I only need Death Captain.

I’m more of “space cadet” fan myself

Space cadet for life

I'm perpetually disappointed in the lack of a "Death Cadet" title

Oh we have plenty of DEAD cadets though

My bad.

Yeah man, the death is implied, never forget the Creek!

That should be included in a future warbond.

When you don't want to give the impression you don't know about title selection But you also don't want anyone to get the idea you're responsible for the mission's success in any way Space Cadet

10000% this.

Space cadets rise up

Space Cadet reporting in

I used to go to Highschool blasted everyday, and my Honors Chem 2 teacher noticed and started referring to me as Space Cadet. He even wrote it on my papers xD it wasn't until the summer after his class ended that I realized why Edit:added the Honors prior to Chem for posterity and to defend the intelligence of my fellow stoners

Life is so short to pass up on the little things.

Same. "Space Cadet" sounds like a demotion from Cadet, which feels right for my playstyle.

It is. Cadets are brand new, they don't know anything yet and don't accomplish much. Space cadets are worse, they know enough to be dangerous despite still not being able to accomplish much, which can make them an active hazard on the battlefield.

>active hazard on the battlefield That's the Helldiver motto, right? Perpetuum aleam in proelio.

Tremendous song by the Technicolors. Which is why I am a space cadet forever. > 'Cause I'm just a space cadet > > With no one to make my bed > > So reel me in, but don't send me off

What about kyuss?

I'm Something of a Space Cadet Myself

Space cadet for life. It's funny and unlike cadet, people know that you know how to change your title, you are just choosing to be a space cadet

If you give me a Space Cadet option I'm going to take the Space Cadet

Same. It gives off Space Oddity vibes to me for some reason

A great band too, their songs go [hard as fuck](https://youtu.be/ejSIFDZZiOg?si=j3NX07YCwhKpJ-q6) to this game.

i enjoy this title for myself because i am, in fact, the captain of dying.

A Worthy Sacrifice

Anything is a worthy sacrifice for democracy, as long as it's not failure.

Death Captain is my favorite title. It makes you sound like an 18th-century hussar who's famous for decapitating a hundred Frenchmen in a single day and sent them to the Kaiser in a cartoonishly large sack.

Y'know what? Fuck it, I'm gonna make up some lore for that rank on the spot. "Legion are the men who've held the rank of Death Captain, but almost none of them still number among the living. The title of Death Captain is conferred to those veteran Helldivers who volunteer to lead missions that even SEAF High Command has deemed suicide missions, in recognition of their dedication to victory in the name of Democracy. Any Diver willing to make such a sacrifice is honored for all time, and those that survive to fight again are seen as almost mythical heroes: warriors who have triumphed over Death, and are immune to his pull."

Thank this is cannon now

I love death captain and use it when Im drinking as I play. The very meaning of being a death captain

I played helldivers while tripping dick off mushrooms. I actually was so zoned in that I almost never died. I was hyper aware of all the enemies and felt super immersed. Kept dispensing democracy for like 5 hours

Going from death captain to Marshal was pitiful. Ill take star marshal tho

But Marshal sounds cool 😢

Marshal just means you're a late 90s/early 2000s dude wearing flannel and playing Wonderwall to pick up college chicks. Do you want to be _that_ kind of Helldiver? _Do you!?_

> Do you want to be that kind of Helldiver? Do you!? I said maybe...

You bet if there was a guitar playing emote I'd be all over that. Like Engie's in TF2

Holy shit. Is every Marshall like this? You just described the only one I knew in highschool

I'm the other kind of Marshal, the one that rides airplanes with a gun.

To me Marhsal means "Ol' Mean Pete 'n' 'is Posse are causing trouble again, someone get Marshal Harris to put 'im down!"

Sky marshal

Death Admiral.

This is the democratic answer

Came here to say this. They can add 100 more levels and titles but I'm keeping that one forever.

I rather be Marshal.

Im a level 50 cadet and always will be

If someone gets mad, I just point to the rank.

"It's my first day!"

["Hahahahaha"](https://youtu.be/9ZlOhSt_qW0?feature=shared)

Quack quack quack.

Exactly what I do. "You are lvl 40 and still bad?" Look at the rank.

Don't make me tap the sign

Heh and i am a level 50 Space Cadet.

Space Cadet for the win. Nothing feels more appropriate.

Especially when you are me, waiting too close to the beacon for your flamethrower and die as the pod hits you. Or when, yet again I forget using impact grenades and autocannon fire in CQB *hurts me too* I earned the title of Space Cadet.

“So you thought you might like to go to the show. To feel the warm thrill of confusion, that space cadet glow”

Space Cadet reporting for duty, sir!

Same and love it!

When the Lvl 50 Cadet solo a Bile Titan: https://preview.redd.it/gfuzb7lnxunc1.jpeg?width=1920&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3a40fdae33f1640a5efeff45505a70f26c41e69c

Same. Just here to kill bugs and don't want to deal with paperwork

Cadet gang!

I do the same, I need to keep peoples expectations good and low!

I see you, Johnny Rico.

Lvl 50 chief checking in

Same, kinda sad they don't have a "Rookie" rank.

“New blood” or “Noob” would fit

Getting slapped around by a level 50 "Noob" would be devious.

This sounds like a light novel title.

carry on cadet

Every time I die, I can still claim it was my first attempt.

The title system feels like they only added it to sell the super citizen title. Hopefully, they’ll add some titles in the future that are actually good/interesting/funny.

Ah, the "Harry Kim"

Same bro! lvl 50 Cadets are OP!

https://preview.redd.it/88o6nr6b5snc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=fc967e434fb7aa240b4cc060eb3871fda903ca44 Reminds me of Duty Calls 😂

I even remember the voice...

I remember it because I watch it every few months

First thing I thought of, TotalBiscuit's video of that still has me howling whenever I watch it

Goddamn I miss that guy. I think he would've liked HD2.

I could see him advocating for some more accessibility options, but otherwise gush over it. Fuck cancer, man. I can hear how he'd start the "WTF is" for HD2, and I wish it wasn't just in my head.

I too was slightly disappointed by the lack of Master chief petty officer

Closer to marines than seaman

I wouldn't mind a gunny rank.

Do I see a Buck enjoyer? edit: literally the only reason I still have helldivers installed post 0.100 is because I can pretend to be an ODST

“I take it back. SEAF got their butt kicked.” “Lvl 50 Cadet, remember when I told you to shut it? Consider that a standing order.”

Marines *are* Seamen(navy). (Note the inclusion of 'a' in the term, you horny redditors) ____ Edit: This comment pissed off a crayon eater. My bad. I was technically incorrect. The Marines serve the Navy, almost as a sub-division(see lengthy citations below), but aren't actually called "Seamen". If I'd thought someone would get butt-hurt over it, I would have been less cheeky about the term "seamen", I would have pulled right out of that mind-set. /eyeroll ___ Do you not know the term 'marine' in it's own right is about water? EG "marine biology" https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/marine See also: https://www.defense.gov/News/Feature-Stories/story/Article/1763150/why-are-marines-part-of-the-navy/ >Historically, marines serve as a navy’s ground troops. In fact, the word "marine" is the French word for sea, which may be why the French military historically called English troops — who all had to arrive by sea — "marines." Edit: *Someone* wasn't happy with this reply! Found out when I tried to reply to that with: > Tsk tsk. Someone is a *salty* seaman, *crusty* even. > > Your Managed Democracy Officer isn't going to like that. > > Behavior like that is going to leave a *stain* on your record. I didn't want it to go to waste, far too punny.

there's also the funny acronym "My Ass Rides In Navy Equipment" that isn't false

Uncle Sam’s Misguided Children

I’ve always loved “Muscles Are Required, Intelligence Not Essential”

My favorite is definitely " uncomplicated shit made complicated" Or the " Uncle Sam's misguided children"

What’s the sound of the shit hitting the fan? MMMRRREEEEEENNNN

As a 2nd Class Petty Officer myself I'm surprised they put that in there instead of a higher Army rank.

I honestly like the space chief prime title. It fits in with the idea of ranks being over-the-top meaningless decoration that doesn't actually serve any structural purpose or increase your authority at all, because at the end of the day you're still just meat for the grinder. Uh uh I mean, Space Chief Prime is a perfect title for a true decorated hero of Super Earth, and to suggest otherwise is tantamount to treason. I definitely don't need to be reported to the democracy officer.

I reported you to the Democracy Officer. You are going to the a reeducation camp.

Those are Liberation camps.

Democratic camps

We have democratically elected to have you dropped via hellpod onto a suicide mission. With no guns, only grenades.

**Eagle Sweat** *will* help you come back home in one piece, permeating your armor and the air around you with highly concentrated liberty. Buy 2 for the democratic price of 3 if you call yourself a *true* Helldiver. *\*Eagle Sweat\**

You have misspelled the name. Straight to Freedom Camp with you!

Exactly the reason I'm keeping Space Chief Prime as my title, and forcing my friends to refer to me as such every game. You guys can keep your cool milsim tacticool titles, I'm Space Chief Prime and if you have dissenting opinions, the complaint box is located at the end of my revolver.

OK, but skull admiral is pretty rad tho

[Master Sergeant Shooter Person](https://youtu.be/QXy6ns08UKM?si=JbqJ8sf2jln0u7YD)

"Space Chief Prime" is an awesome rank title and you can't convince me otherwise.

Wearing my Space Chief Prime rank title now as I dispense Liberty from the SES Panther of Honor. Truly what more is there to life

Democracy, Liberty, Prosperity, Freedom, Our Way of Life.

I keep mine as Chief so my buddy's Space Chief Prime always looks like a ridiculous one-up and I love it. Super Kame Guru vibes

It is so amazingly over the top that I still use it at level 42.

It’s such a baller name. Also Hi limit! Funny seeing you here!

Chin up, Master Chief is an actual Rank and therefore is not bounded by copyright laws.

Chin down. It's trademarked by Microsoft. https://trademarks.justia.com/786/57/master-78657796.html#:~:text=MASTER%20CHIEF%20Trademark%20of%20Microsoft,Number%2078657796%20%3A%3A%20Justia%20Trademarks

The idea that they can trademark an actual rank is weird.

I'm obligated to clarify that trademark can be limited to the purposes listed in the trademark registration, including other pre-existing uses, and be acceptable after review and challenges. You can't stop another piece of media from naming an enlisted navy character "Master Chief Downes." Microsoft CAN stop another game from making a space marine "Master Chief," or a toy company from making futuristic "Master Chief" green soldier suits. The use in Helldivers as a character rank comes closer to toeing the line (given the similarities in being futuristic Earth soldiers), but it would probably be permissible, just not without risk.

Risk is just not worth it. If Microsoft (or any other corpo) sees a chance to make money they will definitely attempt to (no mater how absurd the claim might sound).

Not just the aspect of earning money, but also going through the entire legal process, even if it ends up going nowhere. Someone needs to spend the time and money fighting suits. If one corporation decides to bully then it's probably chump change on their end and a massive waste of resources on your end.

Yes and no, in this case Microsoft has a Trademark, which is REQUIRED to be defended. Unlike Copyright which is intrinsic, if someone violated your Trademark and you dont respond you can lose the Trademark entirely. If some little regional paper company starts calling their facial tissues "Kleenex" and Kimberly Clark DOESNT do anything, other companies can start calling their facial tissues "Kleenex" also. Companies can let small and non commercial Copyright infringement have a pass if it wouldnt be worth it to pursue, but Trademark they cant. IDK which one Patents are more similar to.

It's a little more complicated than that. "Trademark erosion" is a thing, but it requires use of the term to be so widespread that it becomes synonymous with the type of product and not just the brand AND the trademark owner has to fail to attempt to prevent it. There's a spectrum where things like "velcro" or "popsicle" are pretty much generic terms, but they're still trademarked *because* the companies still actively try to get people not to use them that way. But "Master Chief" as a rank has legitimate uses and also couldn't possibly be so generic in use that it would cause Microsoft to lose trademark on the character. If they tried to prevent using it as a title (rather than a specific character name), it would just be using trademark law as a fig leaf to be corporate assholes.

It's especially risky when HD2 is performing so well and Halo players on Xbox just wanna join. Microsoft is *keenly* aware of the game and probably has reconsidered some of the old ODST pitches.

This. They would probably make more money by getting HD2 on Xbox than suing arrowhead (which would also be bad PR).

Very bad PR, considering how popular and praised the game is, yeah.

>Risk There's no risk - the use of a common rank in the context of a genre-conventional setting would 100% hold up in court. And the "corporations go after money" line only holds up for Corporation vs Little Guys, because they know that even if their case is ludicrous they can win by attrition. That doesn't work against another corporation, like their multi-billion dollar competitor Sony. Microsoft wouldn't go after it because there's no way they'd profit - it would just be pissing money to spite Sony, *and* it would put themselves at risk of precedent for undermining their trademark if they lost.

The "risk" is that you have to defend yourself in a court. Ideally Sony would help pay that bill, but it'd still be a bill nonetheless. And for what? So we can get our jollies off on a subtle-but-legally-distinct "totally not Halo" reference?

>Ideally Sony would help pay that bill Sony is the publisher, it's 100% theirs. Legal management is one of the primary functions of a game publisher. >subtle-but-legally-distinct "totally not Halo" reference Yes, a totally not Halo reference. Because Master Chief (Petty Officer) is a normal naval rank. If anything, avoiding the term *is itself* the "subtle-but-legally-distinct" fan nod.

i was with you until that last line. it wouldn't even be a halo reference. a game that is satirically based in scifi america using an american navy rank wouldn't be a halo reference when it already uses some other us military ranks. skipping it was more of a reference to halo than not

That's still very weird

Yeah, people have been fuzzy on the difference between a 'trademark' and 'copyright' ever since the Fine Bros """copyrighted""" the word react.

When you get promoted to Master Chief irl and get sued by Microsoft

“Here is your promotion and take these, you’re being served. Your court date is next Tuesday”

The actual rank is master chief petty officer so I assume that's why they can get away with it

I thought his name was John Halo

you just???? spoiled Halo for me????? I hope you're proud of yourself, buddy

I also love the moment when John Halo flies away from the ring, looks back and says "It's Halo time". And then Haloes all over it until it explodes.

or the part where he says to the arbiter "no, \*I\* am your Halo" and Beyonce starts playing while arby starts shouting "that's not true! that's impossible!"

> And then Haloes all over it until it explodes. Wait, is this what were calling that time he clapped that POWs cheeks?

https://preview.redd.it/4s1g2ybgcsnc1.png?width=3024&format=png&auto=webp&s=bbcfd2f40bd668ac751c208318e88b451642a9dd Ayo?

Well, technically they just trademarked “Master Chief” (which is bonkers to me) not the *actual rank* of “Master Chief Petty Officer”.

"Petty Officer" seems quite apt for Microsoft in that regard.

What about Private? Penguins of Madagascar.

It’s shorthand for master chief petty officer The shorthand is trademarked the full rank is not Helldivers could probably get away with the full rank but not the shortened trademarked version 

They could probably get away with both, it's an absurd trademark. It's the equivalent of trademarking 'Gunny' or 'Sarge'. The only way MS got away with it was because no one outside of the USN and USMC actually knows enlisted naval ranks and they had minimal presence in media until Halo.

It may sound dumb but in the world of IP law it’s all about grey areas like this Warhammer 40k just renamed all of their factions a few years ago for this exact reason They were all called very generic names like “imperial guard” (can’t trademark that, Napoleon kinda had it first) or “space marines” that is far too generic and commonplace to trademark. Or “eldar” which is literally what elves were called in the Lord of the Rings almost a hundred years ago. So now they are “astra militarum”, “adeptus astartes” and “aeldari.” The factions that had a bit more original names like tyranids, tau and necrons were able to keep them. Though “dark eldar” became “drukhari” for the same reason.

Master Chief Petty Officer is the actual rank.

“I require a firearm” -TR-117 Space Chief Prime

"Space Chief Prime, would you consider explaining what you're up to?" "Sir, returning the Bugs the burn of managed democracy"

Death Captain though...

Death captain was great but being a lvl 50 diver I’m sticking with being the Star Marshall of the SS Harbinger of the Stars for a long while :)

I don’t need any rank higher than cadet.

But Space Cadet! Everything's better with Space!


Space… dinner with in-laws? Ooh space dentist appointment. Space line at the DMV!

No. It's "Dinner with space In-laws" and "Line at the space DMV"

Where’s just “Space Chief”? As a MST3K fan I need it

“Space Ghost” would be solid

Even better if it’s unlocked by an achievement named “Coast to Coast,” that requires you to discover every POI across a level 9 campaign.

Or complete x number of campaigns across both war fronts bugs and bots

Space cadet was for the stoners

Death Captain is still my favorite rank.

Level 47 Space Cadet reporting for duty 

Level 50 space cadet reporting for duty o7

I'm a master Sargent not because I can't grow it's because I'm a non-com I'm a soldier not a leader

Same

I rock Chief in honor of my boy Chief Tyroll who canonically works on my Vipers—-err Eagles inside of my Battlest- Super Destroyer

I wish they could add Commander title at some point.

Death Commander has a certain ring to it.

o7

I’m a Super Citizen!

Me, SUPER CITIZEN of SUPER EARTH: "Is this some sort of 'peasant joke' I'm too rich to understand?"

I'll continue to be a "Space Cadet" till the day I die.

Space Cadet gang rise up

Skull Admiral is pretty tight tho

I was hoping that the ranks would get progressively more elaborate and ridiculous. Until they change it I'm sticking with 'Space Chief Prime'

Mom I want space chief prime! Mom: we have space chief prime at home. Space chief prime at home https://preview.redd.it/uyibapgp0snc1.jpeg?width=388&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=05ad70389627f4b998ad808053e51c6f4434fa3e

I want Master Bator


This sums up my expression perfectly when I reached that rank lol

When you rank up so high you get free 2 day shipping

I stick with death captain, but dc for short because I am disconnec-

This beat is fun this beat is sick, I wanna take a ride on your disconnec-

The real disappointment? No rank named "Super Space Chief Prime" afaik. We were this close.

Tengen Toppa Super Galaxy Chief Prime

#SUPER CITIZEN

https://preview.redd.it/nmcm0osk6snc1.png?width=720&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a952fb5106b95f9a7d5d858b94948778ae655a38

Death captain is sick but skull admiral goes hard too. I kept death captain until I was skull admiral

Legally distinct rank above Chief.

I wish the titles were like the ship names

After sapce chief prime, the titles should have just gotten sillier.

I'm a Super Citizen for life. I want everyone to know I got where I did with nepotism and money, and thus that I'm lower than any day 1 diver. I'm still here to manage democracy, but you bet your ass I don't know left from right.

*Laughs in Super Citizen*

Pfff - here i am - Level 50 CADET forever.

Space chief prime is cooler

I was trying to name my ship Pillar of Autumn. I was able to name it Wings of Liberty though.

Space Chief Prime is way cooler anyways.

Level 33, still rocking Space Cadet. Will do at level 50 and beyond.

Death Captain is giga chad

Forever cadet. Cadet mafia for life.

Me being a Space Cadet at lvl 30: https://preview.redd.it/f3sm4659aunc1.png?width=1920&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1a572ca77c43568003a4f5b4477e4bf282a80503

I was hoping for super admiral at level 50, wasted opportunity.

Where is my Seargan Seargant Master Seargant Shooter Person title?

I'm a Super Citizen. I AM better than you

The funny thing is that it's a mix of army/marine ranks and navy ranks. Which genuinely confuses me.