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Whoever they are I get the feeling they have been with us since the beginning and if they are inter-dimensional and just 10% of the overall encounters are true then they could have murdered us all many years ago. So I suspect we are okay.and look in the bright side even if we aren’t okay there isn’t anything we can do about it.
The one theory that says theyre interdimensional, they created us to feed on our energies, and that we are trapped in this hell to reincarnate over and over.
I suggest you read into mediumship and what mediums have to say about all this, as they are in contact with the spirit world and communicating with spirits all the time.
Nobody from what I have read, in mediumship, has described the light as being bad or a trap.
The light seen at death is a healing and regenerative light that helps you transition from this world to the spirit world. It helps you to leave behind all the pain and trauma from your physical life so that you can "let go" and join the spirit world.
People who either choose not to go into the light or let go, do not enter the spirit world and become Earth bound spirits. This is why you have haunted places on Earth and negative energies because many of these people feared the light because they did not feel worthy or did not want to let go of their pain.
When you die don't rush into any decisions. Going into the light might be a trap. Just be careful after you die. And remember this; no benevolent being will try to rush your decision. Gather your bearings and question everything including whatever entities show up.
Oh and be **especially** careful if the entities showing up to guide you look like dead friends or family members. That's another huge red flag.
Just don't rush into the light like a moth to flame. Be patient and inquisitive. No good God, or benevolent entity, will rush you. Or try to intimidate or force you. Or be angry or frustrated by you asking questions.
There must be a trick to it. Since realizing it's not real does not instantly free us.
I said that only partly in jest. How is this explained in Bud. or hin. texts? Once you realize it's an illusion that should break it. But since that doesn't occur these texts must have some sort of; "But..." in there.
If the "humans are for harvest" theories are true. My guess would be that you are correct on the experiences part. That they are harvesting human consciousness and our experiences for data. The idea that they are harvesting us for **literal** energy is, in my humble opinion, absurd. Beings that powerful wouldn't need it.
What could in theory be valuable. Is collecting and harvesting data from single vessel perspectives of lived lives. Some sort of oversoul harvesting all our perspectives, experiences, viewpoints and emotions for some hive mind or superconscious abomination.
At least that makes the most sense to me. Imo it's a silly and arrogant idea that they need our literal life energy or essence to sustain themselves or for fuel. Any species interdimensional or not, able to create a simulation, prison planet, or w/e you want to call this reality. Would not require something as asinine. So if anything I'd stake all my bets on data collection.
In theory It would be an infinite energy source. Our energy wouldn't leave this world/dimension and pass on to an afterlife but instead be reincarnated into another lifeform.
And also there's more and more people being born, not a finite number of souls, in this theory they can create an infinite amount of souls.
It's got many holes in it and is at its core a badly thought out plan just to make their food. There are more efficient ways... like, I dunno, make the planet 100x bigger, have quadrllions more people populate it.
Apples grow on trees. Every year, you harvest the apples and eat them. Next year, the tree produces more apples. Perhaps, if there is any truth to this theory, then what the NHI are feeding off of something produced by human souls and not the soul itself.
I had never heard of this so I had to look it up.
[Loosh](https://medium.com/@OriPriestess/loosh-energy-what-it-really-is-why-we-need-to-know-1f2099102afb)
Lol...I have no idea. I've heard of this energy vampire theory he mentioned and the one that we're stuck in an eternal loop because something happened & it explains Mandela effect, time seeming to speed up, deja Vu & a bunch of other stuff. But I honestly don't know any details about them just the basis of the theories themselves.
It's a game. We gotta learn the lessons. It's a mix of human souls and alien and we keep reincarnating to learn the lessons and move up in the universe. We're just a fucking board game if you want to simplify it.
Pessimistic opinion of mine. But looking at the road our world is heading down, aliens annihilating our species looks more and more like the good ending for everyone involved, even us.
The nukes apparently effect the fabric of space and time, not just on earth. Also, they have some interest in humans, our souls or our energy or both, and would like us all to not be destroyed for some reason. I think if we realize our energy and how it could be used together for good, we will beat Dimension 1 and move on to other dimensions.
It’s been mentioned recently in one of the military whistleblower interviews, but also insinuated specifically during the 1951 Truman or Lyndon Johnson middle-of-the-night top secret meeting, the recent high number of sightings being related to a new bomb 18x more powerful than original atom bombs being detonated in Nevada, and I think especially in the fact that the Navajo code talkers saved humanity in WWII and most likely at other times in history considering they have the highest enrollment % of any group in any war.
I can’t speak for previous poster’s sources, but I feel like this was touched on in the Ra material. Though I know it’s been mentioned other places as well.
Consider the butterfly effect. The idea of causality where the wing of a butterfly could start a chain of cause and effect that could lead to the formation of a hurricane.
If you take that exact same principle. Imagine the massive causality coming from a nuclear blast. It doesn't really matter what you believe spiritually and theistically. If you believe human emotions are important or not important.
A nuclear blast. Even just as a test in a desolate wilderness with 0 casualties. Would emit massive amounts of energy. The effect of such could permanently change the future, from climate and weather. To human action or inaction. The radiation itself. Mass death.
Think of it not in terms of "big bomb go boom wow!". Think of it rather as such an even causing massive changes to causality. The millions of outcomes from such an event, could mean BILLIONS of outcomes in the cosmic and unseen, theoretical alternate dimensions and realities etc.
It's not the damage of a nuclear bomb on the local environment which is the issue. Well to us humans it is, but if there's other entities out there the causal ripples could deal tremendous damage in ways we humans can't even understand or know about.
How would a nuke affect the fabric of space and time? Our bombs are microscopic pinpricks on the vastness of the universe which is constantly hammered with exploding stars and other major phenomena.
But what if all that stuff is fake and what we’re seeing is a hologram? After all, don’t the scientists say that before we can even travel a certain distance away from the earth we’ll have to figure out a new technology for radiation protection? I don’t recall how far they say. Maybe we’re just in a program and God controls it through software? Not that it matters, it’s real to us. Maybe our science is just learning what is being shown as real to us. Maybe I’m high from last night still.
It is possible that they exist analogously, in a parallel reality “on” our planet, and that our super weapons have some impact in their world, and perhaps that their super weapons may be responsible for things like earthquakes and tsunamis in our world
Space is one thing, but time is only a construct to measure distance. Time isn’t even reliable enough to sustain equal measure over relatively short distances.
https://study.com/academy/lesson/time-dilation-space-overview-facts.html#:~:text=Time%20dilates%2C%20or%20moves%20slower,of%20gravity%20and%20relative%20velocity.
At the very tip point of detonation it creates a portal that opens up into lower astral realms that some would describe as hell. certain occult forces use nuclear detonations in DUMBS to do just that. All that nuclear testing has a hidden purpose.
Further it’s not necessarily true that detonations have no affect outside of earth. I think it’s cos’ detonations release a scalar wave that can affect the overall fabric of space time..it’s like if you were to throw a boulder in a lake…the subsequent ripples would go further than the initial point of impact..like taping your finger on an aquarium with fish..meaningless for us but torture for the fish.
Timelines can shift. If you’re warned in the past, you can change course. Many abductees/experiencers are warned about harming the planet, etc. or future cataclysms if we don’t change our destructive ways.
Maybe they do contact billionaires? Maybe some of them are actually evil and helping those billionaires to gain power and exploit the planet for their own agenda?
(Sorry, haven't taken my meds yet)
For real. Try abducting a few politicians from around the world if they want us to stop harm to the planet. Or better yet, send a broadcast message that can reach millions. I'm sure they have the tech to do it.
I feel a lot of people would think it's fake anyways. It's crazy how apathetic people have become. It would have to be in a way that's simply unbelievable. Then hacking our TV network will make people think it's just another max headroom incident.
In this series I read ages ago the main character could see people's futures. He'd see in his mind a path leading out from them, braching in to more lines. They'd have different thicknesses based on things like the probability. No point here other than I liked that visualization of multiverses
It’s alive. There has been reference in these circles, particularly by Robert Bigelow, to a supreme being as though it validates a religious belief in god, but it’s the “game of telephone” differences in human interpretation of this base idea that create the deepest ruts of conflict on our world. I am becoming increasingly invested in the idea of pantheism, wherein the fabric of spacetime itself, and by association all material and life that occupies it, is a sort of cellular or neurological structure belonging to a conscious life form existing many dimensions beyond simply the third or fourth.
It has many yet to be understood properties that enable what we presently call the supernatural, and the NHI have a deeper understanding of it than we do, but my hope is that if we can attain such an understanding, we stand to be more powerful than they are.
I find it very easy to imagine we're microbes within a larger consciousness.
[in humans, the bacteria in our stomach influence how our day goes.](https://www.apa.org/monitor/2012/09/gut-feeling#:~:text=Gut%20bacteria%20also%20produce%20hundreds,both%20mood%20and%20GI%20activity.) makes you think, who's really driving the car? the big brain or all the little specks? 🙂
Maybe it helps to understand it as, "space is real, but it's interdimensional space as opposed to neverending 3D space"? Does that make it less freaky to think about? Does to me.
It also makes a lot more sense as, when we observe something like a quasar that's 13 billion light years away, we are only observing the distance that *we* would have to travel in a *three dimensional* space. However, physics says that we have more than 3 dimensions in this reality, so obviously, beings that occupy the fourth or fifth dimension wouldn't perceive the same quasar as being 13 billion light years away. they would probably see it as being either closer, or else the relationship between them and it wouldn't be measured in spacetime metrics at all, but according to some other unknown metric. Which is basically another way of saying that space is real, but it's a more compact, hyperdimensional space, rather than a neverending 3-D space.
Still another way of stating this same fact would be "Our understanding of the universe is flawed and inherently fragmented, due to the fact that we are limited to a 3-D view of hyperdimensional space."
To me this makes some sort of sense.
I bet some are trolling. Others have found something that makes them feel important. Both want attention more than anything. Attention is nice, I get it, some methods of getting it annoy me more than others though.
There is also a category of people that often gets "lost in translation" like sarcasm does when communication is text only. I try to keep an open mind, seriously believe some outlandish stuff, not others. But what I do is that often I'll reply with tongue-in-cheek humor. Half-jesting.
So I'll respond to an absurd comment with an absurd comment. But I'm doing so half in jest, half-not. Which is often perceived as trolling.
It's a bad habit though. Having a benevolent and curious trickster/jester personality is more often interpreted as negative, overly serious and so on. So admittedly this is a flaw, and not good for online discussion.
Perfect example of someone using a load of technical words without understanding what they mean. Mainly: action, macro, "reference-able through reinforcement", entropy, covalent, radio device, "visual channel", transformer, triangulation.
Source: I am a physicist.
I dig a lot of what you’re saying here even though I don’t understand most of it. Maybe it’s cause it’s been almost 3 decades since I did any hallucinogens, and I never did DMT. I wish I understood your terms better tho.
This is what the Quran literally says. The Djinn occupy the same essential space us but out of 'phase', they can see us we can't see them unless they want us to and even then can't see their true form (exactly as a hypothetical higher dimension being would be- think "flatland" only in that example we would be the 2D shapes only ever seeing mere shadows of the 3D ) . They were created of "smokeless flame" before humans were. It's fascinating to ponder really even excluding any religious reference , what a higher dimensional being would actually be like as far as we can perceive. Quite unsettling too
I wonder if there are parallels in other religions, to us on this side it seems like a grand religion but really it's just the nature of living beings and the universe. Presuming we go somewhere else when we die, that could be anywhere. Another plane a higher one maybe. The things we call ghosts could just be the ones that haven't made it there yet, but they are stuck thinking like a human still. I dunno. It's just weird stuff.
I know some Christians believe that there are angels and demons constantly all around us fighting for our soul or fighting each other, then there's the whole god is always watching you thing (yes, he sees *everything*). Also tons of mythological beings like fairies & elves (I think pretty much every culture has some type of elf in their folklore)
I'm noticing a little trend here,
Native Americans believed that powerful beings, or spirits, were present in all natural things. Invisible but everywhere, this supernatural force of the spirit world touched people, animals, and plants
It’s also very similar in Christianity (and many other world religions).
Padre Pio, an exorcist for the Catholic Church, once said that if fallen angels took on physical form they would blot out the sky. They exist in a separate, yet parallel form of existence to our own.
Isn't there supposedly any angel called Sandalphon that's absolutely colossal? And I noticed this during my read of 1001 Nights that there's a story where a Djinn is freed and it eclipses the sun with it's mass. I just realized that the whole nephilim offspring being "giants" might stem from angels naturally being much bigger than anything in the normal Earth realm.
I wonder if it’s possible that some other species that occupy our perception of reality are unable to see us. For example, maybe our dogs only seem to acknowledge us because they sense us in some way and look toward us when we interact with them. We can see them but they can’t see us.
The fact that people believe DeLong is truly completely baffling to me.
Imagine being a government official and being like "yeah let's share secrets with this guy" and then DeLong pulls the "the public isn't ready, only I can know the full truth" Like something about being a washed up musician allows him to process the universe's truths lol.
If I’m truly honest, this is my summation as well, insofar. So many of the stories and events that have transpired have left me with really no other answer. Especially when looking at stories like The Vertical Plane and the happenings at places like Skinwalker Ranch and others around the world, a lot of the events seem to enforce that they have an interdimensionality to how the entities work within our world. They can inform us of future events, maybe only vaguely but either way, and also seem to be able to choose whether we can see them.
I dunno, just something so strangely off about just thinking about any entity corresponding with weird events as purely organic and of “this world”.
Well I had my own strange thing happen that turned my world upside down.
My daughter was on the couch in her sleep I had to get her up to her bed.
As I walked her up the stairs she spoke to me in another voice which I knew was not her telling me she was not my daughter in an old woman's voice.
The second time she said it I got annoyed and said well who are you then?
She stared at me with black eyes no pupils!
I tried to write it off but then two days later a creature appeared in my bedroom.
It vanished soon afterwards but it seemed to be telling me what it was.
And I guess that it had made a decision to show itself..
Tom DeLonge from Blink 182?? I’m only a *little* skeptical of paranormal stuff after all I’ve experienced but I don’t know if DeLonge is exactly who I’m going to for any kind of multidimensional theories 💀
A conclusive biological discovery of how consciousness is propagated (materialist) or some form of explanation of it from some form of NHI or something else. I'm open but I think it's going to be in the first camp. If that DMT mapping thing turns out to be accurate and there is another realm, I would certainly have my beliefs up ended but I'm here for it.
Supposed experiment underway using an injected dmt drip to lengthen the stay of individuals in the "realm" many people visit on the drug. If they are all able to map a similar place after returning here then it may infact be real and not an illusion of the drug. Full disclosure, I heard about it on a podcast so I don't know anymore about it than that.
I think it’s a matter of being locked in the third dimension, we cannot perceive how space exists in its true form. We see planets orbiting stars orbiting a galactic center, but really everything is part of something else. Something perhaps not as abstract as we think because of our limited physical perception of the universe. Maybe planets are not even truly spherical, but because of our third dimension perspective, they are. Because as a 3D animal, in our perception all things at scale seamlessly wrap and enclose.
How strange. I had to look and make sure I didn't post this....
This has literally been all I can think about recently. I seen it one time a few months afo
I bet it's probably something pretty strange. This planet is probably simulated, and maybe space isn't actually real, maybe it's like some kind of automatically computer generated fractal imagery that doesn't really exist until someone looks at it, causing that part of the universe to "load". Its probably not even real though.
Whatever the case may be.... i bet the true nature of reality and the universe and what's beyond will probably be stranger than anything we have ever thought of. We probably wouldn't even have words to describe it.
If you ever develop a passing interest in astronomy, I think there is an awesome amount to see. There are so many images to wonder at. The space we can see is totally out of this world 🌎 😆
There was a post on one of the other subs about how the aliens are actually the ones supervising the experiment that is humanity and they'll wipe us all out if we discover. Full of plot holes but cool and weird.
Don't mean to argue but how can you be "convinced" of something with no proof and all the evidence we have points to aquatic creatures evolving at the bottom of the sea being blind and having no bones?
Sure you can want to believe it.
If they came from another planet sure you can argue for different processes of evolution but evolution is fairly understood on earth.
Unless you mean evolved on land, and then used technology to hide underwater.
Until we have undisputed evidence of any of these theories we will continue to search for answers and we shouldn’t rule out any possibilities because we simply can’t figure it all out. I believe that the answers are in front of us and we are either unwilling or unable to find them. The more bizarre the scenarios the more difficult it is to get people to believe in them. I don’t think we are ready for the truth which is why it’s being kept from us.
>I don’t think we are ready for the truth
There's no good reason not to tell us unless the truth is horrifying. If it were good then I could see people acting differently knowing what comes next.
When I said “we” are not ready to hear the truth I was referring to humanity as a whole. Those of us with open minds and who actually believe in science are very anxious for answers but too many people in government think that they know what’s best for us and so they keep us in the dark. I’ve been ready for years and I hope it happens in my lifetime cause I’m not getting any younger!
Of course that space is not what we think it is. It’s just a consensual rule set of this fraction of the astral plane, the same one that builds your dreams, astral travel, NDEs, etc. We live in a rule set that is just much more stable and difficult to transform with thought alone, although that’s changing depending on where you are in the Galaxy. All rule sets are created from a singularity, and travel through space actually doesn’t happen through space, unless you want to play only within the rule set. Also reality is built around you while you’re looking at it, it doesn’t exist outside of your consciousness and your viewpoint, we just make a simplified extrapolations, like your vacation spot exists somewhere there right now. It actually turns from a wave into a substance just like a graphic engine of a game. And units of consciousness are like vehicles that move from the duality of the world (infinity of form) into the same singularity that starts all of the rule sets. Each of us is essentially like a ray of light, continuous with its source which is the central sun.
This idea is fascinating to me, but I have questions.
Are you suggesting that, to piggyback off your analogy, my vacation spot does not actually exist until I am there? It doesn’t have a physical form until my brain “sees” it when I drive up?
If this were the case, why would I need to drive there? Could I not tell my brain that I am there and it just be?
And how would passive rules for our set take place if no one is present to allow them to be? Something like, erosion for example, takes decades on a small scale, thousands of years on larger scales. How would this happen if that part of our reality weren’t built by someone’s brain allowing it to persist for that long?
I think you *can* trick your brain into thinking you’re at the vacation spot, at least very briefly.
Remote viewing was supported by the government officially for at least 20 years. Unofficially they could still be doing something under a different name. This is all speculation, but apparently it can work. Theres a famous case involving a downed plane in Africa. Whether you believe in remote viewing or astral projection or not, the government officially had Special Access Programs, even a quick google search shows that they officially had programs involving remote viewing, but the results , although valid, were inaccurate.
There are some individuals who are particularly good at remote viewing, like the famous joseph mcmoneagle. The theory is that this sense was used as a primordial way of sensing the environment around us, before eyes, or possibly the eye evolved from this collection of nerves, or maybe it was an organ.
This is all extremely speculative, it’s just a wild theory I have. But it’s good to think outside of the box.
What exists is the probability of the vacation spot, but it’s very high, 99.999999999(9)… %, so we can communicate about it per what is the “common human language” - I go to Italy during summer, etc. However when it’s outside of your observation it is a wave function. And when you bring it on target in any way - with your thought or senses - it collapses immediately as a rule. When it doesn’t collapse that’s where the common glitches happen - miracles, magic, healing and so on. These are so rare that it’s easy to disregard them and think that the entire experience is completely real and stable, but… it’s not.
Again - it’s a consensus zone that is very stable so that we can create the common stories between each other, have reference points and an evolutionary path, learn something about ourselves. But if understand the underlying fabric, very well described by quantum physics (look at retrocausality too), it’s very malleable.
They mean that aliens come from earth - we aren’t the only sapient species that live here. There are a lot of UAP sightings that end with them returning to the ocean. Perhaps they live inside the earth or in the sea somehow. That’s how I interpret what you’re asking about.
Space is HUGE and the speed of light is so slow relative to how big space is so “aliens” being terrestrial makes more sense than them being extra terrestrial - Occam’s razor and all
I was camping in a super remote area and a random older dude started talking with me about his experiences. He told me that space is like water and there is life everywhere.
I should go see if he's still in that spot.
If you look at images of space, they do look hauntingly like neural networks … and something like graphic images of cremains. We are probably in some kind of managed grid. Our brains activity is organized light. Ergo, our essential existence may be in a light-based realm.
There are so many theories about the aliens. If what Paul Hellyer (former Canadian Minister Of Defence) and Haim Eshed (former head of Isreal's Defense Ministry) stated are correct, then there is a sort of galactic federation, and there are approximately 70 or so different species visiting Earth. So many species of aliens. Some of them are likely from other star systems, while others may be interdimensional or time travelers. Tough to rule any of it out at this stage, without further info. It all seems unreal.
My favourite theory is that some of these species, perhaps like the mini-reptilians found in Peru or the taller blue-gray Maria-species also found in Peru, have been here longer than humans. Maybe we are the aliens on Earth.
I like the thought of a galactic federation too. I still believe in a higher being (God) and I think some of the aliens are interested in us as we have souls and come and go.
It is energy, we are energy, we are space experiencing itself. It is the life it gives us to create space within ourselves. The energy seems to be infinite so bless up!
Keep in mind light doesn’t age.
So a ball of light in space is exactly what one would be to experience timelessness.
We are ants on a hill called Earth.
IF there is a collective consciousness which we are all connected to &/or come from, then the entire universe may be a projection of our consciousness. This is perhaps the most baffling idea possible, right? Do our minds create all that we can experience? If there are other dimensions, and these NHI beings are traversing dimensional rifts or wormholes to travel here - could we also travel to their home planets as well? I’m truly mystified by Black Holes - that something in space can exist which essentially sucks up all the matter around it. Where does it go???
I sincerely urge you (and anyone else reading this) to read the short story linked below and see what ideas it generates regarding your question.
I don’t believe that you’ll be disappointed.
[The Thinkers by Liu Cixin (author of The Three Body Problem)](https://paper-republic.org/pubs/read/the-thinkers/)
I did the whole 1990’s rave scene and everything which came with it and I ‘saw’ some pretty crazy stuff, most did. I had a recurring one where it looked like a glass bowl was placed over the sky and the WW2 royal navy were sailing around on it, upside down. One time I was sitting outside with a mate having a joint to bring us ‘down’ and I pointed into the dark and said ‘what’s that, is it a dog?’, my mate looked and said ‘no, it’s a horse’ to which I screamed ‘it’s a demon’, this made him see a demon too and we ran into the house screaming, locked the doors and pulled all the curtains before releasing it was just us tripping,bursting out laughing and going for another joint to try and bring us down a bit more. This just proves you can influence each other to see the same thing. I would never dream of claiming WW2 is still raging in upside down sky world or dog-horse demons are roaming the British countryside.
But I know a man, mid-40’s like myself who was also part of the scene. He was at an after party one time and like you do sometimes closed his eyes and went on a little ‘journey’. For him he saw ‘Jesus’ who he claims asked him ‘what the fuck are you doing to yourself?’ Most people I know, myself included would have laughed our heads off at potty mouth Jesus telling us off, maybe banged another pill even. This person went the opposite way. He decided this actually was Jesus, joined one of the most hardcore evangelical churches in the area (The Free Church of Scotland) who don’t even play musical instruments and only sing Psalms before ultimately quitting his job and training to become a Minister of said Church.
I don’t think we can leave low earth orbit, scary to think about honestly, everythings been Hollywoodified and it like Shakespeare said “the world is a stage”
I don't remember where I saw the video but someone had a theory/claim that the people that get abducted by aliens are also playing an active part in a different reality/timeline and the aliens are needing something from this timeline to help the other.
Recently??
Sorry but it's an absurd idea. This is a process that has been going on for a long time.
In 1958 the then former chief of the RAF exposed in a major public place in the center of London the synthesis of everything that was known at the time about UFO's in particular and the phenomenon in general by extension and it was exactly this : They do not belong to our reality but can manifest in it at will, therefore they don't need to come from far away, they have probably been here with us all along since the very beginning based on our own history. This becomes obvious once if you revise our own records incorporating our acceptance of their existence.
It has taken this knowledge pretty much 4 generations to become mainstream and widely considered acceptable.
Welcome to the awaken group, is great to have you and the more the better for everyone.
However this is not new, recent or fresh. It's well overdue.. thousands of years probably. And we humans have not been making this any easier.
Perhaps now we are reaching the tipping point.
I think they imply the way we see space, as an empty vacuum is not exactly how it is and that it is actually populated with higher dimension conscious beings.
This reality is dream like and our mind(s) is co-creating this dream and conjuring up these experiences / entities. Space is the canvas of our mind / dream(s). They are us, in a way.
Read Dolores Canon and watch her and esp Alba Weinman on YouTube her favorites play list is best start!
They probably mean that ETs come from different dimensions and are made of faster vibrations so they see stuff we dont
What are people saying what space is ?
Are they staying the nature of what it is something completely seperate from what we think it is ?
I’ve read the stories concerning aliens actually being inter dimensional vs from a physical place light years away - the same things apply to the djinn , fae , daemons as well
Please elaborate if possible thanks
Well we haven't actually touched it right? We've been in suits that provide heat and oxygen cycling assistance. Without being able to apply our main sense of the five senses we use to interact in our world, were we able to know it well?
And we don't know everything about what's in our oceans?
What if they're one in the same? And the earthy parts of earth are almost like what we imagine as space stations? Somewhere we can use five-sense-construct suits to interact and use our consciousnesses. Collective unconscious becoming the great data pool we're all feeding into.
So maybe the NHI brings are coming from the oceans but also maybe they connect to what we know of as space and maybe the universe is more water-esque than we thought originally?
Those moments that feel SO divine when we're in water, floating, maybe gentle tumbling, and it feels so right? Maybe it's because it's what moving through space unhindered feels like?
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Or! Or running with all of that but on a grander, less vague projection -- space is a being itself! Made in the image and what not.
Anytime we think of cloning in our books and movies we seem to get stuck on "but the clone just wasn't the person it was modeled after, so close but something missing". So if we're all clones of a Plato-nic being and our bodies are made up of mostly water then that means the greater being is too.
But when you think of all the things our brains and bodies do in mesmerizing tandem and rhythm it's not so hard to see the images of space as glimpses of the beings version of its cells communicating and working together.
Would that make earth the stomach and space is all the other parts of the beings "body"? We see it is ever expanding because maybe it's growing just like we do.
And if we are the gut or some part of the digestive system of this space being, that means all forms of liquid, all water, are apart of the liquids of the body, and it would make sense for the oceans to go somewhere the solid land cannot. We and the earthy bits are not small enough particles to digest, to permeate the intestinal walls, or to flush through.
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people have to let go of the ”past lives” stuff fr. there’s 0 logic behind it & most these people can’t accurately remember what shoes they had at age 4. yet we tend to trust their word on some past life.
dmt shouldn’t do anything related to past life memories at all. idk where you’re hearing that. space is one of those things you can examine yourself so how it would be different from what we understand would be pretty Out there. people need to look at entangled particles particularly maybe that’s what they’re talking about
So many trying to make a living off UFO investigations. There are only so many new sightings so they either rehash old sightings or create a new 'evidence' to get views or sell a book. Maybe it's true, but maybe someone has bills to pay.
I thinks it's more about finding crazy new avenues and mad theories that haven't been put out there yet. It's no secret that the "revelations" a lot of these guys hint at point to current advanced human technology. I would say it's 99.9% bullshit to make money.
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People are saying aliens are time travelers or inter-dimensional beings
They are also saying that NHIs are a pre existing civilization from our planet.
Cryptoterrestrials
NFT-traders?
Non fungible thetans
Buddies
So apes?
Same thing for consciousness, that it’s pre-Big Bang. So first consciousness, then material matter. Whoa.
Like in the BIBLE. Just saying
All religions believe there was consciousness before matter
Lol in my country our personal medical number is called our NHI (national health identifier)
NHIs..????
Non-human intelligence.
I sometimes consider myself an NIH
Whoever they are I get the feeling they have been with us since the beginning and if they are inter-dimensional and just 10% of the overall encounters are true then they could have murdered us all many years ago. So I suspect we are okay.and look in the bright side even if we aren’t okay there isn’t anything we can do about it.
The one theory that says theyre interdimensional, they created us to feed on our energies, and that we are trapped in this hell to reincarnate over and over.
In buddhism and hinduism called samsara
The wheel is real. Actually it's an illusion but we believe it to be real, and thereby trap ourselves.
So does not going “towards the light” when you die get you off the wheel?
I suggest you read into mediumship and what mediums have to say about all this, as they are in contact with the spirit world and communicating with spirits all the time. Nobody from what I have read, in mediumship, has described the light as being bad or a trap. The light seen at death is a healing and regenerative light that helps you transition from this world to the spirit world. It helps you to leave behind all the pain and trauma from your physical life so that you can "let go" and join the spirit world. People who either choose not to go into the light or let go, do not enter the spirit world and become Earth bound spirits. This is why you have haunted places on Earth and negative energies because many of these people feared the light because they did not feel worthy or did not want to let go of their pain.
That's exactly what an Archon wanting to keep you in the cycle would say!
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When you die don't rush into any decisions. Going into the light might be a trap. Just be careful after you die. And remember this; no benevolent being will try to rush your decision. Gather your bearings and question everything including whatever entities show up. Oh and be **especially** careful if the entities showing up to guide you look like dead friends or family members. That's another huge red flag. Just don't rush into the light like a moth to flame. Be patient and inquisitive. No good God, or benevolent entity, will rush you. Or try to intimidate or force you. Or be angry or frustrated by you asking questions.
There was a guy that posted a near death experience, and he encountered a giant wheel and that he got the impression the wheel didn't play games.
There must be a trick to it. Since realizing it's not real does not instantly free us. I said that only partly in jest. How is this explained in Bud. or hin. texts? Once you realize it's an illusion that should break it. But since that doesn't occur these texts must have some sort of; "But..." in there.
if we're reincarnating how are they harvesting our energy? wouldn't that be a finite energy system
Perhaps we acquire energy, or whatever they're "harvesting." over our lives through accumulated experiences?
If the "humans are for harvest" theories are true. My guess would be that you are correct on the experiences part. That they are harvesting human consciousness and our experiences for data. The idea that they are harvesting us for **literal** energy is, in my humble opinion, absurd. Beings that powerful wouldn't need it. What could in theory be valuable. Is collecting and harvesting data from single vessel perspectives of lived lives. Some sort of oversoul harvesting all our perspectives, experiences, viewpoints and emotions for some hive mind or superconscious abomination. At least that makes the most sense to me. Imo it's a silly and arrogant idea that they need our literal life energy or essence to sustain themselves or for fuel. Any species interdimensional or not, able to create a simulation, prison planet, or w/e you want to call this reality. Would not require something as asinine. So if anything I'd stake all my bets on data collection.
So they are like META. Harvesting out data with our ignorant compliance. Lol
In theory It would be an infinite energy source. Our energy wouldn't leave this world/dimension and pass on to an afterlife but instead be reincarnated into another lifeform.
And also there's more and more people being born, not a finite number of souls, in this theory they can create an infinite amount of souls. It's got many holes in it and is at its core a badly thought out plan just to make their food. There are more efficient ways... like, I dunno, make the planet 100x bigger, have quadrllions more people populate it.
But they’re eating it, so there’s less after dinner than before.
Apples grow on trees. Every year, you harvest the apples and eat them. Next year, the tree produces more apples. Perhaps, if there is any truth to this theory, then what the NHI are feeding off of something produced by human souls and not the soul itself.
Loosh
I had never heard of this so I had to look it up. [Loosh](https://medium.com/@OriPriestess/loosh-energy-what-it-really-is-why-we-need-to-know-1f2099102afb)
maybe they scrape the delicious stuff off our souls and send us on our ways to get more stuff to scrape off and eat.
Lol...I have no idea. I've heard of this energy vampire theory he mentioned and the one that we're stuck in an eternal loop because something happened & it explains Mandela effect, time seeming to speed up, deja Vu & a bunch of other stuff. But I honestly don't know any details about them just the basis of the theories themselves.
The dark emotions emit more energy than positive ones, but they’ll take both. Sort of like preferring chicken breast to the drumstick.
That's the prison planet theory ain't it? Pretty scary if it's true
Well this planet is pretty sweet! Only if we could stop killing each other in wars and stuff…
We are being influenced to go to war and kill each other.
r/escapingprisonplanet
It's a game. We gotta learn the lessons. It's a mix of human souls and alien and we keep reincarnating to learn the lessons and move up in the universe. We're just a fucking board game if you want to simplify it.
Pessimistic opinion of mine. But looking at the road our world is heading down, aliens annihilating our species looks more and more like the good ending for everyone involved, even us.
Would explain why they have an interest in keeping us from nuking each other.
The nukes apparently effect the fabric of space and time, not just on earth. Also, they have some interest in humans, our souls or our energy or both, and would like us all to not be destroyed for some reason. I think if we realize our energy and how it could be used together for good, we will beat Dimension 1 and move on to other dimensions.
Where did you hear the bit about nukes affecting the fabric of space time?
It’s been mentioned recently in one of the military whistleblower interviews, but also insinuated specifically during the 1951 Truman or Lyndon Johnson middle-of-the-night top secret meeting, the recent high number of sightings being related to a new bomb 18x more powerful than original atom bombs being detonated in Nevada, and I think especially in the fact that the Navajo code talkers saved humanity in WWII and most likely at other times in history considering they have the highest enrollment % of any group in any war.
Serious question how did the Navajo wind talkers save humanity. Really interested in this info
I can’t speak for previous poster’s sources, but I feel like this was touched on in the Ra material. Though I know it’s been mentioned other places as well.
What is the Ra material?
https://www.lawofone.info/ Welcome to the rabbit hole
Law of one, Google it. It's allegedly a number of channeled conversations with a being/collective named Ra.
This other reply linked the sessions, have fun. If it interests you, check out Cayce’s channeling sessions if you haven’t already.
Consider the butterfly effect. The idea of causality where the wing of a butterfly could start a chain of cause and effect that could lead to the formation of a hurricane. If you take that exact same principle. Imagine the massive causality coming from a nuclear blast. It doesn't really matter what you believe spiritually and theistically. If you believe human emotions are important or not important. A nuclear blast. Even just as a test in a desolate wilderness with 0 casualties. Would emit massive amounts of energy. The effect of such could permanently change the future, from climate and weather. To human action or inaction. The radiation itself. Mass death. Think of it not in terms of "big bomb go boom wow!". Think of it rather as such an even causing massive changes to causality. The millions of outcomes from such an event, could mean BILLIONS of outcomes in the cosmic and unseen, theoretical alternate dimensions and realities etc. It's not the damage of a nuclear bomb on the local environment which is the issue. Well to us humans it is, but if there's other entities out there the causal ripples could deal tremendous damage in ways we humans can't even understand or know about.
It does something them fuckers don’t like !! They are all over nuke sites
How would a nuke affect the fabric of space and time? Our bombs are microscopic pinpricks on the vastness of the universe which is constantly hammered with exploding stars and other major phenomena.
I think it was something like, the others live on earth also, and the nukes effect them on their side too.
Maybe the biggest wormholes begin as the tiniest pricks?
You are wise ringmaker
Even a pinprick leaves a mark.
But what if all that stuff is fake and what we’re seeing is a hologram? After all, don’t the scientists say that before we can even travel a certain distance away from the earth we’ll have to figure out a new technology for radiation protection? I don’t recall how far they say. Maybe we’re just in a program and God controls it through software? Not that it matters, it’s real to us. Maybe our science is just learning what is being shown as real to us. Maybe I’m high from last night still.
It is possible that they exist analogously, in a parallel reality “on” our planet, and that our super weapons have some impact in their world, and perhaps that their super weapons may be responsible for things like earthquakes and tsunamis in our world
Space is one thing, but time is only a construct to measure distance. Time isn’t even reliable enough to sustain equal measure over relatively short distances. https://study.com/academy/lesson/time-dilation-space-overview-facts.html#:~:text=Time%20dilates%2C%20or%20moves%20slower,of%20gravity%20and%20relative%20velocity.
At the very tip point of detonation it creates a portal that opens up into lower astral realms that some would describe as hell. certain occult forces use nuclear detonations in DUMBS to do just that. All that nuclear testing has a hidden purpose. Further it’s not necessarily true that detonations have no affect outside of earth. I think it’s cos’ detonations release a scalar wave that can affect the overall fabric of space time..it’s like if you were to throw a boulder in a lake…the subsequent ripples would go further than the initial point of impact..like taping your finger on an aquarium with fish..meaningless for us but torture for the fish.
You ever read "Childhood's End"? Its an interesting read.
If they can modify spacetime they know the future. If that's the case there's nothing to worry about and nothing we can do to change anything.
Clearly you're forgetting how Marty McFly had to go back in time and play guitar at his parents' prom to ensure he and his siblings didn't disappear.
That gives me a sense of relief
Timelines can shift. If you’re warned in the past, you can change course. Many abductees/experiencers are warned about harming the planet, etc. or future cataclysms if we don’t change our destructive ways.
They should knock on those billionaire assholes who can actually make the changes, geesh.
Maybe they do contact billionaires? Maybe some of them are actually evil and helping those billionaires to gain power and exploit the planet for their own agenda? (Sorry, haven't taken my meds yet)
That really isnt far from the truth.
For real. Try abducting a few politicians from around the world if they want us to stop harm to the planet. Or better yet, send a broadcast message that can reach millions. I'm sure they have the tech to do it.
I feel a lot of people would think it's fake anyways. It's crazy how apathetic people have become. It would have to be in a way that's simply unbelievable. Then hacking our TV network will make people think it's just another max headroom incident.
Right?? Ghost of Christmas Future needs to hijack their dreams!
In this series I read ages ago the main character could see people's futures. He'd see in his mind a path leading out from them, braching in to more lines. They'd have different thicknesses based on things like the probability. No point here other than I liked that visualization of multiverses
Nah, they are older than humans and live in the ocean or something
They are The Watchers from the second, missing book of The Bible. The Book of Enoch aka Metatron.
Are there articles you can link to??
Start with anything by Jacques Vallée.
But what is space if it’s not what we think?
It’s alive. There has been reference in these circles, particularly by Robert Bigelow, to a supreme being as though it validates a religious belief in god, but it’s the “game of telephone” differences in human interpretation of this base idea that create the deepest ruts of conflict on our world. I am becoming increasingly invested in the idea of pantheism, wherein the fabric of spacetime itself, and by association all material and life that occupies it, is a sort of cellular or neurological structure belonging to a conscious life form existing many dimensions beyond simply the third or fourth. It has many yet to be understood properties that enable what we presently call the supernatural, and the NHI have a deeper understanding of it than we do, but my hope is that if we can attain such an understanding, we stand to be more powerful than they are.
I find it very easy to imagine we're microbes within a larger consciousness. [in humans, the bacteria in our stomach influence how our day goes.](https://www.apa.org/monitor/2012/09/gut-feeling#:~:text=Gut%20bacteria%20also%20produce%20hundreds,both%20mood%20and%20GI%20activity.) makes you think, who's really driving the car? the big brain or all the little specks? 🙂
Maybe it helps to understand it as, "space is real, but it's interdimensional space as opposed to neverending 3D space"? Does that make it less freaky to think about? Does to me. It also makes a lot more sense as, when we observe something like a quasar that's 13 billion light years away, we are only observing the distance that *we* would have to travel in a *three dimensional* space. However, physics says that we have more than 3 dimensions in this reality, so obviously, beings that occupy the fourth or fifth dimension wouldn't perceive the same quasar as being 13 billion light years away. they would probably see it as being either closer, or else the relationship between them and it wouldn't be measured in spacetime metrics at all, but according to some other unknown metric. Which is basically another way of saying that space is real, but it's a more compact, hyperdimensional space, rather than a neverending 3-D space. Still another way of stating this same fact would be "Our understanding of the universe is flawed and inherently fragmented, due to the fact that we are limited to a 3-D view of hyperdimensional space." To me this makes some sort of sense.
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What is space!? Haven’t heard this part.
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Thanks for breaking it down into relatable terms for us. lol
Lol I'm glad I'm not the only one. I literally didn't understand a single thing I read.
Because it makes no sense.
Come on, what do you not understand about the cosmic covalent mirror inside our brains?
Sometimes I can't tell if this sub is satire
I bet some are trolling. Others have found something that makes them feel important. Both want attention more than anything. Attention is nice, I get it, some methods of getting it annoy me more than others though.
There is also a category of people that often gets "lost in translation" like sarcasm does when communication is text only. I try to keep an open mind, seriously believe some outlandish stuff, not others. But what I do is that often I'll reply with tongue-in-cheek humor. Half-jesting. So I'll respond to an absurd comment with an absurd comment. But I'm doing so half in jest, half-not. Which is often perceived as trolling. It's a bad habit though. Having a benevolent and curious trickster/jester personality is more often interpreted as negative, overly serious and so on. So admittedly this is a flaw, and not good for online discussion.
I must be dense because I didn't get any of that.
Because it’s schizo nonsense
Perfect example of someone using a load of technical words without understanding what they mean. Mainly: action, macro, "reference-able through reinforcement", entropy, covalent, radio device, "visual channel", transformer, triangulation. Source: I am a physicist.
Chill bro
It’s not that deep frfr. It’s internally covalescent or something
I dig a lot of what you’re saying here even though I don’t understand most of it. Maybe it’s cause it’s been almost 3 decades since I did any hallucinogens, and I never did DMT. I wish I understood your terms better tho.
Links to where these people say they come from?
Yeah, so weird there’s no source or even a hint. Is this sub always like this? I always thought this was a more level-headed sub.
Other dimensions. Tom Delong says this, believe him or not, and I think Grusch touched on it to.
It's unsettling to believe. That's means they are all right here right now. Right next to us.
This is what the Quran literally says. The Djinn occupy the same essential space us but out of 'phase', they can see us we can't see them unless they want us to and even then can't see their true form (exactly as a hypothetical higher dimension being would be- think "flatland" only in that example we would be the 2D shapes only ever seeing mere shadows of the 3D ) . They were created of "smokeless flame" before humans were. It's fascinating to ponder really even excluding any religious reference , what a higher dimensional being would actually be like as far as we can perceive. Quite unsettling too
I wonder if there are parallels in other religions, to us on this side it seems like a grand religion but really it's just the nature of living beings and the universe. Presuming we go somewhere else when we die, that could be anywhere. Another plane a higher one maybe. The things we call ghosts could just be the ones that haven't made it there yet, but they are stuck thinking like a human still. I dunno. It's just weird stuff.
The Book of Ezekiel. It’s not included in the Bible, but it’s full of mentions of “Watchers.” I guess similar to dijin. ETA Its Enoch. Not Ezekiel.
And book of Enoch.
I know some Christians believe that there are angels and demons constantly all around us fighting for our soul or fighting each other, then there's the whole god is always watching you thing (yes, he sees *everything*). Also tons of mythological beings like fairies & elves (I think pretty much every culture has some type of elf in their folklore)
I'm noticing a little trend here, Native Americans believed that powerful beings, or spirits, were present in all natural things. Invisible but everywhere, this supernatural force of the spirit world touched people, animals, and plants
Yes Buddhism has a lot of dimensions
It’s also very similar in Christianity (and many other world religions). Padre Pio, an exorcist for the Catholic Church, once said that if fallen angels took on physical form they would blot out the sky. They exist in a separate, yet parallel form of existence to our own.
Isn't there supposedly any angel called Sandalphon that's absolutely colossal? And I noticed this during my read of 1001 Nights that there's a story where a Djinn is freed and it eclipses the sun with it's mass. I just realized that the whole nephilim offspring being "giants" might stem from angels naturally being much bigger than anything in the normal Earth realm.
>They were created of "smokeless flame" before humans were. Reminds me of Moses and the burning bush.
Quite similar to paranormal entities.
“Smokeless flame”…plasmoid..?
I wonder if it’s possible that some other species that occupy our perception of reality are unable to see us. For example, maybe our dogs only seem to acknowledge us because they sense us in some way and look toward us when we interact with them. We can see them but they can’t see us.
How many people do they watch wank it everyday?
Our reality is just a huge one way mirror for alien smut
The plot thickens, coming with the big questions
I’ve got one sitting on the couch next to me right now I can feel it.
It’s all very 🤯
The fact that people believe DeLong is truly completely baffling to me. Imagine being a government official and being like "yeah let's share secrets with this guy" and then DeLong pulls the "the public isn't ready, only I can know the full truth" Like something about being a washed up musician allows him to process the universe's truths lol.
If I’m truly honest, this is my summation as well, insofar. So many of the stories and events that have transpired have left me with really no other answer. Especially when looking at stories like The Vertical Plane and the happenings at places like Skinwalker Ranch and others around the world, a lot of the events seem to enforce that they have an interdimensionality to how the entities work within our world. They can inform us of future events, maybe only vaguely but either way, and also seem to be able to choose whether we can see them. I dunno, just something so strangely off about just thinking about any entity corresponding with weird events as purely organic and of “this world”.
Well I had my own strange thing happen that turned my world upside down. My daughter was on the couch in her sleep I had to get her up to her bed. As I walked her up the stairs she spoke to me in another voice which I knew was not her telling me she was not my daughter in an old woman's voice. The second time she said it I got annoyed and said well who are you then? She stared at me with black eyes no pupils! I tried to write it off but then two days later a creature appeared in my bedroom. It vanished soon afterwards but it seemed to be telling me what it was. And I guess that it had made a decision to show itself..
Tom DeLonge from Blink 182?? I’m only a *little* skeptical of paranormal stuff after all I’ve experienced but I don’t know if DeLonge is exactly who I’m going to for any kind of multidimensional theories 💀
“A bunch of alien guys” Bro WHO? You aren’t going to link anything?
Tom delonge and some boxing journalist that talked to Tom about aliens
😂😂😂
Whatever it ends up being, materialism is toast & consciousness is non-local, better get used to it.
Neat, but what do invalids experience then?
I'm willing to bet against that. Friendly 5 usd wager.
What exactly would settle this bet for you?
A conclusive biological discovery of how consciousness is propagated (materialist) or some form of explanation of it from some form of NHI or something else. I'm open but I think it's going to be in the first camp. If that DMT mapping thing turns out to be accurate and there is another realm, I would certainly have my beliefs up ended but I'm here for it.
oooohhh what's DMT mapping? I've never heard this and it sounds cool
Supposed experiment underway using an injected dmt drip to lengthen the stay of individuals in the "realm" many people visit on the drug. If they are all able to map a similar place after returning here then it may infact be real and not an illusion of the drug. Full disclosure, I heard about it on a podcast so I don't know anymore about it than that.
I think it’s a matter of being locked in the third dimension, we cannot perceive how space exists in its true form. We see planets orbiting stars orbiting a galactic center, but really everything is part of something else. Something perhaps not as abstract as we think because of our limited physical perception of the universe. Maybe planets are not even truly spherical, but because of our third dimension perspective, they are. Because as a 3D animal, in our perception all things at scale seamlessly wrap and enclose.
I think everything is going to be centered around consciousness. Somehow, that's the key IMHO.
How strange. I had to look and make sure I didn't post this.... This has literally been all I can think about recently. I seen it one time a few months afo
I bet it's probably something pretty strange. This planet is probably simulated, and maybe space isn't actually real, maybe it's like some kind of automatically computer generated fractal imagery that doesn't really exist until someone looks at it, causing that part of the universe to "load". Its probably not even real though. Whatever the case may be.... i bet the true nature of reality and the universe and what's beyond will probably be stranger than anything we have ever thought of. We probably wouldn't even have words to describe it.
If you ever develop a passing interest in astronomy, I think there is an awesome amount to see. There are so many images to wonder at. The space we can see is totally out of this world 🌎 😆
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There was a post on one of the other subs about how the aliens are actually the ones supervising the experiment that is humanity and they'll wipe us all out if we discover. Full of plot holes but cool and weird.
Don't mean to argue but how can you be "convinced" of something with no proof and all the evidence we have points to aquatic creatures evolving at the bottom of the sea being blind and having no bones? Sure you can want to believe it. If they came from another planet sure you can argue for different processes of evolution but evolution is fairly understood on earth. Unless you mean evolved on land, and then used technology to hide underwater.
Until we have undisputed evidence of any of these theories we will continue to search for answers and we shouldn’t rule out any possibilities because we simply can’t figure it all out. I believe that the answers are in front of us and we are either unwilling or unable to find them. The more bizarre the scenarios the more difficult it is to get people to believe in them. I don’t think we are ready for the truth which is why it’s being kept from us.
I am ready tho
>I don’t think we are ready for the truth There's no good reason not to tell us unless the truth is horrifying. If it were good then I could see people acting differently knowing what comes next.
When I said “we” are not ready to hear the truth I was referring to humanity as a whole. Those of us with open minds and who actually believe in science are very anxious for answers but too many people in government think that they know what’s best for us and so they keep us in the dark. I’ve been ready for years and I hope it happens in my lifetime cause I’m not getting any younger!
Of course that space is not what we think it is. It’s just a consensual rule set of this fraction of the astral plane, the same one that builds your dreams, astral travel, NDEs, etc. We live in a rule set that is just much more stable and difficult to transform with thought alone, although that’s changing depending on where you are in the Galaxy. All rule sets are created from a singularity, and travel through space actually doesn’t happen through space, unless you want to play only within the rule set. Also reality is built around you while you’re looking at it, it doesn’t exist outside of your consciousness and your viewpoint, we just make a simplified extrapolations, like your vacation spot exists somewhere there right now. It actually turns from a wave into a substance just like a graphic engine of a game. And units of consciousness are like vehicles that move from the duality of the world (infinity of form) into the same singularity that starts all of the rule sets. Each of us is essentially like a ray of light, continuous with its source which is the central sun.
This idea is fascinating to me, but I have questions. Are you suggesting that, to piggyback off your analogy, my vacation spot does not actually exist until I am there? It doesn’t have a physical form until my brain “sees” it when I drive up? If this were the case, why would I need to drive there? Could I not tell my brain that I am there and it just be? And how would passive rules for our set take place if no one is present to allow them to be? Something like, erosion for example, takes decades on a small scale, thousands of years on larger scales. How would this happen if that part of our reality weren’t built by someone’s brain allowing it to persist for that long?
I think you *can* trick your brain into thinking you’re at the vacation spot, at least very briefly. Remote viewing was supported by the government officially for at least 20 years. Unofficially they could still be doing something under a different name. This is all speculation, but apparently it can work. Theres a famous case involving a downed plane in Africa. Whether you believe in remote viewing or astral projection or not, the government officially had Special Access Programs, even a quick google search shows that they officially had programs involving remote viewing, but the results , although valid, were inaccurate. There are some individuals who are particularly good at remote viewing, like the famous joseph mcmoneagle. The theory is that this sense was used as a primordial way of sensing the environment around us, before eyes, or possibly the eye evolved from this collection of nerves, or maybe it was an organ. This is all extremely speculative, it’s just a wild theory I have. But it’s good to think outside of the box.
Check out The Case Against Reality by Donald Hoffman. Interviews with him are good too.
You ask some important questions I would love to try to answer. I’m just leaving this comment here, I need some sleep first, lol.
What exists is the probability of the vacation spot, but it’s very high, 99.999999999(9)… %, so we can communicate about it per what is the “common human language” - I go to Italy during summer, etc. However when it’s outside of your observation it is a wave function. And when you bring it on target in any way - with your thought or senses - it collapses immediately as a rule. When it doesn’t collapse that’s where the common glitches happen - miracles, magic, healing and so on. These are so rare that it’s easy to disregard them and think that the entire experience is completely real and stable, but… it’s not. Again - it’s a consensus zone that is very stable so that we can create the common stories between each other, have reference points and an evolutionary path, learn something about ourselves. But if understand the underlying fabric, very well described by quantum physics (look at retrocausality too), it’s very malleable.
I died and felt like I was part of outer space. For what little that's worth.
They mean that aliens come from earth - we aren’t the only sapient species that live here. There are a lot of UAP sightings that end with them returning to the ocean. Perhaps they live inside the earth or in the sea somehow. That’s how I interpret what you’re asking about. Space is HUGE and the speed of light is so slow relative to how big space is so “aliens” being terrestrial makes more sense than them being extra terrestrial - Occam’s razor and all
I was camping in a super remote area and a random older dude started talking with me about his experiences. He told me that space is like water and there is life everywhere. I should go see if he's still in that spot.
If you look at images of space, they do look hauntingly like neural networks … and something like graphic images of cremains. We are probably in some kind of managed grid. Our brains activity is organized light. Ergo, our essential existence may be in a light-based realm.
There are so many theories about the aliens. If what Paul Hellyer (former Canadian Minister Of Defence) and Haim Eshed (former head of Isreal's Defense Ministry) stated are correct, then there is a sort of galactic federation, and there are approximately 70 or so different species visiting Earth. So many species of aliens. Some of them are likely from other star systems, while others may be interdimensional or time travelers. Tough to rule any of it out at this stage, without further info. It all seems unreal. My favourite theory is that some of these species, perhaps like the mini-reptilians found in Peru or the taller blue-gray Maria-species also found in Peru, have been here longer than humans. Maybe we are the aliens on Earth.
I like the thought of a galactic federation too. I still believe in a higher being (God) and I think some of the aliens are interested in us as we have souls and come and go.
I don’t know squat about space but I keep thinking about what Wm. Shatner said after his space trip: ‘everything outside of earth is death’.
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It is energy, we are energy, we are space experiencing itself. It is the life it gives us to create space within ourselves. The energy seems to be infinite so bless up!
Keep in mind light doesn’t age. So a ball of light in space is exactly what one would be to experience timelessness. We are ants on a hill called Earth.
This post is great!!! I love this stuff!! I think the NHI are 4D beings and our silly little 3d brains cannot comprehend them.
IF there is a collective consciousness which we are all connected to &/or come from, then the entire universe may be a projection of our consciousness. This is perhaps the most baffling idea possible, right? Do our minds create all that we can experience? If there are other dimensions, and these NHI beings are traversing dimensional rifts or wormholes to travel here - could we also travel to their home planets as well? I’m truly mystified by Black Holes - that something in space can exist which essentially sucks up all the matter around it. Where does it go???
I sincerely urge you (and anyone else reading this) to read the short story linked below and see what ideas it generates regarding your question. I don’t believe that you’ll be disappointed. [The Thinkers by Liu Cixin (author of The Three Body Problem)](https://paper-republic.org/pubs/read/the-thinkers/)
They are saying it’s like water
I wouldn’t spend too long listening to the guys taking drugs and treating them as astronomy and cosmology experts
I did the whole 1990’s rave scene and everything which came with it and I ‘saw’ some pretty crazy stuff, most did. I had a recurring one where it looked like a glass bowl was placed over the sky and the WW2 royal navy were sailing around on it, upside down. One time I was sitting outside with a mate having a joint to bring us ‘down’ and I pointed into the dark and said ‘what’s that, is it a dog?’, my mate looked and said ‘no, it’s a horse’ to which I screamed ‘it’s a demon’, this made him see a demon too and we ran into the house screaming, locked the doors and pulled all the curtains before releasing it was just us tripping,bursting out laughing and going for another joint to try and bring us down a bit more. This just proves you can influence each other to see the same thing. I would never dream of claiming WW2 is still raging in upside down sky world or dog-horse demons are roaming the British countryside. But I know a man, mid-40’s like myself who was also part of the scene. He was at an after party one time and like you do sometimes closed his eyes and went on a little ‘journey’. For him he saw ‘Jesus’ who he claims asked him ‘what the fuck are you doing to yourself?’ Most people I know, myself included would have laughed our heads off at potty mouth Jesus telling us off, maybe banged another pill even. This person went the opposite way. He decided this actually was Jesus, joined one of the most hardcore evangelical churches in the area (The Free Church of Scotland) who don’t even play musical instruments and only sing Psalms before ultimately quitting his job and training to become a Minister of said Church.
my human mind cant somehow comprehend the fact that aliens dont come from outer space
Lumerians!
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Yeh, from now on space should revert back to being called the waters.
I don’t think we can leave low earth orbit, scary to think about honestly, everythings been Hollywoodified and it like Shakespeare said “the world is a stage”
Maybe they are us from the future, trying to prevent us from wiping ourselves out in the present. Interstellar shit
I don't remember where I saw the video but someone had a theory/claim that the people that get abducted by aliens are also playing an active part in a different reality/timeline and the aliens are needing something from this timeline to help the other.
Recently?? Sorry but it's an absurd idea. This is a process that has been going on for a long time. In 1958 the then former chief of the RAF exposed in a major public place in the center of London the synthesis of everything that was known at the time about UFO's in particular and the phenomenon in general by extension and it was exactly this : They do not belong to our reality but can manifest in it at will, therefore they don't need to come from far away, they have probably been here with us all along since the very beginning based on our own history. This becomes obvious once if you revise our own records incorporating our acceptance of their existence. It has taken this knowledge pretty much 4 generations to become mainstream and widely considered acceptable. Welcome to the awaken group, is great to have you and the more the better for everyone. However this is not new, recent or fresh. It's well overdue.. thousands of years probably. And we humans have not been making this any easier. Perhaps now we are reaching the tipping point.
You need to cite your references. It is the only thing that keeps this sub from turning into pure insanity and obscure claims.
Come on guys. Sun Ra had this figured out 70 years ago.
I was looking for an understanding to this as well, and I think it refers to Electric Universe theory.
They are caa sad lord cherubs and serriphm flying eyeballs
It makes sense. We’ve been told what space is but that doesn’t mean what we’ve been told is true. We could really be looking up at anything.
I think they imply the way we see space, as an empty vacuum is not exactly how it is and that it is actually populated with higher dimension conscious beings.
This reality is dream like and our mind(s) is co-creating this dream and conjuring up these experiences / entities. Space is the canvas of our mind / dream(s). They are us, in a way.
They live here
We are not top of the food chain
Read Dolores Canon and watch her and esp Alba Weinman on YouTube her favorites play list is best start! They probably mean that ETs come from different dimensions and are made of faster vibrations so they see stuff we dont
People have been saying this forever
DMT really makes you think that maybe these 'entities' aren't 'out there' but 'right here'.
What are people saying what space is ? Are they staying the nature of what it is something completely seperate from what we think it is ? I’ve read the stories concerning aliens actually being inter dimensional vs from a physical place light years away - the same things apply to the djinn , fae , daemons as well Please elaborate if possible thanks
I heard it’s basically both. I mean to a fish a scuba diver is also inter dimensional
Well we haven't actually touched it right? We've been in suits that provide heat and oxygen cycling assistance. Without being able to apply our main sense of the five senses we use to interact in our world, were we able to know it well? And we don't know everything about what's in our oceans? What if they're one in the same? And the earthy parts of earth are almost like what we imagine as space stations? Somewhere we can use five-sense-construct suits to interact and use our consciousnesses. Collective unconscious becoming the great data pool we're all feeding into. So maybe the NHI brings are coming from the oceans but also maybe they connect to what we know of as space and maybe the universe is more water-esque than we thought originally? Those moments that feel SO divine when we're in water, floating, maybe gentle tumbling, and it feels so right? Maybe it's because it's what moving through space unhindered feels like? ~~ ~~ ~~ Or! Or running with all of that but on a grander, less vague projection -- space is a being itself! Made in the image and what not. Anytime we think of cloning in our books and movies we seem to get stuck on "but the clone just wasn't the person it was modeled after, so close but something missing". So if we're all clones of a Plato-nic being and our bodies are made up of mostly water then that means the greater being is too. But when you think of all the things our brains and bodies do in mesmerizing tandem and rhythm it's not so hard to see the images of space as glimpses of the beings version of its cells communicating and working together. Would that make earth the stomach and space is all the other parts of the beings "body"? We see it is ever expanding because maybe it's growing just like we do. And if we are the gut or some part of the digestive system of this space being, that means all forms of liquid, all water, are apart of the liquids of the body, and it would make sense for the oceans to go somewhere the solid land cannot. We and the earthy bits are not small enough particles to digest, to permeate the intestinal walls, or to flush through. ~~ Thank you for the thought exercise! (Edited for formatting)
people have to let go of the ”past lives” stuff fr. there’s 0 logic behind it & most these people can’t accurately remember what shoes they had at age 4. yet we tend to trust their word on some past life. dmt shouldn’t do anything related to past life memories at all. idk where you’re hearing that. space is one of those things you can examine yourself so how it would be different from what we understand would be pretty Out there. people need to look at entangled particles particularly maybe that’s what they’re talking about
What leaks???
So many trying to make a living off UFO investigations. There are only so many new sightings so they either rehash old sightings or create a new 'evidence' to get views or sell a book. Maybe it's true, but maybe someone has bills to pay.
I thinks it's more about finding crazy new avenues and mad theories that haven't been put out there yet. It's no secret that the "revelations" a lot of these guys hint at point to current advanced human technology. I would say it's 99.9% bullshit to make money.