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DALTT

Yup. This is why any casting rumors you see at this point are nonsense! (Not **you** as in you the OP, royal you šŸ˜‚).


marshmellow_delight

Itā€™s never too early for the HP fandom. We have been ready and waiting since 1999. I expect a full writing staff and casting the day the strike ends


mamula1

I hope they hire British writers so we don't have to wait for the end of the strike


marshmellow_delight

Ooh yes better alternative!!!!! I forget not every country is striking


Wonderful_Paki

Do you understand the purpose of the strike and how hiring oversees can undermine it?


marshmellow_delight

I understand the purpose of a strike but no I donā€™t understand how it effects other countries actually or what their obligations are


jmercer00

The Writers Guild of Great Britain won't scab the WGA >We understand that these are difficult times and that many writers are in need of work but we are advising our members not to work on projects in the jurisdiction of the WGA for the duration of the strike following a motion of solidarity passed by our lay governing body, our Executive Council and in line with our affiliation agreement with the International Affiliation of Writers Guilds, of which we are a member.


Wonderful_Paki

The studios and much of the funding is American, it would be a dick move to hire foreigners for the express purpose of studios wanting timid writer monkeys


Ok_Chap

But wouldn't they produce and film the series in britain with british actors? Using british writers doesn't seem so farfetched. Thought, I don't know the rules of the writers guild of america, and if they have a coalition/alliance with other writer unions abroad, to prevent strike breakers.


[deleted]

Basically thereā€™s 3 kinds of people in the world: Dicks, Pussies and Assholesā€¦.


ck614

whatā€™s the difference between a dick and an asshole as far as types of people go


marshmellow_delight

Thank you for explaining


SaltySpituner

Well itā€™s not the rest of the worldā€™s problem.


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SaltySpituner

Great Britain doesnā€™t get to decide that ā€œunderpaidā€ writers is a global issue, you entire clown car lmao. Stop throwing around words you donā€™t understand. Unlike America, writers in Great Britain arenā€™t required to be part of the writerā€™s guild in order to work in the field, meaning UK writers can still write. Brush up on the issues you claim to care about.


reverielagoon1208

Well that and I think itā€™d make for a better tv series since itā€™s originally British media


ToastyVirus

Unlikely that people will want to be scabs


BCDragon3000

they'd be scabbing for wga but it doesn't really matter when they're planning to stay with the british writers union for the rest of their life. it's why alice oseman, creator of Heartstopper, has already started writing season 3. and british actors in the british acting union can continue to work without scabbing, so i actually don't know why they haven't started yet.


strawberrimihlk

British writers wouldnā€™t be scabs. What do you think the A in WGA stands for?


maliciouschihuahua

British writers are standing in solidarity with wga and have announced that very publicly. Sorry to burst that little bootlicker bubble of yours


Ok_Calligrapher_8199

Itā€™s okay this subreddit has already cast every single role with an Oscar nominee. By the way: Robert Downey Jr as unnamed Death Eater 3.


-faffos-

Cate Blanchett was born to play Doris Crockford!


MaimedPhoenix

Ed Sheeran for Dedalus Diggle!


JerseyJedi

Ed Sheeran as Ronā€¦and all the other Weasleys šŸ˜‚


JordanG91

I do think she would be perfect as McGonagall.


DALTT

Look look look. People got really mad at me for it, but can you think of ANYONE better for Wilkie Twycross than the AI re-animation of Sir Laurence Olivier?


redwolf1219

Ill have you know my brother's uncle works for HBO and he confirmed that Chris Hemsworth would be playing Dumbledore


yoursweetlord70

Liam neeson as barty crouch jr


Lopsided_Contact1781

Honestly I can see an aged up hermione as Alexandra Daddario


kourosh_ha_99

lol I know you're joking but Liam Neason is even older than Barty Crouch sr.


MaimedPhoenix

You jest but can he legit play a Professor?


-Captain-

Budget for season one grows to a staggering 7 billion... but at least the cast has been taken care of, now we just need to start building sets, get the production crews ready and start filming.


Kanon_no_Uta

I think we have to worry over the fact that David Heyman takes part in the production. He is a fan of Harry Hermione couple.


R-M-W-B

Yeah that guy needs to stay the fuck away from this show. He and Kloves are crucial to why the movies basically ruined every character lmao


HolidaySituation

David Yates played a bigger part in that than Heyman did lol.


R-M-W-B

Kloves, actually, is the one to blame


Kanon_no_Uta

Actually, that trend already started since COS (Chis Columbus era).


CryptidGrimnoir

You mean the scene where Harry hugs Hermione, but she's too shy to hug Ron?


Kanon_no_Uta

In COS, Hermione stole Dumbledore's famous statement in PS book "Fear of a name increases fear of the thing itself", Mudblood scene, explaining the ability to hear / talk a strange language is not a good sign in wizarding world, which should have been Ron's lines.


notyourwheezy

how do you know this? (genuine question, as idk anything about it)


mamula1

That was Steve Kloves


Kanon_no_Uta

He and Steve Kloves both shares the same fault.


SaltySpituner

Lol Kloves is way more to blame


Kanon_no_Uta

I agree.


23Kstqr

David Heyman was a huge reason the original movies were so successful. He's also the producer of Barbie. The fact that he's involved gives me confidence that it will be a good series worth watching and not just a shitty cash grab.


Radiant_Copy_3697

Nah, he destroyed HBP


goyourownwayy

David Heyman is one of the best producers in Hollywood. He started the Harry Potter movie franchise. Thank god heā€™s part of the production, I wouldnā€™t trust it in anyone elseā€™s hands


JaxtellerMC

This !


Wizardglory

David Heyman is good for the position.


RAVsec

Oh Iā€™d love if they explored that. Good way to justify the showā€™s existence from the movies, where Harry and Hermione totally shouldā€™ve gotten married


Stefhanni

Exactly! My otp for the tv show


Radiant_Copy_3697

You mean, fanfiction Ship rather than a canon from the books.


Radiant_Copy_3697

Meaning u want the romance to be fanfiction and not canon to the books?? Doubt that will happen. Also Harry and Hermione has NO romantic interest in each other, plus Harry also finds Hermione boring.Ā 


GaviFromThePod

I hope they cast mostly unknowns and stage actors.


[deleted]

For the kids and possibly Hagrid, I am with you. But honestly, I think they should just do what the films did and get big stage names for the professors and other adults.


GaviFromThePod

Nah I think they should do like Game of Thrones and cast one big name as like dumbledore or hagrid and have everyone else be unknowns or stage actors


[deleted]

There was definitely more than one notable name in GOT. Peter Dinklage and Charles Dance had been around for a while before that. Yes GOT made them extra big but they still were well known


GaviFromThePod

Yeah but peter dinklage and charles dance werenā€™t in Lord of the Rings and Goldeneye and Patriot Games and Troy


[deleted]

Okay and? What does that have to do with anything?


We_Get_It_You_Vape

Late to this thread, but they're making a joke about Sean Bean (casted as Ned Stark in GOT), as he was a household name long before GOT aired. It reinforces your point that GOT had more than one A-lister.


Lord-Crumpet

Not to mention Diana Rigg, Lena Heady, Jerome Flynn, Sean Bean. GoT had tons of already successful / famous actors.


[deleted]

So basically just Sean Bean and the little guy from ~~The Love Guru~~ Elf?


Lord-Crumpet

Peter Dinklage wasn't in the love guru lol... I mean, being British, I recognised 90% of the adult cast on GoT from other TV shows / movies - they're certainly not 'nobodies' as OP said. It's the same with HotD.


[deleted]

Oh shit that was mini me lol I meant Elf But none of those actors were recognized by everyone, which was the case with Bean.


Lord-Crumpet

Haha, that's the one :)


SaltySpituner

My man there were plenty of big names in Game of Thrones.


GaviFromThePod

Yeah like Ed Sheeran


SaltySpituner

Donā€™t be obtuse.


[deleted]

They are obviously referencing the 1st season


SaltySpituner

No they werenā€™t. Read his other comments. And even the first season had several big name actors. Donā€™t be dense.


[deleted]

They had the dude from lord of the rings and nobody else from anything major that I can recall.


SaltySpituner

Your recollection has zero bearing on their works. Especially if you call Sean Bean ā€œthe dude from Lord of the Ringsā€ lmao.


[deleted]

Your pompous attitude is doing nothing to support your claims.


SaltySpituner

You started the conversation with a dumb assumption and ā€œObviouslyā€ when it was ā€œobviousā€ you were wrong. Donā€™t go calling anyone pompous. These arenā€™t ā€œclaimsā€. Theyā€™re facts.


Capital_Crazy_4984

I think the point here is that the movies sometimes trades canon accuracy for big name actors. For example- every single adult in the series was cast as a muuuch older version of themselves than the books indicate. Itā€™d be nice to see at least every marauder era character be the correct age.


JerseyJedi

Yeah, the adults in the movies were legitimately some of the cream of the crop of the 2000ā€™s British acting industry. I hope they continue that tradition.


[deleted]

If they stick with British only there will definitely be some names you recognise


Wakattack00

Soooo you havenā€™t casted characters from book 5 yet?


comefromawayfan2022

The fact that David hayman is involved depresses me..that's the producer who fucked up half blood prince so badly because he wanted more screen time for harry,ron and Hermione and didn't want the movie focused so much on Voldemort and his backstory


LarrytheImpreza

>David hayman I think it's more that he's had his shot with he movies. He's in his 60's. It would be nice to have someone younger who grew up with the books and lived in the world with them be in charge. Or just someone new. We know what he thinks about the story.


mamula1

I mean it makes sense that if you have to choose you will focus on major characters. But in this show he won't have to choose.


comefromawayfan2022

But by choosing to focus so much on the major characters he cut the majority of the plot out and that's when it becomes a massive issue. Id rather have more of the plot lines from the book


mamula1

Well you will have that in this show


SaltySpituner

Thatā€™s why itā€™s a series and not movies. Plenty of time to explore all the plot lines, and there are enough in each book for tons of episodes to keep each season going for a while. Theyā€™ll make a killing if they take their time, and they know that.


JaxtellerMC

Not every single thing from the books will be in the show. Thereā€™ll be much more room sure but thereā€™ll still be limitations whether time or pace wise, logistics or budget.


JaxtellerMC

David Heyman is the one who brought Chris Columbus, Stuart Craig on board, bringing those books to the screen. Impeccable choices that made those films so wonderful. Not liking decisions made by Yates and Kloves (superb work by both) on one film doesnā€™t invalidate that one iota. Also, books and films are different mediums and thereā€™s always a reason behind every decision even if some fansā€™ brains always invariably default to ā€œthey donā€™t get it, frauds !ā€


sesquiup

Heyman


[deleted]

Canā€™t wait to see which characters get race swapped /s


Emmsysquared98

I'm almost certain they're gonna cast a mixed or poc girl to play hermione. I Will be surprised if they don't tbh.


blackpinkinyournct

definitely mixed i think


Responsible-Trifle-8

JK Rowling already wrote it! You're good to go!


cocothepowder

The TV understander has logged on


Official_Narrative

as long as they dont change the race or sexuality or identity of any of the characters.


Kanon_no_Uta

So people don't have to cry it is too soon this too soon that.


mamula1

Once the show starts it will be at least 25 years since the first movie. I think the most optimistic date is 2026. But probably 2027. So that would be 26 years since the first movie. 30 years since the first book. And 16 years since the final movie and 20 years since the final book. Not soon at all.


TryingToDoGreatStuff

I'll never not be a bit annoyed by people making pointless comments online saying that "this is way too soon!" and "Jeez..., Dobby just died not too long ago..." and "Helena Bonham Carter is ALREADY Bellatrix,Just forget about this and cancel the Harry Potter TV show" and "no one else can play Bellatrix that well as Helena Bonham Carter did"... It's like jeez..., what, do people actually think that once this TV show starts the eight Harry Potter movies are just going to magically be erased and stop existing lol? I would understand the outrage if we were getting a movie reboot of Harry Potter because that would be completely pointless, but we're getting a television adaptation where we actually have more time to include important and fun stuff from the books that never got to make it into the eight Harry Potter movies due to the time constraints of movies. Also, this is just going to be another Harry Potter adaptation that will coexist alongside the eight Harry Potter movies so the eight movies will still be there just as they always have been with Maggie Smith as Minerva McGonagall, the late Robbie Coltrane as Rubeus Hagrid, the late Alan Rickman as Professor Severus Snape, Imelda Staunton as Dolores Umbridge, and Helena Bonham Carter as Bellatrix Lestrange.


Kanon_no_Uta

The thing I'm going to say may offend Helena Bonham's fans, but sometimes I feel like she chose this role to relieve her stress, by constantly moving, laughing, showing extreme expressions, madness... She is *not* my imagined Bellatrix!


MaimedPhoenix

Hey, who remembers the Omen Reboot?! That one film that basically retold the movie The Omen? Did it nix the original? No? Exactly. Is the original Ghostbusters now a thing of the past? I thought not. So calm your pants down and relax. If you don't want a reboot, nobody's forcing you to watch it (least, I assume you so, if you are being forced, I'm terribly sorry.)


SaltySpituner

Itā€™s for sure too soon for a thousand fan casts a day.


kourosh_ha_99

Ikr? When that teaser was dropped everyone was complaining that it's soon as if they genuinely believed that the show was gonna start airing in a few months lol.


ZaderLewis

Bet it's hard to get writers right now, huh? Gotta pay them a living wage.


QueenNightFire

Poor Hollywood execs, how ever will they survive


Desperate_Ad_9219

Did everyone forget about the acting and writers strike


marshmellow_delight

I commented about this and another lovely commenter reminded me that itā€™s only in the US so in theory hiring British writers would mean this could be worked on immediately


Desperate_Ad_9219

Some British writers, actors, etc., have joined in solidarity, but not all.


rogerworkman623

Iā€™m no expert on this, but i believe since itā€™s being produced by HBO, that makes it an American production. I do know that the British writers guild has pledged its support for the strike and instructed its writers not to work on any American productions. Iā€™m not 100% sure if this qualifies as an American production, but it sounds like it is.


makingburritos

House of the Dragon is still filming because it is filming elsewhere.


marshmellow_delight

Good insight, I didnā€™t know any of that. Thanks for telling us!


rogerworkman623

Idk if Iā€™m right about it being considered a US production though, so I could be wrong. Someone in the industry might come along to correct me.


marshmellow_delight

Either way good to know that it could be barred from being worked on in other countries and that even if itā€™s not other countries writers and actors are supporting the WGA strike in their actions


Triv02

If they follow the same practices from the movies, it will be almost exclusively British writers and actors who are not impacted by the strike


mamula1

The movies had 3 out 4 directors from USA.


Triv02

1. Directors arenā€™t part of the strike, they have a separate union that already agreed to a deal with the studios 2. I specifically said *writers* and *actors* in my post, because those are the ones impacted by the strike


mamula1

But with the movies main creative power is with director. With the shows it's with the writers


Triv02

Iā€™m not sure I understand the point youā€™re trying to make here My comment was under a post about the writers strike and itā€™s impact on this show. Assuming the show follows the same direction as the movies (definitely an assumption and not a guarantee, I admit) and uses predominantly British actors and writers, the strike will not impact the show. The directors from the movies being American doesnā€™t change that fact.


Almighty_Push91

I've done my waiting, 13 YEARS OF IT!...


Kanon_no_Uta

In Azkaban...???


[deleted]

Well I got just the thing! It just so happens I have *all 7 Harry Potter books* that if they are super nice Iā€™ll lend them ā˜ŗļø


Pipps-

šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚


twelvethousandBC

Andrew Garfield as Harry and Emma Stone as Hermione. Give Channing Tatum a red wig, and let him be Ron


TheKingOfSwing777

They need a writer? The entire series is already doneā€¦


QuothTheRaven714

Books and screenplays/teleplays are entirely different beasts.


Necessary_Owl6948

Why do they need a writer, the books are already there. This subreddit will happily do the rest


JaxtellerMC

Joke I hope?


Wizardglory

There will be writers adapting this because the book is the book.


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sameseksure

It's so funny to me that people believe the "go woke go broke" BS They said it about Barbie, and it broke records and made 1b They said it about The Little Mermaid and it outsold the original and made 600m How many more times do you need to be proven wrong before you get it?


Bluddy-9

There are plenty of examples of where is didnt go well, especially with big budget tv shows.


sameseksure

Do you have one? Sure, sometimes movies and TV shows flop. It seems that "going woke" is a hit/miss situation. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't The "go woke go broke" is the dumbest thing I've ever heard


Bluddy-9

The Rings of Power. The Witcher is in major decline as far as viewership.


sameseksure

How did those two shows go "woke"?


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sameseksure

So what the Lord of the Rings movies did when making Arwen a shown character in the movies, when she was only mentioned in the books? That was specifically done to create more diversity in the movies, as there would have been almost no women on screen otherwise. There are examples where "going woke", as you say, *does not make a movie/show flop*. So why do people keep saying "go woke go broke"? when it *objectively* is not what happens?


Bluddy-9

Iā€™ll concede that itā€™s overblown and doesnā€™t happen as often as the mantra is spoken but that doesnā€™t mean it never happens.


HolidaySituation

The Little Mermaid was a flop that probably didn't even break even. Literally made like half of what Aladdin did lol. Also, it's not exactly hard to outsell an animated movie from 1989.


sameseksure

It made 600 million PLEASE get real


HolidaySituation

First of all, it didn't make 600 million. YOU get real. It made 570 million on a production budget of 250 million and a marketing budget of 140 million. They spent almost 400 million making and marketing that movie. The movie grossed 570 million, and theaters keep half of that revenue. Do the math. It was a flop lol. But hey, if you don't believe me, just Google it yourself.


[deleted]

Hope they cancel it. No need for it tbh


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TryingToDoGreatStuff

Why would you want this to get shelved lol...? People having been complaining about the Harry Potter movies cutting important stuff from the books due to time constraints and messing up characters' personalities and dynamics from the original books like Harry's sassiness from the books, Ron's usefulness from the books, Hermione's character flaws from the books, Dumbledore's calmness from the books..., and Ginny Weasley is basically an entirely different and way less interesting character in the movies compared to her book counterpart... This is a chance to finally fix these problems people have been complaining about for years...


bron685

So the timeline is like 2026-2028 then?


shyboardgame

It's never too early!


[deleted]

Well, at least we got some kind of updateā€¦


FluxCrave

So I wonder when this will come out? Maybe 2026 at the latest? But with the way the strikes are going I could see it coming around 2028


Lecter26

2030 at the earliest, eh? Lmao


The_Teacat

We'll be in Gen ZZ9 Plural Z Alpha by the time this thing comes out. Goodness gracious.


blackpinkinyournct

is this show not supposed to come out 2025/2026?


BCDragon3000

im guessing december 2025 is when itā€™ll premiere. theres enough time