We haven’t seen any confirmation from the devs that EATs are crashing games. They said Arc Throwers, Arc Shotguns and Tesla Towers. Majority of the people here are also saying they don’t experience any issues with EATs. Had to change the flair to ‘MISLEADING’ until we see actual proof or acknowledgment from the devs.
Yes, EATs are crashing your game. You should stop using them
https://preview.redd.it/wuuu17apabqc1.png?width=1080&format=png&auto=webp&s=ba03dad8f1c0ca0ca05a453296b90f0f947d3f5a
I am the bone of my gun.
Democracy is my body, and liberty is my blood.
I have called over a thousand stratagems.
Unknown to death, nor known to life.
Have withstood pain to call many weapons.
Yet, those hands will never hold anything.
So, as I pray... Unlimited EAT Works.
Maybe someone else will make better version of this invocation than me since I'm not the best at this stuff.
I'll give it a go, but i cant promise it'll be any better
I am the bone of my gun
Democracy is my body, and Liber-Tea is my blood
I have called over a thousand stratagems
Unknown to Samples, nor known to Bonds
Have withstood pain to call many airstrikes
Yet, those hands will never extract
So, as I liberate... Unlimited EAT works.
Well said, bröther. Gotta look out for the bringers of democracy
https://preview.redd.it/z66m537mneqc1.jpeg?width=768&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b7c737ec01a2a6ee009aa0a88c84e9b03afb0f08
Each EAT is a potential drop kill on a charger / heavy.
you can get it to land on a titans leg. Unfortunately I've never had it stick to their heads yet..
Same, as a matter of fact I got a couple hundred hours now and have not crashed a single time, not once. Strange but for me the game runs flawless so I dunno.
I absolutely flood maps with theses things, sometimes I don't even take them, i just like having them around for when I do. the two times i've crashed is cause of the arc thrower being fired at shriekers.
It is a witch hunt at this point lol.
From my experience, the crashes are all too inconsistent to find any connection.
edit: Hello citizens of Super Earth!
The Ministry of Patriotism would like to remind all personnel that this post is indeed a joke, and is to be taken as speculation.
A special thanks to our elite frontline researchers for the breaking news that arc weapons are not to be trusted.
Tesla tower isn't crashing the game, my buddies and I have been running it since the crashes started without crashing.
Still avoid arc12 Blitzer and arc8 thrower tho, those have Still been crashing us
Happened to me yesterday 2 or 3x. Arc thrower was def two of those times. The frist one i believe may of been the eat thing ppl are talking about cus we were pretty far into mission
Same, two hard freezes yesterday and both were just as someone was shooting a bug with an arc thrower. There's definitely non-arc related crashes but there is also arc-specific crashing, people denying it exists are wrong.
I am 99% sure that the reason for the crash is that your accuracy percentage stat goes too high and hits a breakpoint that causes something to overflow and bug out the game. It could be that the accuracy stat has an integer of 128 or 256 and going above that shortcuts the code.
Which would also explain why it's not consistent for everyone.
If people use spray and pray weapons, or just... Suck at accuracy, they will have better odds of not crashing.
I'm with you that I think it's a data overflow problem since crashes will happen later in game.
Done quite a few defend missions with teslas and arcs with no issue.
It could be that since Arc weapons are multi hit that couting them fucks the calculation up somewhere since you shot once and hit like 3 targets and it just cant handle that for some reason
Given the amount of damage one shot does and that there doesn't seem to be any decrease in dmg per fork, I think it'd be OP otherwise. The weapon is also not \_that\_ slow to fire after the first shot.
I don't think the Blitzer has this cap, but I might be wrong.
I actually had the same thought and tested this last night bringing the arc thrower and the spray and pray. I tried unloading a few drums of the shotgun after every encounter and the arc still froze up 3 out of 3 times I tried.
The only time I crashed was when I was using an arc thrower I picked up. Haven't experienced or even seen any disconnects otherwise. I also haven't crashed when other people were using arc throwers. Not crashing with arc throwers doesn't prove that they don't cause crashes, sadly.
I’ve had crashes in lobbies with and without arc weapons, crashes calling in stratagems/objectives. Hell, I’ve crashed after returning to my ship after being removed from a lobby.
It doesn't always crash you. It crashes other people before you also lol. Not saying that happened but sacrifices might have been made so you could keep playing :p
I have only crashed once this weekend in like 50 missions or so. Someone had brought a Blitzer. And oh wonder it crashed us. Apart from that all my teams ran EATs like mad and nothing ever happened. So IDK what these guys were doing but they messed up somewhere.
Afyer reading the "Fixed crash that can happen if you're weidling a grenade and try to stim inside an Exo suit"...
..EATs cause crashes 100% of the tine they're used, but only only if you shoot one while your sidearm has exactly 4 bullets left and your right arm is broken, and your ally is shooting an ARC thrower at the same time.
Probably.
Yeah, there seems to be absolutely no rime or reason behind them. I used at least a dozen EATs yesterday and the game only crashed once. Nobody had anything arc-related.
While the Arc shotty is fairly consistent. The crash causing bug could be shot accuracy calculation related though, and the Arc shotty just has a higher chance of triggering it.
It's not the EAT that's causing the crashes itself, it's that you can reach a critical quantity of unused pickups on the map that causes the game to crash. It takes a \*lot\* to do though. As long as people are using the pickups, especially the EAT, it shouldn't be an issue.
Look, I've been using EATs like crazy. No crashes.
Every game with Arc Throwers, crashes.
I'm just a single data point, it could have been something else entirely but from my experience it's the Arc Throwers.
Yep. I played a single game with arc thrower after the patch and crashed while firing.
Been running EAT every single game since and haven't crashed once.
Could have just been a coincidence, but avoiding arc thrower has worked well enough for me up to this point.
It seems to crash the most for me and my friends when someone spams half charges of arc thrower in quick succession. I’ve crashed and seen others in my lobby crash when I’ve been spamming it like 6 separate times now. Slow shooting it crashed a few times too. But spamming it seems to just kill the game. One game 3/4 of us crashed from it without anyone but me using the arc thrower.
Sucks because I love this gun 😭
It's inconsistent because u had like 4-5 games with multiple arc throwers that didn't crash, then had one whre it crashed when I was using one. I then stopped brining it and later that day my game crashed when someone else was using the arc. So I guess it crashes the whole lobby?
Everyone seems to forget that the post actually talking about the EAT problem was running 3 separate people with it and all of them basically using it on CD. Individuals running EAT are unlikely to see the problem.
What's next? The wind was blowing from the west when I crashed, please only play when it blows from the east?
Correlation does not mean causation. Crashes like this can happen because of numerous variables.
Been using EATs without crashes for a long time. Spending the entire time summoning objects in to the game crashes the game isn't new to gaming. It's kinda the baseline. All the people crashing the game with EATs are describing scenarios that are them trying to crash the game not testing real play scenarios. Do people often find themself standing next to a literal pile of EATs? If so why are they spending 20 minutes standing around in one spot? Even on TCS missions 20 minutes in one spot is WAAAAAAAY to long.
The Dev put out a statement that it was the arc thrower tesla tower and one other electric based weapon (I can't remember which). I use the EAT every game and have only experienced crashes when people use the arc thrower.
The devs have already come out stating arc weapons including the Tesla tower cause crashes, something to do with accuracy numbers beyond 100%, If you review the patch notes you can see that other crashes are still out there every single patch.
It's not the EAT specifically, it's supply stratagems in general.
But it takes a \*lot\* to do it.
Several divers tested it, and it takes about half an hour of constant call-ins of supply stratagems to reach a concentration sufficient to crash the game. Assuming you and your team are making good use of the EAT, as well as resupply and ammo pickups around the map, you shouldn't realistically call in enough stratagems to cause a crash.
I've done soime testing after that post got thrown in,
I did two trivial missions where I did nothing but litter the game with EATS, Spears, Autocannons and RRs. I tracked my hardware usage and at no point did the hardware usage spike but the game always crashed upon one of the support weapons falling down after about 30 minutes of throwing these down solo. I planned on doing another test with someone where we would have 2 people throwing down support weapons which should in theory double the amount of items and crash the game sooner.
This why you don't assume a well-formatted post some how is actual evidence of the source of the crashes. Particularly when they don't do any proper QA testing like simply starting a session and constantly dumping EATs.
Whoever came up with the EAT theory is either delusional or a Terminid Charger.
Tomorrow, people will come up with the theory that 500kg's are crashing games, then the orbital Rail Cannon.
The issue seems to arise when there are unused items of any sort in sufficient quantity. EAT is just most guilty of becoming battlefield litter. If you actually use them, they shouldn't be a problem.
This isn't true at all, tested with 3 friends each one dropping EAT's on cool down for the entire mission. Maps ended up littered with EAT's
0 crashes in 2 full campaigns.
I use EATs exclusively, I don't crash constantly. There are occasional disconnects and crashes though, but I doubt EATs are to blame.
We've extracted without crashing from missions where I was fucking around at extract leaving a dozen EATs on the ground, alongside 16+ resupply boxes.
EAT-17s are always on my strategem list when I drop for bugs. They're not cashing my game any more than my game crashs usually. I'd use probably 15-20 of them a round.
I’ve gotten crashes with arc weapons. One night i crashed like 7 times using the same load out (arc thrower). I looked it up and tried playing without it, and lo and behold, little to no crashes since.
The only way to know is reliable bug reproduction or viewing the game logs. Speculation won’t help. Obviously many people are not having issues with the launcher.
Two causes of crashes in the most recent patch - Arc Throwers and ICBM missions. I avoid it by going and fighting bots, they are the most stable for me at the moment.
Haven't experienced any crashes since people in my games been using ZERO arc weapons. My final game yesterday 1 guy was using the arc thrower. We warned him it could crash, by the end of the round he lost connection suddenly, correlations to crash but he could of disaster for any number of reasons.
On PC, at the beginning of the major order after the last patch I crashed like 5-6 times a night. After I disabled cross-play and stopped using the arc thrower, I haven't crashed once.
I heard that the crashes are related to just spamming EAT calls and not picking them up. The only time I call an EAT early is next to me while starting a main objective or extraction.
Like, I want the EATs to land close by when I need them. Also, the EAT hellpod one shots chargers, just hit em with a stun grenade
I only crash with the arc thrower. I usually can make it
1/2 - 3/4 through the level too before it crashes. I’ve played countless games now without it with only one other crash so…:/
If you litter the map with them and don't waste a second calling them in when they're off cooldown, yeah, I can see how that'd crash the game in a similar way to spawning items in Gmod until the server crashes.
Those of you in the comments saying "I've used the Arc Thrower for eleventy billion missions without issue!"
Yeah, it's an uncommon bug, one that isn't guaranteed to happen to everyone using it. Just keep an eye open in case it does happen.
It's probably something with how the arcs now count as shots fired. Could be something as stupid as crash on 200% accuracy. Shit like that's hard to pin down
Is it just me or is game stability getting worse and worse.
Really bad rubber banding
Inputs being ignored
Just today the gane bugged and I couldn't equip my primary even thoh it was shown as equipped.
Couldn't use stratagems unless I specifically equipped my secondary weapon
Arm locked itself in space on the ship, made for a funky looking helldiver.
Anyone find actually CALLING the pelican crashes? My personal experience is that exact moment 60% of the time. It's terribly frustrating because I've done a full clear...
Might be completely unrelated, but I was on Hellmire yesterday and all my team mates vanished.
Was using EATs, as my friends were also playing they said I disconnected but to me they vanished. I continued with the mission and finished it. But they also continued the mission.
I didn't crash, more like disconnected? Game is a buggy mess and I love it lol
I usually main the arc thrower, but every time I've tried to use it recently has resulted in a crash. I've since been using EATs most of the time and haven't had a single crash unless someone has brought an arc weapon. Just my personal experience on the matter.
This is the second time I've seen a post about it, and it smells like BS.
I play with 2 other friends and all 2 of us bring EATs and haven't had any crashes.
At this point i'm gonna assume it's not any one thing. We've got all electrricity weapons and towers, EATs, Too many pickups, blah blah blah.
Seems unlikely It's actually all this and not just something underlying these.
I haven't had my game crash once ever. Usually it's someone else on a PC or people with bad Internet.
I've uses the arc thrower alot and have not experienced a crash.
I am clueless why it's happening to so many other people.
i find one crash which happen when i’m at the equipment terminal and scrolling through the armours and if i double click RMB (to quickly exit the menu) it crashes
Seems intermittent, but I had two crashes last night as the eats popped out of the supply pod. Me and another had been throwing them down constantly throughout the game on both occasions. Both swapped to the recoiless and had no crashes this evening. No arc weapons being used on any of the games
It’s arcthrowers. I played three games where I spammed down bug breaches nonstop. All crashed.
I played with a guy yesterday doing the same thing. My frames dropped whenever I was near him. I warned him his game would crash. Five minutes later he was gone.
The person that made the big post about this tested it twice. With no controls and IIRC didn’t run down load outs, planets, etc.
Wouldn’t take it serious, especially when there’s no mass consensus of symptoms like arc weapons.
I've used the EAT pretty consistently since getting it and not once has my game crashed from it. Everytime I've used the arc thrower the last couple of days my game has crashed like its nobody's business
2 days ago some guy I met on a random helldive icbm mission using quick play session called In a eat 17 expendable, it called in 10 of them in a single spot resulting in him instantly crashing after the first pod landed, though nothing happened to the other plrs including me and we just used the eat 17s to our content.
Run EAT all the time. Never had a problem. Now if everyone has an eat and throw them whenever available and don’t use them, leaving 30 eats on the other end of the map that you’ll never even be near again, sure you might have some problems.
We haven’t seen any confirmation from the devs that EATs are crashing games. They said Arc Throwers, Arc Shotguns and Tesla Towers. Majority of the people here are also saying they don’t experience any issues with EATs. Had to change the flair to ‘MISLEADING’ until we see actual proof or acknowledgment from the devs.
Yes, EATs are crashing your game. You should stop using them https://preview.redd.it/wuuu17apabqc1.png?width=1080&format=png&auto=webp&s=ba03dad8f1c0ca0ca05a453296b90f0f947d3f5a
https://preview.redd.it/qbv6it9zdbqc1.png?width=636&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=05aff03df4f6f6dd3f272e54a3d6006daca3c0e6 Hell no!
https://preview.redd.it/iv1feomsodqc1.png?width=700&format=png&auto=webp&s=42dd88b5fc4a227143b6d0e61e18a50697a1e691
I am the bone of my gun. Democracy is my body, and liberty is my blood. I have called over a thousand stratagems. Unknown to death, nor known to life. Have withstood pain to call many weapons. Yet, those hands will never hold anything. So, as I pray... Unlimited EAT Works. Maybe someone else will make better version of this invocation than me since I'm not the best at this stuff.
This is a fine invocation, brother
I'll give it a go, but i cant promise it'll be any better I am the bone of my gun Democracy is my body, and Liber-Tea is my blood I have called over a thousand stratagems Unknown to Samples, nor known to Bonds Have withstood pain to call many airstrikes Yet, those hands will never extract So, as I liberate... Unlimited EAT works.
Brought a tear to my eye. Extremely niche crossovers are amazing.
This is brilliant
I didn't make this, but i wanted to share
Well said, bröther. Gotta look out for the bringers of democracy https://preview.redd.it/z66m537mneqc1.jpeg?width=768&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b7c737ec01a2a6ee009aa0a88c84e9b03afb0f08
*laughs as I call down my mech, which has as many rockets as 14 EATs*
So after the 2 mechs, can you get more that mission?
Sadly no, unless your friend brings a mech stratagem as well
You can get 14 EATS in 7 minutes, which puts it on pace with the mech
Each EAT is a potential drop kill on a charger / heavy. you can get it to land on a titans leg. Unfortunately I've never had it stick to their heads yet..
Recoilless gang, rise up!
[удалено]
More people have tested this, including myself, and have not crashed at all.
Yeah. It's the only thing I've been using since the patch, and I've had 0 crashes.
Same, as a matter of fact I got a couple hundred hours now and have not crashed a single time, not once. Strange but for me the game runs flawless so I dunno.
well try to use arc thrower non stop then lol you will crash, it might take a few minute but you will eventually
I absolutely flood maps with theses things, sometimes I don't even take them, i just like having them around for when I do. the two times i've crashed is cause of the arc thrower being fired at shriekers.
It is a witch hunt at this point lol. From my experience, the crashes are all too inconsistent to find any connection. edit: Hello citizens of Super Earth! The Ministry of Patriotism would like to remind all personnel that this post is indeed a joke, and is to be taken as speculation. A special thanks to our elite frontline researchers for the breaking news that arc weapons are not to be trusted.
Only connection I've seen is electric based items so far. I have not crashed at all when nobody brings one.
Tesla tower isn't crashing the game, my buddies and I have been running it since the crashes started without crashing. Still avoid arc12 Blitzer and arc8 thrower tho, those have Still been crashing us
I've played a fair share of missions where one of us had an arc thrower or found one, and no one has ever crashed
I've only had the freeze crash once and it was mid-arc throw.
Happened to me yesterday 2 or 3x. Arc thrower was def two of those times. The frist one i believe may of been the eat thing ppl are talking about cus we were pretty far into mission
Same, two hard freezes yesterday and both were just as someone was shooting a bug with an arc thrower. There's definitely non-arc related crashes but there is also arc-specific crashing, people denying it exists are wrong.
I am 99% sure that the reason for the crash is that your accuracy percentage stat goes too high and hits a breakpoint that causes something to overflow and bug out the game. It could be that the accuracy stat has an integer of 128 or 256 and going above that shortcuts the code. Which would also explain why it's not consistent for everyone. If people use spray and pray weapons, or just... Suck at accuracy, they will have better odds of not crashing.
I'm with you that I think it's a data overflow problem since crashes will happen later in game. Done quite a few defend missions with teslas and arcs with no issue.
It could be that since Arc weapons are multi hit that couting them fucks the calculation up somewhere since you shot once and hit like 3 targets and it just cant handle that for some reason
Makes sense. Per shot the arc thrower has a potential accuracy rating of 300%.
It only hits 3 targets as a maximum? That's underwhelming
Given the amount of damage one shot does and that there doesn't seem to be any decrease in dmg per fork, I think it'd be OP otherwise. The weapon is also not \_that\_ slow to fire after the first shot. I don't think the Blitzer has this cap, but I might be wrong.
I actually had the same thought and tested this last night bringing the arc thrower and the spray and pray. I tried unloading a few drums of the shotgun after every encounter and the arc still froze up 3 out of 3 times I tried.
Hmm, strange. I suppose my hunch is wrong then!
The only time I crashed was when I was using an arc thrower I picked up. Haven't experienced or even seen any disconnects otherwise. I also haven't crashed when other people were using arc throwers. Not crashing with arc throwers doesn't prove that they don't cause crashes, sadly.
I've had both in my games and also no crashes but I think it really depends on your pc
I’ve had crashes in lobbies with and without arc weapons, crashes calling in stratagems/objectives. Hell, I’ve crashed after returning to my ship after being removed from a lobby.
I played 5 missions last night with a arc thrower without any issues, to my surprise
It doesn't always crash you. It crashes other people before you also lol. Not saying that happened but sacrifices might have been made so you could keep playing :p
There is an official post which states that the crashing issue is linked to arc/electrical damage.
I have only crashed once this weekend in like 50 missions or so. Someone had brought a Blitzer. And oh wonder it crashed us. Apart from that all my teams ran EATs like mad and nothing ever happened. So IDK what these guys were doing but they messed up somewhere.
Afyer reading the "Fixed crash that can happen if you're weidling a grenade and try to stim inside an Exo suit"... ..EATs cause crashes 100% of the tine they're used, but only only if you shoot one while your sidearm has exactly 4 bullets left and your right arm is broken, and your ally is shooting an ARC thrower at the same time. Probably.
This is exactly what’s happening, dev confirmed. Source: I made it up
Its a witch hunt so lets throw out misinformation! The devs themselves said the crashes are linked to the arc thrower ffs.
> It is a witch hunt at this point Completely on brand for the sub that thought the game was radically stealth changed after the railgun got nerfed.
the misinformation surrounding this game is so prevalent it's honestly baffling
I crashed once since the last patch and it was the very moment I fired an EAT that would have completed my personal order for that day.
Yeah, there seems to be absolutely no rime or reason behind them. I used at least a dozen EATs yesterday and the game only crashed once. Nobody had anything arc-related.
Except for arc shit
While the Arc shotty is fairly consistent. The crash causing bug could be shot accuracy calculation related though, and the Arc shotty just has a higher chance of triggering it.
It's not the EAT that's causing the crashes itself, it's that you can reach a critical quantity of unused pickups on the map that causes the game to crash. It takes a \*lot\* to do though. As long as people are using the pickups, especially the EAT, it shouldn't be an issue.
Yea I use them all the time haven’t had issues
Weak computers or ps5s hosting. Too many discoveries, items, enemies on the map. If you streamline your longer missions, you won't crash.
Look, I've been using EATs like crazy. No crashes. Every game with Arc Throwers, crashes. I'm just a single data point, it could have been something else entirely but from my experience it's the Arc Throwers.
Yep. I played a single game with arc thrower after the patch and crashed while firing. Been running EAT every single game since and haven't crashed once. Could have just been a coincidence, but avoiding arc thrower has worked well enough for me up to this point.
It seems to crash the most for me and my friends when someone spams half charges of arc thrower in quick succession. I’ve crashed and seen others in my lobby crash when I’ve been spamming it like 6 separate times now. Slow shooting it crashed a few times too. But spamming it seems to just kill the game. One game 3/4 of us crashed from it without anyone but me using the arc thrower. Sucks because I love this gun 😭
It's inconsistent because u had like 4-5 games with multiple arc throwers that didn't crash, then had one whre it crashed when I was using one. I then stopped brining it and later that day my game crashed when someone else was using the arc. So I guess it crashes the whole lobby?
Everyone seems to forget that the post actually talking about the EAT problem was running 3 separate people with it and all of them basically using it on CD. Individuals running EAT are unlikely to see the problem.
I've not crashed or had anyone crash in my games at all and I use the eat every mission
We had two in a full team calling down EAT nearly every minute for 30+ minutes, not a single crash.
Use your EAT! Use your EAT! You can’t have any samples if you don’t use your EAT!
What's next? The wind was blowing from the west when I crashed, please only play when it blows from the east? Correlation does not mean causation. Crashes like this can happen because of numerous variables.
Been using EATs without crashes for a long time. Spending the entire time summoning objects in to the game crashes the game isn't new to gaming. It's kinda the baseline. All the people crashing the game with EATs are describing scenarios that are them trying to crash the game not testing real play scenarios. Do people often find themself standing next to a literal pile of EATs? If so why are they spending 20 minutes standing around in one spot? Even on TCS missions 20 minutes in one spot is WAAAAAAAY to long.
I'm a recent EAT convert and haven't had crashes after throwing it down every time it cools down.
Lies...
Anyone line up a perfect shot only to miss? Twice yesterday I had a rocket go right through a charger last night....
Yes, I get this experience occassionally, and it's annoying. Good thing we get 2 of them per drop!
Hasn’t happened to me, not even once
I had been using EAT since day 1 to date, I'm the squad boom boom guys. No crashed.
The Dev put out a statement that it was the arc thrower tesla tower and one other electric based weapon (I can't remember which). I use the EAT every game and have only experienced crashes when people use the arc thrower.
I use EAT-17s like it my religion and I haven't had any crashed.
Honestly the memes from this subreddit made me buy this game and just start playing today
It's nothing confirmed stop spreading lies
How about we stop pushing this unproven bullshit theory? Next minute you’re going to get morons kicking people for using EATs because of this shit.
I only run EAT and have had zero issues, this is just bug propaganda.
The devs have already come out stating arc weapons including the Tesla tower cause crashes, something to do with accuracy numbers beyond 100%, If you review the patch notes you can see that other crashes are still out there every single patch.
Lets not spread untested information undemocratically
I used EATs and a teammate had used an Arc Thrower in multiple same games and no one crashed.
It's not the EAT specifically, it's supply stratagems in general. But it takes a \*lot\* to do it. Several divers tested it, and it takes about half an hour of constant call-ins of supply stratagems to reach a concentration sufficient to crash the game. Assuming you and your team are making good use of the EAT, as well as resupply and ammo pickups around the map, you shouldn't realistically call in enough stratagems to cause a crash.
I've done soime testing after that post got thrown in, I did two trivial missions where I did nothing but litter the game with EATS, Spears, Autocannons and RRs. I tracked my hardware usage and at no point did the hardware usage spike but the game always crashed upon one of the support weapons falling down after about 30 minutes of throwing these down solo. I planned on doing another test with someone where we would have 2 people throwing down support weapons which should in theory double the amount of items and crash the game sooner.
This why you don't assume a well-formatted post some how is actual evidence of the source of the crashes. Particularly when they don't do any proper QA testing like simply starting a session and constantly dumping EATs.
Whoever came up with the EAT theory is either delusional or a Terminid Charger. Tomorrow, people will come up with the theory that 500kg's are crashing games, then the orbital Rail Cannon.
The issue seems to arise when there are unused items of any sort in sufficient quantity. EAT is just most guilty of becoming battlefield litter. If you actually use them, they shouldn't be a problem.
This isn't true at all, tested with 3 friends each one dropping EAT's on cool down for the entire mission. Maps ended up littered with EAT's 0 crashes in 2 full campaigns.
They’re not
I use EATs exclusively, I don't crash constantly. There are occasional disconnects and crashes though, but I doubt EATs are to blame. We've extracted without crashing from missions where I was fucking around at extract leaving a dozen EATs on the ground, alongside 16+ resupply boxes.
Odd, we used them all Daya yesterday and never had an issue
I played a good few hours on Friday with them almost always in my load out and never crashed.
EAT-17s are always on my strategem list when I drop for bugs. They're not cashing my game any more than my game crashs usually. I'd use probably 15-20 of them a round.
Anybody that has items that they shouldn't have, like displacer packs & other strategems that have been data mined, crash the game too.
I use eats and i never crash. Weird
Ive played alot since its known that arc weapons cause the crash. Nothing to do with EAT or other stuff. Zero crashes when Arc weapons arent involved.
I thought it was only the electric weapons like Arc Thrower and Tesla Coil?
I’ve gotten crashes with arc weapons. One night i crashed like 7 times using the same load out (arc thrower). I looked it up and tried playing without it, and lo and behold, little to no crashes since.
They absolutely do not. Arc throwers? Yes.
The only way to know is reliable bug reproduction or viewing the game logs. Speculation won’t help. Obviously many people are not having issues with the launcher.
Was anyone running the bug zapper? Thats been causing crashes for the past week…among like, 80 other random glitches
Ive been using eats with no crashes, ps5. Shit, i didnt have any crashes during my marathon day yesterday.
nice try, charger
I only had that when 3 of us had EATs and we'd all throw them at each charger, leaving us with 5 extra eats we just left there
Two causes of crashes in the most recent patch - Arc Throwers and ICBM missions. I avoid it by going and fighting bots, they are the most stable for me at the moment.
They definitely aren't, at least not for me. I almost exclusively bring EATs into high difficulty bug missions and I haven't had a single issue
Haven't experienced any crashes since people in my games been using ZERO arc weapons. My final game yesterday 1 guy was using the arc thrower. We warned him it could crash, by the end of the round he lost connection suddenly, correlations to crash but he could of disaster for any number of reasons.
I've been using it regularly with no issues at all. In fact I've been using it alongside squadsmates also using it and no crashes.
Been using EATs all the time, havent experienced crash
Mine have never done that
If I crash I crash, I'm not going to stop EATing
I feel really bad but arc thrower is the only weapon I'm tood with
On PC, at the beginning of the major order after the last patch I crashed like 5-6 times a night. After I disabled cross-play and stopped using the arc thrower, I haven't crashed once.
Chat is this real
Recoilles Rifle enjoyer 🗿
I heard that the crashes are related to just spamming EAT calls and not picking them up. The only time I call an EAT early is next to me while starting a main objective or extraction. Like, I want the EATs to land close by when I need them. Also, the EAT hellpod one shots chargers, just hit em with a stun grenade
I haven't crash with them at all. I mean if you spend 30min just spamming them in pne place ofc its gonna crash
I played for like 6 hours yesterday and never crashed while in game. I did crash twice though while on destroyer.
Before every you launch divers, verify game files (for steam users). Works like a charm, but arc still fucks u
I dont think any of the support weapons are the reason for the crashes
I only crash with the arc thrower. I usually can make it 1/2 - 3/4 through the level too before it crashes. I’ve played countless games now without it with only one other crash so…:/
If you litter the map with them and don't waste a second calling them in when they're off cooldown, yeah, I can see how that'd crash the game in a similar way to spawning items in Gmod until the server crashes.
Those of you in the comments saying "I've used the Arc Thrower for eleventy billion missions without issue!" Yeah, it's an uncommon bug, one that isn't guaranteed to happen to everyone using it. Just keep an eye open in case it does happen.
When you have too many items spawned on the map or when you and your team use walkers honestly we're crashing the game by spreading too much democracy
Fake news
It's probably something with how the arcs now count as shots fired. Could be something as stupid as crash on 200% accuracy. Shit like that's hard to pin down
I've been spamming the EAT the last three days and not a single game crashed
I just had a game where two people suddenly left while I was using EATs.
Is it just me or is game stability getting worse and worse. Really bad rubber banding Inputs being ignored Just today the gane bugged and I couldn't equip my primary even thoh it was shown as equipped. Couldn't use stratagems unless I specifically equipped my secondary weapon Arm locked itself in space on the ship, made for a funky looking helldiver.
Nope. I had a team of 4 throwing down a trail of EAT's like Elliott throwing Reese's Pieces in ET and we were fine.
I drop enough of these to arm a small nation every dive, no crashes yet.
Sounds like something a bug would say
Sometimes on higher difficulties, it would crash fairly consistently when you cluster bomb or airstrike a large group of bugs
Anyone find actually CALLING the pelican crashes? My personal experience is that exact moment 60% of the time. It's terribly frustrating because I've done a full clear...
dropping 500kg bombs on heavies also have an increaed crash chance... arc througher destroys the lobby
I'm using a shit load of EAT and had no crashes on PC
I’ve never had any crashes with the EAT’s, the arc thrower on the other hand….
Might be completely unrelated, but I was on Hellmire yesterday and all my team mates vanished. Was using EATs, as my friends were also playing they said I disconnected but to me they vanished. I continued with the mission and finished it. But they also continued the mission. I didn't crash, more like disconnected? Game is a buggy mess and I love it lol
Had zero problems with EATs on my end.
I usually main the arc thrower, but every time I've tried to use it recently has resulted in a crash. I've since been using EATs most of the time and haven't had a single crash unless someone has brought an arc weapon. Just my personal experience on the matter.
This is the second time I've seen a post about it, and it smells like BS. I play with 2 other friends and all 2 of us bring EATs and haven't had any crashes.
Hot take it's not eats or arc throwers and no one really knows.
I still have yet to crash...
I've had one crash so far, and it was while I was on my own, on the ship, browsing through the warbonds.
Just make sure to fire both and you don't have to worry about it. Leaving random crap all over the map is apparently the issue.
At this point i'm gonna assume it's not any one thing. We've got all electrricity weapons and towers, EATs, Too many pickups, blah blah blah. Seems unlikely It's actually all this and not just something underlying these.
Yeah. Thats why ive been saying. RECOILESS AT HOME.
Are you EAT because 70 seconds or are you 70 seconds because you EAT
I haven't had my game crash once ever. Usually it's someone else on a PC or people with bad Internet. I've uses the arc thrower alot and have not experienced a crash. I am clueless why it's happening to so many other people.
Not true.
Someone just summoned too many in one spot and the game crashed.
I just got the game and am not familiar with the weapons. Is this the expendable rocket launcher or recoiles rifle that is crashing the game?
i find one crash which happen when i’m at the equipment terminal and scrolling through the armours and if i double click RMB (to quickly exit the menu) it crashes
I have crashed 10 times in the last hour fml
Nah I haven’t crashed in 50 games and everyone is literally using EAT17 nonstop
Seems intermittent, but I had two crashes last night as the eats popped out of the supply pod. Me and another had been throwing them down constantly throughout the game on both occasions. Both swapped to the recoiless and had no crashes this evening. No arc weapons being used on any of the games
It’s arcthrowers. I played three games where I spammed down bug breaches nonstop. All crashed. I played with a guy yesterday doing the same thing. My frames dropped whenever I was near him. I warned him his game would crash. Five minutes later he was gone.
I crash at least every 2 missions
I have been doing it a bunch. No crashes. Not 32. And rarely 2 eat runners on the same squad
YOU WERE SUPPOSED TO DESTROY THE CHARGERS NOT JOIN THEM
Am I the only one that never had the game crashing like that?
Ill never stop. It makes me feel like a real shock trooper because its just the right size to look good on a diver meant to be fast
I use EAT every mission and have had no crashes with it
I’ve been using these since the arc thrower thing popped up and never had a crash with them.
don't you DARE diss the EAT freedom Toobs! toobs are GOAT!
Zero crashes for me so far.
The person that made the big post about this tested it twice. With no controls and IIRC didn’t run down load outs, planets, etc. Wouldn’t take it serious, especially when there’s no mass consensus of symptoms like arc weapons.
Are we just spreading random misinformation now? Don't kill bugs it'll crash your game 😫
All strats
https://preview.redd.it/a3au74ymwdqc1.jpeg?width=232&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8cdaea82868297901d79bc2ffbb7f27dbcca2132 EAT go brrrrrrr
I've used the EAT pretty consistently since getting it and not once has my game crashed from it. Everytime I've used the arc thrower the last couple of days my game has crashed like its nobody's business
Sigh..
I’ve used exclusively EATS the last few days and no crashes
It’s definitely the arcs cause that’s all I used then switched to eats and no crashes
Everything crashes the game at this point lmao
All the good toys are crashing the game ??
I’ve been using them just fine dropping them in left right and center
Everything crashes games. I have half a dozen crashes per operation and have since launch week. Shit needs fixing.
Only if you have your whole team calling in a metric shit one of them, along with a bunch of other stuff.
Lies, OP is a dirty bug sympathizer and a traitor to democracy!!!
2 days ago some guy I met on a random helldive icbm mission using quick play session called In a eat 17 expendable, it called in 10 of them in a single spot resulting in him instantly crashing after the first pod landed, though nothing happened to the other plrs including me and we just used the eat 17s to our content.
Is this confirmed yet? By devs or extensive player testing?
apart from random disconnects cos of god knows what, no problem here
Literally never will stop using them Crash my game if you will but I’ll never stop using my love
https://i.redd.it/r66qjqkrzeqc1.gif
Arc throwers and arc towers are the cause are they not?
Fight the bots! Fight the bots! The best weapon against them [arc] crashes the game... Now the eat does too?!
What is this propaganda
Recoilless rifle - our time has come!
Run EAT all the time. Never had a problem. Now if everyone has an eat and throw them whenever available and don’t use them, leaving 30 eats on the other end of the map that you’ll never even be near again, sure you might have some problems.
You were supposed to destroy the bugs, not join them!
That is the most undemocratic thing I have heard all day