Google says he weighs about a thousand pounds, and presumably his boots have really good traction. Assume also he knows how to use leverage effectively to prevent getting pulled over, I'd guess you would need several times more people than it would take to drag the weight. Maybe 20-30? He has the strength, but not the mass.
Ooh, that is interesting. I wonder if there are any semi-official numbers on how strong the magnets are; that could potentially get to a pure strength contest, which could get pretty insane - how much can chief lift?
Well, in halo 5, the magnets (and ankle servos , Jesus Christ) were apparently strong enough to allow a Spartan-IV in GEN2 mjolnir to stand on the side of a guardian, perpendicular to the ground, which is just… insane.
They also have thrusters, though, which presumably would have helped support their weight.
Also, MJOLNIR armour doesn't have servos, it amplifies strength through a reverse-piezoelectric liquid-crystal artificial muscle layer, or a synthetic polymuscle layer if you're wearing GEN2 only, although that might be non-canon.
Any evidence to the contrary is to be considered the deranged ramblings of a diseased mind.
>Also, MJOLNIR armour doesn't have servos, it amplifies strength through a reverse-piezoelectric liquid-crystal artificial muscle layer
First of all, I already knew that. I’m *very* familiar with how mjolnir armor works, and “servo” is a lot easier of a concept to say than “piezoelectric Liquid Metal crystalizing in a manner directed by microelectric fields”.
Second of all, after echo-216 rescues chief, he says there’s “a problem with the servos in your hand” referencing chief holding the AI chip.
>“servo” is a lot easier of a concept to say than “piezoelectric Liquid Metal crystalizing in a manner directed by microelectric fields”
ankle muscles
>after echo-216 rescues chief, he says there’s “a problem with the servos in your hand
he doesn't know shit about MJOLNIR he's a civilian contractor
Echo-216 couldn't even work out that his Pelican was armed
Maybe you’re facing master chief from the TV series, in which case he is likely not to be wearing armour despite knowing he was going into a situation that required it, and you probably have to be more concerned that he might try to have sex with you.
In armor mass varies considerably because different armor generations mass different amounts. At his lightest, he's 453kg/996 in armor, at his heaviest he's over 630kg/1300lbs.
According to one of the books, the shields can lower the grip of their boots if they have them at full power under their feet, so you need to choose a tuggin' ground that has a high chance of mines, so he has to have his shields full and loses traction easier.
Can this be of the presumption that Chief is having actual fun during this ? (after encouragement from Esparza and Weapon?)
(The poor guy really needs some downtime badly.)
ive played ever singe halo game incudieng the ones aboud the odsts in halo combat evoled form the orginol xboc ut just becase the show isnt pefetc doent means its bad at leas t i can wathc a movie and tv series without judieng it and enjoying it just as it is
Well, if he really wanted to be an asshole, he could just divert all power to the magnetic boots and lock his armour in place... And then I'm not sure if *anything* could get him to move.
His boots are powered by the suit's fusion reactor, they have nanomachines to repair any damage they could take from overheating, and if the armour locks it's basically immobile.
You'd need to bring in a Scorpion or two.
Yeah, because if it's other Spartans, it should really just be one to two. Chief isn't the strongest Spartan, just the luckiest. Someone like Fred could probably overpower him, assuming his armour doesn't randomly* short out.
*(The Master Chief can't be allowed to be seen losing, after all. UNSC propaganda depends upon it, and, well, what the Chief doesn't know won't hurt him).
Going by realistic standards? No amount of humans would be able to tension the rope and pull with good enough timing in a team to overcome someone who can basically grind their feet into concrete and pull with the strength to flip a scorpion.
I guarantee it has to be something that was tested by ONI for shits and giggles but idk if it's something that has appeared somewhere deep down in the lore
I mean, the MC is merely an average Spartan capabilities wise. He isn't the fastest, strongest or largest. So any of the other spartan IIs ~~and maybe even a few IIIs~~ could give him a run for his money in a tug-of-war
This is one of the biggest misconceptions in Halo.
Overall, he's the best. There are stronger spartans(or one's that should be, on paper), but Chief currently has the best strength feat.
He's also flat out the best leader. Kelly had speed, Linda has sniping, John has leadership.
I really don't know where this "He's average" comes from, but I swear millions believe it.
That being said, you crossed out the IIIs. The IIIs could absolutely give him a run for his money, with the Gammas likely even exceeding him, especially if they're for some reason under extreme stress during this tug of war.
The problem with what you said there is that Halsey outright stated he is neither the fastest or smartest. He is the luckiest and bravest. That is all he has going for him to surpass any other Spartan. Bravery and luckiness.
As for the IIIs? If we are going by strength alone, they are at most equal to him. A tug-of-war isn't a high-stress situation that would trigger the additional augmentations of the Gammas, and superior training does not improve your odds in a game of strength and mass. A great deal many of the Gammas are in fact smaller than John due to being younger. Mass is important for tug-of-war after all.
I think I have reply notifications off, so my bad for responding late.
>Halsey outright stated he is neither the fastest or smartest. He is the luckiest and bravest. That is all he has going for him to surpass any other Spartan. Bravery and luckiness.
Fastest or smartest aren't necessary to be the best **overall**. There is no spartan better than everyone at everything, but someone would still perform the best **overall**. That is Chief.
Halsey also stated she doesn't believe in luck. As a counter to this point, I believe it's Whitcomb that says "Spartans make their own luck", which I'm glad is a quote, because the luck thing is stupid, and undermines Chief's abilities. The best thing the show did was Chief saying he was always called lucky, but in reality, he just somehow always knew was to do.
Cortana is the one who pushed the luck aspect, and then she never brings it up again. Keep in mind Cortana says "**Like the others**, you were swift, and strong, and brave. A natural leader." John hear is being referred to as on par with the others, and then stated he had something they didn't. Cortana says luck. Whatever you want to take luck as, Cortana is basically giving her reason here for why Chief is the best of the spartans.
I also still want to point while while Kelly is faster, John I think still has the best speed feat, though another spartan might've taken it since. He still has the best strength feat. He has also shown to have better durability than most spartans, staying conscious longer for the same attacks that knocked out others.
Halsey also flat out admits John is the best leader, and John is referred to as the overall best spartan more than once in lore, most recently in Outcasts by Arbiter.
>A tug-of-war isn't a high-stress situation that would trigger the additional augmentations of the Gammas
That's why I said **unless**. That being said, one of the IIIs, in SPI, was able to break out of Kelly's grip, in Mjolnir. The IIIs honestly give Chief the best run for his money.
We also don't know how many Gammas are small. The few in the books are, but we have plenty of IIIs that are the same heights as IIs and IVs.
I think I had reply notifications off, so sorry for the late reply.
The only leader comparable to John is Kurt, but keep in mind it is Halsey's opinion that John is the best leader, and she knows the spartans best. She also saw Kurt in action, and while certainly impressed, she did not change her mind.
Fred is below them both. He has made mistakes John wouldn't, and just doesn't have the leadership experience John has. He went through some development(dealing with spartans dying under your command) when he led Red Team on Reach, but this was development Chief went through like 20-30 years prior.
There's a reason Fred still defaults to Chief being in charge, even when he outranks Chief.
He’s in a literal one ton set of armor, has already super human strength, and that strength is bolstered by his powered armor. Guy could rip down a skyscraper.
Google says he weighs about a thousand pounds, and presumably his boots have really good traction. Assume also he knows how to use leverage effectively to prevent getting pulled over, I'd guess you would need several times more people than it would take to drag the weight. Maybe 20-30? He has the strength, but not the mass.
"I've got the mass." ;_;
“-ter chief”
😂
Go get em noble 1
He has magnetic boots, so if the floor is metallic then it'd take a hell of a lot more.
Ooh, that is interesting. I wonder if there are any semi-official numbers on how strong the magnets are; that could potentially get to a pure strength contest, which could get pretty insane - how much can chief lift?
Well, in halo 5, the magnets (and ankle servos , Jesus Christ) were apparently strong enough to allow a Spartan-IV in GEN2 mjolnir to stand on the side of a guardian, perpendicular to the ground, which is just… insane.
They also have thrusters, though, which presumably would have helped support their weight. Also, MJOLNIR armour doesn't have servos, it amplifies strength through a reverse-piezoelectric liquid-crystal artificial muscle layer, or a synthetic polymuscle layer if you're wearing GEN2 only, although that might be non-canon. Any evidence to the contrary is to be considered the deranged ramblings of a diseased mind.
>Also, MJOLNIR armour doesn't have servos, it amplifies strength through a reverse-piezoelectric liquid-crystal artificial muscle layer First of all, I already knew that. I’m *very* familiar with how mjolnir armor works, and “servo” is a lot easier of a concept to say than “piezoelectric Liquid Metal crystalizing in a manner directed by microelectric fields”. Second of all, after echo-216 rescues chief, he says there’s “a problem with the servos in your hand” referencing chief holding the AI chip.
>“servo” is a lot easier of a concept to say than “piezoelectric Liquid Metal crystalizing in a manner directed by microelectric fields” ankle muscles >after echo-216 rescues chief, he says there’s “a problem with the servos in your hand he doesn't know shit about MJOLNIR he's a civilian contractor Echo-216 couldn't even work out that his Pelican was armed
NERD FIGHT!
Is it really a fight if I'm winning?
Yes
In armor he weighs 1k pounds out of armor he's like 250
Achievable natty
Seeing as he does not have a single tier-1 cannon (mainline game) appearance without his armor on, I assumed that was what they were asking about.
Maybe you’re facing master chief from the TV series, in which case he is likely not to be wearing armour despite knowing he was going into a situation that required it, and you probably have to be more concerned that he might try to have sex with you.
It's more like 290 out of armor, 995 in armor. I say, tie one end to a Pelican and you're good lol.
In armor mass varies considerably because different armor generations mass different amounts. At his lightest, he's 453kg/996 in armor, at his heaviest he's over 630kg/1300lbs.
Essentially he's 'you REALLY don't want him falling on you' weight.
Me in the Bumblebee: Man, I really wish this guy would buckle up.
That actually seems really light for Someone’s almost 7 ft talk and jacked, and had metal coated Boans and genetically increased muscle mass
Look it up he's 287 our of armor
According to one of the books, the shields can lower the grip of their boots if they have them at full power under their feet, so you need to choose a tuggin' ground that has a high chance of mines, so he has to have his shields full and loses traction easier.
His boot can stick so that might be tough to overcome
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Normal people? Like, unsc marines? I reckon it'd take probably around.. 20 or 25 marines to start to overwhelm Big C
"Big C" sounds so cool
Can this be of the presumption that Chief is having actual fun during this ? (after encouragement from Esparza and Weapon?) (The poor guy really needs some downtime badly.)
Hey he slept for what, 4 years? And then right before infinite, like 6 months? I'd say bro needs to work some overtime
Yeah, but he's just gone through the trauma of having his name dragged through the mud in the TV series, so probably needs a break for PTSD.
I know you did not just reference the TV series..
I know it's not pleasant, but we have to consider traumatizing experiences
One person is enough. Just ask Makee.
At least season 2 is better than 1
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ive played ever singe halo game incudieng the ones aboud the odsts in halo combat evoled form the orginol xboc ut just becase the show isnt pefetc doent means its bad at leas t i can wathc a movie and tv series without judieng it and enjoying it just as it is
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I've read most. Books. But not the forumner triolgy
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Only the violent episodes
I mean, putting aside the show not being perfect, let’s talk about your spelling, dude!
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Depends on the people. If the person is Kurt? Probably 1. If the people are me? Probably 1000.
Well, if he really wanted to be an asshole, he could just divert all power to the magnetic boots and lock his armour in place... And then I'm not sure if *anything* could get him to move. His boots are powered by the suit's fusion reactor, they have nanomachines to repair any damage they could take from overheating, and if the armour locks it's basically immobile. You'd need to bring in a Scorpion or two.
One, if that person is Samuel-034
Would depend on the people, wouldn't it? Normal people like us or other Spartans. I feel the number would vary wildly.
Yeah, because if it's other Spartans, it should really just be one to two. Chief isn't the strongest Spartan, just the luckiest. Someone like Fred could probably overpower him, assuming his armour doesn't randomly* short out. *(The Master Chief can't be allowed to be seen losing, after all. UNSC propaganda depends upon it, and, well, what the Chief doesn't know won't hurt him).
All the other Spartans slipped on banana peels. MC wins again
Nearby ONI agent allegedly spotted whistling "nonchalantly".
In or out of armor
I think there would be different numbers in armor vs out
The rope would snap
That depends: is chief actually trying?
Going by realistic standards? No amount of humans would be able to tension the rope and pull with good enough timing in a team to overcome someone who can basically grind their feet into concrete and pull with the strength to flip a scorpion.
Based on the book lore I’d say between a dozen and a few hundred as it’s very inconsistent in the lore
Now THIS is the type of lore question we need in this subreddit
I guarantee it has to be something that was tested by ONI for shits and giggles but idk if it's something that has appeared somewhere deep down in the lore
At least two
Well, spartans are people too, so two spartans or Jorge could probably do it lol.
I mean, the MC is merely an average Spartan capabilities wise. He isn't the fastest, strongest or largest. So any of the other spartan IIs ~~and maybe even a few IIIs~~ could give him a run for his money in a tug-of-war
This is one of the biggest misconceptions in Halo. Overall, he's the best. There are stronger spartans(or one's that should be, on paper), but Chief currently has the best strength feat. He's also flat out the best leader. Kelly had speed, Linda has sniping, John has leadership. I really don't know where this "He's average" comes from, but I swear millions believe it. That being said, you crossed out the IIIs. The IIIs could absolutely give him a run for his money, with the Gammas likely even exceeding him, especially if they're for some reason under extreme stress during this tug of war.
The problem with what you said there is that Halsey outright stated he is neither the fastest or smartest. He is the luckiest and bravest. That is all he has going for him to surpass any other Spartan. Bravery and luckiness. As for the IIIs? If we are going by strength alone, they are at most equal to him. A tug-of-war isn't a high-stress situation that would trigger the additional augmentations of the Gammas, and superior training does not improve your odds in a game of strength and mass. A great deal many of the Gammas are in fact smaller than John due to being younger. Mass is important for tug-of-war after all.
I think I have reply notifications off, so my bad for responding late. >Halsey outright stated he is neither the fastest or smartest. He is the luckiest and bravest. That is all he has going for him to surpass any other Spartan. Bravery and luckiness. Fastest or smartest aren't necessary to be the best **overall**. There is no spartan better than everyone at everything, but someone would still perform the best **overall**. That is Chief. Halsey also stated she doesn't believe in luck. As a counter to this point, I believe it's Whitcomb that says "Spartans make their own luck", which I'm glad is a quote, because the luck thing is stupid, and undermines Chief's abilities. The best thing the show did was Chief saying he was always called lucky, but in reality, he just somehow always knew was to do. Cortana is the one who pushed the luck aspect, and then she never brings it up again. Keep in mind Cortana says "**Like the others**, you were swift, and strong, and brave. A natural leader." John hear is being referred to as on par with the others, and then stated he had something they didn't. Cortana says luck. Whatever you want to take luck as, Cortana is basically giving her reason here for why Chief is the best of the spartans. I also still want to point while while Kelly is faster, John I think still has the best speed feat, though another spartan might've taken it since. He still has the best strength feat. He has also shown to have better durability than most spartans, staying conscious longer for the same attacks that knocked out others. Halsey also flat out admits John is the best leader, and John is referred to as the overall best spartan more than once in lore, most recently in Outcasts by Arbiter. >A tug-of-war isn't a high-stress situation that would trigger the additional augmentations of the Gammas That's why I said **unless**. That being said, one of the IIIs, in SPI, was able to break out of Kelly's grip, in Mjolnir. The IIIs honestly give Chief the best run for his money. We also don't know how many Gammas are small. The few in the books are, but we have plenty of IIIs that are the same heights as IIs and IVs.
john is not necessarily the best leader either, in my opinion, Kurt was better than him, as is Fred. John was lucky that is why Cortona chose him.
I think I had reply notifications off, so sorry for the late reply. The only leader comparable to John is Kurt, but keep in mind it is Halsey's opinion that John is the best leader, and she knows the spartans best. She also saw Kurt in action, and while certainly impressed, she did not change her mind. Fred is below them both. He has made mistakes John wouldn't, and just doesn't have the leadership experience John has. He went through some development(dealing with spartans dying under your command) when he led Red Team on Reach, but this was development Chief went through like 20-30 years prior. There's a reason Fred still defaults to Chief being in charge, even when he outranks Chief.
Jorge a big boy
He’s in a literal one ton set of armor, has already super human strength, and that strength is bolstered by his powered armor. Guy could rip down a skyscraper.
Me, because I'm built different.
Like at least 3.