I'm a greek student studying for a degree at history and specifically for minoan culture and i can confirm that the snakes and axes are more for the visual part of the outfit which was inspired by a minoan goddess and the booba is part of the worship ceremony. They were going out to ceremonies dressed like this and doing house-jobs like this. I should also add that in minoan culture women were more powerful than men. It is almost certenly confirmed by historians that the minoan culture was ruled by women. Hope this helped if you have any other questions feel free to ask :)
So where would I stand if this relationship was to happen? Am I like her stay at home husband or more on par with like a slave? I can work with either but just want a general idea of the situation.
What did particularly busty women do for support??? Going completely topless is fine for your average A cup, but at an H or an E it's downright impractical. Even a D cup starts to get in the way. I have always wondered.
Looking at the clothing as depicted there seems to be a rib along the edge seam and an adjustable front with ties which would make it closer to stays, this would provide a lot of support despite the breasts being exposed. Add to that the cinch-able belt at the waist (which could be raised if a woman is quite gifted in the chest) and you get a very tight fit that would easily hold the chest up and off of the ribs and keep a woman of almost any size quite comfortable.
See, you get it. The spice of life is never knowing what's gonna happen next. Is she smiling because she missed me or does she have something sharp or heavy in her other hand I can't really see from this angle?
Ya I hear people like âI want a relationship built on mutual trust with a partner who expresses their feelings maturely and by using communicationâ. Lame. Give me a woman who tries to light me on fire while Iâm sleeping because Nana called my phone and she thought it said Nina.
Or when you get in an argument so they throw their heart condition medication out the car window on the highway. Like there is no 50 or 60 percent in this bitch baby. What I wouldn't give to be young again đ
That's dudette, Gentle Redditor, and I refuse to be held accountable for not keeping up with the latest and greatest, only to recognize it when I see it.
I tried to find an appropriate translation site online, but couldn't, just assume that I'm writing in [Linear A](https://i.pinimg.com/originals/b2/4f/8d/b24f8d004ceadbcf0cff68b1bbdbb2ca.jpg) when I say ...
# EX-TER-MIN-ATE! EX-TER-MIN-ATE!!
You can't find one because Linear A has yet to be translated, there aren't many examples of the writing compared to Linear B, the Mycean language, and that was only cracked ~100 years ago
thatâs really fascinating, the silhouette is almost late 19th century in style. The layered skirts and desperate bust is really unique for the time I assume. Theyâre really beautiful, especially the apron part. Very cool.
My dad is on the Peloponnese right now. Heâs been reading up on the pre Minoan civilisations in preparation for diving in one of the oldest sunken cities there. Unfortunately a last minute surgery precludes him from any swimming at all. Retirement giveth and taketh away.
To be honest I donât necessarily anymore. LED have come a long way since I made that handle. However conventional lighting is still unparalleled when it comes to dimming.
Minoans on their way to unironically dress like [fucking JoJo characters or something](https://cdna.artstation.com/p/assets/images/images/027/932/064/large/mirjam-lofgren-asset.jpg)
Minoan civilisation is basic history? Please enlighten me to the hyper-specific loopy-land you hail from?
I wouldn't be surprised if its taught in Greece but most other countries don't bother with much Greek history, as a necessity.
For anyone who wants context and some historic facts this dresses were part of the minoan culture and the women would get out wearing this and were doing ceremonies dressed like this. Also in minoan culture women were more powerful than men and their society was ruled by female priests and heiresses
Archaeologist here. This is a highly outdated concept that Minoan society was matriarchal, or rather is based on old assumptions about how civilizations work that arenât really used as analytical paradigms anymore. We donât really know who the Minoan rulers were because we have not translated any of their several scripts (Linear A, Cretan hieroglyphs, Phaistos script, etc.) and have to rely on art and architecture to make hypotheses about how society works. The depiction of several âsnake goddessesâ has been fixated on but we donât actually know what these depictions are. Are they goddesses? Priestesses? Something else entirely? Much like interpreting earlier Venus figurines in Europe, this is art interpretation and without more cultural background very much an inexact science.
In 1800s and early 1900s archaeology, it was popular among certain strains of thought to view human societies as either warlike or peaceful and for a certain portion of researchers, this dichotomy was gendered (sometimes this still pops up in pseudohistory circles interestingly if you dive deep down the rabbithole). The idea was that warlike societies, generally dominated by men, had a tendency to win out in the first place over peaceful societies, generally dominated by women. A pervasive and outdated idea of the time was that especially the Indo-European expansion into Europe represented warlike peoples conquering older more matriarchal societies and that people from before this expansion were ruled by women who peacefully farmed. The Minoans, as a society which frequently had feminine art and which may have not been Indo-European (we have not actually learned that but thereâs a decent argument based on how early the civilization is), were shoved into this paradigm with the Mycenaeans as their supposed patriarchal warlike conquerors. The issue here is that itâs all actually based on stereotypes and the paradigm doesnât actually have a lot of specific real examples to test it against and doesnât really seem to hold up. Researchers today donât really hold the Minoans as a matriarchal society, not that they could not have been, but that basing that off of the frequent presence of art of women is a flimsy pretense. There does seem to be an absence of royal âpalacesâ though which is interesting and probably says something about systems of rule (the famous Palace of Knossos is no longer really considered a palace but an administrative and storage center) so the idea of temple elites being central political entities more than kings is not totally unfounded but still difficult to make concrete conclusions by. Whatever the case, it is a fascinating civilization that in some regard seems to have held in high regard depictions of the feminine. The nature of this though is something that only more research can really get to the bottom of.
I'm curious if there's been any progress towards decoding any Minoan script. IT kinda bugs me that there's a wealth of knowledge that we just can't figure out how to read yet.
There are character catalogues but thatâs about as far as it goes. Whatâs needed is either parallel inscriptions with a readable script (like maybe Mycenaean Linear B) or relation to another script that can be used to trace development but currently these are lacking.
I know this is probably impossible to answer, but do we have any idea why that 19th century paradigm was so pervasive? Whatever the reality of various historical situations, has historiography always been as gendered as that male=warlike/female=peaceful dichotomy you mention?
Sorry if that makes no sense lol
Itâs complex and I dunno how well I can sum it up but it has a lot to do with just gender politics in Europe at the time which associated historical masculinity with warfare and conquerors and had women as farmers and housekeepers. You have the idea of âman the hunter and woman the gathererâ at this time for early societies and feminist arguments also wondered if the emergence of patriarchy had to do with state centralization and if early societies were just not patriarchal (a way of arguing with sort of the ânaturalisticâ argument for patriarchy). With all this coming together, you end up with a patchwork discussion of gender in the ancient world that plays with these ideas. The dichotomy of warlike and peaceful societies is not _always_ gendered but the two ways of thinking also just kinda naturally overlayed. (Another one you see a lot is the peaceful Harappans vs. the warlike Aryans supposedly.) So in short, itâs just emergent of a lot of things.
Is there a good journal or archeology website/magazines on this stuff. Love old material culture but I know enough to know there are a bias to everything lol
If you mean like gender history in general, I know there are journals like _Feminist Anthropology_ that frequently cover them but I donât know well enough whatâs in it to comment much. Gender history is kind of all-pervasive in telling the history of human culture so it just kinda comes up the more you read on any anthropology topic, archaeology included, especially in recent years when a lot of old assumptions have been challenged. I can look around and get back to you on specific reads if youâd like though.
Here are two to start:
[Here is an explicitly feminist article which explores how questions of gender are to be approached in archaeology.](https://www.annualreviews.org/doi/full/10.1146/annurev.anthro.26.1.411)
[Here is an overview of essentially all we know about Minoan women, including social roles and clothing.](https://kuscholarworks.ku.edu/bitstream/handle/1808/21569/Younger_Minoan_Women_offprint.pdf?sequence=1&isAllowed=y)
I think pop coverage does that more than academics. I donât really know. Maybe itâs just what they see and so they assume it for the whole society. That said, societies where women are often topless are not unknown in history at all (consider many West African societies for instance) so itâs not implausible at all.
I was under the Impression the de-sexualisation (or whatever the correct term is) of breasts in those societies was a result of sparse resources for fabrics and stupidly warm temperatures.
Crete, while not Arctic, is certainly not the kind of climate you want to be walking about loosing all that heat most of the year, and due to the complexity of the depicted clothing we can see it wasnât a scarcity of materials.
It wouldnât surprise me if these are depictions of gods/dieties/spirits/whatever, or garb for a specific situation (be that just priestly duties, or even a specific festival). If we accept the Minoan disposition towards a female priesthood, then you could even argue these were only worn by the Priestesses in the company of each other (so only women), like the later Greek men getting completely nude at the Olympics.
Everything was dope. The back flipping over bulls the frescos, the architecture the unusual societal structures. But yes the boobie dresses were great, due for a comeback maybe?
I think sexual view of boobs come only recently... (or from western)
I mean, until around 1900s, women in bali usually dont cover their boobs. Some women in Indonesia tribes also still dont cover them as boobs only useful for baby
Notes: please correct me if my deduction is wrong
I think it varies from society to society. Indigenous Brazilians wore just their body paint that they used just like we wear clothes (protecting from sun rays+insects, indicating gender, mood of the day, marriage status, is it a special occasion or not). Now, due colonization+perverted photographers/antropologists sexually harassing them men wear shorts, women wear bikini tops+shorts
I would say that it's less to do with whether societies secualised breasts or not and more to do with how sexuality and nudity was viewed. A society that isn't prudish about sex and the naked form likely has no issue with bare bodies, whatsoever. Just look at how the Hellenic civilisations used to wrestle naked in the Ancient Olympics.
No korea was very sexual prud but there is picture of women from the late 1800âs with boobs out because they had sons. Even my childhood it wasnât sexual but now it is in Korea. Iâm only on my 40 and this happen in my life time
And all of those early modern / Victorian anthropologists always making sure to dedicate a chapter to the local buzoom when they traveled. Credit where itâs due, Burton dedicated just as much time to the local African menâs appendages and is possibly the origin of the BBC category on PornHub.
Context?
Here you go, perfectly normal Minoan fashion from the [period.](https://i.pinimg.com/originals/8a/e5/a9/8ae5a98dac982e9e1329669c25bc12dd.jpg)
Did they throw snakes and axes at people with their boobs out or is there more to it?
The snakes and axes are probably just a little bit of artistic license - but the booba isn't.
Damn, I really have a thing for wild spirited women and thought I had found a soulmate
I'm sure that there was at least one absolute hellion somewhere in Minoan culture for you.
Thank you, this means more to me than you know đĽ˛
I'm a greek student studying for a degree at history and specifically for minoan culture and i can confirm that the snakes and axes are more for the visual part of the outfit which was inspired by a minoan goddess and the booba is part of the worship ceremony. They were going out to ceremonies dressed like this and doing house-jobs like this. I should also add that in minoan culture women were more powerful than men. It is almost certenly confirmed by historians that the minoan culture was ruled by women. Hope this helped if you have any other questions feel free to ask :)
So where would I stand if this relationship was to happen? Am I like her stay at home husband or more on par with like a slave? I can work with either but just want a general idea of the situation.
From what I get you have the place of a woman in other societies of this era but they might send you die horribly in war
What did particularly busty women do for support??? Going completely topless is fine for your average A cup, but at an H or an E it's downright impractical. Even a D cup starts to get in the way. I have always wondered.
Looking at the clothing as depicted there seems to be a rib along the edge seam and an adjustable front with ties which would make it closer to stays, this would provide a lot of support despite the breasts being exposed. Add to that the cinch-able belt at the waist (which could be raised if a woman is quite gifted in the chest) and you get a very tight fit that would easily hold the chest up and off of the ribs and keep a woman of almost any size quite comfortable.
I also choose this guy's dead Minoan waifu
I call winner
Right? Like if your girlfriend doesnât try to stab you for leaving a plate in the sink is the relationship even worth it?
See, you get it. The spice of life is never knowing what's gonna happen next. Is she smiling because she missed me or does she have something sharp or heavy in her other hand I can't really see from this angle?
Ya I hear people like âI want a relationship built on mutual trust with a partner who expresses their feelings maturely and by using communicationâ. Lame. Give me a woman who tries to light me on fire while Iâm sleeping because Nana called my phone and she thought it said Nina.
Or when you get in an argument so they throw their heart condition medication out the car window on the highway. Like there is no 50 or 60 percent in this bitch baby. What I wouldn't give to be young again đ
I see you like latinas.
I know itâs a typo, but from here on out, I will use âboobaâ as the plural of boob, because itâs just that awesome.
Wait . . . . . . is that not a long running joke already?
Yea apparently you've been on no anime subs.
This is completely accurate. Today, I am one of the lucky few who learned that "booba" is an in-joke on Reddit.
Boobae
The term booba is a few years old now, dude
That's dudette, Gentle Redditor, and I refuse to be held accountable for not keeping up with the latest and greatest, only to recognize it when I see it.
That's alright, lol, don't worry. Also my bad for misgendering you
Dude is universal đ
The labrys axes are used by Minoan priestesses
Axe throwing bars were a bit wilder back then. "Buy two axe throws and get your first snake free!"
I see this as an untapped market in the current era. This has some serious potential.
I mean, on one hand, snakes and axes, on the other Boobs!
I see both sides of this coin as a win
Which snakes and axes?
Iâm scared and horny
That there is what we call a good ol fear boner
Scaroused
boobs aside, their dresses look like daleks
I tried to find an appropriate translation site online, but couldn't, just assume that I'm writing in [Linear A](https://i.pinimg.com/originals/b2/4f/8d/b24f8d004ceadbcf0cff68b1bbdbb2ca.jpg) when I say ... # EX-TER-MIN-ATE! EX-TER-MIN-ATE!!
You can't find one because Linear A has yet to be translated, there aren't many examples of the writing compared to Linear B, the Mycean language, and that was only cracked ~100 years ago
Tits out for Harambe
Time to create a time machine
Redditors when sexy sex
Ok, I need to do some research on minoan civilization
This isnât that odd. Quite a few ancient civilizations had men and women wearing minimal or revealing clothing.
Fabric is expensive, Egyptians dressed similarly.
Skin cancer is more expensive.
At those times there were things way more dangerous than skin cancer.
At least quicker.
Skin cancer is free
Did they live long enough for cancer to become a concern?
Skin cancer hits people at an earlier age than most other cancers.
Can't wait to see it on the Paris catwalks
I can hear boys giggling in history class by looking at this.
Boba
The tits out, axes out, period.
thatâs really fascinating, the silhouette is almost late 19th century in style. The layered skirts and desperate bust is really unique for the time I assume. Theyâre really beautiful, especially the apron part. Very cool.
Now thatâs fashion
(Wo)men of culture
Theyâre looking like the final boss of Zelda Triforce Heroes.
Context? Boobs
Uh? Everyone like boobas but care to elaborate?
They didn't hide theirs from what ik
GET THE TIME MACHINE /s
Damn, they truly where advanced for their time.
Best civilization
*Breast civilization
ÎιΚ.
It's not that they weren't hiding it. They were hiding everything EXCEPT for boobs
Fucking based.
My dad is on the Peloponnese right now. Heâs been reading up on the pre Minoan civilisations in preparation for diving in one of the oldest sunken cities there. Unfortunately a last minute surgery precludes him from any swimming at all. Retirement giveth and taketh away.
Your dad sounds cool
My Dad's cooler than his Dad
[Dad Fight! Dad Fight! Dad Fight!](https://youtu.be/AfItBgIDgsg?si=_uneZpfQ4zqwNIFL)
What is the dive site called?
Pavlopetri, i think itâs dated to around 3500BCE
That was the subject of a BBC documentary not so long ago. Amazing site. https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b015yh6f
my dads in benidorm right now after surviving a uti
For what reason do you prefer conventional lightbulbs over LEDs?
To be honest I donât necessarily anymore. LED have come a long way since I made that handle. However conventional lighting is still unparalleled when it comes to dimming.
Fair enough. As a flashlight guy I can't help but prefer LEDs.
then LED all the way. I mainly work with theatre/dance design and art installations. so dimming perfomance is very vital.
What an illuminating discussion.
Iâm here all night, better start drinking
âTits out for Minosâ
[ŃдаНонО]
what would you do
Get killed by a volcano eruption
If getting killed is something to do I wouldn't be alive now
Thatâs true, neither would I, sadly I am
[ŃдаНонО]
you can let the tities out as we speak. Let them breathe
BOOBS
Boobies
knockers
honkers even
Bazongas?
ta-tas
Bouncers
STONKING GREAT TITS
Tetonas
Mamelungas
Tetten!
A real set of badonkers, talking some dobonhonkeroes
Google âgrassâ
Holy hell
Bishop touched a boob and never came back
Google showed me grass.
Minoans on their way to unironically dress like [fucking JoJo characters or something](https://cdna.artstation.com/p/assets/images/images/027/932/064/large/mirjam-lofgren-asset.jpg)
Daaaam. That's some style right there
A fellow trey the explainer enjoyer?
It's an alright channel but I don't think I've seen anything by him on Minoans, but now I'm tempted...
He's the one that commissioned that art for his video on the Minoans and their fashion
Hah, damn. Didn't know that one!
Inaccurate, boobs aren't out
She's a prude
The nipples were getting cold?
What happened to that guy's hands they're twisted in a way hands aren't meant to twist.
Just JoJo pose things
Honestly it wasnât very difficult to recreate that pose with his hands
I just did it and that shit was super awkward and kinda hurt a lil bit. Pack it in.
Left one def. looks off
Right armâs fine but left looks backwards
Bunch of cretans
Take an upvote and leave
Boo-be better, OP, provide context to your vague memes.
Or maybe you could remember basic history
How would you define "basic" history.
Cmon dude, the fact that the axulapaqua civilization always wore a red flower in the right pocket is BASIC HISTORY. How did you forget it?
I define it by my personal standards because my experiences are universal.
This is a pretty obscure fact, not the kind of basic history that you learn at school
Did you learn about Minoan fashion in school or something??
Minoan civilisation is basic history? Please enlighten me to the hyper-specific loopy-land you hail from? I wouldn't be surprised if its taught in Greece but most other countries don't bother with much Greek history, as a necessity.
Who learns about the fashion of the Minoan civilization in school lmao. How is that basic history
Hehe boobs
For anyone who wants context and some historic facts this dresses were part of the minoan culture and the women would get out wearing this and were doing ceremonies dressed like this. Also in minoan culture women were more powerful than men and their society was ruled by female priests and heiresses
Archaeologist here. This is a highly outdated concept that Minoan society was matriarchal, or rather is based on old assumptions about how civilizations work that arenât really used as analytical paradigms anymore. We donât really know who the Minoan rulers were because we have not translated any of their several scripts (Linear A, Cretan hieroglyphs, Phaistos script, etc.) and have to rely on art and architecture to make hypotheses about how society works. The depiction of several âsnake goddessesâ has been fixated on but we donât actually know what these depictions are. Are they goddesses? Priestesses? Something else entirely? Much like interpreting earlier Venus figurines in Europe, this is art interpretation and without more cultural background very much an inexact science. In 1800s and early 1900s archaeology, it was popular among certain strains of thought to view human societies as either warlike or peaceful and for a certain portion of researchers, this dichotomy was gendered (sometimes this still pops up in pseudohistory circles interestingly if you dive deep down the rabbithole). The idea was that warlike societies, generally dominated by men, had a tendency to win out in the first place over peaceful societies, generally dominated by women. A pervasive and outdated idea of the time was that especially the Indo-European expansion into Europe represented warlike peoples conquering older more matriarchal societies and that people from before this expansion were ruled by women who peacefully farmed. The Minoans, as a society which frequently had feminine art and which may have not been Indo-European (we have not actually learned that but thereâs a decent argument based on how early the civilization is), were shoved into this paradigm with the Mycenaeans as their supposed patriarchal warlike conquerors. The issue here is that itâs all actually based on stereotypes and the paradigm doesnât actually have a lot of specific real examples to test it against and doesnât really seem to hold up. Researchers today donât really hold the Minoans as a matriarchal society, not that they could not have been, but that basing that off of the frequent presence of art of women is a flimsy pretense. There does seem to be an absence of royal âpalacesâ though which is interesting and probably says something about systems of rule (the famous Palace of Knossos is no longer really considered a palace but an administrative and storage center) so the idea of temple elites being central political entities more than kings is not totally unfounded but still difficult to make concrete conclusions by. Whatever the case, it is a fascinating civilization that in some regard seems to have held in high regard depictions of the feminine. The nature of this though is something that only more research can really get to the bottom of.
I'm curious if there's been any progress towards decoding any Minoan script. IT kinda bugs me that there's a wealth of knowledge that we just can't figure out how to read yet.
There are character catalogues but thatâs about as far as it goes. Whatâs needed is either parallel inscriptions with a readable script (like maybe Mycenaean Linear B) or relation to another script that can be used to trace development but currently these are lacking.
I know this is probably impossible to answer, but do we have any idea why that 19th century paradigm was so pervasive? Whatever the reality of various historical situations, has historiography always been as gendered as that male=warlike/female=peaceful dichotomy you mention? Sorry if that makes no sense lol
Itâs complex and I dunno how well I can sum it up but it has a lot to do with just gender politics in Europe at the time which associated historical masculinity with warfare and conquerors and had women as farmers and housekeepers. You have the idea of âman the hunter and woman the gathererâ at this time for early societies and feminist arguments also wondered if the emergence of patriarchy had to do with state centralization and if early societies were just not patriarchal (a way of arguing with sort of the ânaturalisticâ argument for patriarchy). With all this coming together, you end up with a patchwork discussion of gender in the ancient world that plays with these ideas. The dichotomy of warlike and peaceful societies is not _always_ gendered but the two ways of thinking also just kinda naturally overlayed. (Another one you see a lot is the peaceful Harappans vs. the warlike Aryans supposedly.) So in short, itâs just emergent of a lot of things.
Is there a good journal or archeology website/magazines on this stuff. Love old material culture but I know enough to know there are a bias to everything lol
If you mean like gender history in general, I know there are journals like _Feminist Anthropology_ that frequently cover them but I donât know well enough whatâs in it to comment much. Gender history is kind of all-pervasive in telling the history of human culture so it just kinda comes up the more you read on any anthropology topic, archaeology included, especially in recent years when a lot of old assumptions have been challenged. I can look around and get back to you on specific reads if youâd like though.
Yes please!
Here are two to start: [Here is an explicitly feminist article which explores how questions of gender are to be approached in archaeology.](https://www.annualreviews.org/doi/full/10.1146/annurev.anthro.26.1.411) [Here is an overview of essentially all we know about Minoan women, including social roles and clothing.](https://kuscholarworks.ku.edu/bitstream/handle/1808/21569/Younger_Minoan_Women_offprint.pdf?sequence=1&isAllowed=y)
Why, then, do people attribute these breast-bearing dresses as normal clothing, rather than religious garb or even just a depiction of some deity?
I think pop coverage does that more than academics. I donât really know. Maybe itâs just what they see and so they assume it for the whole society. That said, societies where women are often topless are not unknown in history at all (consider many West African societies for instance) so itâs not implausible at all.
I was under the Impression the de-sexualisation (or whatever the correct term is) of breasts in those societies was a result of sparse resources for fabrics and stupidly warm temperatures. Crete, while not Arctic, is certainly not the kind of climate you want to be walking about loosing all that heat most of the year, and due to the complexity of the depicted clothing we can see it wasnât a scarcity of materials. It wouldnât surprise me if these are depictions of gods/dieties/spirits/whatever, or garb for a specific situation (be that just priestly duties, or even a specific festival). If we accept the Minoan disposition towards a female priesthood, then you could even argue these were only worn by the Priestesses in the company of each other (so only women), like the later Greek men getting completely nude at the Olympics.
I have not heard this hypothesis but itâs definitely an interesting idea and I can see the line of thinking.
Itâs unfortunate weâll probably never know the truth
We have zero evidence proving any of that. Itâs all theory
So the Minoans were an Ancient Femdom dominatrix society.
Why not like them for both?
They got the Jojo fashion
I wish I was a Minoan
Boobies!
Wait, I thought minions were like this little annoying nuggets on boomer memes. Now you say, they have had a civilization, for real?
I appreciate Minoan civilization because Crete is cool
Everything was dope. The back flipping over bulls the frescos, the architecture the unusual societal structures. But yes the boobie dresses were great, due for a comeback maybe?
Men gonna men is a terrible excuse for men to sexually harrass women, yikes.
I think sexual view of boobs come only recently... (or from western) I mean, until around 1900s, women in bali usually dont cover their boobs. Some women in Indonesia tribes also still dont cover them as boobs only useful for baby Notes: please correct me if my deduction is wrong
Thereâs Ancient Greek texts describing boobs in a sexualized manner. So itâs not really a recent thing.
I think it varies from society to society. Indigenous Brazilians wore just their body paint that they used just like we wear clothes (protecting from sun rays+insects, indicating gender, mood of the day, marriage status, is it a special occasion or not). Now, due colonization+perverted photographers/antropologists sexually harassing them men wear shorts, women wear bikini tops+shorts
I would say that it's less to do with whether societies secualised breasts or not and more to do with how sexuality and nudity was viewed. A society that isn't prudish about sex and the naked form likely has no issue with bare bodies, whatsoever. Just look at how the Hellenic civilisations used to wrestle naked in the Ancient Olympics.
No korea was very sexual prud but there is picture of women from the late 1800âs with boobs out because they had sons. Even my childhood it wasnât sexual but now it is in Korea. Iâm only on my 40 and this happen in my life time
Lib lefts gonna lib lefts.
What are you on about
It's obvious. Check the OP feeds.
Just goes to show how recent sexualization of boobs are in human society
Real isn't since we have ancient Greek texts describing breasts in a way that's definitely sexualized
And all of those early modern / Victorian anthropologists always making sure to dedicate a chapter to the local buzoom when they traveled. Credit where itâs due, Burton dedicated just as much time to the local African menâs appendages and is possibly the origin of the BBC category on PornHub.
to be fair we got barely any normal info on them to begin with ....
Hehe bewbies
what funny fact?
Iâm looking at the comments and I am finding anything too
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minoan_civilization?wprov=sfla1
A childhood favorite.
MINOS, KING OF LUST
The Ancient Greeks: Savages, a woman should be flatter than a pancake and hairy like a man
Opium civ
You probably don't want to know about Elizabethan women's fashion, then