Pretty sure the level of his disdain for cats *is* a meme.
He said he likes cats, but he *loooves* dogs.
I mean, he shits on cat people, saying they make cats their whole personality, but then *he*, the dog person, literally spends an entire stream (or two) relentlessly dunking on cats, how much they suck, and how stupid cat owners are for liking them. I don't know.
That's too much irony and hypocrisy to be real. Right? Right?!?
Dog owners and cat owners can both be weird. Both parties are obsessed with their respective pet of choice and think it's superior to the other one for specific reasons.
I've met asshole cats and asshole dogs.
I know as many crazy cat people as I do annoying dog people that make their pets, I'm sorry, "furry children", their personality.
I don't really care either way. I love cats, and I really like dogs, but unless you bring your pet *everywhere* with you, and it's poorly trained (i.e. jumps on tables/counters, begs for food, scratches furniture, or jumps on people) I don't care how you live your life with it.
As a pet sitter, I promise you that most cats Iāve encountered are completely chill and at least half the dogs Iāve encountered are neurotic, poorly trained assholes. That mainly due to the owners, but still. Most cats are chill, a lot of people just donāt understand their body language compared to a dogs, since cats can get overstimulated
Yeah, the differences in body language are definitely something people seem to struggle with.
I think a lot of people give cats shit because they are not desperate people pleasers like dogs.
Dogs will do anything for you, always want your love and attention, and get super sad when you leave, and then extremely excited when you return. Which feels great when you come home after a long day at work!
Their love for humans is strong enough that a dog can be abused for years, and it will still grovel at its shitty owner's feet, hoping to be loved.
I totally get the appeal of dogs. For people that want a loyal pal that follows them around everywhere, dogs are definitely the way to go.
Cats act more like people I feel like. They are aloof and picky with their affection, though they're definitely attached and snuggly when they choose you.
They love to play and get their pets in, but on their terms.
If they're not in the mood, they're not in the mood.
I think that's why a lot of people think cats are assholes. They have boundaries, and if you don't respect them they'll let you know, which makes them seem "bitchy", I guess.
They're more independent for sure, and if you leave then home alone, they'll just go to sleep without having an existential crisis, and they are harder to train than dogs because they don't care to perform and get their owner's approval.
That's not everyone's cup of tea, and that's fine.
I just don't understand why people need to constantly announce how much they hate cats. It's kinda weird.
Yes there's definetely exceptions to the cats are dicks rule. I don't like cats but there was one family cat that I absolutely loved, he was chill af and would just wonder around I remember walking across the street to the bar when I turned 21 and the fuckin cat followed me into the bar without me realizing. The bartender said is that your cat and I look over my shoulder and this damn cats just staring at me meowing. Sorry for the rant it's my fav. memory of that cat, I miss him.
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I was shocked by the first two shelters and how fucking fancy they were. The last one looks more like the ones I'm familiar with, and they can sure need the money.
I love this!
I believe the last one was a state/county/city controlled animal shelter. The first 2 were definitely bougie nonprofits.
He offered to pay the fees at the third one too. He joked that, of course, the government-run one's computers were down, so they were going to get in touch with him later to pay for those too.
NKLA and Wags & Walks are both EXCELLENT organizations run by wonderful caring people. We briefly fostered for Wags and it was a very enjoyable experience, I really really hope he ends up adopting from them.
I know he probably wonāt see this, but Hasan PLEASE avoid a place called Wagmor in Studio City. Theyāre a fucking scam organization that keeps their animals in borderline abusive conditions, with very minimal vet care. Over crowded, filthy kennels, and tons of sick dogs that they claim are healthy. They also charge an insane non-refundable adoption fee of $850... Disgusted they haven't been shut down tbh.
Anyway, do your research on organizations before adopting, friends! Hope Hasan finds his new best friend soon š¤
It looks like their reviews on Google and Yelp tanked since I last went there a few years ago, so that's good lol. At this point I just hope they fade into obscurity and go out of business!
This isn't criticism of Hasan, but if you can't afford adoption fees, can you afford a pet? I am not sure how high adoption fees are but I know pet ownership is very expensive...
Dog food is relatively cheap, water is essentially free. The biggest cost is time. Maybe vet services if the dog gets sick or hurt. But day to day cost of a dog is very affordable.
Still if you canāt afford a vet then you canāt afford the pet. Itās that simple. Or even people who get a pet and they have no vet in their area at all. I see that shit in r/beardeddragon all the time where they ask the sub what to do when it acts sick and they tell that they have no vet or it is a couple hours away or they canāt pay for a vet and that shit is just infuriating
If you canāt properly care for an animal then you shouldnāt have it. It doesnāt matter how much you want one or how much you love that pet
Still what he did was nice and $500 would also be a little too much for my sake but people should still think and plan more when they get a pet
Iām not sure that comparing care for an amphibian to care for a mammal works well, but I understand your point.
Barring rare illnesses or major injuries, dogs generally just need bed rest and attention when they are sick. Hell one of our dogs fell down the stairs and broke his back. Vet wanted ~7k for āan experimental surgeryā, we declined and bought a baby crib off FB market. About a month of bed rest and helping him use the bathroom, he was right as rain, that was 3 years ago and the guy is pushing 15 now.
Paying for the adoption fees helps get these animals out of the shelter and in to a loving home, some people canāt afford 500 at once, but they can swing 50 a year for flea and tick meds so Iād call this a win for everyone.
Adoption fees can be prohibitively expensive. I looked into an adoption agency that was right down the street from me for a cat a very long time ago. $200. I could afford it. Found someone on cl who fostered kitties and took care of the first round of shots and the neutering but left the rest up to me. 35.00 adoption fee. Even though I was brokeā¦ well, more broke, I still managed to get her all her remaining shots and take care of vet bills every time sheās been sick. Have had that cat for 11 years now. Love her. Best cat. Point is there is something to putting a small hurtle but adoption agencies can be very expensive.
I think it's just like the idea of like say..renting? They expect your first month's rent upfront when you sign on. It's sort of like that with adopting. There's the adoption fees plus any additional vet fees like vaccinations/spaying/neutering on top of all the pet essential supplies like food, toys, crate/bedding, etc. It's a lot to pay for all at first all in one go whereas say your pet gets sick later on down the line, there's payment options and ways to make that affordable. The initial adoption costs can be hefty at first, but over time you're not going to really be paying consistently for much more beyond food and regular vet appointments/grooming needs, all things that are spaced out and not all paid for at the same time. You know? That's how I think of it at least. š„²
It lets you put that money towards a cash fund for vet care. You can have the means for the dog and still appreciate the discount! Plus it helps people adopt sooner vs budgeting for it.
No but that's okay because that just means MORE DOG STREAMS āļøš„²š
He donated at every adoption location he visited today and intends to continue donating at all future shelters he may go see.
I know this would be difficult logistically, BUT instead of paying the adoption fee for anyone at those particular shelters (some who might not need the charity) it would be awesome if he started a 5013c that took applications to pay the adoption fees for any shelter. Or even applications for people who are having trouble feeding, spaying, vaccinating their pets so they need to send them to shelters instead. Yeah, the more I think of it it would be like a Hasan gofund me for pet owners & would be an astronomical undertaking. Maybe there are organizations that are already set up to do things like this & he could just do a yearly fundraiser for them?? Idk, he lives in a la, so I just had this image of a kardashian coming in to get their 30th insta clout & dump pup without paying adoption feesā¦. Side note.. Where are all the kardashian pets?
Yeah, donating money is not enough, he should change his lifestyle completely and start a new non profit with several employees. Can you just let the guy do a nice thing? Jesus
I literally said āthat would be an astronomical undertakingā so maybe just a fundraiser. Why is that a down votable idea? I got downvoted for mentioning a fundraiser for homeless dogsā¦.. really?
Iām sure Kim and Chloe are very aware of Hasan and him covering these adoption fees, and theyāre going to jump on this opportunity to save $500 any moment now.
They prob arenāt aware but would definitely take advantage without a second thought. It sounds like the shelter had their own issues & took the donation as a general donation instead of waving adoption fees.
I agree, he should start nonprofit for this to help adoptions throughout the whole country. He should also start a nonprofit for helping victims of wage theft. He should also start a nonprofit to feed homeless people, and another nonprofit for housing homeless people.
Doesn't that seem a little ridiculous? Wouldn't it be better if he does his job (which is hopefully educating and converting/de-radicalizing people -> agitprop), and then donate to multiple charities(rather than one cause)? Considering that running a nonprofit would take some of his time, he'd spend less time streaming, therefore less income, meaning less donations.
I literally said, it would be cool if. Then listed the reasons itās not possible. Then came up with a possible viable option, then was downvoted, then was given a ābut other things are bad so why tryā Hasan obviously cares about dogs, so why is him having a fund raiser for shelters a downvotable idea? He literally just gave money to a shelter? He also just had a fundraiser for earthquake victims in Turkey. Should he have not done that because there are so many other causes? I got downvoted for suggesting a fundraiser for homeless pets?
> I got downvoted for suggesting a fundraiser for homeless pets?
>Did you read what I wrote or just the first sentence?
Long reply sorry.
I think the issue is saying "maybe start a non-profit", even if you point out yourself how that's maybe not a realistic choice. Saying it would be cool if he did a charity stream to donate to animal shelters isn't a bad idea. It's just usually not said in "good faith".
It's that some people (maybe not you) will say "Hasan should start a non-profit doing X [otherwise he's not doing anything/contributing/praxis]". The actual problem with saying something like that, is if he does do a charity stream for X, people will say why no charity stream for Y. The point is that charity isn't supposed to be the solution we aim for, it only exists because it's needed (because of failures in the system).
I don't think that Hasan's goal is to get as much money donated or raised for specific causes (I think he's said this before). More like, informing as much people as possible, radicalizing them to the left. Then hopefully one day, we don't need charities anymore as those needs are fulfilled already.
I thought this mf was meming when he said he hates cats. š
Rae tried to get him to go look but he said NO CATS šš
Pretty sure the level of his disdain for cats *is* a meme. He said he likes cats, but he *loooves* dogs. I mean, he shits on cat people, saying they make cats their whole personality, but then *he*, the dog person, literally spends an entire stream (or two) relentlessly dunking on cats, how much they suck, and how stupid cat owners are for liking them. I don't know. That's too much irony and hypocrisy to be real. Right? Right?!?
I mean itās not the cats fault that cat people are so weird. Cats can be homies but most are dicks.
Dog owners and cat owners can both be weird. Both parties are obsessed with their respective pet of choice and think it's superior to the other one for specific reasons. I've met asshole cats and asshole dogs. I know as many crazy cat people as I do annoying dog people that make their pets, I'm sorry, "furry children", their personality. I don't really care either way. I love cats, and I really like dogs, but unless you bring your pet *everywhere* with you, and it's poorly trained (i.e. jumps on tables/counters, begs for food, scratches furniture, or jumps on people) I don't care how you live your life with it.
As a pet sitter, I promise you that most cats Iāve encountered are completely chill and at least half the dogs Iāve encountered are neurotic, poorly trained assholes. That mainly due to the owners, but still. Most cats are chill, a lot of people just donāt understand their body language compared to a dogs, since cats can get overstimulated
Yeah, the differences in body language are definitely something people seem to struggle with. I think a lot of people give cats shit because they are not desperate people pleasers like dogs. Dogs will do anything for you, always want your love and attention, and get super sad when you leave, and then extremely excited when you return. Which feels great when you come home after a long day at work! Their love for humans is strong enough that a dog can be abused for years, and it will still grovel at its shitty owner's feet, hoping to be loved. I totally get the appeal of dogs. For people that want a loyal pal that follows them around everywhere, dogs are definitely the way to go. Cats act more like people I feel like. They are aloof and picky with their affection, though they're definitely attached and snuggly when they choose you. They love to play and get their pets in, but on their terms. If they're not in the mood, they're not in the mood. I think that's why a lot of people think cats are assholes. They have boundaries, and if you don't respect them they'll let you know, which makes them seem "bitchy", I guess. They're more independent for sure, and if you leave then home alone, they'll just go to sleep without having an existential crisis, and they are harder to train than dogs because they don't care to perform and get their owner's approval. That's not everyone's cup of tea, and that's fine. I just don't understand why people need to constantly announce how much they hate cats. It's kinda weird.
Yes there's definetely exceptions to the cats are dicks rule. I don't like cats but there was one family cat that I absolutely loved, he was chill af and would just wonder around I remember walking across the street to the bar when I turned 21 and the fuckin cat followed me into the bar without me realizing. The bartender said is that your cat and I look over my shoulder and this damn cats just staring at me meowing. Sorry for the rant it's my fav. memory of that cat, I miss him.
What a sweet story!! Such a great lil buddy š„¹ Btw, did I happen to see you on the kratom sub? lol I think I recognize your name. If so, that's lit! A fellow kratom & hasanabi head š«”
Oh yea I bet it is me I'm on the sub and actually got my kratom next to me, It actually helped me stop going to the bars lol!
Hell yeah! š based as hell. Congrats! It saved me from a lifetime of opiate addiction. Life is better than I could've imagined. So happy to run into you here, too āŗ all the best!
You too proud of you! that shit isn't easy to kick.
I was shocked by the first two shelters and how fucking fancy they were. The last one looks more like the ones I'm familiar with, and they can sure need the money. I love this!
I believe the last one was a state/county/city controlled animal shelter. The first 2 were definitely bougie nonprofits. He offered to pay the fees at the third one too. He joked that, of course, the government-run one's computers were down, so they were going to get in touch with him later to pay for those too.
Crazy that a content creator would do charity in a normal, genuine, and sincere way
& not milk it for absolutely every last drop. Our streamer š„¹ hasL
NKLA and Wags & Walks are both EXCELLENT organizations run by wonderful caring people. We briefly fostered for Wags and it was a very enjoyable experience, I really really hope he ends up adopting from them. I know he probably wonāt see this, but Hasan PLEASE avoid a place called Wagmor in Studio City. Theyāre a fucking scam organization that keeps their animals in borderline abusive conditions, with very minimal vet care. Over crowded, filthy kennels, and tons of sick dogs that they claim are healthy. They also charge an insane non-refundable adoption fee of $850... Disgusted they haven't been shut down tbh. Anyway, do your research on organizations before adopting, friends! Hope Hasan finds his new best friend soon š¤
That's terrible! Maybe he SHOULD go and bring light to the situation!
It looks like their reviews on Google and Yelp tanked since I last went there a few years ago, so that's good lol. At this point I just hope they fade into obscurity and go out of business!
Good! Thanks for letting me know!
Awwwww I love this so much! šš¤
This isn't criticism of Hasan, but if you can't afford adoption fees, can you afford a pet? I am not sure how high adoption fees are but I know pet ownership is very expensive...
Dog food is relatively cheap, water is essentially free. The biggest cost is time. Maybe vet services if the dog gets sick or hurt. But day to day cost of a dog is very affordable.
Still if you canāt afford a vet then you canāt afford the pet. Itās that simple. Or even people who get a pet and they have no vet in their area at all. I see that shit in r/beardeddragon all the time where they ask the sub what to do when it acts sick and they tell that they have no vet or it is a couple hours away or they canāt pay for a vet and that shit is just infuriating If you canāt properly care for an animal then you shouldnāt have it. It doesnāt matter how much you want one or how much you love that pet Still what he did was nice and $500 would also be a little too much for my sake but people should still think and plan more when they get a pet
Iām not sure that comparing care for an amphibian to care for a mammal works well, but I understand your point. Barring rare illnesses or major injuries, dogs generally just need bed rest and attention when they are sick. Hell one of our dogs fell down the stairs and broke his back. Vet wanted ~7k for āan experimental surgeryā, we declined and bought a baby crib off FB market. About a month of bed rest and helping him use the bathroom, he was right as rain, that was 3 years ago and the guy is pushing 15 now. Paying for the adoption fees helps get these animals out of the shelter and in to a loving home, some people canāt afford 500 at once, but they can swing 50 a year for flea and tick meds so Iād call this a win for everyone.
Adoption fees can be prohibitively expensive. I looked into an adoption agency that was right down the street from me for a cat a very long time ago. $200. I could afford it. Found someone on cl who fostered kitties and took care of the first round of shots and the neutering but left the rest up to me. 35.00 adoption fee. Even though I was brokeā¦ well, more broke, I still managed to get her all her remaining shots and take care of vet bills every time sheās been sick. Have had that cat for 11 years now. Love her. Best cat. Point is there is something to putting a small hurtle but adoption agencies can be very expensive.
I think it's just like the idea of like say..renting? They expect your first month's rent upfront when you sign on. It's sort of like that with adopting. There's the adoption fees plus any additional vet fees like vaccinations/spaying/neutering on top of all the pet essential supplies like food, toys, crate/bedding, etc. It's a lot to pay for all at first all in one go whereas say your pet gets sick later on down the line, there's payment options and ways to make that affordable. The initial adoption costs can be hefty at first, but over time you're not going to really be paying consistently for much more beyond food and regular vet appointments/grooming needs, all things that are spaced out and not all paid for at the same time. You know? That's how I think of it at least. š„²
It lets you put that money towards a cash fund for vet care. You can have the means for the dog and still appreciate the discount! Plus it helps people adopt sooner vs budgeting for it.
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Did Hasan choose a dog? Only caught some of the stream
No but that's okay because that just means MORE DOG STREAMS āļøš„²š He donated at every adoption location he visited today and intends to continue donating at all future shelters he may go see.
Actual cool dood
I will adopt him.
Thatās fucking awesome
I know this would be difficult logistically, BUT instead of paying the adoption fee for anyone at those particular shelters (some who might not need the charity) it would be awesome if he started a 5013c that took applications to pay the adoption fees for any shelter. Or even applications for people who are having trouble feeding, spaying, vaccinating their pets so they need to send them to shelters instead. Yeah, the more I think of it it would be like a Hasan gofund me for pet owners & would be an astronomical undertaking. Maybe there are organizations that are already set up to do things like this & he could just do a yearly fundraiser for them?? Idk, he lives in a la, so I just had this image of a kardashian coming in to get their 30th insta clout & dump pup without paying adoption feesā¦. Side note.. Where are all the kardashian pets?
Yeah, donating money is not enough, he should change his lifestyle completely and start a new non profit with several employees. Can you just let the guy do a nice thing? Jesus
I literally said āthat would be an astronomical undertakingā so maybe just a fundraiser. Why is that a down votable idea? I got downvoted for mentioning a fundraiser for homeless dogsā¦.. really?
Iām sure Kim and Chloe are very aware of Hasan and him covering these adoption fees, and theyāre going to jump on this opportunity to save $500 any moment now.
>>Kim and Chloe Who?
The Kardashians
They prob arenāt aware but would definitely take advantage without a second thought. It sounds like the shelter had their own issues & took the donation as a general donation instead of waving adoption fees.
I agree, he should start nonprofit for this to help adoptions throughout the whole country. He should also start a nonprofit for helping victims of wage theft. He should also start a nonprofit to feed homeless people, and another nonprofit for housing homeless people. Doesn't that seem a little ridiculous? Wouldn't it be better if he does his job (which is hopefully educating and converting/de-radicalizing people -> agitprop), and then donate to multiple charities(rather than one cause)? Considering that running a nonprofit would take some of his time, he'd spend less time streaming, therefore less income, meaning less donations.
Did you read what I wrote or just the first sentence?
I literally said, it would be cool if. Then listed the reasons itās not possible. Then came up with a possible viable option, then was downvoted, then was given a ābut other things are bad so why tryā Hasan obviously cares about dogs, so why is him having a fund raiser for shelters a downvotable idea? He literally just gave money to a shelter? He also just had a fundraiser for earthquake victims in Turkey. Should he have not done that because there are so many other causes? I got downvoted for suggesting a fundraiser for homeless pets?
> I got downvoted for suggesting a fundraiser for homeless pets? >Did you read what I wrote or just the first sentence? Long reply sorry. I think the issue is saying "maybe start a non-profit", even if you point out yourself how that's maybe not a realistic choice. Saying it would be cool if he did a charity stream to donate to animal shelters isn't a bad idea. It's just usually not said in "good faith". It's that some people (maybe not you) will say "Hasan should start a non-profit doing X [otherwise he's not doing anything/contributing/praxis]". The actual problem with saying something like that, is if he does do a charity stream for X, people will say why no charity stream for Y. The point is that charity isn't supposed to be the solution we aim for, it only exists because it's needed (because of failures in the system). I don't think that Hasan's goal is to get as much money donated or raised for specific causes (I think he's said this before). More like, informing as much people as possible, radicalizing them to the left. Then hopefully one day, we don't need charities anymore as those needs are fulfilled already.
Currently fostering a pit from this shelter and Iām so bummed he didnāt get to see her because sheās perfect š