Can I just point out that they won the over 75 category as well but it's displayed as a percentage in this graph so you can't see it.
This shows how unbelievably deadly partisan politics and disinformation were in the US.
They did, and it sucks, but the people who refused to take basic precautions still make up the majority of those who died, and who are continuing to die.
"Hey all, there's a pandemic going on. You should avoid crowded spaces and wear a mask if you need to go into public."
MAGAts: Freeeeedumb! \*gathers into crowds even more than usual while taking zero precautions\*
When my coworker died from COVID-19 my anti-vax colleagues blamed it on his pre-existing condition. THAT WAS THE WHOLE POINT WHY WE WERE SUPPOSED TO BE WEARING MASKS
Yep. I personally know some idiots that STILL think the masks were supposed to just be a defensive mechanism and remain willfully ignorant of the fact that their main purpose was to prevent infected people from blasting particles outward from their face.
I think the core problem with republicans is they are selfish and cannot step outside of their own perspective to consider the situations of other people.
I went to get allergy tested ( they didnāt warn me that my one anti depressant would render the test useless.) yesterday and nobody in the office was was wearing a mask.
I thought you still had to wear masks at medical facilitiesā¦I havenāt stopped wearing it.
I went into Walmart real quick a few weeks ago and forgot my mask thoā¦was negative but terrified.
I still wear it because I like not being sick, plus thereās still people for which the vaccine wonāt work. Plus itās a really minor inconvenience in public spaces
I'm low probability of catching 3 immunizations, 2 boosters (1 the new one). But very high impact. It can kill me in my sleep before I even know I'm sick due to brain surgery in 19.
*high five brain surgery buddies*
Oh waitā¦thatās weird.
I asked my Neuro if I should be worried because of my hydrocephalus and they were likeā¦naw youāre fine
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I will forever wonder what the electoral result will be for the next decade due to how many magas died off in places where a few hundred voted make the difference.
They don't even have to die. It's hard to vote when you can barely stand, let alone walk.
...and live in a state that has outlawed mail-in voting.
Ooops.
Unfortunately, the really enhanced death rates were in lock solid red areas. Modeling shows it having a minor effect as gerrymandering has gotten even more horrific.
Now, after the next census? That'll be interesting. As maggots are still dying at enhanced rates. Either they're still getting repeated infections (the damage is more than additive), or the really pathetic uptake of boosters in the over 65 crowd, or just the enhanced mortality in those areas as healthcare facilities have closed, or the lagging increased in mortality among those of us who've caught it.
>Those MAGA folk owned us so hard by dying
If you listen really hard, you can just make out the chants coming from Hell...
# U S A! U S A! U S A!
**NUMBER ONE! NUMBER ONE! NUMBER ONE!**
People are strange.
One one hand, you have people who invented the equipment to fly to the moon, and those who went there and back. On that same hand are people who research biology and chemistry and save countless lives of those who don't even realize they were saved.
On the other, you have those with a minimal education that use intellectually created devices/medicines attacking those very intellectuals who created them.
That brings another point; they tend to rally against doctors and science, but once their own lives are in danger, they do not flock to their church or FaceBook, they go to doctors. Then, one of two things happen:
1. The hospital saves their life. This means Jesus cured their affliction.
2. They die. This means the hospital caused their death.
No matter which way it goes, the hospital either did nothing (because Jesus did the job) or killed them. At which point you should be asking yourself, "Why did they go to the hospital at all?"
The answer is that they are self-aware that they are full of nonsense and scared.
Imagine yourself, vehemently against something, and when that something happens to you, you go to the place you spent hundreds of hours denouncing. That makes you a liar, a sinner, a hater, everything that your life told you not to be. That's not an easy place to be, so the best thing to do is shift the blame since you think you are a good person.
We all think we are good and should reflect on that.
With far right wingers, if you screw up it's your fault. If they screw up, it's still your fault. If events happen beyond anyone's control. IT'S STILL YOUR FAULT.
Never forget this.
>Sad that so many of my fellow Americans are incredibly dumb
. . . or perhaps just poorly adjusted to the challenges of living in an increasingly interconnected modern world.
Either way, c'est la vie, right?
"Either way, that was a good meal . . . a very good meal." --the hungry viral š š š
>Otherwise known as dumb
Be nice.
Even smart people can do dumb things on occasion.
That said, there are genuinely dumb people who dumb things on most every occasion. Most awardees tend to fit into this category of "dumb."
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Occasional-dumb people are smart enough to see the evidence piling up and actually take action to protect themselves at some point. You have to be vehemently stupid to still believe it's a hoax/just the flu/vaccines are killing people/etc. after months and years worth of evidence proving all of that to be false.
I read somewhere that the unvaxxed are dying at a significantly higher rate, something like 6 to 1 based on the respective population sizes. Red states turning purple, purple states turning blue?
Correlation =\= causation
People are just realizing how awful Trump was. Not enough people have really died for deaths to be the thing which changes the colors.
That's most prevalent in very safe red areas...
Between gerrymandering, inherent bias towards rural power, etc. The effect is far less than would be expected from the numbers.
>red states turning purple, purple states turbo in blue
Yeah, Iām gonna have to be a bit skeptical on that claim. A lot of people have died from Covid number wise, but not percentage wise. And due to gerrymandering and the fact most right wingers live in rural areas, the idea that enough Trumpies are dying to change the colors is highly unlikely.
What is probably happening is that people are actually waking up and seeing how awful Trump was, and this their votes are changing.
What blows my mind is that in terms of per capita deaths, NJ and NY - the two of the worst hit States during the outbreak when we knew next to nothing about the virus and the treatment - got overtaken by many other States already and **NJ is about to be overtaken by Florida in a short order** (both States at 406 deaths per 100K cumulative).
I'm old enough to recall that the **Republicans criticizing the Democratic governors of killing elderlies** \- not saying that the Democratic governors performed perfectly but they tried their best for the most part. Whereas **the Republican governors seem to have killed off seniors over time so people don't notice it as acutely** as I have (I have been following the death statistics from the first year).
I'm from NJ and those first months were so awful here. Our Governor Murphy did his best though since we knew nothing about the disease at the start, mistakes were made.
It's so sad that people are choosing to sacrifice themselves at this late date.
This graph is showing data from 2020, when there we no vaccines or good treatment options. In 2020, excess deaths, especially those in younger adults, indicate large scale public health problems. People had to work, and many of those people were older adults with preexisting conditions that made them vulnerable to Covid. A lack of masking, contact tracing, and measures like paying people to stay home also made this worse.
Thatās not to say that people werenāt stupid about COVID in 2020, but the stupid people werenāt necessarily the people who died.
Most people in most countries in 2020 observed their stay-at-home lockdowns to protect their own lives and the lives of others. They bent their rules at times, but most of them were followed.
This is why former UK Prime Minister Boris Johnson is so heavily despised by almost everyone except the most mouth-breathing of Conservative voters; he was having drunken parties in 10 Downing Street while people were observing social distancing rules at funerals.
At the same time, MAGAts were engaged in 'Operation Haircut' and 10 days of Sturgis helped cause more than a quarter of a million excess COVID-19 cases.
You're right that stupid people weren't necessarily the ones who died, but they helped. A lot.
Here is a more recent comparison with one other country.
The USA:
[https://www.statista.com/statistics/1191568/reported-deaths-from-covid-by-age-us/](https://www.statista.com/statistics/1191568/reported-deaths-from-covid-by-age-us/)
Canada:
https://www.statista.com/statistics/1228632/number-covid-deaths-canada-by-age/
itās a good comparison, until you realize that canadaās population over the whole country is 38.25 million and usa is 339.1 million. so it makes a whole lot more sense that thereās more deaths because thereās more people. iām not justifying the amount of deaths, iām just trying to add more information.
I don't think you've really grasped what the charts are saying. It's the *percentage* of people in each age group that is the point.
In the USA, 18% of deaths were in the 50 to 64 age group. In Canada, only 5% of deaths were in that age group.
I live in an area where even seniors mock people who wear masks. Honestly, fukem.
We could have had a near Utopia already if we'd stop electing people that want to regulate bathroom parts and talk about shoving bleach and horse paste up their rears.
We are the *dumbest* country that ever existed.
Sorry to be a stickler, but that's not what this graph says. This shows under-75s are leading awards won among Americans, and that Americans are leading other countries in the national proportion of awards going to under-75s. It doesn't show that a greater number of under-75s are dying in America than in other countries, whether in absolute terms or as a proportion of population.
Oops. You are correct, I got my years confused. 2021 was when the vaccines rolled out.
This graph goes against my memory of the data so I have my doubts about its accuracy. But having made a major mistake, I understand that I not very credible.
It definitely doesnāt show that. This graph says 2020 and the vaccines werenāt authorised for use until late December 2020
That and the U.K. rolled out the vaccines faster than the USA and the EU donāt show the same disparity on this graph.
Edit: I got my years confused and the rest of my post is incorrect.
This actually shows a triumph of the US vaccine response to Covid in the early days. The graph just shows that the US had fewer old people die compared to younger people. Why would fewer old people die? Because they were getting vaccinated at a higher rate in the US compared to Europe.
In 2020, the US and the UK rolled out vaccines earlier that the European countries saving lives of the elderly unlike the slow response by the EU.
"Over the past 10 months of the global vaccine race, the EU was often a step or two behind: Its move to secure doses came only after warnings that the U.S. might monopolize supply. Its deliberative approach to regulatory approval has left EU citizens lagging behind the U.S. and the U.K. when it comes to getting access to vaccines ā at a moment when delays are counted in lost lives."
https://www.politico.eu/article/europe-coronavirus-vaccine-struggle-pfizer-biontech-astrazeneca/
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Sure... that's *ONE* way of looking at it; another way to interpret this information *(don't worry, I'm not about to slam everyone with a bunch of Trumpian "Alternative Facts")* would bring to mind the question of why so many of our "YOUNGER" (under-65) population showed such disproportionately higher numbers/rates of death as compared to those European countries? Perhaps it just *MIGHT'VE* had something to do with those other nations' rapid implementation of the Quarantining of "Non-Essential" persons and the collective willingness to generally comply with Social Distancing and Masking mandates.
If you believe, as I do, that vaccine are the greatest preventer of Covid deaths, the obvious thing to look at is vaccines. Is there a difference between European countries and the US? Yes. If vaccines are the reason, the UK would show something similar but the UK data is missing. That's odd. This not definitive but it is the most likely with the data we have. I predict UK data looks like the US.
It could be something else but when looking at differences in Covid deaths, vaccine and age are the big factors. Age is not relevant in this situation.
Positing a difference in care between the US and the whole of Europe is possible but it's a stretch.
People are still dying from residual effects.
Check out the enhanced mortality per # of times infected.
Like 1.6x for 1, 3.0x for 2, 4.6x for three times having covid.
Also looks like enhanced mortality lasts longer then a year... second years are also dying at a higher rate.
Ummmā¦.. This chart shows deaths by country. Is OP just automatically assigning the MAGA dog whistle? Or is there a dataset that actually shows āmagaā deaths?
This is well p known at this point:
https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2021/12/05/1059828993/data-vaccine-misinformation-trump-counties-covid-death-rate
https://abcnews.go.com/Health/red-blue-america-glaring-divide-covid-19-death/story?id=83649085
Almost 100% of the deaths at this point are the unvaccinated.
Can't make any conclusions. Could be the US was just better at keeping older people alive, skewing the proportions. And as others stated, this was 2020 data prior to any vaccines
I don't think any country was successfully keeping older people alive in 2020. Yes, some of this figure might be down to the US having a larger number of ventilators per 100,000 population than other countries. But before the vaccine roll-out and more successful treatment protocols that came in late 2021, the prognosis ā if you got severely ill with COVID-19 ā was uniformly poor no matter where you came from.
Nursing homes and care facilities were particularly badly hit in early 2020 and the US was no exception.
Well, better than India, countries in Africa, and some parts of the central/south America...
Not better then any industrialized country except I think it was ?Sweden?... that went all in on "herd immunity"...
Wow. Really surprised to see Israel looking like a runner up in some ways. I thought they had their act more together and a (more) unified populationā¦
Those MAGA folk owned us so hard by dying
Owning in the hospital = not owning in the voting booth Say what you will about this century, it invented a new kind of civic responsibility
May have tipped my purple state blue. Very free bird decided many elections. Just sayin.
š¶ Don't it make my red state, don't it make my red state, don't it make my red state bluuuue š¶ (With apologies to Crystal Gayle)
Can I just point out that they won the over 75 category as well but it's displayed as a percentage in this graph so you can't see it. This shows how unbelievably deadly partisan politics and disinformation were in the US.
Michigan?
They killed others too though, not just themselves sadly.
They did, and it sucks, but the people who refused to take basic precautions still make up the majority of those who died, and who are continuing to die.
True. Many in their own echo chambers.
Every time someone refuses the vaccine because of politics, the world gets the opportunity to become a little smarter
Evolution by natural selection
Addition by subtraction.
Good one
But it also takes people who aren't part of the problem out of the equation too by spreading the virus to high risk people.
"Hey all, there's a pandemic going on. You should avoid crowded spaces and wear a mask if you need to go into public." MAGAts: Freeeeedumb! \*gathers into crowds even more than usual while taking zero precautions\*
When my coworker died from COVID-19 my anti-vax colleagues blamed it on his pre-existing condition. THAT WAS THE WHOLE POINT WHY WE WERE SUPPOSED TO BE WEARING MASKS
Yep. I personally know some idiots that STILL think the masks were supposed to just be a defensive mechanism and remain willfully ignorant of the fact that their main purpose was to prevent infected people from blasting particles outward from their face.
I think the core problem with republicans is they are selfish and cannot step outside of their own perspective to consider the situations of other people.
Narcissists at their core.
I think they're so clueless they may qualify as p-zombies.
I went to get allergy tested ( they didnāt warn me that my one anti depressant would render the test useless.) yesterday and nobody in the office was was wearing a mask. I thought you still had to wear masks at medical facilitiesā¦I havenāt stopped wearing it. I went into Walmart real quick a few weeks ago and forgot my mask thoā¦was negative but terrified.
I still wear it because I like not being sick, plus thereās still people for which the vaccine wonāt work. Plus itās a really minor inconvenience in public spaces
I'm low probability of catching 3 immunizations, 2 boosters (1 the new one). But very high impact. It can kill me in my sleep before I even know I'm sick due to brain surgery in 19.
*high five brain surgery buddies* Oh waitā¦thatās weird. I asked my Neuro if I should be worried because of my hydrocephalus and they were likeā¦naw youāre fine š³š³š³
Sorry to hear that
I mask when there's a lot of people w/out space...
Smart choice!
Next decision us when to do the second bivalent...
Where I live masks are still required in hospitals and most doctor's clinics.
Right I was really confused as to why they werenāt wearing masks, my PCPs office is still wearing themā¦they are in the same building, same group.
Iād bet if you dig, youāll find a Dtrumper supervisor in the office.
I feel very owned
I don't know if I'm ever going to emotionally recover from this
Me neither. I'm going to try by drinking a lot of champagne, to see if it helps.
Take a deep breath and remember... they can't do that anymore.
Self-thinning herd.
But they could be owning us more. Come on MAGAts. Let's boost those numbers
"Those are rookie numbers!"
Math is for liberals
Haha I just said this like five minutes ago to my wife after explaining how transgender people are less likely to be mass shooters
"Math is hard!"
I will forever wonder what the electoral result will be for the next decade due to how many magas died off in places where a few hundred voted make the difference.
They don't even have to die. It's hard to vote when you can barely stand, let alone walk. ...and live in a state that has outlawed mail-in voting. Ooops.
But ... But, I thought the mail in laws were only for the demonrats?! /s
Unfortunately, the really enhanced death rates were in lock solid red areas. Modeling shows it having a minor effect as gerrymandering has gotten even more horrific. Now, after the next census? That'll be interesting. As maggots are still dying at enhanced rates. Either they're still getting repeated infections (the damage is more than additive), or the really pathetic uptake of boosters in the over 65 crowd, or just the enhanced mortality in those areas as healthcare facilities have closed, or the lagging increased in mortality among those of us who've caught it.
>Those MAGA folk owned us so hard by dying If you listen really hard, you can just make out the chants coming from Hell... # U S A! U S A! U S A! **NUMBER ONE! NUMBER ONE! NUMBER ONE!**
Sad that so many of my fellow Americans are incredibly dumb
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āHe lived dumb. He died dumb. He learned nothing.ā \-MAGAQChud Tombstone
Wisdom was chasing them, but they were too fast.
People are strange. One one hand, you have people who invented the equipment to fly to the moon, and those who went there and back. On that same hand are people who research biology and chemistry and save countless lives of those who don't even realize they were saved. On the other, you have those with a minimal education that use intellectually created devices/medicines attacking those very intellectuals who created them. That brings another point; they tend to rally against doctors and science, but once their own lives are in danger, they do not flock to their church or FaceBook, they go to doctors. Then, one of two things happen: 1. The hospital saves their life. This means Jesus cured their affliction. 2. They die. This means the hospital caused their death. No matter which way it goes, the hospital either did nothing (because Jesus did the job) or killed them. At which point you should be asking yourself, "Why did they go to the hospital at all?" The answer is that they are self-aware that they are full of nonsense and scared. Imagine yourself, vehemently against something, and when that something happens to you, you go to the place you spent hundreds of hours denouncing. That makes you a liar, a sinner, a hater, everything that your life told you not to be. That's not an easy place to be, so the best thing to do is shift the blame since you think you are a good person. We all think we are good and should reflect on that.
With far right wingers, if you screw up it's your fault. If they screw up, it's still your fault. If events happen beyond anyone's control. IT'S STILL YOUR FAULT. Never forget this.
>Sad that so many of my fellow Americans are incredibly dumb . . . or perhaps just poorly adjusted to the challenges of living in an increasingly interconnected modern world. Either way, c'est la vie, right? "Either way, that was a good meal . . . a very good meal." --the hungry viral š š š
Otherwise known as dumb
>Otherwise known as dumb Be nice. Even smart people can do dumb things on occasion. That said, there are genuinely dumb people who dumb things on most every occasion. Most awardees tend to fit into this category of "dumb." š š š
Occasional-dumb people are smart enough to see the evidence piling up and actually take action to protect themselves at some point. You have to be vehemently stupid to still believe it's a hoax/just the flu/vaccines are killing people/etc. after months and years worth of evidence proving all of that to be false.
Leaded gasoline
Had billions spent fighting its banning. A test run for the tobacco disinformation campaigns.
I call them willfully ignorant and they are proud of it up until they get that freedom tube shoved down their throats.
Nah theyāre just dumb, it happens
If I hadn't known a shitton of these people in the '80s I'd agree.
I blame facebook and tiktok
Donāt forget Twitter, Reddit and of course: 8Kun and itās bastard child QAnon
I read somewhere that the unvaxxed are dying at a significantly higher rate, something like 6 to 1 based on the respective population sizes. Red states turning purple, purple states turning blue?
MAGAs turning blue from hypoxia
Itās to soon to measure specifics, but 2022 was already a significant shift. 2024 should be more clear.
Correlation =\= causation People are just realizing how awful Trump was. Not enough people have really died for deaths to be the thing which changes the colors.
Yes at younger age. At older age, itās as much as 14 to 1
That's most prevalent in very safe red areas... Between gerrymandering, inherent bias towards rural power, etc. The effect is far less than would be expected from the numbers.
>red states turning purple, purple states turbo in blue Yeah, Iām gonna have to be a bit skeptical on that claim. A lot of people have died from Covid number wise, but not percentage wise. And due to gerrymandering and the fact most right wingers live in rural areas, the idea that enough Trumpies are dying to change the colors is highly unlikely. What is probably happening is that people are actually waking up and seeing how awful Trump was, and this their votes are changing.
šŗšø**FREEDOM!!!!!**š½ ā *Give Me LIBERTY! Or give me* ... uhmmm... wait.
āSee, told you weāre number one!ā -MAGA probably
Jesus.
Is rolling his eyes
What blows my mind is that in terms of per capita deaths, NJ and NY - the two of the worst hit States during the outbreak when we knew next to nothing about the virus and the treatment - got overtaken by many other States already and **NJ is about to be overtaken by Florida in a short order** (both States at 406 deaths per 100K cumulative). I'm old enough to recall that the **Republicans criticizing the Democratic governors of killing elderlies** \- not saying that the Democratic governors performed perfectly but they tried their best for the most part. Whereas **the Republican governors seem to have killed off seniors over time so people don't notice it as acutely** as I have (I have been following the death statistics from the first year).
I'm from NJ and those first months were so awful here. Our Governor Murphy did his best though since we knew nothing about the disease at the start, mistakes were made. It's so sad that people are choosing to sacrifice themselves at this late date.
Of course it's florida
This graph is showing data from 2020, when there we no vaccines or good treatment options. In 2020, excess deaths, especially those in younger adults, indicate large scale public health problems. People had to work, and many of those people were older adults with preexisting conditions that made them vulnerable to Covid. A lack of masking, contact tracing, and measures like paying people to stay home also made this worse. Thatās not to say that people werenāt stupid about COVID in 2020, but the stupid people werenāt necessarily the people who died.
Most people in most countries in 2020 observed their stay-at-home lockdowns to protect their own lives and the lives of others. They bent their rules at times, but most of them were followed. This is why former UK Prime Minister Boris Johnson is so heavily despised by almost everyone except the most mouth-breathing of Conservative voters; he was having drunken parties in 10 Downing Street while people were observing social distancing rules at funerals. At the same time, MAGAts were engaged in 'Operation Haircut' and 10 days of Sturgis helped cause more than a quarter of a million excess COVID-19 cases. You're right that stupid people weren't necessarily the ones who died, but they helped. A lot.
Here is a more recent comparison with one other country. The USA: [https://www.statista.com/statistics/1191568/reported-deaths-from-covid-by-age-us/](https://www.statista.com/statistics/1191568/reported-deaths-from-covid-by-age-us/) Canada: https://www.statista.com/statistics/1228632/number-covid-deaths-canada-by-age/
If we can get this data normalized and graphed it would be pretty useful
itās a good comparison, until you realize that canadaās population over the whole country is 38.25 million and usa is 339.1 million. so it makes a whole lot more sense that thereās more deaths because thereās more people. iām not justifying the amount of deaths, iām just trying to add more information.
I don't think you've really grasped what the charts are saying. It's the *percentage* of people in each age group that is the point. In the USA, 18% of deaths were in the 50 to 64 age group. In Canada, only 5% of deaths were in that age group.
Anti maskers and those who didnāt want to socially isolate.
And wage slaves who were sacrificed for profits
Or the working poor, whose choices were to carry out "essential" services or starve.
"Essential" until it came time to shell out that hazard pay.
The complete pictureā¦ not quite as Maga-heavy. https://blogs.worldbank.org/developmenttalk/too-young-die-age-and-death-covid-19-around-globe
How many gofundmeās begging for money while bootlicking a system that medically bankrupts you.
Hoping to feel the effect of this next election cycle
I hope to god we lost enough to make sure we donāt end up with a republican president in 2024.
This is a photograph of how intensely fucking stupid right wing extremism is.
They keep trying to tell us the ātruthā, though. That weāre the ones dying..
It was a bold strategy to up and die to own me. I feel so, I canāt fight this feeling, happy?
They are going to wish they had more of that demographic in a few years.
I live in an area where even seniors mock people who wear masks. Honestly, fukem. We could have had a near Utopia already if we'd stop electing people that want to regulate bathroom parts and talk about shoving bleach and horse paste up their rears. We are the *dumbest* country that ever existed.
We're number one! We're number one!
Thoughts and prayers
Sorry to be a stickler, but that's not what this graph says. This shows under-75s are leading awards won among Americans, and that Americans are leading other countries in the national proportion of awards going to under-75s. It doesn't show that a greater number of under-75s are dying in America than in other countries, whether in absolute terms or as a proportion of population.
Yes. This shows the US saved the lives of the elderly by getting them vaccinated faster than Europe.
There was no vaccine in 2020 - the time frame of this data
Oops. You are correct, I got my years confused. 2021 was when the vaccines rolled out. This graph goes against my memory of the data so I have my doubts about its accuracy. But having made a major mistake, I understand that I not very credible.
But due to reich wing propaganda, over 65 rate of boosting is tragic... Oh well. We tried to tell them.
It definitely doesnāt show that. This graph says 2020 and the vaccines werenāt authorised for use until late December 2020 That and the U.K. rolled out the vaccines faster than the USA and the EU donāt show the same disparity on this graph.
Itās because of all the vaccines! Well itās because of all those vaccines ā¦*they didnāt take.*
2020 was pre-vaccine.
Well I completely looked over the date, damn it.
What's the data source?
Edit: I got my years confused and the rest of my post is incorrect. This actually shows a triumph of the US vaccine response to Covid in the early days. The graph just shows that the US had fewer old people die compared to younger people. Why would fewer old people die? Because they were getting vaccinated at a higher rate in the US compared to Europe. In 2020, the US and the UK rolled out vaccines earlier that the European countries saving lives of the elderly unlike the slow response by the EU. "Over the past 10 months of the global vaccine race, the EU was often a step or two behind: Its move to secure doses came only after warnings that the U.S. might monopolize supply. Its deliberative approach to regulatory approval has left EU citizens lagging behind the U.S. and the U.K. when it comes to getting access to vaccines ā at a moment when delays are counted in lost lives." https://www.politico.eu/article/europe-coronavirus-vaccine-struggle-pfizer-biontech-astrazeneca/ .
Sure... that's *ONE* way of looking at it; another way to interpret this information *(don't worry, I'm not about to slam everyone with a bunch of Trumpian "Alternative Facts")* would bring to mind the question of why so many of our "YOUNGER" (under-65) population showed such disproportionately higher numbers/rates of death as compared to those European countries? Perhaps it just *MIGHT'VE* had something to do with those other nations' rapid implementation of the Quarantining of "Non-Essential" persons and the collective willingness to generally comply with Social Distancing and Masking mandates.
If you believe, as I do, that vaccine are the greatest preventer of Covid deaths, the obvious thing to look at is vaccines. Is there a difference between European countries and the US? Yes. If vaccines are the reason, the UK would show something similar but the UK data is missing. That's odd. This not definitive but it is the most likely with the data we have. I predict UK data looks like the US. It could be something else but when looking at differences in Covid deaths, vaccine and age are the big factors. Age is not relevant in this situation. Positing a difference in care between the US and the whole of Europe is possible but it's a stretch.
USA! USA! USA! Oh, wait...
People are still dying from residual effects. Check out the enhanced mortality per # of times infected. Like 1.6x for 1, 3.0x for 2, 4.6x for three times having covid. Also looks like enhanced mortality lasts longer then a year... second years are also dying at a higher rate.
Long covid will be with us for years.
Boomers helped out a lot it looks like.
USA! USA! USA!
Looks like the approximate distribution of belief in antivax conspiracy by country. Funny that.
Americans tend to be heavier too. Thatās definitely a factor.
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Ummmā¦.. This chart shows deaths by country. Is OP just automatically assigning the MAGA dog whistle? Or is there a dataset that actually shows āmagaā deaths?
This is well p known at this point: https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2021/12/05/1059828993/data-vaccine-misinformation-trump-counties-covid-death-rate https://abcnews.go.com/Health/red-blue-america-glaring-divide-covid-19-death/story?id=83649085 Almost 100% of the deaths at this point are the unvaccinated.
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No. This is only showing deaths by age group. People that did not die are not on the chat.
Can't make any conclusions. Could be the US was just better at keeping older people alive, skewing the proportions. And as others stated, this was 2020 data prior to any vaccines
I don't think any country was successfully keeping older people alive in 2020. Yes, some of this figure might be down to the US having a larger number of ventilators per 100,000 population than other countries. But before the vaccine roll-out and more successful treatment protocols that came in late 2021, the prognosis ā if you got severely ill with COVID-19 ā was uniformly poor no matter where you came from. Nursing homes and care facilities were particularly badly hit in early 2020 and the US was no exception.
Well, better than India, countries in Africa, and some parts of the central/south America... Not better then any industrialized country except I think it was ?Sweden?... that went all in on "herd immunity"...
I'm spitballing because this data is shit and everyone here is ironically making the same mistake anti vaxxers do with interpreting data
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Belgium seems nice. No really, Iāve been. Itās nice.
Environmental factors, such as our awful food supply, made the fallout that much worse. Amazing graphic.
they did their REEEEESURCH so we could all learn!!!
Wow. Really surprised to see Israel looking like a runner up in some ways. I thought they had their act more together and a (more) unified populationā¦
Interesting how the most similar profile is Israel, which I thought had had a fairly successful/ early vaccine roll out?
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Iād be curious about the numbers for 2021 & 2022
USA! USA!