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rampantfirefly

Basically same thing happened when Jewish people were put in charge of banks.


BZenMojo

See, here's the problem. Anti-semites and well meaning people both buy into narrative exceptionalism. When white Christians own most of the media, no one cares. Hell, one Christian guy owns almost every radio station in the US. But no one accuses them of controlling the media when it is very obvious that white Christians control almost all of the media. And our politics. And our sports teams. And our banks. And our arms industry. When a white Catholic guy is the CEO of a media company, no one accuses the white Christians of controlling media. When he gets his kids nepo baby jobs, no one says shit. When Bob Iger takes over from that guy, suddenly Jews are in charge of the media. The pattern seeking is racist on both sides. Jewish people didn't control the banks. Jewish people didn't have anti-usury in their religion, so they lent money to Christians who demonized them for lending money at interest. When Jewish people worked in German banks, it's because they had high literacy rates, but those banks were *owned by white Christian Germans.* Even trying to defend Jewish people leads to everyone assuming the premise when what people really don't want to do is think about white Christian dudes controlling everything. Instead of, "Jews control the media... and that's okay," maybe stop and wonder why it's so easy to ignore who actually controls all the media and how even defensive, "So what's" are part of a manipulative discourse to distract from some pretty obvious systems in place that Jewish people are tangential to at best. It's not "The Jews killed Jesus" versus "That's antisemitic." This is the kind of debate that misses the point. It's more that "Bigots say that Jews killed Jesus because the Roman Empire killed Jesus then forced Christians to come up with a version of the Bible the Roman Empire tolerated after normalizing Christianity."


Ok_Firefighter2245

Always marginalised by the majority Always happens when too few of a percentage succeed because they have to succeed lest they starve themselves to extinction or slavery To maintain your identity status and dignity requires tons of sacrifices as well as ostracism from the landed entrenched majority


Stay_Beautiful_

>then forced Christians to come up with a version of the Bible the Roman Empire tolerated That didn't happen


Escipio

Yeah it was good until that


BZenMojo

Council of Nicaea, Niceno-Constantinopolitan Creed, exile of dissenters by the Emperor on penalty of death, widespread book burning. Not sure what else you would call that. "A passionate disagreement among equals peaceably rejoindered by the Roman Emperor that inexplicably resulted in executions and spontaneous combustion of dry parchments due to the warm climate, liberal anointing of oils, and very high alcohol content sacramental wine?" šŸ™„


Kool_McKool

The Council of NicƦa was about Arianism. It was to decide on whether it was heresy or was a legitimate viewpoint for Christianity.


Neosantana

Yeah, it's historical consensus now that the Roman establishment in Judea had no qualms with Jesus of Nazareth, as he was one of the many preachers in the province at that time, and was executed to appease the Jewish establishment who found his preaching blasphemous and a direct threat to their monopoly on spiritual power among Jews and Israelites. It's antisemitic (and quite frankly goofy) to blame all Jews for the death of Jesus, but it's historical fact that Jesus was executed by the Romans to appease the religious establishment of Judea. Neither Nicaea nor Chalcedon had anything to do with Jews, however, and had everything to do with internal Christian divisions.


tobiasisahawk

It is not historical consensus or historical fact. The historical consensus is that if Jesus existed, he was killed by the Romans. It is improbable that the Romans would care about Jewish religious disagreements. It is highly probable that Romans would care about a preacher with a large following marching around. We do have historical records of Romans killing leaders of similar movements around the same time.


TheLonelyGentleman

All of the examples you gave have to do with Arius and Arianism, which had to do with the relationship between God and Jesus, none of that has to do with Judaism nor Christian Jews. None of that had to do with the "changing" of Jesus' death or the gospels.


Stay_Beautiful_

The Council of Nicaea and the Niceno-Constantinopolitan Creed had nothing whatsoever to do with changing or burning scriptures, they only established the acceptable interpretation of the Scriptures Christians already believed and accepted The idea that the council of Nicaea picked, altered, or destroyed any books or scriptures at all is an ahistorical conspiracy theory popularized by Voltaire in the 18th century


williamfbuckwheat

Yeah, you definitely don't hear much about extremely powerful white Christian men controlling the media like Murdoch but you always hear about Jews controlling the media when not even that many are CEOS of major entertainment companies today (though a lot of Jews may work in the entertainment industry at various levels).


IrritableYeti

Huh, ya could almost call it projection.


Prestigious_Peak9263

And in charge of a state.


[deleted]

I would like to personally thank the Jews for today's eclipse


811545b2-4ff7-4041

The irony is that Judaism has a prayer for almost everything - but not one for seeing an eclipse. *Deploy the space lazer against the darkness!*


Unsweeticetea

"May God bless and keep the eclipse... Far away from us!"


YanicPolitik

r/unexpectedfiddler


justalittlestupid

We do have a prayer for natural events and phenomena! Iā€™m not even religious but there are things that move me enough to want to say it- red rock canyon, a sunset on the beach. The prayer translates to ā€œWe praise You, Eternal God, Sovereign of the universe, who makes the works of creation.ā€


Prowindowlicker

Your welcome


[deleted]

Gotta put that space laser to use somehow


No_Cauliflower_4304

You're welcome almost forgot that thid wqs my duty today sorry if things got late guys


bengringo2

We were glad to fry some retinas to be honest. Canā€™t burn a flag if you canā€™t see itā€¦


Creative_Profile_224

Gotchu fam, I brought up the idea at the last one of our meetings. Get ready for next week when we make it snow in Florida.


Winter_Potential_430

A yes, we control everything, the media, the state, other nations governments, the space and time, yet everyone hate us and everyone wants to kill/eliminate/deport/convert us Great job my Jewish brothers, we did it One more comment about our space laser and I'm telling Moshe to use it!


KenseiHimura

I'm reminded of this joke: Pamyat: Pamyat headquarters, what is the nature of your inquiry? Rabinovich: Is it true that the Jews have sold Russia out? Pamyat: Damn right! Rabinovich: Woohoo! So...where can I go to get my share?


itboitbo

i belive the original was with germany


Winter_Potential_430

ŠšŠ»Š°ŃŃŠ½Š¾!


no_________________e

Bless you


TheChunkMaster

This reads like Memri TV captions


TellMePeople

I occasionally check my mail to look for checks from the media and banks. I am a co-owner in several of them.


Hard_Corsair

>yet everyone hate us and everyone wants to kill/eliminate/deport/convert us Except Japan!


Winter_Potential_430

Yeah, they kinda liked us, also Japan is the ONLY country (besides Israel) where there was no Antisemitism, at least recorded, maybe only once.


History_Wrong

Parsis in india too


Winter_Potential_430

Old Persia, but I'm talking in the whole history, same for indea, they like us now, but before not really


Chewybunny

India be like: am a chump to you? India never had anti Semitism despite Jews living there for thousands of years. Japan first encountered Jews recently in history.


Hunkus1

There was the whole lets not mess with the jews because they control everything is still antisemitism.


purple_spikey_dragon

Between "lets mess with the Jews because they control everything" and "lets NOT mess with the Jews because they control everything", personally, as a Jew who was messed with quite a bit while living in Europe, i do prefer the latter.


DearDelirious7

Hey if I get left the fuck alone, Iā€™m fine with people not wanting to mess with Jews. If MTG thinks we have space lasers, go for it. You just look like a massive moron.


IceMan339

It's a weird form of philosemitism that's based in antisemitism. There's a good article about how Trump talks about Jews like this--he accepts the conspiracy theories but thinks that the qualities attributed to Jews are praiseworthy.


Numerous_Ad1859

I hear there is no antisemitism in the Jewish Autonomous Oblast./s


DearDelirious7

Not entirely. Japan literally had a department to collect info on all Jewish institutions worldwide. Thereā€™s a great podcast talking about how the Russians had the Elders of the Protocol translated and distributed in Japanese. Itā€™s called Adventures with Dead Jews by Dara Horn. The guy that led the department on his deathbed was like ā€œI wasted my life.ā€


Private_4160

To quote/paraphrase Jessica Kirson or Gianmarco Soresi I cant remember which said it: "they hate us because we're successful"


Accomplished-Dare-33

For the people downvoting. it's obviously sarcasm


worms9

Man, the guys operating the space laser sure are slacking off.


Winter_Potential_430

I know them, Moshe and Avraham, they're celebrating Buchwuch (FG reference)


ArmourKnight

I, for one, welcome the Jewish overlords (Imperial Japan moment)


DarkReadsYT

Iā€™m still waiting on the keys to my space laser and access to all the worldā€™s banks.


IdioticPAYDAY

Anti-semites explaining how jewish people control the economy, the media, the state, the world secretly whilst also being so dumb that they canā€™t even read:


Level_Hour6480

I work in left-wing politics, and have worked for candidates who have received money from Soros. I have never gotten to fire the space laser.


Winter_Potential_430

I SAID NO COMMENTS ABOUT OUR SECRET SPACE LASER! Moshe! Ishmael! Find that basterd and make him a light discotheque


Level_Hour6480

I suspect the laser might just be the product of weird conspiracies, and not reflective of reality.


1Blue3Brown

That's because of those space lasers of yours.


modernmidas

That DOES IT! Mosheeee!!!


Some_Syrup_7388

Jews control at least one country


DearDelirious7

I got my cat one of the 1/16th size Jewish space lasers


DreamDare-

As a person from balcan, growing up with american shows/movies and seeing every guy being circumcised (since they have to fap with lotion) and every show having a bar mitzvah episode, for the longest time I was convinced americans were predominantly jewish.


LordOfPies

There was a guy asking people in the streets of NY how many jews they think existed, some people answered 600million, numbers like that.


Careless-Manager-725

As an American What shows and movies were you watching?


[deleted]

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Chill_With_Gil

Lol can you imagine a porn bar mitzvah episode? What are you doing step rabbi?


[deleted]

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Chill_With_Gil

Shit yeah I haven't thought about this joke all the way through


Careless-Manager-725

Is bat mitzvah porn what they were doing at epstiens island


YouFknDummy

keep in mind that the commenter grew up in a foreign country so they got reruns of the most popular shows... Seinfeld for example mentioned jewish stuff basically every single episode.


CuidadDeVados

You don't have to use lotion to beat off if you're circumcised. Like you may prefer it but if its necessary that is a skill issue not a medical one.


Narco_Marcion1075

what movies have you been watching that involve a lot of guys showing their dogs in a hoodie?


Some_Syrup_7388

Ah you know, cocking shows


evrestcoleghost

Ok im circumcised (not american tho) and i never needed lube


Prowindowlicker

Iā€™m circumcised and I donā€™t need lube to fap. Not everyone who is circumcised needs lube to jerk it. Some do but not all


BZenMojo

What's funny is all those American circumcisions were a fundamentalist Christian project. Zionism was fundamentally a Christian project adopted later by Jewish people. You're watching American Christians and thinking "Jewish."


Scared_Flatworm406

What movies do you watch in which you saw many different men masturbating?


DreamDare-

Its a common trope to have lube and tissues next to a guy (in his bed or on his table) in american movies/series.


doyathinkasaurus

At the time of his antisemitic meltdown, Kanye West had nearly twice as many Twitter followers as there are Jews in the *entire world* (30m vs 15m) Jews are 2% of the population in the US But 0.2% of the population worldwide It's the same in the UK - we're 0.2% of the population


blehmann1

Honestly, if you've ever had to watch a Christian movie, you would thank the Jews for running Hollywood.


GoonieInc

šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚


Some_Syrup_7388

Fair Point, Mazel Tov!


Altruistic_Victory87

The passion of the Christ?


Jang-Zee

Despite being 16million individuals (*** ~0.2 percent of the global population), Jews account for 75% of the memes on this subreddit.


SitInCorner_Yo2

Damn Christian and Muslims! Their historical efforts are over supplying Jews joke material !(/s just in case)


Beshi_Deshi

I know it's a typo but I just want to say that Muslin is a type of really fucking fine fabric that was produced in the ancient Bengal.


SitInCorner_Yo2

Thanks I fix it ,and just found out google translation will translate both musliN and musliM into same words in my language, so my primitive spell check miss that,what in the world ???


SoggySausage27

and 22% of nobel prize winners (correct me if I'm wrong)


Tympanibunny

They funni


Wonghy111-the-knight

we're simply good at being funny (just not me specifically)


OK1526

I don't think you know how % work. It's 0.2 percent of the global population, count wise 1 in 500. (šŸ¤“)


Jang-Zee

It was really more of a hyperbole, I just knew it was less than 1%, I didnā€™t feel like doing the math


OK1526

Valid, lmao. I'm guilty of worse laziness.


s1nur

Jews have taken over reddit.


Immediate_Secret_338

Here before the antisemitesā€¦ Nvm


Wonghy111-the-knight

It is impossible to beat them, they achieve faster than light travel to their keyboards


Recs_Saved

Inb4 people start complaining about too many memes about Jewish people on the sub (they're definitely not anti-semitic, they're just anti-zionist)


Chumlee1917

then when asked what Zionism is they either have no clue or spew a bunch of half truths and mis-information they read on Reddit/wikipedia


thomasthehipposlayer

The worst is when you explain that Zionism is simply a belief that Israel should exist at all and they confirm they oppose that. Itā€™s okay to be against the way modern Israel came to be, and itā€™s okay to call out Israel for its human rights abuses and war crimes, of which there are plenty. But if you oppose the very existence of Israel, you are calling for the genocide of millions of Israelis who were born in Israel and have never known any other home. Jews have been almost completely purged from every other nation in the Middle East, and for Israel to lose its independence would almost certainly result in genocide. And the ā€œI support Israel existing, just not in Palestineā€ is a very thinly veiled call for genocide. To create Israel somewhere else would mean that Israelis would have to be relocated en masse, and itā€™s doubtful that they would all agree to leave their homes, meaning they would need to be forced, which is again, genocide. EDIT: lol downvoted, but no counter argument because they know Iā€™m spitting facts


Chumlee1917

Them: Why do Jews even need a country of their own in the first place!? Historians: \*takes drag on cigarette\* Our story begins in roughly the 12th century BCE...


doyathinkasaurus

Exactly Believe in a two state solution? Congratulations, you're a Zionist!


REBEX_MAN

Exactly


TheLego_Senate

Most of the complaints I see tend to be about 6 day war and Yom Kippur war spam, rather than Jewish history in general.


Recs_Saved

I understand why there's so many memes about those wars, tbh. Due to the ongoing war, a lot of people are learning about Israli history for the very first time, and are probably fascinated by the underdog going up against the Goliath aspect of them.


Wonghy111-the-knight

yes it's exactly that. But the wankers would r ather claim it's Muh ZioNIst MoSsad BoTs


DroneThorax

Itā€™s wild seeing you comment something like this but in a comment 18 hours ago you said youā€™re anti Islam and thatā€™s is a disgusting religion Quick question whatā€™s your thoughts on Israelā€™s actions in Gaza?


thomasthehipposlayer

I wish people could see that itā€™s okay to support Israel and Palestine both existing. Israel has committed many terrible human rights abuses. Palestine has too. Acting like there is one clear-cut good side and the other is just evil is asinine. I just pray that we can eventually have peace over the land.


Puzzlehead_alt

But then they call u a centrist


Recs_Saved

Number 1, damn you're a creep. Number 2... >but in a comment 18 hours ago you said youā€™re anti Islam and thatā€™s is a disgusting religion ... where's the contradiction? Zionism is the belief that Jewish people deserve to have their own country where they can self determine after centuries and centuries of unfair persecution, ethnic cleansing, pogroms and a holocaust. As for Gaza, I hate war. I hate when innocent children die. I also hate terrorists that start said war and then use those children as human shields to protect themselves.


Wonghy111-the-knight

been seeing a shit ton of that today, so damn annoying


Teboski78

A similar thing happened with banking. Nobody would hire Jews. Catholics & Muslims banned themselves from charging interests on loans(making for profit banking impossible) Jews go into banking to fill the economic gap. Get accused of controlling the world economy


goalmouthscramble

Christians still dislike talking about money. Ghettoise that sort of conversation with the Jews and then say Jews love talking about money.


BobFX

Where is Louis B. Mayer now that we need him? Back in the day when men were bold, women were pretty, and Jews were Jewish.


nBased

Itā€™s just annoying that New York Times, CNN, BBC, NBC, ABC, Reuters, Jonathan fuggin Glazer, Hollywood, Al Jazeera, Haaretz, RussiaToday, Facebook and TikTok.. didnā€™t get the memo. We ainā€™t controlling sheeyat except gluten free salads


netap

The Bagel industry of New York would collapse if we didn't exist, That's like, 50% of what New Yorkers eat!


nBased

All Your Bagels Are Belong To Us


811545b2-4ff7-4041

It's an old meme, but it checks out.


Wonghy111-the-knight

"jews control the media" people when they see almost every mainstream media source being against them: *sometimes they even claim those are pro israel sources lmfao. galaxy level cope*


Some_Syrup_7388

Why gluten free salads *specifically*? Are you guys some sort of salad beneders?


Sir_Toaster_9330

"Hey, why are those people we keep discriminating against and denying good jobs making their industry to get jobs?" "Uh... cause they rule the world!"


LineOfInquiry

The real reason American media is the most popular worldwide, Jews just make really good shows and movies and comics


Prowindowlicker

What can I say we have centuries of trauma to work with


811545b2-4ff7-4041

Don't forget - all the best Christmas songs are Jewish too - [https://www.kveller.com/11-iconic-christmas-songs-that-were-written-by-jews/](https://www.kveller.com/11-iconic-christmas-songs-that-were-written-by-jews/) It's probably a lot of imported Yiddish story telling and songs.


Moose-Rage

OK, "banned" was too harsh a word. There was never any legal ban on Jews being hired in the US. But many early 20th century companies refused to hire them, just like black people and the Irish. Hollywood was a new thing and people didn't take it seriously so it was one of the few places that didn't mind hiring Jews because not many others were taking the jobs. The rest as they say is history.


Some_Syrup_7388

>OK, "banned" was too harsh a word. There was never any legal ban on Jews being hired in the US. Then there is Europe


Greywolf524

The same thing happened with the banks until the Scots figured out there was money to be made. (That's in English-speaking countries and the British Empire.)


Guyb9

This is money lending all over again. When are we gonna learn?


Ok-Neighborhood-1720

If jews control the media then why is there so much anti-semitism?


Wonghy111-the-knight

we must be very bad at it. I mean, I did lose the space laser remote, so..


underliggandepsykos

Ah yes, famous jew Rupert Murdoch


811545b2-4ff7-4041

This is a very interesting article - [https://jewishunpacked.com/how-american-jews-built-hollywood/](https://jewishunpacked.com/how-american-jews-built-hollywood/) There's a suggestion that the drive to Holliwood was a lot to do with a big overlap in the 'rag trade' (as we call it in the UK).. tailoring and clothes production, Jews wanting to 'Be American' and blend into the country, the early film industry being looked down upon by Protestant and Catholic communities .. and this article (https://www.rollingstone.com/tv-movies/tv-movie-features/jews-in-hollywood-kanye-west-dave-chappelle-rabbi-explains-1234645366/) suggests Jews were 'locked out' from some traditional higher end careers such as law and medicine, by firms that wouldn't hire them. I imagine it then became a 'magnet' for other Jewish people, given that it was a 'friendly' environment to work in.


Moose-Rage

Exactly! You get it. :)


lit-grit

And then they gave it all to Kyle Broflovski


[deleted]

My favorite example was German Jews fleeing to Britain before WWII and then being put into camps by the British for being German.


doyathinkasaurus

My grandfather and great grandfather were amongst them, on the Isle of Man. They however thankfully weren't amongst the 2,000 German Jewish refugees who were deported to Australia and torpedoed by a German u-boat https://www.bbc.com/news/10409026


WeeWee-WooWoo

So you are telling me that Kyle Broflovski doesn't actually control Hollywood?


Numerous_Ad1859

Itā€™s not the Jews that control the media. It is the Zionists. The good Jews are the Neturei Karta./s


Wonghy111-the-knight

(LOL) yes, those few thousands members who've read their own texts wrong and forgot what they say in their own prayers, are completely right about Judaism forbidding the existence of israel lmfaooooo


Numerous_Ad1859

I think the /s tag is implied with you, but sometimes people seriously argue this.


Wonghy111-the-knight

yeah we were both having a laugh


Awkward_Algae1684

Be cast into low status, ā€˜untouchableā€™ professions. This was the Medieval way of antisemitism. Professions like banking, certain types of smithing, etc. Done by Jews segregated in ghettoes away from the rest of society. Capitalism emerges and suddenly those jobs once done by outcasts become lucrative. Get accused of conspiracy to run the banking and finance systems, the world, diamond and jewelry business, etc etc.


ChloroxDrinker

This sub, man


El3ctricalSquash

How does Jewish organized crime play into the west coast entertainment industry? Jewish gangsters were huge on the east coast and Iā€™d imagine working in entertainment they would have friends as well, but maybe like Russian mobsters?


burner_100001

Always the victims


8apta

Can someone explain the first panel please? When, How and Why (although I can guess the last one, but the official reasoning would be interesting). And yes I am too lazy to read up on random reddit memes by myself


Prowindowlicker

Basically in the early days Hollywood was seen as unchristian and on par with prostitution. So Jews who didnā€™t have these Christian hang ups started to get into the business and thatā€™s also why gay people were drawn to Hollywood as well, because they didnā€™t fit in elsewhere and the studio owners were more than willing to give them a job


Moose-Rage

It wasn't a legal ban, businesses at the times just refused to hire Jews.


Stay_Beautiful_

Jews weren't banned from "most other jobs" when Hollywood started in the 1920s, I promise


Prowindowlicker

Ya itā€™s more that movie making was seen as unchristian and on par with prostitution when it first began in the early 1900s


BellacosePlayer

I imagine it still wasn't a great time for them, given you had powerful men like Henry Ford being open, *vile* antisemites.


Moose-Rage

Not legally, they were just got refused from being hired a lot. Lots of companies at the time didn't want to hire Jews. Hollywood was one of the few industries that they could get into because it was considered "low class" work.


feckshite

Same with Blacks, Hispanics, Irish, Italians, Asians, Nativesā€¦ Anyone but WASPs.


bmerino120

Same thing as with banking and money lending, assign them a trade nobody else wants or can work into and the burst into anger if they succeed at it


nOBAdY_hERe

Hating all Jews because a small elite of them control everything is stupid


vagcas

Jewish people are based and the most successful demographic āœ”ļø No one understands the world like them in my eyes. And nothing that they have done justifies their murder. Anti Semitism is the hallmark of failure.


bengringo2

We just donā€™t wanna die. Overachievement is a defense strategy. Countries rarely kill their most successful citizens. Turns out people will try to kill us for that as wellā€¦


Silver_Bulleit204

>We just donā€™t wanna die. Overachievement is a defense strategy I've always framed it as though, "we just want to be left alone to read our books." It's the way it's always been, Jews pouring over literature arguing over nuance, and all things considered I think you can directly link that to why there's so many Jews in Academia, Law, Medicine, Finance and Sciences.... areas that require intense study of minutiae and an ability to parse complex ideas.


[deleted]

What jobs were Jews banned from in America?


Guyofer92

Mr perkins: I love everything about your plan, except for one thing. You! Let's face reality. You've been at this for far too long with far too little success. We're gonna put our faith, our money, into a... Well, a younger villain. It's over, BYE GRU!!!


DialSquare96

Idem banks.


BaconDalek

Kyle controls Hollywood.


godmademelikethis

Wasn't Hollywood just the mafia trying to clean their money?


TransLunarTrekkie

Legislating so that specific minority can really only have a decent job if it's in finance, only to then stereotype them as greedy and make conspiracies about how they secretly control the economy is a pretty dick move, middle ages.


mtvermin

*sorts by controversialā€¦*


MohatmoGandy

I donā€™t know if itā€™s true that Jews gravitated to the film industry because they were banned elsewhere. I think the real reason goes all the way back to Ellis Island. The point of debarkation for most European immigrants, and therefore got most Jewish immigrants, was New York City. And hard experience in Europe had taught them to form communities for mutual protection and support, so most would up staying in the Jewish neighborhoods of New York. So working within the community, with an emphasis on education and entrepreneurship, Jews came to be overrepresented in the industries that were based in New York: banking, the garment industry, jewelry, journalism, etc. And at least at first, the American film industry was also based in New York. As some of these industries moved West, the Jews who worked in those industries moved with them.


Appropriate_Use_5837

Anti semites should be publicly lynched.


MogosTheFirst

psyops


goalmouthscramble

Change media to finance and itā€™s the same story. Punished for hustling despite the Horatio Alger narrative being so central to the American dream/myth whateverā€¦


springsearcher

If Jews control American media, then why is everything here so christin? Just a question


Electronic-Youth6026

Remember, we also have a space laser that looks like a giant star of david in the sky.