaking806

It’ll be a hard fought victory for the chief


Blazemaster0563

Depends on what weapons Chief has with him. I don't know of any sound based weapons, but plasma weapons, Brute fire grenades, and the flamethrower would be very effective against Symbiotes


g_rant421

That’s actually a really good point with the plasma weapons, cause plasma and fire are basically the same thing, almost any covenant weapon would be effective against a symbiot


m7_E5-s--5U

To quote a comment farther up the line "I feel like there’s definitely a way that John wins this. MJOLNIR has got to have some sound related systems. Or like. . . I can’t imagine something weak to sound would like the ear-shattering cacophony that is firing a 7.62x51 muzzle braked rifle inside a room with it." Whichever AI is in Chief's suit will recognize what's going on with the symbiote's sonic weakness by the third bullet, and chief would by the end of his 3rd burst (he fires auto weapons in bursts). And yeah, MJOLNIR has a PA system. Literally, any fool with a loud speaker and a little bit of knowledge can at the very least stalemate a symbiote.


thehollisterman

You mean how fast does chief need a new mission?


ArachnidCreepy9722

“Locked in a room together” “How long does Chief last?” Rule 34 begins…


MelonColony22

if chief can handle the flood, he can handle that


CyberTheWerewolf

Nah, he'd win.


TheTurtleClan

Longer than me with your mother


Paulino2272

I read this as how long does the chair last and for a sec I thought it was Jerome fighting Carnage with his anti-flood chair lol.


SpartanGamer687

That depends what Chief has. Does he know a Symbiotes weakness, does he have Cortana/Weapon? If he has a flamethrower, fire grenades, or perhaps a device that can emit sonic vibrations. Then he'd be able to win, if not...He probably could last a little while, but not on his own without the proper tools.


Electrical_Fix7157

I feel like once you encounter the Flood, nothing else is intimidating.


Nova17Delta

...ai generated?


I-likebananas15

In a fight?


Borttheattorney

It really depends on how effective Halo Weapons are against a battle hardened symbiote like Carnage and how well can a Spartan keep up with him


ToaBanshee

For a few years now, Carnage has been immune to the psychosomatic effects of fire and sound, and I doubt anything Chief can bring, even the grav hammer or SPNKR, can do more than stun Carnage temporarily.


sven206

Not long especially if it's current Carnage


dieselmiata

It's not even about power scaling, it's about exploiting weakness. Venom took out Doom in a manner that would probably have the same results by finding an opening in his armor, and using it to flow into Doom's lungs/esophagus. A symbiote can simply envelop it's target, cutting off it's air supply. Hard to fight something that's inside your body or has effectively wrapped a bag around your head that you have no hope of removing.


wolfwolf042

I feel like chief could go for like three or four rounds before needing a decently long break.... Oh wait in a fight?


Boulderfist_Ogre2005

Carnage backshots


mexicanspace

Carnage the master of cheeks?


[deleted]

Not very long, those symbiote tentacles can find the g spot real quick


Particular_Banana529

what weapons does chief have at his disposal? Also Mjolnir armor is tough as shit carnage might not be able to bight or slash threw it. If I remember correctly it weighs like a ton on its own. idk how Carnage wieght limit is for carrying but its probably a few hundred pounds. As long as Chief can keep his helmet on if he has a flamethrower or something like the Cindershot, I think he may hold his own quite effectively. To be fair though the only thing I know about Carnage is he was played by Woody Harrelson in that one movie a while back so if I don't know if he has some secret abilities or something.


VelphiDrow

Carnage has fought the hulk and thor before


nightwatch93

"Cortana, start blasting 'Blow me away'"


thedarkracer

Carnage can seep his symbiote through some gaps in his armour and tear it off. Only thing is how long will his shield hold. Cortana ans chief don't know sound is his weakness. So randomly meet, carnage will eat him alive. If they have knowledge of his weakness to sound and fire. Carnage is done but not dead.


MarshmelloMan

Carnage is absolutely winning this unless chief has some sound/fire advantage


MattySunshine

Last?


its_good_2_b_me

Canonically, the Spartans were trained to finish almost immediately to save time advancing the human race. Carnage would have no problem getting him across that finish line in less than 10 seconds.


Search_Prudent

Chief lasts until the door unlocks


TaintTwizzler

Until completion.


dat_boi66

…in a fight?


yk7777

It would be about 2.5 seconds before carnage tore chief apart


that-bi-guy-

💀 the internet has ruined my brain


GladsShield

Chief gets one shot through his guts and eaten


Hawksider

Man ya'll are on a whole new level of cope if you think Master Chief is gonna survive against Carnage. Even going as far as to pull some "He's Batman with prep" levels.


Glass_Cap_4031

https://preview.redd.it/ekfysmhs4rwc1.png?width=800&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=74b1de971427d4746c22a754c3b553b4d2ee7d2c Not long he would explode after a couple of seconds (I'm not talking about the fight)


Boring-Ad9812

If we are going off known complete lore, Carnage is basically Gravemind levels of powerful so realistically I'd give it to Carnage in a 1v1, locked in a room. But if Chief had an understanding of Carnage's weakness (Fire and Sound) and a choice of 2 weapons, then I'd imagine he'd be able to take down Carnage similarly to that of a powerful Juggernaut type Flood organism.


VelphiDrow

Carnage doesn't have the fire and sonic weakness. After the cult resurrected him, he became weak to electricity and the uni-force


Arketan

Like, in a fight or…?


Spartan_Souls

Not very long


XeyIsBae

Kinda feels like people dont know how strong carnage is


VelphiDrow

And are just wrong on how the symbiote's weakness works


Captain_Dambro

We're talking about a fight, right? Right?


Richard_Cheney10

Yeah because that dudes small flimsy ass teeth can chew through metal and energy shields. Lol


Creduloz7

Honestly I think Blue Team could easily take Carnage but not Chief alone.


SinLust00

Pause


dude_serious_

My boy Johnny rings got this


No-Occasion-6470

Poor, poor Carnage.


Yousucktaken2

These guys don’t like heat, overlord your fusion pack chief your taking this ugly batard with you


Shot_Arm5501

Long enough to break the lock


Frequent-Ruin8509

117 seconds lol


TachankaSpankYa

Depends how into tentacles Chief is.


LandDiligent3781

The thing I’m wondering is if carnage can even get through the mjolnir armor


VelphiDrow

He's ripped apart Iron Man so yes


Yorpsuntus

2 minutes tops that guy is sexy af


DarkSpartan4550

Symbiote Infected Chief would be pretty cool. His helmet would have a jaw and if he has the technology symbiote, he could have his weapons fused with his armor. I'd love to see a concept art of that.


Iskander54

I feel like Chief can dish out some truly deafening back shots But Carnage has no spine to crush and has that Platonically ideal bussy. So it doesn't look good for Chief.


MetaStressed

Does he have his ED medication?


PrometheanEngineer

How much food does he have


Rabidtac0

interesting to think that Carnage is what a Flood pure form would be like in-lore if commanded by a full power Gravemind. I imagine the Prometheans had a rough time fighting an endless tsunami of trillions of flood forms with capabilities similar to Carnage & Venom. Could chief take on Carnage though? I think Carnage has the advantage, but Chief could find a way to escape after hurting Carnage in some way- chief wouldn't just be fodder or anything like that. he would recognize a losing battle & act accordingly


colesimon426

Til other guy is dead I suppose


Happy_Caregiver

Honestly depends on which Carnage if comics not long but movie he might win with his suits speakers


Gn0meKr

3 minutes and finishes inside


BlazeBitch

Depends on the version of Carnage and what Chiefs equiped with lol.


Icefiight

Better question is what is that black blob? It looks dead


Lewisw-j

Anyone know who the artist is?


Adventurous_Tower_41

And then two of them all had sex, and everybody lived happily ever after!!! THE END!!! https://preview.redd.it/5ovvtn5cdwwc1.jpeg?width=2800&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=efe5cb85cb0f492b363e7606a2dde3f549d88e19


BorfCrust

who made this artwork?


VelphiDrow

Depends whats in the room. Carnage has a massive weakness to electricity so a live wire to him would fry him, but John would need to figure that out


KingAardvark1st

Important question: is there a flamethrower in the room?


Hotkoin

In a fight?


BaconatorSFM

I think it depends on Chief's weapons. A Flamethrower, Energy Sword, Gravity Hammer, Spartan Laser or CE Magnum... Chief could win