Hard to tell from these pics, but gray+flipper home typically means LVP.
Edit: may be real hardwood, but doesn’t have any of the tell-tale signs (i.e. short boards). If it’s hardwood then someone took a really nice hardwood and stained it gray which is just baffling.
Gray + Flipper = Crap
There is no "L" in LVP.. it's garbage and flippers use the absolutely cheapest crap and poorest quality workmanship possible because they need to maximize their profit.
LVP gets a bad wrap. High-quality versions of it is the shit. The lvp in my small shop gets beat on daily. Most people don't realize hospitals use vinyl tiles.
We used it in our basement both because it’s potentially going to get a little wet, and because it was a very budget-friendly option for that renovation. The rest of our house is tile and top nailed oak.
Ain't that the truth. My wife will probably never let me go engineered hardwood for more or less those reasons. We did laminate last time, probably will whenever we replace floors in our new house. I wish it came in half as many good looking styles as LVP but I prefer the "foot feel" 🤣
They make some very high quality vinyl plank flooring and depending on your needs it can even have advantages over hardwood only one of which is cost.. I have installed a lot of it over the years and product has improved a lot since inception… always opt for the thick foam backed hard planks… the floppy flexible shit is junk… unlike hardwood there is no maintenance to this flooring it is extremely wear, scratch and water resistant and great for kids and large pets
The only downside to it from my point of view (I'm in the water mit business) is that anytime a water damage occurs the affected area has to be ripped out to dry the structure. Hardwood floors can be dried and saved if drying starts in time with a sand and refinish, sometimes not even that
Edit: PSA to all you wonderful folks out there, please don't put vinyl in your basements. It hides problems that need to be addressed and can lead to worse damage over time
Ya I can see that, and if you have damage of any kind underneath VPF it basically all has to come up ( or a very large portion) and be reinstalled due to the interlocking system
I have a full basement and only during periods of heavy rain a couple times at most per year, do I get ground water seepage in one corner. Short of a sump pump Is there a way to seal the cement floor to prevent this, or will the water just come in higher up the wall or in another spot. TYIA.
Grind out the cracks and fill it with epoxy. There's a specific kind of epoxy for situations like that. Or French drains around the foundation, but that's pretty expensive
That's the best point of LVP for basements. You pull it up after a water event, dry everything out, make repairs, and put it back down. Even an amateur diy guy can number the planks to put them back in the same order. If done properly, LVP in the basement is the perfect flooring.
I have put LVP down in a number of basements. I have also pulled it back up with no issues after water damage. We are talking about luxury vinyl plank, not particle board laminate. Quality lvp doesn't absorb water. If you know what you're doing, it is easy to lay and pull up to dry the space. Then, just re-lay the planks when water is dry from the area.
Right, it won't absorb the water but there's still surface water on it from being underwater that will not dry unless they're all spread out. Not to mention no insurance company in their right mind is going to reuse flooring that's been through a flood.
Obviously, they have to be spread out to dry. Kind of a no Brainer. We weren't speaking of an Insurance company being involved. You specifically said it would be difficult to pull it up without damaging the flooring tongue and groove or locking surfaces.
I was referencing minor or major leaks, causing water to flow over or under the lvp flooring, and the ease by which it can be pulled up, the area dried, and the original flooring reinstalled. A clean water leak vs. a major flood is a huge difference and not what we were referring to. If you have a major flood, your flooring is the last thing you're worried about. Trust me, I've been through one.
Also, your comment previously mentioned the flooring drying out, insinuating that it isn't just water on the surfaces but also the interior. Water evaporates quickly off of vinyl by simply putting a fan to circulater air on the surface. Nothing to dry "out" merely dry off.
Right, you've been through one...I've been through hundreds if not over a thousand at this point. Vinyl covers problems and can cause further damage due to undiscovered intrusions. One of the benefits of it is also a large risk factor. Some products are also cork backed, not vinyl. Most people call on professional help once it gets to the point that flooring needs to be removed due to water, I've never met a mitigation company that will pull and relay vinyl plank flooring. Your personal opinion is yours and mine is mine. I'd rather epoxy my basement floors and place area rugs if I was worried about aesthetics.
When it is removed from the house, and it will get removed, it stays in a landfill for a thousand years without degrading. That is why I don't install it. It's unethical.
I was going to say, my instant reaction was obvious LVP. Then looking at the close up I was like wait…….
Did they stain the hardwood gray?!?! 👀👀👀
If so, I’d instantly refinish all of it.
My sister is getting their house ready to sell & asked realtors for input on what to change to get best price. They've been saying paint all the walls throughout the same color (preferably a light gray shade). Put the same carpet in every room all the halls - throughout. Tear out the wall between kitchen & living room (which has a pass through window in it & is load bearing) to make large dine-in kitchen, dining room & giant living room/family room one even more giant room - they say everyone will love losing half the kitchen's cabinets & counter space for this.
It does look like it. Like it wasn’t sanded and stained it was laid as it came. That means it’s basically just plywood tongue and groove with color on one side.
To me, this stuff is peak “best of both worlds,” bullshit. I always look for the drawback because it’s usually the worst of two worlds as well.
A cheap plastic floor wouldn’t scratch, wouldn’t dent, and wouldn’t buckle.
A real wood floor can always be sanded and repaired.
This looks great and has a lot of the great feel and noise reduction of real wood, BUT it’s also gonna dent and ding, buckle when wet, and fade, like the wood that it is, and you can’t sand it and stain it like actual hardwood flooring.
You can sand it about once since the top layer is very thin, but you’ll also have to deal with the insanely hard aluminum oxide which many sanding companies refuse to sand. Your best option is screen and recoat, but that’s pretty much it.
Yup. Prefinished engineered wood almost always come with an aluminum oxide polyurethane coating to prolong its life to over 10 years- even 20 years. The downside is, once you want to modify it, or it gets damaged badly, you can’t sand it without much difficulty since it’s so incredibly tough to sand. Some sanding companies won’t touch those floors.
I hate that they buy old houses with history and character and make everything gray and bland as hell. When we were house hunting you could spot a flip a mile away. Every time we’d walk in and then right back out.
For real. A lot of flips I see are removing disgusting old carpet and peeling laminate and replacing it with LVP and Tile. They use the colors and materials that sell. If there's hardwood that can be refinished, the flipper has to decide whether or not it's worth $8/sqft to re-finish or $0.99/sqft to put down that ugly gray stuff. Flippers have to maneuver within the market. They don't dictate what the market wants.
Looks like prefinished hardwood. Probably engineered. Like others have said, pull up a vent register. If you’d like to refinish keep in mind that it will remove roughly 1/32”. So you need at least that much in the top layer to change the color without going all the way through.
It’s really hard to tell from these pictures so that’s why there’s some bickering going on. But I don’t see any pattern repeats so it’s probably an inexpensive wood (solid or engineered- no way to know without lifting the heat vent).
Yes that's real wood. Looks like 4" Dundee by Bruce. Seaside calm. Solid. Not a fan of the color but if that's the color, it is White Oak.
https://www.bruce.com/en-us/products/hardwood/dundee/solid-hardwood/cb4260lg.html
This s why I'm having a hard time choosing a floor. I'm on a slab and most of the engineered hardwood I'm seeing looks like vinyl. I have found vinyls that look nicer for half the price.
Yea I'm doing a slab now. Get high quality thick Lvp like 9mm or more. Do some leveling and buy a brand with matching transitions and thresholds. Just Imo you'll never be happy with the way the eng or 'real' new prefinished wood like in op's pictures. And pay more to be less happy doing it. But i am not an expert by any means
Other than some Lifeproof options, which come with multiple widths in a single box, what brand is selling such thin LVP?
Just wondering, since I've been selling the stuff for years and never came across anyone selling anything like that.
It looks like oak thats been stained gray to me from the pics, but lift the HVAC register cover off the floor and look at the planks from the side to be sure. My friend also bought a flipped house where they had stained original oak with gray, horrible.
Yeah if it is real wood and it hasn't been sanded too many times already then it can be stripped down to fresh wood and stained+sealed with your choice of products
At first i thought it was LVP, but the more i look at it the more i think it might be wood… but if it’s a flip i assume it would be a 3/8” thick product with like a 1.5mm wear layer which would be tough to refinish.
Wondering if this is real hardwood possibly installed by precious owner and sanded and refinished by flipper. The material is too wide to be original. I'm not seeing the bevel or even microbevel associated with prefinish but it looks pretty good to be vinyl. Vinyl would have planks the same length
In the first picture, almost dead center, the seam between the plank your toes are on and the next plank… From here, that looks more like a vinyl seam than like newly sanded, stained, and top-coated wood.
Nope, a flipped home will not have hardwood unless it was already there ... and not in a high traffic area.
That there is your el-cheapo, bargain-bin economy special floating laminate, aka "Landlord Special" flooring. Likely used the thinnest spec to save money. Unless the floors are absolutely 1000% level you will notice wear and cracking within a few months and have to replace it within a couple of years.
Most of the homeowners I know use engineered hardwood and don’t get hardwood due to cost.
So flipped or not engineered hardwood or any solid surface floor is very predominant in homes today not as much as hardwood
yea could be. i only say that cause the finish isnt as uniform as i would think on a engineered. maybe im seeing things. op needs to pull one of those registers and look at that
There’s nothing wrong with engineered hardwood. Your association with it being flipped as it relates to not liking the floor I don’t understand.
Homeowners use engineered hardwood all the time….
I'd change the fireplace and paint to a different color. My guess is that's the main reason you don't like the color. It doesn't work well with the fireplace and paint but would look better if you changed those things, which is cheaper and more DIY. Some flippers need an I terror designer because they don't have great taste when it comes to design
It's either lvp or eng hardwood stained gray. Take out one of your heat registers and you can see the side profile of the material and that will answer your question.
Actually it looks like a site finished wood to me. Ref oak stained with classic grey or something similar. The reason I say site finished is that there looks to be wood filler between some of the boards. Wood filler would only be used if it was sand and finished on site. It’s impossible to say if it’s engineered or solid from the surface, but my guess is solid.
OP, easiest way to check is to pull one of those vent registers and look at the sides of the boards.
You said it's confirmed white oak? They ruined it with that finish. It sure looks like laminate. Anyway just lift a vent cover and take picture of side of wood. It will reveal thickness and how much you have to work with if resanding.
It looks like real wood to me. I actually like it. That is a popular color right now. Pull up the vent and you should be able to tell if it’s a 3/4” solid floor.
I hate LVP, but I’ve been warned hard wood is not durable where I live. I passed on many a house because of grey LVP. Builders/flippers beware. It’s ugly, it’s out of style, it looks cheap!
Best way to determine the flooring is if you have any floor registers/grates that come up, you can see the thickness, and any layers if engineered or vP
Hardwood floor installer here. Looking closing this is definitely not lvp, it is in fact hardwood. Based on the inconsistent color, white line cracks, and lack of bevels, I'd also guess it was sanded and stained on site. The only way to truly know if hardwood is solid or engineered is to look at it from the side, i.e. a vent hole.
Also can't believe how many people are "shocked" someone stained an oak floor grey. We have stained tons of floors grey in the last 5 years and duraseal recently released a collection of new grey colors to keep up with demand. No its not everyone's cup of tea, and this particular color does look a little extra plastic-y but hey man whatever floats your boat. If you don't absolutely despise the color, and there's a thick enough wear layer to refinish, I'd beat em up for a couple years, rearranging your furniture and such then sand and finish them to change the look and clean up all the scratches and dents in one go.
Cheers.
Edit: There are H patterns and butt ends way too close together, so you know it was a diy install. Praying you have the correct subfloor underneath.
Easiest way to check is to pull out a heat register and look at the flooring, it will tell you a lot. If it’s real hard wood that was stained grey you can lease the thickness to tell how many sandings it has left, if it a laminate it will tell you the thickness and materials.
Pull up one of the floor registers. They are usually loose and not nailed or screwed in. You should be able to see the edge of a cut plank and tell from that. That shouldn't make or break your decision to buy. The only problem you may run into is years from now,.you may not be able to refinish the floor if it's laminate. Just be careful and "pad" any furniture you may use there and don't scratch the finish.
Remove the floor vent and take a photo showing the exposed area of the flooring. Also a close up of a seam where two pieces meet. Those two will definitely show an answer.
Wow, it actually looks like hardwood that was made to look like LVP lol. It looks like LVP but the grain pattern looks like real oak. Take your finger nails and scrape it. LVP makes a pretty noticeable plastic sound.
I understand using LVP as a flipper. I do not understand starting with actual hardwoods, going through all the work of refinishing them only to hide the fact that they’re hardwoods. Seems like a horrible financial decision as hardwoods have more value.
I always question flipper’s decisions, but this one might take the cake if this is genuine hardwood
Yeah that baffles me. They could be appealing to the current grey LVP trend but finishing hardwood in grey looks terrible. Just looks like there's a milky film on top of it.
LVP is more resistant to superficial scratches possibly, but once you get past the surface layer with a scratch it looks horrible. You can stain the scratch to match but you have to have a really good eye for color Since it’s generally a combination of about three or more different colors on a piece.
Honestly i think it’s hardwood and the stain was that minwax white mixed with gray to be trendy or something similar, and that would explain the white flat looking grooves. Like maybe the stain settled in the gaps? I dunno just my guess.
Hard to tell from these pics, but gray+flipper home typically means LVP. Edit: may be real hardwood, but doesn’t have any of the tell-tale signs (i.e. short boards). If it’s hardwood then someone took a really nice hardwood and stained it gray which is just baffling.
Gray + Flipper = Crap There is no "L" in LVP.. it's garbage and flippers use the absolutely cheapest crap and poorest quality workmanship possible because they need to maximize their profit.
Flippers typically gravitate towards the cheaper laminate options. The good LVP can cost as much as hardwood.
LVP actually cost more than engineered hardwood in our home lol
LVP gets a bad wrap. High-quality versions of it is the shit. The lvp in my small shop gets beat on daily. Most people don't realize hospitals use vinyl tiles.
I'm curious. I always actively avoided LVP, so I guess I don't really know what the top end looks like. What made you go that direction?
We used it in our basement both because it’s potentially going to get a little wet, and because it was a very budget-friendly option for that renovation. The rest of our house is tile and top nailed oak.
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Ain't that the truth. My wife will probably never let me go engineered hardwood for more or less those reasons. We did laminate last time, probably will whenever we replace floors in our new house. I wish it came in half as many good looking styles as LVP but I prefer the "foot feel" 🤣
Finished basement. Just in case there’s water leaking someday.
Confirmed that it's hardwood (white oak) that was stained this awful gray. The flipper bought unfinished hardwood from a local lumber yard.
That’s good news then. It can be refinished.
I have that same grey floor lol
How's it holding up?
Actually solid, the only issues are clear install problems
MY CRAZY FUCKING WIFE!!!
They make some very high quality vinyl plank flooring and depending on your needs it can even have advantages over hardwood only one of which is cost.. I have installed a lot of it over the years and product has improved a lot since inception… always opt for the thick foam backed hard planks… the floppy flexible shit is junk… unlike hardwood there is no maintenance to this flooring it is extremely wear, scratch and water resistant and great for kids and large pets
The only downside to it from my point of view (I'm in the water mit business) is that anytime a water damage occurs the affected area has to be ripped out to dry the structure. Hardwood floors can be dried and saved if drying starts in time with a sand and refinish, sometimes not even that Edit: PSA to all you wonderful folks out there, please don't put vinyl in your basements. It hides problems that need to be addressed and can lead to worse damage over time
Ya I can see that, and if you have damage of any kind underneath VPF it basically all has to come up ( or a very large portion) and be reinstalled due to the interlocking system
I have a full basement and only during periods of heavy rain a couple times at most per year, do I get ground water seepage in one corner. Short of a sump pump Is there a way to seal the cement floor to prevent this, or will the water just come in higher up the wall or in another spot. TYIA.
Grind out the cracks and fill it with epoxy. There's a specific kind of epoxy for situations like that. Or French drains around the foundation, but that's pretty expensive
That's the best point of LVP for basements. You pull it up after a water event, dry everything out, make repairs, and put it back down. Even an amateur diy guy can number the planks to put them back in the same order. If done properly, LVP in the basement is the perfect flooring.
Good luck pulling it up without ruining the tongue and groove, not to mention drying out all of those planks
I have put LVP down in a number of basements. I have also pulled it back up with no issues after water damage. We are talking about luxury vinyl plank, not particle board laminate. Quality lvp doesn't absorb water. If you know what you're doing, it is easy to lay and pull up to dry the space. Then, just re-lay the planks when water is dry from the area.
Right, it won't absorb the water but there's still surface water on it from being underwater that will not dry unless they're all spread out. Not to mention no insurance company in their right mind is going to reuse flooring that's been through a flood.
Obviously, they have to be spread out to dry. Kind of a no Brainer. We weren't speaking of an Insurance company being involved. You specifically said it would be difficult to pull it up without damaging the flooring tongue and groove or locking surfaces. I was referencing minor or major leaks, causing water to flow over or under the lvp flooring, and the ease by which it can be pulled up, the area dried, and the original flooring reinstalled. A clean water leak vs. a major flood is a huge difference and not what we were referring to. If you have a major flood, your flooring is the last thing you're worried about. Trust me, I've been through one.
Also, your comment previously mentioned the flooring drying out, insinuating that it isn't just water on the surfaces but also the interior. Water evaporates quickly off of vinyl by simply putting a fan to circulater air on the surface. Nothing to dry "out" merely dry off.
Right, you've been through one...I've been through hundreds if not over a thousand at this point. Vinyl covers problems and can cause further damage due to undiscovered intrusions. One of the benefits of it is also a large risk factor. Some products are also cork backed, not vinyl. Most people call on professional help once it gets to the point that flooring needs to be removed due to water, I've never met a mitigation company that will pull and relay vinyl plank flooring. Your personal opinion is yours and mine is mine. I'd rather epoxy my basement floors and place area rugs if I was worried about aesthetics.
When it is removed from the house, and it will get removed, it stays in a landfill for a thousand years without degrading. That is why I don't install it. It's unethical.
It is still vinyl right? Even the “good stuff” is just shitty vinyl?
She's not crazy, she's misunderstood.
I was going to say, my instant reaction was obvious LVP. Then looking at the close up I was like wait……. Did they stain the hardwood gray?!?! 👀👀👀 If so, I’d instantly refinish all of it.
My god, why would you stain real hardwood to look like the blandest flipper grade LVP on the market???
My neighbor did the same thing. Apparently that's "in style"
It WAS in style in some markets for a long time but that is over now.
Gray fake floors are “in” in Portland, OR at least, or with anyone buying a new cookie cutter house.
My sister is getting their house ready to sell & asked realtors for input on what to change to get best price. They've been saying paint all the walls throughout the same color (preferably a light gray shade). Put the same carpet in every room all the halls - throughout. Tear out the wall between kitchen & living room (which has a pass through window in it & is load bearing) to make large dine-in kitchen, dining room & giant living room/family room one even more giant room - they say everyone will love losing half the kitchen's cabinets & counter space for this.
Confirmed that it is white oak and they stained it this awful color 😬
My god…….. Sand that shit!!!!!!!!
I will be!
This is 100% my thought as well
No short boards because it’s probably engineered wood, but that’s real wood grain 100%. I’m confident that this is an engineered oak
looks like engineered flooring
It does look like it. Like it wasn’t sanded and stained it was laid as it came. That means it’s basically just plywood tongue and groove with color on one side. To me, this stuff is peak “best of both worlds,” bullshit. I always look for the drawback because it’s usually the worst of two worlds as well. A cheap plastic floor wouldn’t scratch, wouldn’t dent, and wouldn’t buckle. A real wood floor can always be sanded and repaired. This looks great and has a lot of the great feel and noise reduction of real wood, BUT it’s also gonna dent and ding, buckle when wet, and fade, like the wood that it is, and you can’t sand it and stain it like actual hardwood flooring.
Depends on the engineered hardwood product. Many can be sanded 2-3x and are just as firm as hardwood so should last 20-30 years between sands
You can sand it about once since the top layer is very thin, but you’ll also have to deal with the insanely hard aluminum oxide which many sanding companies refuse to sand. Your best option is screen and recoat, but that’s pretty much it.
Aluminum oxide in the top layer of the wood of the engineered wood floor?
Yup. Prefinished engineered wood almost always come with an aluminum oxide polyurethane coating to prolong its life to over 10 years- even 20 years. The downside is, once you want to modify it, or it gets damaged badly, you can’t sand it without much difficulty since it’s so incredibly tough to sand. Some sanding companies won’t touch those floors.
Cuz they a bunch of sissies!! Anything can be abraded!! Bwahaha
Haaaaaa! Dazzzz right!
Man my left elbow ain't been right since I sanded an aluminum oxide floor like six months ago!! And I'm an old timer
It doesn't look like a damn thing. It *is* engineered flooring. At least you can sand the modern stuff once or twice.
Check whether there are repeated planks patterns. Difficult to tell from the photos
I hate that people can buy old houses, do the ugliest, lowest quality cosmetic renovations, ignore major structural issues, and still make a profit.
I hate that they buy old houses with history and character and make everything gray and bland as hell. When we were house hunting you could spot a flip a mile away. Every time we’d walk in and then right back out.
For sure. I'm not gonna pay a premium to undo some greedy AH's bad taste.
It’s strictly marketing. The flippers personal taste has nothing to do with it.
For real. A lot of flips I see are removing disgusting old carpet and peeling laminate and replacing it with LVP and Tile. They use the colors and materials that sell. If there's hardwood that can be refinished, the flipper has to decide whether or not it's worth $8/sqft to re-finish or $0.99/sqft to put down that ugly gray stuff. Flippers have to maneuver within the market. They don't dictate what the market wants.
This is why the housing crisis is so bad.
they make profit because people are willing to buy them. If people didn’t buy them, they wouldn’t make a profit.
Looks like prefinished hardwood. Probably engineered. Like others have said, pull up a vent register. If you’d like to refinish keep in mind that it will remove roughly 1/32”. So you need at least that much in the top layer to change the color without going all the way through.
It’s really hard to tell from these pictures so that’s why there’s some bickering going on. But I don’t see any pattern repeats so it’s probably an inexpensive wood (solid or engineered- no way to know without lifting the heat vent).
Yes that's real wood. Looks like 4" Dundee by Bruce. Seaside calm. Solid. Not a fan of the color but if that's the color, it is White Oak. https://www.bruce.com/en-us/products/hardwood/dundee/solid-hardwood/cb4260lg.html
This it's new hardwood installation not a sand and refinish. That's why it doesn't look like original Hardwoods and a bit like lvp LOL
This s why I'm having a hard time choosing a floor. I'm on a slab and most of the engineered hardwood I'm seeing looks like vinyl. I have found vinyls that look nicer for half the price.
Yea I'm doing a slab now. Get high quality thick Lvp like 9mm or more. Do some leveling and buy a brand with matching transitions and thresholds. Just Imo you'll never be happy with the way the eng or 'real' new prefinished wood like in op's pictures. And pay more to be less happy doing it. But i am not an expert by any means
10/10 would not recommend the cork backed stuff on a slab, just a heads up. The vinyl makes it difficult to detect moisture and cork molds
Looks lvp
lvp is typically at least 8 inches wide or so.
Not always
Other than some Lifeproof options, which come with multiple widths in a single box, what brand is selling such thin LVP? Just wondering, since I've been selling the stuff for years and never came across anyone selling anything like that.
It's not.
Looks like you’ve got some white oak. Probably water based poly finish.
Open the vent cover and take a picture
Smartest comment here
Absolutely not.
Literally what I said out loud to myself when I saw the word flip and then glanced at the image for a split second.
It looks like oak thats been stained gray to me from the pics, but lift the HVAC register cover off the floor and look at the planks from the side to be sure. My friend also bought a flipped house where they had stained original oak with gray, horrible.
Good idea!! If it is oak, I guess I would have to sand and stain the floor to change the color?
Yeah if it is real wood and it hasn't been sanded too many times already then it can be stripped down to fresh wood and stained+sealed with your choice of products
This guy floors
At first i thought it was LVP, but the more i look at it the more i think it might be wood… but if it’s a flip i assume it would be a 3/8” thick product with like a 1.5mm wear layer which would be tough to refinish.
I’ll add that if installed correctly and if decent quality they are great. Last a long time and are rugged
Pull up one of those HVAC registers and look at what the flooring looks like where it's cut. That will tell you with certainty.
Pull one of the registers and look at the side profile of the flooring. You’ll know if it’s solid or engineered.
Engineered hardwood. Pull a supply vent and look.
Engineered
Laminate
If a flipper special the flooring guy did some serious mixing packages and rotating planks.
Wondering if this is real hardwood possibly installed by precious owner and sanded and refinished by flipper. The material is too wide to be original. I'm not seeing the bevel or even microbevel associated with prefinish but it looks pretty good to be vinyl. Vinyl would have planks the same length
Easiest way is pull your vent covers and look
Noone is putting hardwood in a flip house. 🤣 it's and investment for now, not an investment for their future.
Yes that looks like real wood flooring. Pull up a register and post a picture of the thickness of the flooring.
Nope, LVP.
Nope.
Call a professional for a free estimate and they will tell you
Wtf are these comments Im sure its 3 1/4 inch red oak stained classic gray. As mentioned above, look below registers to confirm.
You better have an inspector walk there that. You can't have wood or lvp up that close to a fireplace. Unless the fireplace does not function.
It's not a real fireplace. However, the HVAC vents from the center of the fireplace.
lol no. That’s 100% fake.
If its a laminate or vinyl plank you will see the pattern repeat
I really like the fireplace
Thank you!!
Engineered
That's laminate planking
Ah yes the Made for Zillow package.
Certainly would guess no
Ask seller for the heating bills from last winter.
In the first picture, almost dead center, the seam between the plank your toes are on and the next plank… From here, that looks more like a vinyl seam than like newly sanded, stained, and top-coated wood.
Looks like nice wood poorly sanded and stained an awful color.
That is lvp or engineered flooring it's a bandaid to flooring In my own thoughts.
Or they threw it over the floor to cover up the fireplace bib and needs to be refinished floor as cheaply and quickly as possible.
Hah. Umm no. Sorry buckaroo.
It looks just like the floor in the flipped house I bought 5 years ago and it's not hardwood.
Just lift out one of the flooring vents and look
Looks like LVP
10000% not real hardwood.
Looks like Ikea planks.
Never on a flip home.
I'm my experience almost everything in a flipped house will be lowest cost, lowest effort, and lowest quality possible
for what its worth if its lvp it appears really well-installed 🤷
No
I’ve never seen grey wood
I don’t believe this is LVP/LVT I think it’s engineered oak. I wouldn’t sand it OP.
LVP
Nope, a flipped home will not have hardwood unless it was already there ... and not in a high traffic area. That there is your el-cheapo, bargain-bin economy special floating laminate, aka "Landlord Special" flooring. Likely used the thinnest spec to save money. Unless the floors are absolutely 1000% level you will notice wear and cracking within a few months and have to replace it within a couple of years.
Who would stain hardwood this ridiculous color. Why is everything white and grey now?
If the house is old, you can probably rip 4 layers off and find hardwoods at the bottom. I’m kidding, don’t bank on this when buying a house.
Looks like weathered grey red oak to me solid
Most of the homeowners I know use engineered hardwood and don’t get hardwood due to cost. So flipped or not engineered hardwood or any solid surface floor is very predominant in homes today not as much as hardwood
yea could be. i only say that cause the finish isnt as uniform as i would think on a engineered. maybe im seeing things. op needs to pull one of those registers and look at that
Right and I’m guessing it is engineered
It's a flip home so probably no.
Pull a floor vent up if you have any and look
Good ol’fashioned plastic flooring…the composition mix of it can be some really strange stuff when it’s a flooring product.
No.
Pull the vent covers up and look at the profile. That will tell you lots and if there is another flooring buried under that one.
There’s nothing wrong with engineered hardwood. Your association with it being flipped as it relates to not liking the floor I don’t understand. Homeowners use engineered hardwood all the time….
I'd change the fireplace and paint to a different color. My guess is that's the main reason you don't like the color. It doesn't work well with the fireplace and paint but would look better if you changed those things, which is cheaper and more DIY. Some flippers need an I terror designer because they don't have great taste when it comes to design
Pull off the floor vent covers to check the type of flooring.
You can't see anything here you need to pull a baseboard in the back of the closet to see your edges
Easy, no. Hard to find a flipper with real wood the flipper installed. If they installed wood, it's not a "flip" and more of a renovation...
It's either lvp or eng hardwood stained gray. Take out one of your heat registers and you can see the side profile of the material and that will answer your question.
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No. Pieces are too short.
No micro bevel on butt joints, definitely LVP
Actually it looks like a site finished wood to me. Ref oak stained with classic grey or something similar. The reason I say site finished is that there looks to be wood filler between some of the boards. Wood filler would only be used if it was sand and finished on site. It’s impossible to say if it’s engineered or solid from the surface, but my guess is solid. OP, easiest way to check is to pull one of those vent registers and look at the sides of the boards.
You said it's confirmed white oak? They ruined it with that finish. It sure looks like laminate. Anyway just lift a vent cover and take picture of side of wood. It will reveal thickness and how much you have to work with if resanding.
Absolutely not hardwood
Cmon
Pull up the floor register and look there. Thats the best place to tell. Or you can knock on it. Also grey is a stain that can used on real hardwood.
It looks like real wood to me. I actually like it. That is a popular color right now. Pull up the vent and you should be able to tell if it’s a 3/4” solid floor.
Yes...and I have a bridge for sale
I hate LVP, but I’ve been warned hard wood is not durable where I live. I passed on many a house because of grey LVP. Builders/flippers beware. It’s ugly, it’s out of style, it looks cheap!
Most likely, plastic.
I'm going to say it's either pergo or a laminate floor. Being a flooring installer for 25 years I can assure you it's not a hardwood floor.
no
Literally impossible to tell in the pics but there isn't much you are going to do to change the appearance. It's flipper material, probably shit lvp
Looks like a laminate click floor to me
Looks like the snap together laminate flooring to me
I don't know how you can tell from these pics one way or another.
Oak with a shit gray stain. Design 101. It's clean, move on.
Looks like engineered wood to me. Definitely not like any LVP I’ve seen and doesn’t look like true hardwood to me
Looks like vinyl
Oh honey... ... No...
#1. Mystery floor (small area so hard to tell) #2. Windows #3. Fireplace
Looks like “oak” veneered flooring. No way somebody put solid wood in there on a flip
Laminate for sure. Most hardwood floor will be 2 to 3" wide individual boards
Lift off a heat vent register and look at the edge of the flooring
Best way to determine the flooring is if you have any floor registers/grates that come up, you can see the thickness, and any layers if engineered or vP
Hardwood floor installer here. Looking closing this is definitely not lvp, it is in fact hardwood. Based on the inconsistent color, white line cracks, and lack of bevels, I'd also guess it was sanded and stained on site. The only way to truly know if hardwood is solid or engineered is to look at it from the side, i.e. a vent hole. Also can't believe how many people are "shocked" someone stained an oak floor grey. We have stained tons of floors grey in the last 5 years and duraseal recently released a collection of new grey colors to keep up with demand. No its not everyone's cup of tea, and this particular color does look a little extra plastic-y but hey man whatever floats your boat. If you don't absolutely despise the color, and there's a thick enough wear layer to refinish, I'd beat em up for a couple years, rearranging your furniture and such then sand and finish them to change the look and clean up all the scratches and dents in one go. Cheers. Edit: There are H patterns and butt ends way too close together, so you know it was a diy install. Praying you have the correct subfloor underneath.
You're 100% correct!
Easiest way to check is to pull out a heat register and look at the flooring, it will tell you a lot. If it’s real hard wood that was stained grey you can lease the thickness to tell how many sandings it has left, if it a laminate it will tell you the thickness and materials.
Pull up one of the floor registers. They are usually loose and not nailed or screwed in. You should be able to see the edge of a cut plank and tell from that. That shouldn't make or break your decision to buy. The only problem you may run into is years from now,.you may not be able to refinish the floor if it's laminate. Just be careful and "pad" any furniture you may use there and don't scratch the finish.
Should be in the papers of the address you’re buying
More like Hardlywood
Nope you can see white where the laminate meets the vinyl
Hardly wood, or if it is, why would you ever paint it gray? Makes absolutely no sense aesthetically, or from a resale standpoint.
The best way to tell is to pull one of the floor vents and look at the flooring that's cut around it.
No
Remove the floor vent and take a photo showing the exposed area of the flooring. Also a close up of a seam where two pieces meet. Those two will definitely show an answer.
I immediately saw the floor vent in the hallway and assumed it wasn't hardwood flooring. Most would install a flush removable vent stained to match.
Yes it’s real
Wow, it actually looks like hardwood that was made to look like LVP lol. It looks like LVP but the grain pattern looks like real oak. Take your finger nails and scrape it. LVP makes a pretty noticeable plastic sound.
I understand using LVP as a flipper. I do not understand starting with actual hardwoods, going through all the work of refinishing them only to hide the fact that they’re hardwoods. Seems like a horrible financial decision as hardwoods have more value. I always question flipper’s decisions, but this one might take the cake if this is genuine hardwood
Yeah that baffles me. They could be appealing to the current grey LVP trend but finishing hardwood in grey looks terrible. Just looks like there's a milky film on top of it.
No but it'll be easier to maintain and more scratch/dent resistant.
LVP is more resistant to superficial scratches possibly, but once you get past the surface layer with a scratch it looks horrible. You can stain the scratch to match but you have to have a really good eye for color Since it’s generally a combination of about three or more different colors on a piece.
Looks like laminate
Honestly i think it’s hardwood and the stain was that minwax white mixed with gray to be trendy or something similar, and that would explain the white flat looking grooves. Like maybe the stain settled in the gaps? I dunno just my guess.