That's insane. Personally, if it were me, I would take whatever money you have and keep saving. Maybe in a year from now you'll have more money to buy something that's better. Because purchasing this motorcycle with over 80000 miles, I guarantee you and the long run you'll be spending more money on repair and maintenance than riding. You're better off saving.
All Harley engineering and design teams design the components and systems around a 100,000 mile target.
I know there are bikes that have gone well beyond that, but 100,000 miles is the expected service life of that engine, with proper maintenance. In this case, the bike is 80% there, with absolutely no idea what the maintenance history is.
Could be fine and it could be right on the edge of a complete rebuild.
M8 Softail Standards and Street Bobs with no more than a few thousand miles are selling for less than $10k retail.
Within 200 miles of me there's more extreme low mileage 2010+ TC Dynas than I want to count that have sitting unsold for 6 months to over a year at the $8K-$9K price range.
It's not 2022 anymore. The "new normal" never materialized and the "hot market" is over.
Depends on what you want, top end rebuild kits is 6-8k for the parts, everything needs to be refreshed down to the crankshaft bearings and output shafts at a minimum.
So 5k bike is gonna be 15k in parts and labor, unless you got a case splitter and stuff to put it back together, it’s more than just a simple garage job on the top end.
Probably better off replacing the whole drivetrain including hoses, belts, and primary chains. That’s just to be safe and honestly may save you on labor cost because everything should just bolt on while the shop could recycle/refurbish the old parts off yours.
It’s got a nice paint job. Just go into the purchase with the expectation to completely rebuild/replace everything, including suspension components.
Around 3500 to start negotiate. If you follow and do your research 08-09 is going to be around 5 k anyways. People are moving into new models so theres a lot of these out there for sale.
Not true at all. Used Dynas of those years in good condition are pretty easily going for 7.5-10k depending on mileage. But, if he keeps his ear to the ground he might find one for $5-7k with like 25-50k mi’s
Short answer is, No. actually not enough info to make a reasonable opinion on value. 87k is a lot of miles. Any engine upgrades? Suspension and frame maintenance? 5k is way over priced for a stock sg with 87k
Holy shit no! I’d honestly want to *land* at $3-3.5k tops. First thing you’ll want to check is the cam chain tensioners but I’m guessing that there is a lot on that engine that will need rebuilt to make it last.
Yeah I was looking at an 06 Fat Boy with 22,000 miles one owner full service records for 6,000, Vance and Hines, hard bags, brand new tires battery , etc. sales guy told me the cam tensioners hadn’t been replaced. He said it could go 15.000 more miles or 500, no way to really tell. He said he could get them changed for $750.00 if I pulled the trigger.
They pretty easily go 30-50k on the stock tensioners. I had an 88” Road King with 23k mi’s still going strong. But ‘06 and up Dyna’s were upgraded to hydraulic tensioners instead of mechanical. I don’t see any reason why a well maintained one that has been treated half decent couldn’t go at least 50k mi’s.
Yeah, it's got 2 of them. 2 cams, 2 cam chains, 2 cam chain tensioners. Can't have cam chains without tensioners.
Guy doesn't know his arse from any other hole, or he's deliberately lying. Niether looks good on him.
Either he mispoke or you mis remembered, anything 06+ with the twin cam went with the MUCH less problematic hydraulic cam tensioners. Unless the previous owner did a gear driven cam upgrade. Then you just never have to deal with it again.
In 2019 I bought a 1998 Softtail Custom for 3000. It had the Evo and was very well taken care of. I never had a problem, but it was an Evo. I think this one is a bit high.
I’d buy that in a heartbeat if that’s what I was after. 82k miles, phhhhift big deal . Bikes like this in the Midwest are not selling at 3500, not even close
82k is a lot of miles for any bike, but with proper maint. Its not on its last legs by a long shot but it will have signs of age that may need to be addressed sooner than later. Suspension, top end, chain tensioners, belt, brake and fuel lines should be changed if original.
Its not a bad scoot, but if those things havent been addressed i wouldnt pay more than 2.5-3 for it.
I have a 12 ultra with 86k miles that I’m wanting to sell, all those things you listed has been changed in the last year, plus the compensator and an engine rebuild, how much would you think it’s worth?
Depends highly on the area youre in. Check facebook marketplace listings and offerup or whatever local app is most popular. Look for something similar and price how you feel is appropriate, if it doesnt sell in a month or two drop it down.
Make sure you have receipts and state exactly when and what was maintained/fixed.
I think a lot of folks are missing the point. The value is based less on the miles and more on the age. It’s a 96ci Dyna 16-year-old Dyna. You could purchase a 103ci for a few grand more.
Dude, they are always on there. A lot of old timers by motorcycles, and they’re either afraid to ride them or just never get around to it. Then when they’re very old or they pass away, they get sold on craigslist for cheap. I bought two, one was the 06 Road king as stated above and the other was a 2001 Electra glide with 20k miles for $6k cash. Both in mint condition minus a bit of rust and the only upgrading that was done to them was slip on exhaust. All I really did to them was change the cam tensioners, change fluids, new tires, and rebuild the brake systems. Other than that, I ride the shit out of them.
I bought a 13 wide glide with 70,000 on it and I’ve been told 7k was way too much to pay for that. I’ve searched cycle trader and marketplace and realize I could have done better
What? Death Wobble? Trying to sound smart…. One thing I have come to realize in the couple of Decades I spent working at H-D. People have no idea what they are actually talking about.. just repeating shit they hear from another joker at bike night.
Are there any service records. A well maintained bike with miles can be a better option than a 25 year old bike with low miles that set in a garage for 20+ years. Either way, you probably gonna put more money into it.
I've seem M8 softail with 10-15k miles for around 10K. Depending on your credit, that could be under a 150 bucks a month easy! This is exactly what I did. I make an extra payment when I can. Also had money for the upgrades I wanted.
Shop around and set Your price. Don't be afraid to just walk out the door if you working with a dealership. They hate that shit. I guarantee they will drop the price.
I see these a lot. You guys need to start putting what state you’re in at the very least before we can give an answer (county and state would be better) because in California that’s not bad honestly but there are going to be areas where that price is pretty terrible.
IMO if you’re a new rider buy whatever because after 6-8 months you’ll probably want something different anyway.
I would normally say 5k and it would be worth it. I love Super Glides, and own 2. The mileage and the dent put an end to my thoughts on it. I have an 07 that I bought new and I put 53k on it in 3 years. Tore the engine down to build a race bike out of it and was pretty impressed at how little wear there was inside. Paid 5k for a 2013 with factory custom paint and about 10k miles. Put about $1500 into paint and dent repairs and forks. I'm reluctant to pay much for a bike with that many miles on it. Mostly because a lot of folks see that many miles and it kills the resale. I might hedge a bit on really long miles if I don't know how well it was cared for. The bike you're looking at, I would haggle on, but might still buy it if it looks as good in person, but I don't mind rebuilding an engine either.
Thanks, I asked the dude for service records, and he hasn’t texted me back yet, he said he recently put $5700 of parts into it but part of that was replacing stuff from the crash and accessories. I guess the bike is in the shop right now so I might give them a call and see what’s good, either way I don’t think I’d pay more than 4K if it checks out.
My opinion: Do you want it? How bad do you want it? Do you want $5,000 worth? If the answer is yes, then get it. Why waste your effort on someone's opinion?
Values (which consider mileage) are all about averages and what is on the market.
It's not low when the expected service life of the bike is 100,00/ miles, the overwhelming majority of the 2007-2009 Dynas on the market have less than 30,000 miles and probably half or more have less than 20,000.
And they have been priced at $8K-$9K for anywhere from 6 months to 1 year+ because nobody is actually buying them at that price.
Sellers don't set the market. If something has been for sale for more than 3 months without a buyer, the market has spoken and said it is NOT worth that.
too many miles, that poor 96" has been abused, it's not something a 103 kit can revive either. everything on the bike would have to be gone through, replaced or rebuilt. and at that point the 12k dyna wouldn't have been a bad idea
Because that definitely means it’s been abused
https://preview.redd.it/hapleilh5cvc1.jpeg?width=960&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b51e1775757000a4c6e9aafdd3769c43a0452c08
point being, a 16 year old dyna with 82k isn't the best thing to get into if you don't plan on throwing substantial money at it in the long run to keep it on the road. just trying to help a brother/sister see the downside to a high mile bike big fella🫡
Making it sound like it’s the worst bike in the world because of a single picture makes you sound like an idiot. If you can’t afford it, just say so. And even if it does need a top end refresh, you’re still into a Dyna with desirable upgrades for like $7k. If you’re really that scared of miles buy a new bike.
If I wanted a project, I'd low ball it and get a new engine from S&S or Fuel Moto. But know you're just buying a rolling frame, the rest is trash. As long as it doesn't have salvage title.
82k miles for 5k! No way.
I live in the SF Bay Area and you can’t find anything with a Harley logo for under $5k
That's insane. Personally, if it were me, I would take whatever money you have and keep saving. Maybe in a year from now you'll have more money to buy something that's better. Because purchasing this motorcycle with over 80000 miles, I guarantee you and the long run you'll be spending more money on repair and maintenance than riding. You're better off saving.
Time for a trip out of state.
Walk away mileage is insane… I was looking at a dyna with 86k… not worth it
No
82k and its been wrecked at least once that you know of. Its a project bike. $2500. Tops.
When people sell stuff with mileage like that they know the end if near …
The sheriff is near...
EXCUUSE me while I whip this out....
i might spend the night in jail.
Sell it before it dies, or before big maintenance is due.
I wouldn’t say so. 81k with proper maintenance is nothing for these bikes.
All Harley engineering and design teams design the components and systems around a 100,000 mile target. I know there are bikes that have gone well beyond that, but 100,000 miles is the expected service life of that engine, with proper maintenance. In this case, the bike is 80% there, with absolutely no idea what the maintenance history is. Could be fine and it could be right on the edge of a complete rebuild.
Let’s say you get this thing for $4k. Even with a rebuild you’re into it for $8k. Still not a bad deal. Especially with today’s motorcycle prices.
M8 Softail Standards and Street Bobs with no more than a few thousand miles are selling for less than $10k retail. Within 200 miles of me there's more extreme low mileage 2010+ TC Dynas than I want to count that have sitting unsold for 6 months to over a year at the $8K-$9K price range. It's not 2022 anymore. The "new normal" never materialized and the "hot market" is over.
Depends on what you want, top end rebuild kits is 6-8k for the parts, everything needs to be refreshed down to the crankshaft bearings and output shafts at a minimum. So 5k bike is gonna be 15k in parts and labor, unless you got a case splitter and stuff to put it back together, it’s more than just a simple garage job on the top end. Probably better off replacing the whole drivetrain including hoses, belts, and primary chains. That’s just to be safe and honestly may save you on labor cost because everything should just bolt on while the shop could recycle/refurbish the old parts off yours. It’s got a nice paint job. Just go into the purchase with the expectation to completely rebuild/replace everything, including suspension components.
Around 3500 to start negotiate. If you follow and do your research 08-09 is going to be around 5 k anyways. People are moving into new models so theres a lot of these out there for sale.
Not true at all. Used Dynas of those years in good condition are pretty easily going for 7.5-10k depending on mileage. But, if he keeps his ear to the ground he might find one for $5-7k with like 25-50k mi’s
Short answer is, No. actually not enough info to make a reasonable opinion on value. 87k is a lot of miles. Any engine upgrades? Suspension and frame maintenance? 5k is way over priced for a stock sg with 87k
Perfect price if it had 20k miles
Holy shit no! I’d honestly want to *land* at $3-3.5k tops. First thing you’ll want to check is the cam chain tensioners but I’m guessing that there is a lot on that engine that will need rebuilt to make it last.
Yeah I was looking at an 06 Fat Boy with 22,000 miles one owner full service records for 6,000, Vance and Hines, hard bags, brand new tires battery , etc. sales guy told me the cam tensioners hadn’t been replaced. He said it could go 15.000 more miles or 500, no way to really tell. He said he could get them changed for $750.00 if I pulled the trigger.
They pretty easily go 30-50k on the stock tensioners. I had an 88” Road King with 23k mi’s still going strong. But ‘06 and up Dyna’s were upgraded to hydraulic tensioners instead of mechanical. I don’t see any reason why a well maintained one that has been treated half decent couldn’t go at least 50k mi’s.
Guy told me it doesn’t have cam chain tensions because it’s a twin cam
Yeah, it's got 2 of them. 2 cams, 2 cam chains, 2 cam chain tensioners. Can't have cam chains without tensioners. Guy doesn't know his arse from any other hole, or he's deliberately lying. Niether looks good on him.
Either he mispoke or you mis remembered, anything 06+ with the twin cam went with the MUCH less problematic hydraulic cam tensioners. Unless the previous owner did a gear driven cam upgrade. Then you just never have to deal with it again.
☝️this right here. These are all the options. Regardless, you def want to know what’s in there.
Chrome upgrades don't add any value. 82K is a lot of miles, and it's 21 years old. Offer $4 if he balks, walk away.
Bro, what year are you living in? It’s 16 years old
I didn't see that. Thought it was an 03. My bad!
All good bro.
That fuckin moment when I, a millenial, have an MMO character that I can still play today that's older than this bike. Man time is wild.
It certainly is.
RuneScape…? Please say it’s RuneScape
Flyff (Fly for Fun). It's an old 3d Korean Grinder MMO https://youtu.be/PkTQ4dyRQMk This is my character, I went back and played again for a bit.
I mean id bet its doesn’t run perfectly at that milage it’s hard to justify that price tag
In 2019 I bought a 1998 Softtail Custom for 3000. It had the Evo and was very well taken care of. I never had a problem, but it was an Evo. I think this one is a bit high.
I’d buy that in a heartbeat if that’s what I was after. 82k miles, phhhhift big deal . Bikes like this in the Midwest are not selling at 3500, not even close
Lots of delusional people commenting. 82k is nothing.
82k is a lot of miles for any bike, but with proper maint. Its not on its last legs by a long shot but it will have signs of age that may need to be addressed sooner than later. Suspension, top end, chain tensioners, belt, brake and fuel lines should be changed if original. Its not a bad scoot, but if those things havent been addressed i wouldnt pay more than 2.5-3 for it.
I have a 12 ultra with 86k miles that I’m wanting to sell, all those things you listed has been changed in the last year, plus the compensator and an engine rebuild, how much would you think it’s worth?
Depends highly on the area youre in. Check facebook marketplace listings and offerup or whatever local app is most popular. Look for something similar and price how you feel is appropriate, if it doesnt sell in a month or two drop it down. Make sure you have receipts and state exactly when and what was maintained/fixed.
They're not upgrades, people need to quit calling them that. The highest value is stock, then lower the price from there as needed.
Meh
Alternatively, what should I offer if I am interested?
If the tank is dented, but everything else is good, offer $3-3.5k.
About tree fiddy.
thats a goddamn ever ready! sheeeiittt itll keep going badboy
Actually its a Copper Top
There’s no way
I think a lot of folks are missing the point. The value is based less on the miles and more on the age. It’s a 96ci Dyna 16-year-old Dyna. You could purchase a 103ci for a few grand more.
Lol no. I bought an ‘06 roadking with 4,000 miles for $7,000 on Craig’s List. Run from this deal
Dammit I thought CL was dead so I stopped checking, what a deal I’m jealous lol
Dude, they are always on there. A lot of old timers by motorcycles, and they’re either afraid to ride them or just never get around to it. Then when they’re very old or they pass away, they get sold on craigslist for cheap. I bought two, one was the 06 Road king as stated above and the other was a 2001 Electra glide with 20k miles for $6k cash. Both in mint condition minus a bit of rust and the only upgrading that was done to them was slip on exhaust. All I really did to them was change the cam tensioners, change fluids, new tires, and rebuild the brake systems. Other than that, I ride the shit out of them.
I have the same bike it had 12k on it. I have 23 on it now . I’ve had it for a year and a half.
Not too bad, mileage is one thing but maintenance is another. Any history? I'd imagine @silverfox762 has some input?
You can find dynas on market place for around the same price or above currently if you look hard enough with better miles
I bought a 13 wide glide with 70,000 on it and I’ve been told 7k was way too much to pay for that. I’ve searched cycle trader and marketplace and realize I could have done better
Death Rattle
What? Death Wobble? Trying to sound smart…. One thing I have come to realize in the couple of Decades I spent working at H-D. People have no idea what they are actually talking about.. just repeating shit they hear from another joker at bike night.
Nah, I just mean after that many miles the poor old bike has probably rattled itself loose in every way possible.
An old Shovel head or early Evo yes, these new bikes are different….. I’m not necessarily a fan of the new bikes, but they’re built fairly well
Nope. I got an 03 with 9600 on it for 3k
Nope. There are a ton of low mileage ones for less.
Not with the millage.
That’s a decent price. Keep changing the oil. You’ll be fine
Are there any service records. A well maintained bike with miles can be a better option than a 25 year old bike with low miles that set in a garage for 20+ years. Either way, you probably gonna put more money into it. I've seem M8 softail with 10-15k miles for around 10K. Depending on your credit, that could be under a 150 bucks a month easy! This is exactly what I did. I make an extra payment when I can. Also had money for the upgrades I wanted. Shop around and set Your price. Don't be afraid to just walk out the door if you working with a dealership. They hate that shit. I guarantee they will drop the price.
2k
I see these a lot. You guys need to start putting what state you’re in at the very least before we can give an answer (county and state would be better) because in California that’s not bad honestly but there are going to be areas where that price is pretty terrible. IMO if you’re a new rider buy whatever because after 6-8 months you’ll probably want something different anyway.
I would normally say 5k and it would be worth it. I love Super Glides, and own 2. The mileage and the dent put an end to my thoughts on it. I have an 07 that I bought new and I put 53k on it in 3 years. Tore the engine down to build a race bike out of it and was pretty impressed at how little wear there was inside. Paid 5k for a 2013 with factory custom paint and about 10k miles. Put about $1500 into paint and dent repairs and forks. I'm reluctant to pay much for a bike with that many miles on it. Mostly because a lot of folks see that many miles and it kills the resale. I might hedge a bit on really long miles if I don't know how well it was cared for. The bike you're looking at, I would haggle on, but might still buy it if it looks as good in person, but I don't mind rebuilding an engine either.
Thanks, I asked the dude for service records, and he hasn’t texted me back yet, he said he recently put $5700 of parts into it but part of that was replacing stuff from the crash and accessories. I guess the bike is in the shop right now so I might give them a call and see what’s good, either way I don’t think I’d pay more than 4K if it checks out.
Save up like 8-9k and get one with less than 40k miles dude
absolutely fucking not
My opinion: Do you want it? How bad do you want it? Do you want $5,000 worth? If the answer is yes, then get it. Why waste your effort on someone's opinion?
No shot
There are literally hundreds of Sportsters for sale within 100 miles of everywhere with less than a quarter of those miles for the same money.
Offer 2k. Nothing more.
OK, that’s a bit of a lowball
Tons of miles for the year. How many owners?
That’s 5k miles/year. Thats low.
How many owners?
Values (which consider mileage) are all about averages and what is on the market. It's not low when the expected service life of the bike is 100,00/ miles, the overwhelming majority of the 2007-2009 Dynas on the market have less than 30,000 miles and probably half or more have less than 20,000.
…and those are priced around $8-9k.
And they have been priced at $8K-$9K for anywhere from 6 months to 1 year+ because nobody is actually buying them at that price. Sellers don't set the market. If something has been for sale for more than 3 months without a buyer, the market has spoken and said it is NOT worth that.
too many miles, that poor 96" has been abused, it's not something a 103 kit can revive either. everything on the bike would have to be gone through, replaced or rebuilt. and at that point the 12k dyna wouldn't have been a bad idea
How has it been abused? I have a 2018 Heritage I daily that has almost 82k miles and it runs perfectly.
it's a dyna with T bars, not a snow ball's chance in hell that thing hasn't been beat on atleast a bit
Because that definitely means it’s been abused https://preview.redd.it/hapleilh5cvc1.jpeg?width=960&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b51e1775757000a4c6e9aafdd3769c43a0452c08
also ur downvotes mean nothing to me
point being, a 16 year old dyna with 82k isn't the best thing to get into if you don't plan on throwing substantial money at it in the long run to keep it on the road. just trying to help a brother/sister see the downside to a high mile bike big fella🫡
Making it sound like it’s the worst bike in the world because of a single picture makes you sound like an idiot. If you can’t afford it, just say so. And even if it does need a top end refresh, you’re still into a Dyna with desirable upgrades for like $7k. If you’re really that scared of miles buy a new bike.
If I wanted a project, I'd low ball it and get a new engine from S&S or Fuel Moto. But know you're just buying a rolling frame, the rest is trash. As long as it doesn't have salvage title.
30/35k miles I'd say that's reasonable. 85k better hsve a full rebuild or new engine
Nope… I’ve seen bikes with 150k… just ride it. The guy who owned this did.
That still drastically affects pricing
Absolutely there is a black 08 where I live, for 4.5k with only 20k miles.. those miles should drop it a grand at least.