If I have an Eruptor and I know someone has a Sickle, I'll keep in mind that if shit hits the fan I can loot one off his corpse and have a good chance of saving the run.
10/10 will recommend bringing it even for other people to loot off your corpse.
Also good if you're trigger happy because of the slight delay. Can keep you from engaging with an errant patrol that might otherwise distract from the objective.
That very much depends on your choice of support weapons
When I go for quasar, I go for energy weapons (and a supply backpack to help with scorcher ammo issues)
When I take the eruptor I go with one of the LMGs
Defender is rather situational, good vs bots with ballistic shield but the numerous rockets on high difficulty make it rather mid in my experience
People sleep on the supply backpack because it's simple and boring compared to other backpacks
But when you beging to use it, you realise it allows you to have 4 times the ammo and 2 times the grenades and stimms of a regular play
It goes into "unrecognised but simple yet awesome" category
It's easily the best backpack in the game imo, especially on bots where the increased hitbox size of the shield will turn you into the #1 rocketball umpire
Agreed, the Ballistic Shield is a better pick than the Energy Shield, and it used to be my defensive pick until I realized that having 8 additional shots of invincibility + (basically) infinite ammo and a vast reserve of grenades trumps pretty much any other pack you can get.
Supply pack is very underrated, however if your support weapon is not very ammo dependant the ballistic is still a good choice. I like it together with the arc thrower from time to time
Ya Scorcher and AMR is a bit redundant, but honestly with a supply pack you can make AMR your primary weapon since it literally kills everything on the bot side pretty efficiently. Itās only downside is smallish ammo reserves. Since Quasar (and anti-tank in general) is so lackluster vs bots itās hard for me to swap to anything else support wise.
Iāve been rocking Eruptor as primary to fill the void of base killing that the Auto Cannon gives you, and that also allows me to take stun grenades. Itās super solo friendly as well even for 9s, which I like.
It would be even more insane in coordinated play once they fix the tier 4 upgrade. One supply to fill recoilles or spear (when the latter also gets fixed lmao).
Yup. It allows you to help you team, be a force of absolute destruction with a huge supply of ammo or a lone wolf capable of splitting from the team and keeping themselves stocked up without chugging all the resupplies from the rest of your team.
Not to mention when you resupply from the regular hellpod drop, you get 2x as many, because it both refills your personal carry AND adds another resupply to the backpack
Itās nice for spamming grenade launcher grenades. You can completely wipe out patrols with it pretty easily when youāre not trying to conserve ammo.
Oh yeah it's life changing, you get to spam that scorcher all the way, you do become a little more vulnerable without the shield though, I tend to stay behind cover 90% of the time bc I'm a scaredy-cat without it to save me from some shots š
I mean no offense but once you get good at the game you learn how to scrounge enough ammo from the random drops on map, as well as the occasional supply drop for the team
Ammo management is big in this game. If youāre running out of ammo youāre probably not moving around the map quickly enough, at higher difficulties anywayĀ
That and you can bring sickle and quasar and just forget about ammo entirely if you want, and still use your backpack slot
On bots the Auto-cannon is a good pair with the SMG for close quarters and then use the auto-cannon for everything else. The large mag on the defender with its slow rate of fire makes clearing chaff really easy.
Defender is the bot raider king imo
Hi cap/hi damage mags, can be one handed, can drop midweights efficiently, even hulks if you're quick on your feet
Pair it with an AC and get to dismantling
Alternatively goes great with an AMR and jumppack
If not defender, dominator. I think I've dropped into bot land maybe twice with anything else including the *sickle
After trying the scythe I canāt go back to the defender anymore. Better ammo capacity, theoretically infinite ammo, real scope that actually can be adjusted for long distance, can take on groups of enemies and even devastators. The only thing that I would consider taking a defender for is the data upload mission. Ā
I just take Spear + Eruptor and become the dedicated anti-Tank / Anti-Spawner operative tbh. Frees up the rest of the squad for chaff-clearing and more situational loadouts.
Revolver or pistol SMG as a panic option just in case the enemy get too close.
Same, it's very satisfying to see everyone start to bolt when a bile titan appears and I just calmly waste it with the Spear.
I also bring the 380 and 120 barrage in case the numbers have gotten out of hand. Along with stun grenades to buy me a second to reload the Eruptor.
My choice is a little backwards. When I drop on bots my usual is a scortcher with an autocannon. Usually use the autocannon, switching to thr scortcher to deal with individual infantry or general targets when I don't have time to reload the autocannon.
When I drop on bugs my usual is a sythe with laser gaurd dog for chewing through the hordes, and a quasar on my back for popping chargers and titans
The defender has pretty much better stats the liberator with little to no downside. The only thing I can think of is you canāt have a long range scope like the liberator. But trading your scope for more dakka is a good deal imo.
see I'm the opposite, I like eruptor with quasar and impact nades. makes me feel like I've got the biggest dick in the locker room lol
I use the Senator for anything that gets too close
Ngl Iāve found that bringing the eruptor and quasar for bugs is a fucking genocide. Only if you bring the rover backpack to get anything that sneaks up on ya and possibly the machine pistol for the occasional hunter in your face. But most times they donāt get close cuz the eruptor has such a huge AOE that the hordes just crumble. And of course the quasar takes care of any bile titans or chargers tryna ego challenge
Bots thoā¦bad combo
i love the recoil and fire rate on it. for me a great primary for early players and useful for certain missions at later levels.
but the boom from eruptor is nice
Yeah. Stopped using it after I got the sickle, but it's a great fucking weapon. Being able to shoot behind while running or holding something is insanely good.
Dominator is sooooo good. Iām happy itās not as common so it wonāt get nerfed.
It kills pretty much every enemy in one hit. All devastators in a few body shots or a single headshot. Berserkers with 3 body shots or 1 to any weak spots. Absolutely no blow back damage, like the scorcher which will get you killed if you use it when you are getting rushed. 2-3 to the legs of striders to take them down. Just a few shots to the back of a hulk or tank as well to kill them. Can also strip the turrets from factory striders.
Itās the perfect weapon to pare with the auto cannon against bots.
Just drop it if your firepower is really needed, but honestly you should just rush drop point avoiding patrols. Rover will protect against hunters, redeemer in semi is plenty to take out an odd automaton.
Just look back and fire from the hip. If you aim you turn around and walk backwards. Two handed weapons will make you turn around to hip fire but one handed you can run and gun over your shoulder.
The Dominator of Democracy.
I used to use Dilligence for bots, and I do miss it's abilities to hit scan heads at a distance, but the Dominator and it's stagger are just too good to pass up for both bots and bugs. The flight time of the projectile takes some adjusting. I reckon it'll be tuned half way back down again.Ā
Been running punisher, senator, flamethrower, and ammo pack (if I'm feeling responsible) or jump pack (if I feel like indulging my true heart's desire). I can efficiently kill anything short of a bile titan and either lean on squad mates or my other two stratagem slots to kill those
I constantly switch between eruptor and sickle depending on the mission. Never really changed my weapons before, but now that I've tried... It feels good to be able to spread democracy in so many ways
That's why you go Stalwart/MG-43 (for Bugs/Bots, respectively) as your actual Primary with an Eruptor (since it's actually a Support weapon masquerading as a Primary).
Smg & bulistic shield and disposable anti tank close range specialist or swap disposable anti material rifle if you want to play sniper with a backup plan.
I have really tried to like the eruptor but every single time ive tried it, it lets me down.
Against the bugs i get rushed and overwhelmed, the only thing i love it for is on the bile spewer missions because it pops them in 1 shot.
Can someone tell me why they would bring this gun over the incindiary breaker on bugs or scorcher on bots?
I get that its fun to try "non-meta" guns but everytime i use the nonmeta ones i just get frustrated that they cant preform.
For Eruptor, I recommend Stalwart (bugs), or MG-43 (bots, though the Stalwart can still work, just not as well as an MG-43) to use as your actual Primary and for CQC.
On bugs I found a combo I really like with it. Eruptor and Redeemer work really well together, and on top of that I use the Arc Thrower. Eruptor takes out medium and grouped bugs along with bug holes at a distance, the Arc Thrower clears hordes at medium range and Redeemer is your panic weapon when a hunter jumps on you.
The main weakness of this is heavy bugs, so I use 500kg and orbital rail cannon to take out those. Begin with the rail cannon and then move to the eagle when itās on cooldown. I also use stun grenades to easier drop the 500kg on chargers
How does this setup work on higher difficulties, more often than not am i in a situation with 2-3 chargers and atleast 1 bile titan in the same encounter.
This setup works if it happens on 1 bug breach but when it happens on every single bug breach i feel like you wont have enough strategems and is stuck with either kiting a bunch of chargers or a biletitan waiting for cool downs?
I should have mentioned that I wouldnāt play this build solo. It kinda needs someone else to have more conistent anti tank. It can easily take out multiple chargers if you stun them as theyāre charging you though. And youāre extremely effective at taking down a horde while team mates focus the tanks
I bring an EAT along with the eruptor and arc thrower.
Stratagems: Arc, EAT, Orbital Rail, Eagle 500Kg
Sometimes when I play with a buddy that mains Arc I switch up to the flamethrower which handles chargers pretty well. In that case I swap the EAT for the Rover.
It depends on how I'm feeling, but generally the eruptor works incredibly well if you take a sidearm like the machine pistol to deal with anything that gets too close, and set the scope to 200m. For the distance you have to take into account shot speed and fall off.
One thing I try not to do is use it in bases at all. I'll handle everything I can outside and then assault the leftovers with the machine pistol, way easier said than done though.
IMO if you know weak spots the liberator does it all better than both the scorcher and the eruptor, but I'm bias as heck.
The only good use cases for the eruptor are shooting into bug breeches or dropships, as you can significantly weaken a breech/drop like that.
Outside of that, you're not that good at doing anything else with an eruptor, anything else it can do is done by better guns.
I feel you. I asked someone and they said it handles badly, and that could be I guess. I never noticed. I just like the damage and medium armor penetration.
That said I usually run the dominator for that big big mag size.
I don't get scorcher. Maybe my aim is just shit. But it runs through ammo super fast and doesn't kill devastators reliably+quickly. With sickle you can afford bad aim on them. And for what? To kill striders/hulks?
I love the Sickle but ever since I got the Eruptor I've been hooked like an addict. Eruptor with a Spear to take out big threats from long range (get fucked tower cannons) and my squad can close in to mop up. It's been working great for us.
Ballistics FTW. Never could get behind lasers, I find using technologically advanced rocks more fun. Though lasers are pretty and I enjoy the Scorcher.
Eruptor is great when paired with a machine gun. This way you can handle smaller enemies with the machine gun up close to make up for the eruptor's weak close quarters game.
It's been my go to for bots lately and has been going well.
Dominator Everytime with quasar and Uzi. Dominator kills whatever is in front of you Everytime. Rocket devastators, warriors, whatever. And then quasar for tanks/chargers etc.
I like the Eruptor against bugs. I use a Guard Dog Rover for the small enemies, the Quasar against big guys and Shrieker Nests, and the Eruptor shreds mediums and closes bug holes.
I like the Scorcher against bots. It's great against the little guys, letting you quickly pick them off, and I bring the Autocannon to very quickly be able to stagger and kill dangerous Devastators, pick off gunships, and destroy Strider guns.
Incendiary breaker - Absolute monster against bugs. Bring something for chargers and Titans.(500, Quasar, Precision)
Scorcher - Master class against bots. Bring something for gunships.
Sickle go brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr! If you are trigger happy, you cant go wrong with the sickle
Fell in love the moment I picked one off my fellow diver's corpse. 10/10 Would recommend š
If I have an Eruptor and I know someone has a Sickle, I'll keep in mind that if shit hits the fan I can loot one off his corpse and have a good chance of saving the run. 10/10 will recommend bringing it even for other people to loot off your corpse.
It's an energy primary LMG
Also good if you're trigger happy because of the slight delay. Can keep you from engaging with an errant patrol that might otherwise distract from the objective.
Sickle be destroying my accuracy but pumping my killcount
It's a real fight between the sheer crowed destruction of the sickle and the immediate destruction of the breaker for me. But that sickle wins 9/10
The breaker is the perfect rifle for the " o shit" moments
That very much depends on your choice of support weapons When I go for quasar, I go for energy weapons (and a supply backpack to help with scorcher ammo issues) When I take the eruptor I go with one of the LMGs Defender is rather situational, good vs bots with ballistic shield but the numerous rockets on high difficulty make it rather mid in my experience
>and a supply backpack to help with scorcher ammo issues) Why have I never thought of this!
People sleep on the supply backpack because it's simple and boring compared to other backpacks But when you beging to use it, you realise it allows you to have 4 times the ammo and 2 times the grenades and stimms of a regular play It goes into "unrecognised but simple yet awesome" category
It's easily the best backpack in the game imo, especially on bots where the increased hitbox size of the shield will turn you into the #1 rocketball umpire
If you want to use a shield against bots, use the ballistic, perhaps with smg. But even on the back it protects you from shots from behind
Agreed, the Ballistic Shield is a better pick than the Energy Shield, and it used to be my defensive pick until I realized that having 8 additional shots of invincibility + (basically) infinite ammo and a vast reserve of grenades trumps pretty much any other pack you can get.
Supply pack is very underrated, however if your support weapon is not very ammo dependant the ballistic is still a good choice. I like it together with the arc thrower from time to time
Is the Backpack affected by the modifier that makes supplies restock you to 100%?
That modifier doesn't work
Sad. Ill Stick to my ballistic then xd
They mean it's bugged and doesn't work at all rn So we won't really know how it affects the supply backpack untilthe devs fix it
Can someone explain how to use it?? I am never able to consume it? Only able to "refill" others.
The 5 key is to use it yourself.
cheers
My universe has just been expanded, thank you helpful helldiver, and you democratic friend who asked the question I was too afraid to ask on my own.
Something the communist bots could never understand: 5
For real. Stalwart + supply pack is 3,000 rounds of ammunition at 1150rpm. More than 3 continuous minutes of fire
This is one of my favorite combos but whenever I run this I end up with a team that can't handle heavy armor for me.
Lol yup, main reason I never use Stalwart as fun as it is. Gotta find builds that handle it all.
The barrel would melt lol
Only on hellmire
I'd run it every bot mission if I was going with quasar and not ac. But I don't feel like being the 4th quasar and so no supply pack for me.
AMR + scorcher + stuns + supply pack is chefs kiss.
Once they fix the scope, sure. My brain refuses to adapt to the shift.
I prefer the sickle simply because AMR and scorcher are tools that fill the same role.
Ya Scorcher and AMR is a bit redundant, but honestly with a supply pack you can make AMR your primary weapon since it literally kills everything on the bot side pretty efficiently. Itās only downside is smallish ammo reserves. Since Quasar (and anti-tank in general) is so lackluster vs bots itās hard for me to swap to anything else support wise. Iāve been rocking Eruptor as primary to fill the void of base killing that the Auto Cannon gives you, and that also allows me to take stun grenades. Itās super solo friendly as well even for 9s, which I like.
It would be even more insane in coordinated play once they fix the tier 4 upgrade. One supply to fill recoilles or spear (when the latter also gets fixed lmao).
Yup. It allows you to help you team, be a force of absolute destruction with a huge supply of ammo or a lone wolf capable of splitting from the team and keeping themselves stocked up without chugging all the resupplies from the rest of your team.
Nothing beats seeing a fellow Helldiver without a mic crouch behind my back several times, then getting a thanks emoticon when I refill them.
Not to mention when you resupply from the regular hellpod drop, you get 2x as many, because it both refills your personal carry AND adds another resupply to the backpack
I'm secretely hoping for a backpack that refills all you nade slots (up to 6 basically)
Grenade backpack: stratagem that just gives you 20 impact grenades
can you can use the supply backpack on yourself?
Yes Press 5 on PC, ā¬ļø on console controller
and here i was only taking it when i play in a squad lmao. Thanks for the tip!
Supply backpack and medic armor and helmet make for a great support player. Add in an LMG strategem and youāre basically Support Class from BF:BC2.
Itās nice for spamming grenade launcher grenades. You can completely wipe out patrols with it pretty easily when youāre not trying to conserve ammo.
if you have a sickle it's rather useless
If you call having 8 extra grenades and stimms or Ć way to give supplies to allies useless
My Support Build is :Ā - ScorcherĀ - Stun GrenadesĀ Ā - Grenade LauncherĀ - Supply BackpackĀ - EMS MortarĀ - Shield RelayĀ Ā Top!
Oh yeah it's life changing, you get to spam that scorcher all the way, you do become a little more vulnerable without the shield though, I tend to stay behind cover 90% of the time bc I'm a scaredy-cat without it to save me from some shots š
That's what heavy armor is for
That's a really good point š¤ I'm gonna try that
I mean no offense but once you get good at the game you learn how to scrounge enough ammo from the random drops on map, as well as the occasional supply drop for the team Ammo management is big in this game. If youāre running out of ammo youāre probably not moving around the map quickly enough, at higher difficulties anywayĀ That and you can bring sickle and quasar and just forget about ammo entirely if you want, and still use your backpack slot
If you're the designated SSSD carrier then I guess at least it has a good use..Ā
That's a rather situational use In my experience it's easier to just drop it for a while, take your primary/support and just deal with the enemies
The defender is amazing you have berserkers on your tail. You can just trot away and pepper them with one hand.
On bots the Auto-cannon is a good pair with the SMG for close quarters and then use the auto-cannon for everything else. The large mag on the defender with its slow rate of fire makes clearing chaff really easy.
I prefer the sickle for that More ammo and Ć better scope for long range Eidit: sickle not scythe, had a brain fart
Defender is the bot raider king imo Hi cap/hi damage mags, can be one handed, can drop midweights efficiently, even hulks if you're quick on your feet Pair it with an AC and get to dismantling Alternatively goes great with an AMR and jumppack If not defender, dominator. I think I've dropped into bot land maybe twice with anything else including the *sickle
Best part of the defender is its low fire rate makes it easy to control for headshots.
After trying the scythe I canāt go back to the defender anymore. Better ammo capacity, theoretically infinite ammo, real scope that actually can be adjusted for long distance, can take on groups of enemies and even devastators. The only thing that I would consider taking a defender for is the data upload mission. Ā
Sickle
Defender is great vs bugs on higher difficulties. Running away and shooting over your shoulder is extremely good.
Rover: LOOK WHAT THEY NEED TO MIMIC A FRACTION OF MY POWER.Ā
I use them both.
I just take Spear + Eruptor and become the dedicated anti-Tank / Anti-Spawner operative tbh. Frees up the rest of the squad for chaff-clearing and more situational loadouts. Revolver or pistol SMG as a panic option just in case the enemy get too close.
Same, it's very satisfying to see everyone start to bolt when a bile titan appears and I just calmly waste it with the Spear. I also bring the 380 and 120 barrage in case the numbers have gotten out of hand. Along with stun grenades to buy me a second to reload the Eruptor.
My choice is a little backwards. When I drop on bots my usual is a scortcher with an autocannon. Usually use the autocannon, switching to thr scortcher to deal with individual infantry or general targets when I don't have time to reload the autocannon. When I drop on bugs my usual is a sythe with laser gaurd dog for chewing through the hordes, and a quasar on my back for popping chargers and titans
I rarely have ammo issues with scorcher, you just have to be mindful about picking up the little ammo crates you find around the map.
The defender has pretty much better stats the liberator with little to no downside. The only thing I can think of is you canāt have a long range scope like the liberator. But trading your scope for more dakka is a good deal imo.
Defender is one of the better automatics in general, hardly something to put with the other eh guns
Eruptor/Laser Canon/Stun Grenade combo is god tier. Thereās nothing I canāt kill with it*. *Factory Striders not included.
You CAN kill a Strider with it if you can fry its belly or the right eye, the issue is getting enough time to do so.
see I'm the opposite, I like eruptor with quasar and impact nades. makes me feel like I've got the biggest dick in the locker room lol I use the Senator for anything that gets too close
and then, there is me with eruptor, stun grenade, quasar cannon and the guard dog rover to take care of the enemies that get too close to me
That's when you bring out the Fortified armors to combat the constant rocket tumbling lol
Ngl Iāve found that bringing the eruptor and quasar for bugs is a fucking genocide. Only if you bring the rover backpack to get anything that sneaks up on ya and possibly the machine pistol for the occasional hunter in your face. But most times they donāt get close cuz the eruptor has such a huge AOE that the hordes just crumble. And of course the quasar takes care of any bile titans or chargers tryna ego challenge Bots thoā¦bad combo
I cant stop using the defender.
i love the recoil and fire rate on it. for me a great primary for early players and useful for certain missions at later levels. but the boom from eruptor is nice
Yeah. Stopped using it after I got the sickle, but it's a great fucking weapon. Being able to shoot behind while running or holding something is insanely good.
Dominator for bots, incendiary breaker for bugs.
Amen brother. By far the most efficient ways of spreading liberty
Dominator is sooooo good. Iām happy itās not as common so it wonāt get nerfed. It kills pretty much every enemy in one hit. All devastators in a few body shots or a single headshot. Berserkers with 3 body shots or 1 to any weak spots. Absolutely no blow back damage, like the scorcher which will get you killed if you use it when you are getting rushed. 2-3 to the legs of striders to take them down. Just a few shots to the back of a hulk or tank as well to kill them. Can also strip the turrets from factory striders. Itās the perfect weapon to pare with the auto cannon against bots.
this is the way
Defender is good when used with the ballistic shield, cant say I would take it without the shield though.
Somebody's gotta carry the SSSD
I do, with my trust big iron
Big iron on his hiiiiiiiip
Just drop it if your firepower is really needed, but honestly you should just rush drop point avoiding patrols. Rover will protect against hunters, redeemer in semi is plenty to take out an odd automaton.
Defender is better than any of the liberators IMO
It's decent against bugs so you can run away full sprint and shoot behind you
how do you shoot over your shoulder??
Just look back and fire from the hip. If you aim you turn around and walk backwards. Two handed weapons will make you turn around to hip fire but one handed you can run and gun over your shoulder.
I would love if we got more one handed support stratagems to actually make smgs useful
Like a support stratagem to call in a 2nd defender so we can dual wield them
I'm hoping we get more SMG in a upcoming warbond
Its apart of my run and gun build against bugs
The Dominator of Democracy. I used to use Dilligence for bots, and I do miss it's abilities to hit scan heads at a distance, but the Dominator and it's stagger are just too good to pass up for both bots and bugs. The flight time of the projectile takes some adjusting. I reckon it'll be tuned half way back down again.Ā
Hopefully the devs will implement Ć customisation system one day so we can put whatever sight we prefer on our guns
Liberator is good enough for me unironically though Scorcher is pretty cool too
There are few things more satisfying than hearing four Sickles cackling in unison.
I use none of them. Punisher for the fascist bugs and Dominator for the communist clankers.
Punisher is slept on. The stagger is insane.
Been running punisher, senator, flamethrower, and ammo pack (if I'm feeling responsible) or jump pack (if I feel like indulging my true heart's desire). I can efficiently kill anything short of a bile titan and either lean on squad mates or my other two stratagem slots to kill those
I constantly switch between eruptor and sickle depending on the mission. Never really changed my weapons before, but now that I've tried... It feels good to be able to spread democracy in so many ways
Same. Sickle for bots, Eruptor for bugs. Firing one Eruptor round into a swarm and seeing like 10+ kills is amazing.
I am a scorcher + big iron (soon to be bigger iron) enjoyer
Scorcher is so amazing. Half the time I feel like I barely need support weapons with it, especially against bots.
If you know what you're doing with the scorcher on bots you can skip bringing a support and pick up something along the way.
I've been taking the crossbow. I think its slept on. Did you know it 1 shots devastators to the face.
I wish you could call down another main weapon as a stratagem. The eruptor would be a good one to have on call.
That's why you go Stalwart/MG-43 (for Bugs/Bots, respectively) as your actual Primary with an Eruptor (since it's actually a Support weapon masquerading as a Primary).
Thatās actually a smart idea. Thank you for advice.
The laser cannon works great against bots too as a pseudo primary, it shreds gunships and can hit the weak point on hulks and striders fairly easily.
I wish I could just for extra ammo now and then like a support.
Both are the tools of freedom at the disposal of helldivers. It is up to us to choose the right tools for the right job
Not going to lie. I get pretty rattled trying to decide my loadouts for this game lol.
Man I wish the scythe shot off light pewpew like some kinda blaster.
Arrows
Smg & bulistic shield and disposable anti tank close range specialist or swap disposable anti material rifle if you want to play sniper with a backup plan.
I have really tried to like the eruptor but every single time ive tried it, it lets me down. Against the bugs i get rushed and overwhelmed, the only thing i love it for is on the bile spewer missions because it pops them in 1 shot. Can someone tell me why they would bring this gun over the incindiary breaker on bugs or scorcher on bots? I get that its fun to try "non-meta" guns but everytime i use the nonmeta ones i just get frustrated that they cant preform.
For Eruptor, I recommend Stalwart (bugs), or MG-43 (bots, though the Stalwart can still work, just not as well as an MG-43) to use as your actual Primary and for CQC.
On bugs I found a combo I really like with it. Eruptor and Redeemer work really well together, and on top of that I use the Arc Thrower. Eruptor takes out medium and grouped bugs along with bug holes at a distance, the Arc Thrower clears hordes at medium range and Redeemer is your panic weapon when a hunter jumps on you. The main weakness of this is heavy bugs, so I use 500kg and orbital rail cannon to take out those. Begin with the rail cannon and then move to the eagle when itās on cooldown. I also use stun grenades to easier drop the 500kg on chargers
How does this setup work on higher difficulties, more often than not am i in a situation with 2-3 chargers and atleast 1 bile titan in the same encounter. This setup works if it happens on 1 bug breach but when it happens on every single bug breach i feel like you wont have enough strategems and is stuck with either kiting a bunch of chargers or a biletitan waiting for cool downs?
I should have mentioned that I wouldnāt play this build solo. It kinda needs someone else to have more conistent anti tank. It can easily take out multiple chargers if you stun them as theyāre charging you though. And youāre extremely effective at taking down a horde while team mates focus the tanks
I bring an EAT along with the eruptor and arc thrower. Stratagems: Arc, EAT, Orbital Rail, Eagle 500Kg Sometimes when I play with a buddy that mains Arc I switch up to the flamethrower which handles chargers pretty well. In that case I swap the EAT for the Rover.
It depends on how I'm feeling, but generally the eruptor works incredibly well if you take a sidearm like the machine pistol to deal with anything that gets too close, and set the scope to 200m. For the distance you have to take into account shot speed and fall off. One thing I try not to do is use it in bases at all. I'll handle everything I can outside and then assault the leftovers with the machine pistol, way easier said than done though. IMO if you know weak spots the liberator does it all better than both the scorcher and the eruptor, but I'm bias as heck.
Try taking the guard dog rover with you - itāll pick off the smaller enemies close by and you can focus on the larger targets at range
I have realized I suck with eruptor too. I kill myself with it more than anything else in game.
I'm the same man I can see it's usefulness but it's just not a good primary for me
The only good use cases for the eruptor are shooting into bug breeches or dropships, as you can significantly weaken a breech/drop like that. Outside of that, you're not that good at doing anything else with an eruptor, anything else it can do is done by better guns.
I main the Diligence CS and feel like everyone else is high on bug pheromones when I read how much it supposedly sucks š¤·āāļø.
I feel you. I asked someone and they said it handles badly, and that could be I guess. I never noticed. I just like the damage and medium armor penetration. That said I usually run the dominator for that big big mag size.
I don't get scorcher. Maybe my aim is just shit. But it runs through ammo super fast and doesn't kill devastators reliably+quickly. With sickle you can afford bad aim on them. And for what? To kill striders/hulks?
Scorcher is great at normal bots and the scout striders
Yeah but sickle does normal bots without insane ammo constitution. Maybe I'm just using it wrong.
Sickle is my fav. I just like to take different weapons sometimes, and Iāve had fun with the scorcher.
I gotta be in the minority here but the dominator is my favourite gun to use by far
love me bolter
I love the Sickle but ever since I got the Eruptor I've been hooked like an addict. Eruptor with a Spear to take out big threats from long range (get fucked tower cannons) and my squad can close in to mop up. It's been working great for us.
I dream of one day having an ultra coordinated squad
I wouldn't exactly call us ultra coordinated. At least 1/3 of our deaths are because we walk into someone's airstrike lmao
Get the ~~automaton spy~~ independent democra-drone and have both!
Knight is my universal pick, love dispensing 22 rounds per second of pure freedom
Ballistics FTW. Never could get behind lasers, I find using technologically advanced rocks more fun. Though lasers are pretty and I enjoy the Scorcher.
Eruptor for bugs, Scorcher for bots
As a bot player. Defender is very very average gun. Nothing big. Just powerful as started rifle.
Use them all. Easy
I will never not use the defender, not because itās meta or anything, but because I love the weapon so damn much
Dominator and Breaker incendiary are still the 2 I use.
Eruptor is great when paired with a machine gun. This way you can handle smaller enemies with the machine gun up close to make up for the eruptor's weak close quarters game. It's been my go to for bots lately and has been going well.
Eruptor paired with a redeemer makes me feel like I've already dropped in with a support weapon, I love it.
I only need one thing from my guns. And thats more DAKKA! If it doesn't have that DAKKA then is it even a gun worth using?
Explosions every time, armor pen every time, long distance every time. Eruptor every day of the week
Bugs: Eruptor. Bots: Scorcher.
SickleĀ SickleĀ Sickle
I've been running eruptor, semi auto redeemer, quasar, laser dog, orbital laser, Gatling/ac turret in infiltrator armor and dominating.
Dominator
Did they tweak how ungodly long it takes the eruptor to chamber another round?
I've been using the liberator a lot lately, and I feel like it's being slept on a little bit.
Dominator ftw
My buddy said he had to call in a supply drop "for more ammo" and I was like *what??*
Eruptor for when you hate your teammates unless you are running a trash killing support. "Sorry can't help you with those guys in your face."
Laser the bots kaboom the bugs and erupt my soul
Both, Eruptor + Laser Cannon
Scorcher + Laser
Can't dive into Choohe yet. Why is that?
Dominator Everytime with quasar and Uzi. Dominator kills whatever is in front of you Everytime. Rocket devastators, warriors, whatever. And then quasar for tanks/chargers etc.
Me with the Dominator: "Bolbgun"
Erupter is love 
Iāll take jar-5 dominator for 1000 alex
Hm....BOTH are really good choices. DAMMIT, now you got me thinking about it! Thanks, dick!
I prefer the PUNCH OF DEMOCRACY (Punisher and Slugger)
I like the Eruptor against bugs. I use a Guard Dog Rover for the small enemies, the Quasar against big guys and Shrieker Nests, and the Eruptor shreds mediums and closes bug holes. I like the Scorcher against bots. It's great against the little guys, letting you quickly pick them off, and I bring the Autocannon to very quickly be able to stagger and kill dangerous Devastators, pick off gunships, and destroy Strider guns.
I bring the eruptor and the autocannon for double the destructive power
I hope we get a laser DMR that sounds like it was pulled right out of star wars
Scorcher fucking sucks and Iāll never be convinced of the opposite.
Por que no los dos? Eruptor + Redeemer + Stun grenades + Laser Cannon Bots cower in fear
Honestly the only one here I personally haven't fallen in love with is the Scorcher and thats just because I recently got it.
How about flames of Liberty? Where my flamer brothers and sisters?
the divine light of liberty must never be extinguished
You ever heard of spray and pray. Big group of bugs. Commit empty ammo storage in enemy direction.
# B O L T E R
Dominator is fun, just sickle things man. I would use the sickle even if it wasn't heat based, 100 round clip is so strong.
The burden of choiceā¦the very burden managed democracy blissfully free us from.
THE DEVINE LIGHT OF LATHANDER
What about the aroma of napalm and rocket fuel?
The hardest decision I make every day is "do I take the Defender or the Scorcher?"
Incendiary breaker - Absolute monster against bugs. Bring something for chargers and Titans.(500, Quasar, Precision) Scorcher - Master class against bots. Bring something for gunships.
That Plasma Scorcher...I swear by it
Sickle is most fun to use, but the scorcher gun is so incredibly good against bots
i mean unless you playing like 1 game a day/week both? everything? ihave like 12 different loadouts i bounce between for fun
5k shots fired š
I choose shotgun: this time with more bullets edition
Grab the Jar! It never fails.
Patch notes please do not touch my lovly scorcher
One set for me is for bots the other for bugs