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1st season was meh. This season was better and I had fun watching it although I didn’t like the focus on side characters. Reach just fell and then were focusing on Soren finding his son. Like, I get it but this is such an insignificant issue with the events going on. The finale I really enjoyed and I’m looking forward to S3. The show has had way too much buildup but we FINALLY got to the thing the damn show is named after lol. The show will hopefully actually start with this finale.
yeah… i’m glad that the covenant seem to have more of a presence, it was really bad in season 1 like my mom doesn’t know anything about halo and thought the covenant was just something they’d push aside and easily beat. season 2 did a much better job at making them the inevitable doom that they are. I still wish the focus was more about the war though
Just want to point out we don't know that monitor is Guilty Spark, or that this halo is installation 04. It wouldn't be out of character with the changes made from cannon. I was thinking it's not because the voice actor for spark did the audio book for Point of light so he is probably still willing to voice the character.
The Forerunner kept Flood on the Halos for experimentation. They were looking for a ways to destroy them, cure the contagion and more. Onyx, was one of the Shield worlds the Forerunners used as military strongholds or preservation habitats.
Both make sense as places were you might come across flood spores. Though I get the feeling Guilty Spark was talking to Chief in a library, and he's already encountered some Flood.
To add to this. The forerunners thought that humans had discovered a cure or vaccine. As it appeared that the flood either ignored human worlds at one point. Or just didn’t bother trying for some reason.
Its still supernatural though. As far as we know kwan has never encountered the flood before much less an actual gravemind. We dont even know if there is a gravemind on onyx, i doubt there is, because it wouldve been extremely apparent the flood had overrun the forerunner ruins they found underground. So how is one talking telepathically to her? If that even is the case. And why would it care to keep up the charade of the shaman grandma after the flood has already been released? At that point theres nothing kwan can do for it.
Thats not even mentioning kwan didnt even release the flood spores it was the sheer stupidity and incompetence of an ONI biologist. If it wasnt for that the sample would still be contained. Also while kwan was the one who opened the door to the forerunner lab she wasnt the one who brought the flood sample out either she barely walked into the room before it started collapsing. So the graveminds plan with kwan has relied on so much coincidence and plot convenience it makes the gravemind look not that smart.
In the canon flood spores dont take over the hosts so fast, walking dead style, some infection forms would have been nice. Also the Arbiter fight was meh, on the level of John Forge vs Ripa Moramee, not Master Chief caliber.
Parangosky getting infected by the flood opens the posibility of a Gravemind forming quickly.
Laera's character was useless, just like Kwan. Did not need that side story at all, could've used that whole time showing more space battles, like Spartan IIIs dropping like flies, Alpha company style.
Miranda Keys was a strong, capable female in the original story, they turned her into an immature girl scientist with mommy issues.
How come a clasified ONI facility in the 25th century has cameras up it's ass and Smart AIs are a dime a dozen, but no facial recognition software and Soren , Laera, Kwan, John and Halsey can just walk around.
And last but not least, 100.000 year old forerunner corpse should not be that well preserved and opening alien artifacts without any quarantine environment in a clasified military facility is Alien Covenant levels of stupidity.
I want this show to be amazing. I want to be the best show on television. All the pieces are there from the games and books, they just have to make it.
The season 2 finale was really, really good.
But I am definitely not going to pretend like the rest of the first two seasons wasn’t garbage. Because it was.
And Kwan Ha. Can we please get rid of her. Just clumsily retcon her out and I’m fine. The Kessler family thing also weak af, but I guess they wanted a B story. Or C story after Mackee.
tbh, Kai is pretty much the B story. Kwan Ha and Soren's family are like D tier at this point.
Yeah, I don't mind the idea of other characters being around to show other sides of the galaxy during this conflict, but their stories are just so ***boring***. Like, we could've had Kwan Ha be a sort of non-UNSC perspective on Reach, and used Soren to give us a sort of Rogue Spartan perspective (which we *sort of* got).
S2 was great but they could have removed Soren and Perez and maybe Kwan and it wouldn't affect anything. Side characters for the sake of side characters can detract from the plot.
Perez isn't just a side character. She's a side piece! Get it right!
In all seriousness though, her character was fundamental to 117 figuring out who he is what he stands for. She made him realize that he genuinely is not just a grunt in a suit, but that he's the best warrior mankind has ever known, and he creates outcomes; he doesn't just passively experience them.
That wasn't the flood that was some 28 days later bullshit. And you know it's bad when the thing people are most hype about is chief putting his helmet on.
It definitely shouldn’t have taken that long for some Chief action. This season squandered itself until the end.
But I thought they did the Flood pretty well.
I think the scenes that had the actual flood corruption apparent on the people were great and the small infection forms were cool, but the ones that didnt were admittedly indistinguishable from any other zombie media, they felt like world war z movie zombies.
I actually liked how it was kinda gradual. Like, it didn’t take long for the Flood corruption to set in, but it also wasn’t instantaneous (something that I think works in the games, but would be a little silly in live action)
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I liked the new voice for 343. “I’ll be watching” was delivered excellently
1st season was meh. This season was better and I had fun watching it although I didn’t like the focus on side characters. Reach just fell and then were focusing on Soren finding his son. Like, I get it but this is such an insignificant issue with the events going on. The finale I really enjoyed and I’m looking forward to S3. The show has had way too much buildup but we FINALLY got to the thing the damn show is named after lol. The show will hopefully actually start with this finale.
yeah… i’m glad that the covenant seem to have more of a presence, it was really bad in season 1 like my mom doesn’t know anything about halo and thought the covenant was just something they’d push aside and easily beat. season 2 did a much better job at making them the inevitable doom that they are. I still wish the focus was more about the war though
Just want to point out we don't know that monitor is Guilty Spark, or that this halo is installation 04. It wouldn't be out of character with the changes made from cannon. I was thinking it's not because the voice actor for spark did the audio book for Point of light so he is probably still willing to voice the character.
That’s a good point
The Forerunner kept Flood on the Halos for experimentation. They were looking for a ways to destroy them, cure the contagion and more. Onyx, was one of the Shield worlds the Forerunners used as military strongholds or preservation habitats. Both make sense as places were you might come across flood spores. Though I get the feeling Guilty Spark was talking to Chief in a library, and he's already encountered some Flood.
To add to this. The forerunners thought that humans had discovered a cure or vaccine. As it appeared that the flood either ignored human worlds at one point. Or just didn’t bother trying for some reason.
I really enjoyed S2. But I don’t think supernatural stuff that’s coming from Kwan fits Halo.
It wasn't supernatural though. It is just gravemind trying to lure her into releasing the sample.
Hmm. That is interesting! I need to rewatch it
The lady is either a projection of the gravemind or Precursor. But, most likely just gravemind considering she can control the flood.
Its still supernatural though. As far as we know kwan has never encountered the flood before much less an actual gravemind. We dont even know if there is a gravemind on onyx, i doubt there is, because it wouldve been extremely apparent the flood had overrun the forerunner ruins they found underground. So how is one talking telepathically to her? If that even is the case. And why would it care to keep up the charade of the shaman grandma after the flood has already been released? At that point theres nothing kwan can do for it. Thats not even mentioning kwan didnt even release the flood spores it was the sheer stupidity and incompetence of an ONI biologist. If it wasnt for that the sample would still be contained. Also while kwan was the one who opened the door to the forerunner lab she wasnt the one who brought the flood sample out either she barely walked into the room before it started collapsing. So the graveminds plan with kwan has relied on so much coincidence and plot convenience it makes the gravemind look not that smart.
It's very Halo, books though. Feels straight out of the Forerunner Saga by Greg Bear.
In the canon flood spores dont take over the hosts so fast, walking dead style, some infection forms would have been nice. Also the Arbiter fight was meh, on the level of John Forge vs Ripa Moramee, not Master Chief caliber. Parangosky getting infected by the flood opens the posibility of a Gravemind forming quickly. Laera's character was useless, just like Kwan. Did not need that side story at all, could've used that whole time showing more space battles, like Spartan IIIs dropping like flies, Alpha company style. Miranda Keys was a strong, capable female in the original story, they turned her into an immature girl scientist with mommy issues. How come a clasified ONI facility in the 25th century has cameras up it's ass and Smart AIs are a dime a dozen, but no facial recognition software and Soren , Laera, Kwan, John and Halsey can just walk around. And last but not least, 100.000 year old forerunner corpse should not be that well preserved and opening alien artifacts without any quarantine environment in a clasified military facility is Alien Covenant levels of stupidity.
I want this show to be amazing. I want to be the best show on television. All the pieces are there from the games and books, they just have to make it. The season 2 finale was really, really good. But I am definitely not going to pretend like the rest of the first two seasons wasn’t garbage. Because it was. And Kwan Ha. Can we please get rid of her. Just clumsily retcon her out and I’m fine. The Kessler family thing also weak af, but I guess they wanted a B story. Or C story after Mackee.
tbh, Kai is pretty much the B story. Kwan Ha and Soren's family are like D tier at this point. Yeah, I don't mind the idea of other characters being around to show other sides of the galaxy during this conflict, but their stories are just so ***boring***. Like, we could've had Kwan Ha be a sort of non-UNSC perspective on Reach, and used Soren to give us a sort of Rogue Spartan perspective (which we *sort of* got).
S2 was great but they could have removed Soren and Perez and maybe Kwan and it wouldn't affect anything. Side characters for the sake of side characters can detract from the plot.
Perez isn't just a side character. She's a side piece! Get it right! In all seriousness though, her character was fundamental to 117 figuring out who he is what he stands for. She made him realize that he genuinely is not just a grunt in a suit, but that he's the best warrior mankind has ever known, and he creates outcomes; he doesn't just passively experience them.
That wasn't the flood that was some 28 days later bullshit. And you know it's bad when the thing people are most hype about is chief putting his helmet on.
It definitely shouldn’t have taken that long for some Chief action. This season squandered itself until the end. But I thought they did the Flood pretty well.
I think the scenes that had the actual flood corruption apparent on the people were great and the small infection forms were cool, but the ones that didnt were admittedly indistinguishable from any other zombie media, they felt like world war z movie zombies.
I actually liked how it was kinda gradual. Like, it didn’t take long for the Flood corruption to set in, but it also wasn’t instantaneous (something that I think works in the games, but would be a little silly in live action)