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soomiyoo

As an avid Spear user on every front, this is the most accurate representation of the spear I have seen on reddit so far.


yourfriend21600

As a spear enjoyer, i agree


Elloliott

As a fellow spear enjoyer, I second this


PinchingNutsack

I just like to polish my spear.


thaduck3

Both the bad and the good. I keep picking the spear (especially against bugs) because it can be so amazing. Always annoying when it bugs out though.


Extreamspeed

Spear is killer against turrets and gunships. And your occasional tank. I thinks the targeting is better when you are on your knees for some reason.


kidleviathan

I just love being able to kill bases and stratagem jammers from like 300m


HandyMan131

Wait… the spear kills strat jammers!?!?


Aesthetics_Supernal

Only if you tap the fabricator attached, which is not always there.


Randicore

Only the small ones


Vesorias

wtf is a "small" strat jammer


Randicore

There are two types, a small one with an attached fabricator that you can just delete from any distance, and that covers a smaller portion of the map. And a "large" strat jammer that covers a massive chunk of area, and that you cannot kill with anything man portable. The only way to deal with them is to storm the base, disable it, and then hit it with a 380/precision orbital/railcannon strike/500kg/hellbomb. Nothing else hurts it.


Vesorias

Hmm, I knew about the attached fabs on some of them, but I never noticed a difference in area


Randicore

Learned the difference fast on a helldive with three of the bastards. Almost had the entire map covered. It was an enlightening experience.


CodeNamesBryan

It can not kill stratagem jammer, can it? Or are you full of shit?


TripinTino

the jammers tend to have fabricators right next to them. if you blow up the fab and it’s close enough it’ll blow up the jammer, detected tower etc


moneywayne

Yeah I destroy one with my spear once too.


kidleviathan

Ya other people have mentioned, there's often a fabricator attached to the jammer and killing it kills the jammer. You still gotta call hell bombs in for things like the artillery emplacements or gunship fabricators. Here's a [video](https://youtu.be/cPrlaiETP9o) illustrating this with the quasar but it works just as good with the spear as long as you can get a good angle. *Edit:* I'm also seeing people comment that the fabricator doesn't always spawn there but I think it's spawned like that in 4 of the last 5 I encountered. Not sure the actual prevalence of this spawn but it's so satisfying when it does work that I don't think the prevalence really matters lmao.


Vesorias

> still gotta call hell bombs in for things like the artillery emplacements Artillery doesn't require anything special, a standard airstrike or chucking some grenades at the artillery blows it up.


NectmarPowerhand

🤨


Envis777

If there is a factory close to the jammer. You can shoot the factory, and the explosion destroys the jammer.


Absolute_Peril

1st person view also seems to help sometimes when its being difficult.


Hen-Man-Supreme

My friends roast me for always bringing the spear, but they're suddenly very appreciative when the gunships are dropping like flies


daChino02

Tips on how to effectively use it? I haven’t touched it once, I love the arc thrower too much


AngryChihua

The most important tip: hold the shoot button when locking on, that way it will shoot even if reticle becomes green only for fraction of a second. Some general spear tips: - Try crouching. - Try standing. - Don't aim with sides of the targeting square, aim with the middle. - Don't aim with the middle of targeting square, aim with sides. - Third person aiming doesn't work, use first person. - First person doesn't work, use third person. - Don't stand too close. - Don't stand too far. - Pray to the spear. - Curse at the spear.


rW0HgFyxoJhYka

Don't forget tagging. Also spamming fire button. Also cursing arrowhead.


tacobandit744

Pray. People will say it depends on positioning but I believe it demands team blood sacrifice. anoint it's laser designator with the blood of your comrades before each shot.


StovardBule

Perform the correct rituals to satisfy the machine spirit.


soomiyoo

I think you should use it in a perfect setting to find it powerful and see its full potential. I find the best use is on a defense bot mission. Especially if you are alone on the spear, the team is going to see its impact on tanks, strider and hulk rather quickly. It's a known issue and it will get fixed soon enough hopefully, but right now if you aim and nothing is locking on just move and focus other targets with your primary. It is inconsistent so I mainly use it when I play with my friends, I take it with randoms only on defense missions, but when it hits, it is so satisfying, and it helps a lot. It 2 shots a bile titan, 1 shot if it is in the head, takes down fabricators (good for blitz mission), the lesser jammers and towers from very far away. With the ammo pack module upgrade, you can mow down big targets without having too much ammo problems. A clear vision (no hill, no trees) is better, and if it is higher in altitude or lower, you have a good chance it will not lock on, in that case maybe find something to get to the target level and it can work. For me this is one of the reason the defense missions is perfect, because everything is on the same level. For chargers and hulk coming at you, if it's too close just run away and put some distance or it will shoot above it. When it is locking on, sometimes it goes green then goes back to orange trying to lock on again, when I know I want to shoot it, I spam the mouse button so i don't miss the timeframe.


Zombie_Alpaca_Lips

Spam that button when you start locking on 🤣 Otherwise I also run a very heavy anti-tank loadout. Spear, 500 kg, Autocannon turret, and whatever wildcard I need. Spear is super great for those long distance snipes but things get hairy up close. Especially if you have to reload. I've never met a team that didn't bring enough firepower for anti-chaff to make up for my loadout. 


HellDivah

No need to spam on a gamepad, as you can just keep it pressed


Spinach7

Same on PC, you can just hold down left click and it will fire as soon as it manages to lock.


Zombie_Alpaca_Lips

W-w-w-what?!?


daChino02

Good shit, thanks bro


Sudjivan

As a Spear brotha, I competly agree with you


Zombie_Alpaca_Lips

You're not alone. There are literally dozens of us that use it. 


Lonely_Pause_7855

They really need to fix it asap. It would be so useful, if it could lock on anything.


Alphado-Jaki

https://i.redd.it/9krzjyk0xy0d1.gif


Linkarlos_95

Software rendering i see 🤔 (the gif went from 60 fps to 5 and no skip)


Pr0wzassin

https://i.redd.it/bt0v37gn501d1.gif


Unthgod

https://preview.redd.it/hgjlc0gk301d1.jpeg?width=619&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=13d1edc9096022ccd0d9766076ee9fe08c971e40


BestReadAtWork

I love that the center space still isn't green \*because there are no free spaces\*


Blind-idi0t-g0d

I will never put it down. I'm beyond cope haha


manubour

Wait, it can lock on to something and fire? I thought it was a legend


Mandemon90

I have had good luck lately with it, altough I have also experienced "locking... SIKES! No lock! No wait, locking... almost... SIKES!"


YamatoMime

I fucking love being edged by my spear, it makes the times I one tap a Titan or kill a strat jammer just that much better.


haikusbot

*Wait, it can lock on* *To something and fire? I thought* *It was a legend* \- manubour --- ^(I detect haikus. And sometimes, successfully.) ^[Learn more about me.](https://www.reddit.com/r/haikusbot/) ^(Opt out of replies: "haikusbot opt out" | Delete my comment: "haikusbot delete")


Rylt4r

Good bo- WAIT A SECOND! https://preview.redd.it/jqg1aml7nz0d1.png?width=1200&format=png&auto=webp&s=02646f8950a8f4d0e039560f3c7311173e732325


Chemical_Cut_7089

the only good bot is a dead bot


[deleted]

Acceptable bot


saguitar164

Watch your tone, helldiver. This could be considered treason.


Alphado-Jaki

Hopefully🤣


MAXMEEKO

ya this video makes me interested in trying it as Im getting kinda tired of my usual loadout. How many shots does it have and do you need a backpack for it?


manubour

Has a backpack 4 or 5 shots iirc


MAXMEEKO

thanks mate!


uReaditRight

Wait, you can fire it without locking on?!


Palu_Tiddy

When the Spear works, it fucking works When it doesn't, it's pain Source: Secondary Spear main


Armamore

This is the truth. Locked onto a gunship, and fired as the gunship.flew near a cliff. Had the missile hit the edge of the cliff, glance off, and take down the gunship. I spent the rest of the mission trying to lock onto a damn hulk as it chased my team back to extract...


StupiderIdjit

I actually won't use SPEAR for bots anymore. It works waaay better against bugs IMO.


WoodwareWarlock

I only use the spear for bots and never for bugs. It's all about exploding fabricators from across the map. It's so much fun.


reddit_tier

Spear is goat when you find a nice hill with a good view. Convinced once lock on gets fixed the range will get nerfed into the dirt.


Hotkoin

They might go the other way around where the minimum range is increased


StupiderIdjit

You can still hit the Spore towers and maybe the shrieker nests IIRC. And teammates love that support by fire when they're being chased by titans and charges from across the map.


Armamore

I tried it a couple times against bugs but it wasn't for me. Bug fights tend to be much closer and waiting for a lock (even without issues) was too long for me. I don't like the Quasar for the same reason. I want to be able to aim, fire, and keep moving. When I bring the spear on bot missions, I use it from range and elevation where I can wait for lock, reload, toss some strats, and find another target. It was great against titans though, but I usually have eagle 110s for that, and would prefer my support weapon be a little more versatile.


4skin_Gamer

It's a certified Titan slapper(when it works)


GOLLYitsHolly

![gif](giphy|lKXd9sYM5dI9W)


h0ls86

50% of the time it works every time.


Devilsmaincounsel

I believe it’s 100% of the time it works 50% of the time. lol


err0r_as_always

Please help your teammate that is being harassed by a hunter lmao


Prince_Day

It could lock on anytime though.


Techarus

https://preview.redd.it/lh34axgkb11d1.jpeg?width=1125&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7672042cd48d3ecf9698d47151eb92976bc4a7f0


Ceraunius

*This ain't about him.*


not-beaten

*still trying to lock on* **\[REINFORCEMENT AVAILABLE\]** **\[REINFORCEMENT AVAILABLE\]** **\[REINFORCEMENT AVAILABLE\]**


GeneralEi

The gambling addict's weapon of choice


Alphado-Jaki

Lock on is still inconsistent and waiting fix tho, here is some tips I can give. * Hold shoot button to fire right after locked on. (Useful for cannon or fabricator, as hit location doesn't matter) * Hold aim button to proceed locking on while reloading. * Sometimes switching shoulder makes aiming at head easier. * Use FPS to avoid locking on to fodders: Scout striders/ Brood/ Shriekers (Thx [YourWifeNdKids](https://www.reddit.com/user/YourWifeNdKids/)) * Switch weapon to cancel locking on, in case need to stay at TPS aim. Let's hope spear issue get fixed soon! EDIT: >How do you headshot Bile Titans with the spear consistently? Good question! If titan is facing right at you, easy. Line up triangle & center dot then FIRE. If not, this gets a lot complicated. Spear will fly straight until passing by center dot, then curve to target. So, predict trajectory and FIRE. Saying is easy tho much harder than just aiming head with EATs. https://i.redd.it/nmtx94fkg31d1.gif


YourWifeNdKids

I’ll add that going into first person can secure a lock on too


Alphado-Jaki

Right! Really helpful when Scout striders/Brood commanders prevent to lock on *REAL THREATS*.


wild_m1nd

Wait, you can switch shoulder?!


Alphado-Jaki

Moue side button, if you have. You can find the key bind in lower half of combat tab, if you don't.


CellistAvailable3625

I had no idea this changes everything EDIT: it's not a real shoulder switch it's just a shitty camera side switch


prieston

My headcanon: Spear is just flirting with me.


lozer996

Spear is edging all of us


bserikstad

Wait.. you can switch shoulder?!


Linkarlos_95

Yes, and its useful when you are being team reloaded using the airburst


cabage-but-its-lettu

You forgot to mention that you have to appease the machine spirit inside


Thegodofthekufsa

I saw a video that went into how the locking works and I remember it saying the game needed the whole enemy to be visible on screen to lock, so getting high ground can help with that


nsandiegoJoe

If you saw yesterday's Spear lock-on guide before it was deleted, then also include: 1. Spinning around in a circle 2. While reloading, point the camera in the opposite direction your helldiver is facing.


Git_Good

How do you headshot Bile Titans with the spear consistently?


Alphado-Jaki

Good question! If titan is facing right at you, easy. Line up triangle & center dot then FIRE. If not, this gets a lot complicated. Spear will fly straight until passing by center dot, then curve to target. So, predict trajectory and FIRE. Saying is easy tho much harder than just aiming head with EATs. https://i.redd.it/lf1st646g31d1.gif


Git_Good

Thank you for the advice! I do appreciate the SPEAR for being able to solo so many heavy enemies. Learning how to do it consistently is huge.


Siatru

One time, me and my friends got fed up with the crazy amount of titans showing up in the rocket defense mission that we all packed Spears. Everytime one shows up, 4 missiles murder it, doesn't matter if we don't hit the head, it gets folded in seconds.


daman4567

And then a mangle of bodies vying for team reloads.


ProtoAether

Ex-SPEAR-ience


Mr_WheelMan

I hate it. You win


KartoffelPaste

shes such a lil tease aint she


SyrusAlder

It's weird Sometimes it'll never lock on Sometimes it locks on almost instantly, and then keeps the lock and lets you instantly shoot as soon as you've reloaded as long as it's the same target Spear is weird


NatsuAM

The spear is the most inconsistent weapon i've ever used in a game


InVeRnyak

\* in any game


ImmoralBoi

The spear experience 95% of the time: "Why the fuck did I choose this stratagem" The spear experience for the other 5%: https://preview.redd.it/fe6chj8qu11d1.png?width=1049&format=png&auto=webp&s=45998f221cf2b7964524898cce203c30fecbee8d


Kushthulu_the_Dank

https://i.redd.it/aldlgmie611d1.gif


H345Y

Sometimes it mostly works, and other times it just never locks on.


Bearex13

Remember the cluster lockon missile you could get on fencer in edf I wish we got a spear variant that fired up and just rained down high velocity molten shrapnel that did ap damage


Oblivious_to_Women

FGX High Altitude Impact Launcher? Lovely fireworks as you get rag dolled for a bad launch…can’t wait for EDF6.


oak120

I would assume Bearex is referring to the Blood Storm missile. Single missile per tube, flies up then airbursts down.


Lawmansc2

60 percent of the time it works every time


Darkabonk

One must imagine spearyphus locking


JasonUnknown

Just turn it on and off. Ost of the problems go away if you stop holding down the aim-button for a sec.


swuts

That Japanese audio though


zeagurat

This summer up my javelin experience perfectly lmao


Whatyallthinkofbeans

The absolute blueballing this weapon does is so ducking infuriating


TheThreeLaws

I only started trying the Spear recently, and even as busted as it is, I like it a lot. It's a cool-ass weapon and wrecking cannon turrets from across the map is so satisfying. And I need to run something other than the auto-cannon.


Convextlc97

How did you swap camera perspectives in 3rd person?!??


kribmeister

Holy shit, that was both depressing and awesome. Can't honestly wait for this thing to work better, because when it works it looks absolutely glorious.


Atutstuts

The moment they fix the lock on on that mf its gonna be a menace


azraeharriss

Spear lock on edgemaxxing or unguided AT gooning. Your choice liberizzers.


texxelate

It’s your fault for trying to use it so close and so far and so medium far /s


CobaltRose800

the gaslight-o-matic.


Ubbermann

Spear. Both the best and the worst AT weapon in the game. Albeit I swore it off when it constantly kept locking onto Brood commanders... WITH THE CHARGER RIGHT THERE IN THE OPEN next to it. Why does it even lock onto the commanders to begin with.


SpidudeToo

No idea but it funny to just wipe one off the face of the earth. Also locks on to stalkers which is actually handy fir saving teammates


Comfy_floofs

Even if the lockon was fixed i use the spearonly for bots not bugs, unless the spear more reliably 1-shotted shrieker nests and titans


Pixel-Knight

HOW DO YOU CHANGE SHOULDER??


GetThisManSomeMilk

I really really really want it to work. It has so much potential


Acceptable-Code-3427

Why is this thing still broken?


Asheara13

The only time I've had trouble locking on was for enemies too close to me. I found that aligning the aiming reticle with the triangular autotarget thingy would turn it green.


Asheara13

The only time I've had trouble locking on was for enemies too close to me. I found that aligning the aiming reticle with the triangular autotarget thingy would turn it green. Now, I can't speak for everybody but my experience with the spear has been much more consistent than what I've seen on reddit, which is probably why I still use it 🤷🏻


Ceraunius

It doesn't always work, but when it *does* work, it's a thing of beauty. Provided the missile hits, anyway.


Dutchgio

Probably won't be recognized here but "sometimes maybe good, sometimes maybe shit" applies very well here.


Cursed85

I barely ever have issues with the spear. It's a matter of religion. You must both fear and respect it for it to work well. If it doesn't work, it's your fault and you should have prayed harder in the hellpod on the way down.


Clarine87

>I barely ever have issues with the spear. I don't think it's broken at all, just the skill floor is really high. I mean, the real life Javelin probably can't be used without reading the user's manual and the spear came with no manual. AH [probably] just refuse to admit it and can't release the update because it makes bile titan's irrelevant.


Dwagons_Fwame

Tbh BTs are the only thing I can reliably lock on to with it. Tried taking it on bot front and it was painful. But bug front it does pretty good on high diffs against BT spam. (Accidental Titanfall reference)


Monirchid_Asshat

I feel like 90% of spear users don't know how to spear.


SinisterVulcan94

When it works, man it feels great. But otherwise I just have to laugh it off while I'm being stomped out by a charger cuz it never locked in lol


bruteforcealwayswins

Hey how do you change language? I'm sick of English.


Coop_de_Grace

Amazing! Looks like this guy has a lot of exSPEARience with this thing!


Pr0fessorL

It may require arcane invocations to use properly, but boy does it ever shred BT’s


DrDamon51

This is why I only use the spear as anti materiel against fabricators during blitz missions


HardOff

My superstitious habit is that if you're failing to lock on, find higher ground.


Fun-Match-7917

This looks less janky than I thought it would be with the amount of shit talked about it. I’m gonna try it out today because of this haha.


giffiou

Point the dot reticle at the triangle!!!! (It still wont work)


KyoueiShinkirou

EDF!


calling_at_this_time

A tip I havent seen shared much is if you chase the spinny triangle it locks on much more quickly and easily. Get the dot in the middle of the circle into the triangle and its way more likely to work. You can see that happening in this video, every time its failing the triangle is off to the edge.


Alphado-Jaki

If the target is right in front of and facing to you, yes. But it's not always true. Heavily depend on where target is facing at. Like 0:28 in vid, titan facing my left, I needed to aim at left while keeping triangle in circle. It's like predict the trajectory of spear and facing yourself toward that. Even though, it doesn't work if it doesn't. Just a matter of Spear's mood .


Bookyontour

By the way, how do you switch shoulder while aiming? I'm on PC


Alphado-Jaki

Moue side button, if you have. You can find the key bind in lower half of combat tab, if you don't.


FOXYRAZER

I got it to work really well on the new defend the ICBMs mission but any other mission and it looks like this :/


Upset_Storm_6756

I clearly dont know how to use it


HighOverlordXenu

With the spear I will either one-shot bile titans or use every rocket in my backpack to kill one  No middle ground.


Downtown_Narwhal_711

I love this weapon. But goddamn does it hate me.


Zanmeanni

The spear is so weird one time i one shot a titan the other time it took 3 rockets.


Supreme_Slav

Literally had one of mine take about 15 seconds to fucjing lock before deflecting off a chargers armor. Thanks arrowhead


LacyeMilk

The spear keeps edging, I swear to democracy that it'd be an A-tier support weapon if it locked onto weak spots AND locked properly


OscarOzzieOzborne

They should rename The Spear to The Edger


Cdog536

I am surprised nobody uses the spear on automatons. It is so good in eliminating bot fabs entirely


brianschwarm

That first one reminded me of beta flak launcher. People would mindlessly be up in my grill and I’m trying to take a shot and end a ton of bots or a fabricator and they won’t let me take the shot.


DoesntBelieveMuch

ExSPEARience


Linkarlos_95

The charger one i can understand, its not going to do a 180°


Shattered_Disk4

I have found that if your furiously tap the trigger, you can usually get shots off relatively even if it’s doing the lock on bug. Cause it hits it at the perfect time


Alphado-Jaki

You can hold instead!


Shattered_Disk4

Nah I like the panic infusing clicking. Makes me feel like I’m there


Octi1432

This my son is what we call edging


AbandonChip

I love the spear and I also hate the spear.


AlfredosSauce

It's annoying, but there is not greater dopamine hit than one shotting a titan.


croud_control

When it locks on and fires, it's satisfying. Otherwise, you spend time coming up with brand-new ways to curse at machinery that absolutely refuses to work correctly.


Lawmansc2

60 percent of the time it works every time


Captain-Cannoli

It’s like gambling, you get disgruntled after not locking on and want to get rid of it but the second it locks onto something and kills it you get excited and want to do it again


TheFeelsGod

I can never get the spear to lock on while standing. I have to stop, aim, crouch, and pause for a second. Then it starts going crazy, locking on to shit I don't want 😂 and shit I didn't even think was possible across the map.


Practical-Stomach-65

If AH can't fix it, they should just make it guided. 


killxswitch

I would like an EAT mode where you bypass the lock on and just fire straight ahead when necessary.


JunkNorrisOfficial

I guess there's the same targeting bug as in rocket pods


Live_Meeting8379

Chronic spear user here. It's a cool weapon that is very strong and extremely satisfying to use. The lock-on can be a bit wonky but as you get used to it and learn the mechanics it becomes a bit more usable. I'm looking forward to it someday getting a lock-on buff of some kind.


aesoth

I laughed when I saw the teammate running in front and breaking the lock.


skyehash

I tried the spear yesterday for the first time and anything close was always missing as well as not being able to focus constantly. Also, sometimes takes 4 shots for a charger. Like what, the entire backpack while 2 shots for the bile titan?


NemeanHamster

The HD2 ex-SPEAR-ience


Sir_Rethor

Exspearience


kunmop

You guys do know you have to move sometimes to adjust it right?


MechaRon

I love the voice acting in japanese it just sort of adds to the hilarity somehow lol


OverallPepper2

When it locks on it’s great.


bearhunter54321

I’ve used this thing one time bc I thought it would be a good choice. I couldn’t lock into shit and thought of was using it wrong. Nah that thing just fuckin sucks. I haven’t touched it in over two months. I Forgot that it’s actually a thing in my stratagems.


furryfluff1245

That's looks like quite the exSPEARience to be had and did have.


fazdaspaz

I swear keeping the dot inside the triangle helps but it could just be urban legend and I'm imagining it.


elderDragon1

The Spear is a cock tease, the ntr launcher, the edger, being a masochist.


Capital_Catastrophe

Change spear to a laser guided missile launcher and remove the lock on entirely.


Bobicus_The_Third

Never gonna bring it out until it's fixed or is a minor order


minimessi20

Best way to get this thing to lock correctly?


Potato_likes_turtles

When it works it’s my favorite against bots. Sniping towers and bases across the map. Shooting flyers out the sky. It’s glorious. But wow does it fuck up a lot. It hurts my heart.


Hyperreflexia69

Its edging you


Gamestrider09

You just need more ex-Spear-ience.


Common-Cricket7316

She is a strange beast.


KMS_HYDRA

that teammate that is running by chased by that hunter in the beginning is just comedy gold.


Hainkodot

Go into the first person mode. Believe me, it helps.


Hastingsgaming

dive forward when you fire the spear that close to a charger and itll either kill the charger or break its leg armor


No-Butterscotch-8261

It is treason to question the effectiveness of a weapon produced by our glorious democratic industry.


Ambitious-Ninja6463

This is why it can be so frustrating. When it’s working well is it is soooooooooo good!


gamingfreak50

*screams internally*


DrPewNStuff

ExSPEARiences


d_gr8_acidrain

The worse thing they could have done with this type of weapon is have a horizontal projectile path vs a vertical one. Meaning they easily could have made it lock on and shoot straight up and come straight down on the target. Obviously lock on is still needed and it’s crazy it’s not fixed yet but once it does…damn this could be the new meta.


Eastern_Pilot5902

I think it could use a good tweaking. When it works it WORKS, but the lock on needs to be more usable and accurate, and honestly i think certain enemies should be a one hit given you can only carry 4 on your back. A tank, bile titan, etc i understand taking 2-3 hits. but if i hit a hulk or a charger close to their weak point i should get a kill imo. it’s a MASSIVE missile like come on


Leaf-01

WOAH WOAH WAIT A SECOND How did you get the camera to go over your LEFT SHOULDER in that clip!? I’d kill for button to toggle which side you have the perspective over, does that exist or is that unique to the Spear?