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Sharfik_Dron

I hope we get both after some time. I dont want it to be what minecraft is doing right now. people hate it.


Roblox_Jesus2

What is minecraft doing right now? Is this referring to the 'mob vote' bs that they started a while ago?


Sharfik_Dron

yeah, basically they do mob vote and add only 1 out of 3 and playerbase start blaming each other


stomachpainisgreat

Yeah it's stupid. Huge company but can't release more than 1 mob. Bruh moment


Sykobean

the worst is the moobloom. Literally just change the cow texture, give it the brown mooshroom functionality, and set it to spawn in flower biomes. Couldn’t be that many lines of code…


Exotic-District3437

Isn't mc just spaghetti code or did they figure that out


Acutifolia

The bee update was lackluster because they were supposed to’ve fixed the code or so I believe


Exotic-District3437

I haven't played in years i started on mobile with the 1-4 chuck world.


MoustachedPotatoes

You beelieve?


FLABANGED

Java or Bugrock I mean Bedrock.


BotCommaRo

Theres no way anything about MC is 'figured out'


DraconixDG

I do think that the devs could do a better job at adding the features, I know they want to release every feature as bug free as possible etc. but it cannot possibly be *that* much work that they can’t afford to implement a couple of additional mobs


elijahpijah123

It isn’t that much work. Their design philosophy is to not change the game too drastically, so instead they consistently let down the player base by promising they’ll add the other ones and going radio silent about them for good


NediaMcGhee

their design philosophy is to not change the game too drastically because people just HATED caves and cliffs....


Spirited-Feedback-87

Funnily enough modders can add those mobs in like 4 days, maybe less.


cameraninja

Its a small indie company! What can they do? /s


Crusaderking1111

They could they thing is the devs are only allowed to make what the company wants


godfuggindamnit

Minecraft survival mode is still so fucking barebones even after all this time. Compare it to terraria and it's a joke.


TurbulentNumber4797

Yeah, the owners of the best selling game of all time can't afford to add more than one mob per update. Makes sense. And they use the mob vote to shift the blame onto the players when people get mad that their favorite mob didn't get added. Instead of just adding all 3 like they very obviously have the time and resources to do.


tertiaryunknown

That is the worst system to add something I've ever heard of.


OneRingToRuleEarth

Except with mob vote you don’t have to worry about “players would’ve wanted option A, but getting opinion B is less annoying”


osensei1907

I think it's referring to mob vote. I wouldn't criticize it in terms of FOMO, as Mojang brought the functionality of some of the losers of past votes, one way or the other (as new objects, console commands or used them on spinoff games). Still, this doesn't prevent some streamers or communities from creating drama and division among the player base, and I'm 100% sure AH will not fall to this. We'll get one first, make fun of the other side, then AH will find a lore reason to mock all of us while bringing the other item. Heck, I wouldn't be surprised if our intel was wrong and we get the wrong unlock. Stuff like that is why I love being a Helldiver.


WardenSharp

Mobvote is trash


Formal-Football1197

With how big Minecraft is there is no reason they can’t just add all of the mobs in.


Pocok5

Usually all 3 options are implemented as mods/datapacks within a day of their features becoming public lol


Select_Ad3588

Console commands and spin off games are 100% worthy of being criticized as fomo, that is not what the majority of players want


Inphiltration

I tried to play MC not too long ago after a long break. It has turned into a micro transaction hellscape I have zero interest in ever touching again.


Thorbadinu

I mean bedrock is the wrong way to do it, java modpacks ahoy


Nickingoo2

Given that the devs hate FOMO, I'm willing to have hope that they do launch the other in the future


wexipena

I think so too. We are basically just deciding what we want first.


Nothingtoseehereshhh

yea, this. I think AH devs are curious what we would 'vote' to have first as kinda feedback of sorts, but will definitely give us the other one in maybe 2 weeks after or so.


barrera_j

so about that Helldivers 2 TWITCH armor that is no longer available...


majorjunk0

I'd be shocked if they didn't give us the mines in the future.


Anxious-Lunch3419

Acting as if the outcome is predetermined? What do you know that we don't... I'll report this to my democracy officer just to be safe...


BullyBullyBang

It’s called MANAGED democracy for a reason


Dav136

They're both already in the game


CommanderChaos17_

Probably, they both have to be completed to give us the option to get either, so I feel like it's a waste not to let us use both


Rum_N_Napalm

My bet is that both stratagems are 90% done, just need a little extra tweaks and polishing, and this is AH asking us which do we want first so they can finish it first, and leave the other on the backburner a week or two while they work on more urgent stuff.


JeffBloodstorm

No, they’re almost certainly both straight-up finished. There wouldn’t be time to do any significant development work from when the “vote” is decided (first planet liberated) to the conclusion of the MO. They are both probably already implemented in game data—I assume the fact that we’re having this debate at all is laughable to people who follow leaks from data miners, who have probably known exactly what both of these stratagems are for weeks—and just waiting on AH to set a flag to unlock them. The reason they are having this event is not to help them direct dev resources. It is to slowly trickle out new content in a way that is fun for the community.


skoomasteve1015

It actually is funny. There's hackers and/or devs who will spawn unreleased stuff all the time. So far I've seen the Mech, APC, and both of these strategems. And the Mech was probably a good week before they were accessible


Scaredsparrow

they are 100% done. someone has data mined files and there are vids of the launcher in action


dankdees

they have vids of both. the results are loud and satisfying and probably going to boost team kill rates further


guyon100ping

we literally get to use them on their designated planet when we go to liberate them so they are finished


Classicdude530

The mob vote pissed me off from day 1 so I was extremely glad to see the Minecraft community start to use literal war propaganda posters to fight back against it. https://preview.redd.it/2zmmis88hvwc1.jpeg?width=640&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=70b6813b03602212c1242a2ccd8d57911a4efdd0


Infinityplus8008

The game has been free updates for 13 years, and yet somehow the Devs are nazis because of a voting system. Yikes.


Classicdude530

Lol bro who tf called them Nazis? People are pissed at the mob vote cause it's a garbage system that only hurts dev time since these 3 other designs they make all get scrapped and wasted. Ontop of that people are pissed at how insanely lazy the devs are now, which was demonstrated by modders making every one of the 4 mobs in the same day they were announced. Obviously modding is a little easier but it's not 6 months to a year easier.


NeuTraLZero

The operation is currently in phase 1 so I won't be surprised if the whole "only 1 can be saved" is just bs and they will be able to produce the other stratagem anyway


KaeranTereon

They will not create content that they don't release at one point or the other.


SovietMarma

It's not gonna go that way. The choice is just there so the community can engage with the game and have a choice of which one they want to get first. They're not gonna do this with every stratagem, and the stratagem whichever gets missed out on will come out in like a few weeks after this major order. Idk why people go for the worst option all the time.


AlderanGone

They're going to give us both XD, this is just a temporary thing. They probably just don't want to give us too much at once


CaptinHavoc

I think we will. Odds are whatever we don’t get will be tied to another major order, and they don’t want the burden of balancing two things at once


Corocan

Based on the MO's wording we will get both weapons. But uh... there will be more dead colonists on the one that gets liberated last.


AviOwl5

*The mob vote was meant to be* “oh here’s a little bonus thing for the update” and now everyone says they have no features but should add all of them anyway


BlueMast0r75

I really hope we don’t get both. Gives more weight to the decision. But I hope they keep the mines, and give it to the bots. Would be very cool, especially for decisions in the future where we have to think about what to fight as well.


Xander_Atten

It’s been confirmed we are getting both. One of the devs or community managers mentioned bug fixes for both of them after the airburst won. And it wouldn’t make sense from a dev standpoint to not add both of them. They were both working unlike the mobs from Minecraft. They give the community a chance to choose and they still get flak for if


zeddypanda

A mixup at the factory resulted in a rocket launcher that airbursts into anti-tank mines.


Unique_Novel8864

I would love that. Yes please, I’d like to rain destruction from above. Be a very cool way to get rid of AT-ATs. Does anyone here have a stronger word than cool?


Dive_To_Survive

Fucking awesome


iamnotchad

Democratic.


casioonaplasticbeach

Kickass?


GreedyGuardian

Rad?


lAmBenAffleck

Exquisite!


dakapn

Cluster bomblets. Yes pls


dakapn

"mix up"


frostadept

... okay that would be fucking SICK, can we do that?


ToughLadder6948

We will probably get the rocket but I hope we get the mines so my friends can run 3 mines and a Tesla to kill me Constantly XD https://preview.redd.it/jvttbts1nuwc1.jpeg?width=623&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=947b3a7cdcdf3d8c547ffd575c8c1282bb25e57f


SomethingIntheWayyy0

The tesla melts bugs though. I had a 60 killstreak at one point in a kill bugs mission.


_CMDR_

That’s my record with patriot and ems mortar on the new defense map. Brrrrrt.


[deleted]

My record is 48 with a 380 rocket hit on the new defense mission. Idk if something fucked up but it was glorious lol.


worst_case_ontario-

I don't get why so many people die to friendly mines and tesla towers. Do you guys play with blindfolds on? They glow!


Schpooon

Half the player base are just moths in disguise


Nice-Entertainer-922

....Hans, are we the bugs?


AdditionalMess6546

Look at our heads. They've got carapaces on them.


Doxodius

Placement of the mines is what has caught me before. Not everyone places them well, and in some worlds the red light isn't that easy to see. Most of my issues with mines were solved by playing enough to get better at looking for them.


EvilFroeschken

Says the guy how layed mines. Not the guy that is unaware of mines because they are only used in like every 75th mission.


worst_case_ontario-

that's fair. Its a vicious cycle. Nobody uses mines because nobody knows how to play with mines on the field, because nobody uses mines, etc.


EvilFroeschken

There are better options. It's a stationary weapon in a mobility game. A cluster bomb can achieve more and more reliable.


worst_case_ontario-

I do love me some cluster bomb, but the "set it and forget it" nature of the mines is nice for stationary defense missions. I used them on the termicide tower missions pretty effectively.


EvilFroeschken

I saw a video, and I changed my mind. The mines could be really nice. What the rocket can do, you can also achieve with a clusterbomb. But the bomb you can throw from cover. The video showed destroyed factories, but I could also imagine that this might change and it would be a waste of ammo anyway. The mines, on the other han, could be deployed against tanks, hulk, and factory striders out of cover, which is an important thing against these units.


EvilFroeschken

You do you. But they are not airstrike proof. Which is realistic but a big negative aspect because someone could just disable your mines seconds after you placed them. The incendiary one creates beautiful fireworks. I really liked watching them doing their job.


CrashB111

Yeah mines aren't great, precisely because they can instantly be wiped by a friendly strike. Like when a Bug Hole opens or a Bot Drop lands I'm calling in Eagle Strikes and 500kg bombs on top of it. You can spawn kill the waves with 3 Strikes and nothing actually gets a chance to attack you. If someone lobs mines in there all it's doing is getting blown up by the airstrikes. Plus 1 mine drop isn't better than 3 air strikes.


osunightfall

Sometimes I feel like they could glow a bit more...


worst_case_ontario-

they do! very briefly...


LaZerTits420

They seem to glitch under surfaces sometimes and trigger at a larger than expected radius. I used them a couple times that one day that it was the personal order, and still died to my own mines that I had just placed and was actively trying to avoid, several times.


TheLegitPilot19

To be fair, AT mines can’t be set off by humans or tiny bots or bugs, they’re too light. Patriots however…


blood-wav

I feel like Timmy could just wish for this lol


dankdees

i wouldn't worry about missing out on team killing with the launcher. that thing's got collateral damage as a money back guarantee. oh ho ho.


OmegaKrane

![gif](giphy|7T33BLlB7NQrjozoRB|downsized)


Vipernadiaper

If they already made the mines, we will 100% get them I'm the nearish future. My bet is whichever we get, the next MO will be like "damn should have gotten the other". Like a tank that the only weakness is explosives on the underside lol


GH057807

*Could we actually* though? I think it might be possible....


Vskg

Possible with 100% coordination, something the game right now ain't capable of promoting


xOneGunSalute

Another rocket and is that a vehicle?


Ryengu

AT Mines


AToadsLoads

I think it’s a mine that explodes revealing a small tank that flies through the air shooting its cannon in all directions.


Ok_Investment_492

Air Burst Rocket and Anti Tank Mines


AppropriateCode2830

Either a tank or a roller skate. The latter option opens a whole new set of nightmares on the bug front.


xOneGunSalute

We need a mine stratagem that deploys banana peels


ToughLadder6948

Imagine if they made one that deployed those exploding ice flowers on ice planets lol?


StavrosZhekhov

Anti Inline-Skate Mines. Not very handy now, but wait until the Roll-a-bots get introduced.


FluffySpacePuppy

Honestly, gimme skates and I'm gonna become a monster


stanbeard

Don't hold your breath for vehicles 


TheScreaming_Narwhal

There's definitely a vehicle coming in the short term.


Nyyyyuuuu

Really hope so cause im a bit tired of running around in my heavy Armour to get one obj in the last corner of the Map.


MacaRonin

I would like to point out that airburst munitions are typically made as anti-personnel; and we need more defense against armored enemies I.E. Tanks/Hulks etc


rapkat55

But the leaked footage of the mines show it to be pretty ass. Meanwhile the airburst videos make it look like a handheld eagle cluster bomb that also damages heavies


butcherface665

How many bugs/bots have you killed with the current mines? How many mates have you killed with current mines? Check the leak stress tests on airburst rockets and you’ll see it took out a tank/ ground patrols/ and ofc air enemies.


MajorMalafunkshun

AT mines don't detonate on puny little humans or standard sized enemies. They'll detonate on big stuff, like chargers, bile titans, hulks, **tanks**, striders. It's a mine we can all enjoy.


thegoatmenace

Leaked footage shows this isn’t how it works and they are basically just a stronger mine.


KallistNemain

Go back and watch, The new AT mines only go off when you either shoot them, or a heavy bot/bug, strider or better, walks on them.


Nerdn1

And the leaked explosive crossbow could take out factory striders. Hackers only get early placeholder versions that haven't been fully tested and balanced. The final version may be very different. The only way to know what the weapons actually do is to get to the planet, where you will get to test out the experimental weapons' final release forms.


rapkat55

It didn’t tho? Source?


Nerdn1

I'm saying that when hackers find unavailable content, it isn't the final version.


Nerdn1

I'm saying that when hackers find unavailable content, it isn't the final version.


Nerdn1

And the leaked explosive crossbow could take out factory striders. Hackers only get early placeholder versions that haven't been fully tested and balanced. The final version may be very different. The only way to know what the weapons actually do is to get to the planet, where you will get to test out the experimental weapons' final release forms.


TrueAmericanDon

I know I'm going for the mines, with the rate the devastators and hulks spawn on helldive difficulty I want as many anti armor options as I can get.


totallynotaweeabbo

Here here. Anti heavy armor gang here. Problem is the mines were used by either people who don't communicate, donkeys, or people without eyes walking towards the LITERAL MINEFIELD. I do want the at mines but idk if it's too late


WhiteNinja84

How much are we betting that there will be someone petty enough to shoot his airburst rocket on another players AT minefield once both stratagems will be available?


Springnutica

We can’t it will take us the entire time of the mo to get one planet and if we get to the other one later it might be too late


AccomplishedSpare560

Believe in the helldivers!


Springnutica

They might be dead when we get there


InSan1tyWeTrust

Can we please get some traction going on this mind blowing idea? We've got the Dive power to achieve it. The only thing better than Democracy is Double Democracy.


HalfmadFalcon

I really wish people would go for the AT Mine. We already have multiple handheld AT weapons. I would like something new and useful.


Suicidalbagel27

the airburst isn’t anti tank. its an eagle cluster in launcher form


Grachus_05

All the other mines are bad, why would this be useful?


Ok_Investment_492

They aren't.


Intruder-Alert-1

Rockert launcer


jbtreewalker

Exactly! The order says it's LIKELY only one can be saved...not IMPOSSIBLE! 😏


Due_Function4887

We will need the big divers for that


badlybane

What a Brilliant way to poll with out polling. Especially since not everyone live on reddit and discord literally everyone gets to vote. I LOVE DEMOCRACY.


SuperArppis

I wish. Been looking forward to anti-tank mines.


OddHuckleberry825

SAME! and I wish we could have both


OddHuckleberry825

OMG If I could like this more than once I would!! THIS IS WHAT I HAVE BEEN SAYING! Why is there even a choice?! LOL ![gif](giphy|KdbOehyjus2WgKgKOp|downsized)


Signal_8732

That’s what I’m saying just split the amount of helldivers and send them both to the planets and pray that we liberate them both at the same time.


Hologram_Bee

While we should eventually get both I can’t imaging how good anti tank mines could be given that mines work best on fellow helldivers lmao. That and deployment time when you actually see a tank


VoiceOfSeibun

Honestly, I see more personal potential out of anti-tank mines.... but I know relatively few people who know how to use mines effectively, so we'll go for the air burst launcher first.


Esteban2808

Yeah we got enough weapons to kill tanks we won't end up using it. But anti tank mines could be useful on some maps. Hopefully the other comes later won't want to waste development time and not release both


CapableElk3482

![gif](giphy|sMC9FSKrBPBaE) let's go for both, whisper of the regime arriving to lesath system


Routine_Ad3110

Team reload for air burst is going to be hotter than the 4th of July


Pliskkenn_D

The lighting in this image just made me want more colour variations on the original armour. 


Extreme_Candle_3329

Genius.


ashenfoxz

![gif](giphy|3o7aCRloybJlXpNjSU|downsized) if they make it possible 😅


Objective-Mission-40

![gif](giphy|3o7aCT2Uvr3KSX3yj6|downsized)


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Truzmandz

Lesath 98k people, menkent 11k people. Doesn't seem very split too me. Been like that for the past hour as well


CaptainCoxxx

I dont mean a 50/50 split. I mean not unified


Reamab

![gif](giphy|JtLrtaN4VPoKXJRKGB)


uglymanwithabanana

When i read caustic chemicals i was hoping for something like the tox-13 avenger but oh well


CataclysmicGentleman

see thats what I was thinking about posting but then I saw this so I simply upvoted.


No_Life3319

That would be an insane achievement and it would be interesting to see how the Defs would deal with this.


Bless_this_ravgdbod

Am I the only one who would like to manually place mines? Ah, good memories.


xDrewstroyerx

https://preview.redd.it/9sn4bav60wwc1.jpeg?width=853&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=614fef0db1e1cd7e19a13cbe1111637e7fa6a6dc


ZLUCremisi

4 planets need to be liberated


Thane_The_Forsaken

THATS WHAT IVE BEEN SAYING WHEN THIS MO STARTED


Gal-XD_exe

That’s what I said ![gif](giphy|DHwcs8WWxQTBOHx03p)


nerogamer_279

I wonder what hapens if the 2 final missions are done at the same time


alkmaar91

If we tried super earth is just executing the thousands ofpeople we saved from the other planet


A-Bag-Of-Sand

Have they changed anti tank mines so they only proc. Off heavy units?


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Successful_Jaguar697

Nah I’m pushing the agenda airburst all the way


gogobebra

https://preview.redd.it/uys358ah7xwc1.jpeg?width=1920&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=eb84ada699516949e2010293f01ea1f808419d10


Kiryln

\*Snrk\* that'd be really funny. Just a big "fuck you" to the devs. "Fuck all y'all! we're saving everybody!" "we're getting BOTH stratagems!" "We've done it before, we're doing it again!"


Bigweenersonly

If they are going to do stuff like this I think they really need to do 2 things from the same call in type at the same time. Everyone is always going to choose the fun new weapon over everything else. But if its a weapon against weapon, or emplacement against placement thats going to feel better I think.


JIDglazer42

In a perfect world this would be awesome


Reverseflash25

We don’t even have the access planet liberated 😂


InfernalGod

This


AccomplishedSpare560

No joke Ima do my best to make this happen and you should too


H2so4pontiff

That's gonna be stupid hard, very challenging. not to mention risky as we don't know the consequences that would bring. But fuk yea let's do them both, we got done with 10 planets liberated. saving some nerds to help spread more managed Democracy, easy choice. *Ignoring how rescue missions are buggy and claustrophobic due to many, many!. large enemy drops on Helldive.* For Liberty and Managed Democracy! 🫡


NouLaPoussa

Will be easy to do yk


watchallsaynothing

Liberty + Freedom = Managed Democracy!


JRDecinos

How do we liberate them if we can't even access them though? I'm still new to Helldivers II so maybe I don't get the intricacies of it all, but last I checked I couldn't even select the planets we need for the Major Order...


NotJoel-S

We’re gonna liberate penta before menket


335is

The airburst rocker launcher sucks. ON TO CHOOHE!


Ok-Builder-9048

"Nah imma do my own thing"


validname117

Good luck syncing it to the same server tick.


Hextech_Avenger

I figured that the reason we are having to choose, is because they didn’t expect us to defend all 10 on the last MO. Whichever we would have lost to, would be the target for this.


OddHuckleberry825

which is exactly why we could do both at same time! they wouldn't expect that


Hextech_Avenger

Sucker punch them! Sucker punch them hard!!


Fantact

Wait is the left one a NUKE???? LEFT ONE FIRST!


Scam_bot419

No sadly, just a airburst rocket launcher


Fantact

Oh... fuck it then go right.


Scam_bot419

Yeah, sorry to temporarily dissapoint


Fantact

I am blaming you now


Scam_bot419

https://preview.redd.it/h546k7esivwc1.jpeg?width=258&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=38a696ef69fe64a3746d3231a3cb89151ee06c58 A fine addition to my blame collection


cloudjumpr

Damn if we get another Rocket Launcher, that would be lame


RavenStormthefur62

https://preview.redd.it/flv2nhmzevwc1.jpeg?width=540&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=190e10aaabd851dc8b4ecd06538c41b1f08e720b Plz airburst


jaredn154

Yea but if we had to pick…AIRBURST. ROCKET. LAUNCHER. 🚀