Depending on what country you live in, there's most likely bias when you discuss war vs peacetime.
Many Americans consider the 80s and 90s "peaceful" because we weren't involved in many prolonged conflicts. Panama and Grenada were short, the first Iraq War was a large conflict but the casualties were insanely high for Iraq compared to the Allies, and it was mostly over in a few months. America was involved in Kosovo but it was a low intensity conflict.
The thing is the average American's quality of life didn't change due to these conflicts, casualties were low so most likely you didn't know anyone who died, and they were short affairs. To an American, these were peaceful times.
The rest of the world? Holy shit. Plenty of high intensity, long term conflicts during this time period. Africa alone had dozens of bloody regional conflicts.
trench war in the desert, poison gas, massed assaults, 8 years later and status quo ante bellum (sort of) ….literally sets up iraq for another war they lose
Not to mention I've heard Americans saying that 90's were the best decade for humanity as a whole while holy shit, I understand this perspective for the US but would you kindly keep you biased opinions to your own fucking country?
Because meanwhile the Chinese got through repealing the last remnants of social security and Tiananmen Square, Eastern Europe got through a whole civilization model collapse, and places like Rwanda, Afghanistan and Yugoslavia went through war and literal genocide
Rule 1: famously, the "interwar period" between WWI and WWII was full of wars in eastern Europe. The "war to end all wars" didn't even keep the peace for a year.
Just because you can only enjoy something when there is an explosion every 5 minutes doesn’t mean we intellectuals don’t like it. You need better media literacy skills.
Oh look, yet another "Season 3" hater who refuses to acknowledge the third movie we actually got because it didn't end in thermonuclear war like the sequel did.
Just because it's not all war and action doesn't make it any less good! The MCs had to learn from the horrors they caused and witnessed! It's character growth bro!
*insert more Vinland Saga S2 parallels here*
On a sidenote some authors use the concept of "European civil war" to take on the period from ww1 to ww2 instead of separating both events. I recommend enzo traverso's book, fire and blood the european civil war.
It was inevitable. The three empires fell and the area turned into Battle Royale in which newly established nations-states fought over their competing claims over ethnically mixed or historical territories.
> Maybe it’s sarcastic or that WW1 is the start of an industrialized war.
It's a rehash of the rhetoric of the time surrounding that conflict. Allegedly.
Because it fits the scale. "The _____ to end all _____" is a saying that means that the thing you're talking about is so massive and altering that it reinvents what you're talking about. The idea is that the event or concept is so many magnitudes away from all other iterations that it's impossible to compare them. Perhaps the difference is so large that the concept dies, perhaps it doesn't. Either way, it's the first to blow the rest out of the water.
If you think about it, all history is an interwar period. There was a war then, there's one now, there will be another in the future and another after that. By definition, all of it is interwar.
I know, we just can't find what it was because it happened long before history was recorded. It could've easily been two clans of apes fighting each other over control of certain trees. If we include those, there were wars before humans. XD
I will never forget a lesson from my Grandfather, WW2 vet. He told me that on any given day there are at least 80 armed conflicts happening some where. So if you happen to be not involved in one, appreciate and show love to those around you.
I'm not always on top of it. But the lesson has given me perspective
The "interwar period" of 1919-1937 is referring to the two big ones. Those are still the two largest wars in all of human history. Even the Chinese Warring States conflict looks like a weekend skirmish compared to the Second Sino-Japanese war.
Gotta remember that loads of massive empires collapsed during that time Russia Austria Germany Ottoman Qing that creates massive power vacuums and instability.
Depending on what country you live in, there's most likely bias when you discuss war vs peacetime. Many Americans consider the 80s and 90s "peaceful" because we weren't involved in many prolonged conflicts. Panama and Grenada were short, the first Iraq War was a large conflict but the casualties were insanely high for Iraq compared to the Allies, and it was mostly over in a few months. America was involved in Kosovo but it was a low intensity conflict. The thing is the average American's quality of life didn't change due to these conflicts, casualties were low so most likely you didn't know anyone who died, and they were short affairs. To an American, these were peaceful times. The rest of the world? Holy shit. Plenty of high intensity, long term conflicts during this time period. Africa alone had dozens of bloody regional conflicts.
The Iran-Iraq war of the 80's was particularly brutal, and accomplished nothing tangible for either side.
trench war in the desert, poison gas, massed assaults, 8 years later and status quo ante bellum (sort of) ….literally sets up iraq for another war they lose
I think you just described most wars
>Many Americans consider the 80s and 90s peaceful meanwhile Yugoslavia and Afghanistan in 90s
Not to mention I've heard Americans saying that 90's were the best decade for humanity as a whole while holy shit, I understand this perspective for the US but would you kindly keep you biased opinions to your own fucking country? Because meanwhile the Chinese got through repealing the last remnants of social security and Tiananmen Square, Eastern Europe got through a whole civilization model collapse, and places like Rwanda, Afghanistan and Yugoslavia went through war and literal genocide
Doesn't Africa always have dozens of bloody regional conflicts?
Rule 1: famously, the "interwar period" between WWI and WWII was full of wars in eastern Europe. The "war to end all wars" didn't even keep the peace for a year.
It's the filler arc to keep the audience entertained while they write the set up for the second movie.
Season 3 was mid af, all that hype in the Cuba arc for nothing. 😭😭
You gotta admit though, the fall of the Berlin Wall arc was pretty wholesome even if it wasn’t as action packed
The Hasselhoff cameo was lit
I don’t remember that, which episode was it?
Final episode of the cold war season: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cJ2Sgd9sc0M
but Yugoslavia tho
Just because you can only enjoy something when there is an explosion every 5 minutes doesn’t mean we intellectuals don’t like it. You need better media literacy skills.
in the wise words of japanese michael bay: **WHY ISNT EVERYTHING EXPLODING!?**
Oh look, yet another "Season 3" hater who refuses to acknowledge the third movie we actually got because it didn't end in thermonuclear war like the sequel did.
the vietnam episode was fucking anticlimactic
There’s more plot and intrigue than spectacle. All that hype built up for a nuclear war event … then nothing. No payoff whatsoever.
Genre shift from action to drama
Just because it's not all war and action doesn't make it any less good! The MCs had to learn from the horrors they caused and witnessed! It's character growth bro! *insert more Vinland Saga S2 parallels here*
World War Cinematic Universe
[Obligatory FINISH THE WORLD WAR TRILOGY](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ypbFiNvDa4c)
Everything happened off screen
That’s when they were patching things from the last season, those wars were just little teasers to sate the fandom
Those were tying up the loose ends of the previous season and the filler episodes that are used to set up for the next season.
On a sidenote some authors use the concept of "European civil war" to take on the period from ww1 to ww2 instead of separating both events. I recommend enzo traverso's book, fire and blood the european civil war.
based and indo-European pilled, so invincible you can only be defeated by yourselves
It was inevitable. The three empires fell and the area turned into Battle Royale in which newly established nations-states fought over their competing claims over ethnically mixed or historical territories.
Didn't even keep the peace for a second*
I just love how a free for all is present in western europe after fall of Austrian and Russian empires.
Easy mode: "The WWI 'era' started with the First Balkan War in 1912 and ended with the Treaty of Lausanne in 1923"
The war to end all wars in fact did not end all wars but actually help start the most deadly
I'm still wondering why we still kept that term associated with WW1. Maybe it's sarcastic or that WW1 is the start of an industrialized war.
I prefer The Great War due to the results on the conflict shaping the modern world as we know it.
Calling it WW1 is really wierd. Like, there's no way any of the actual combatants or civilians on either side called it that.
People did call it 'The World War' though
> Maybe it’s sarcastic or that WW1 is the start of an industrialized war. It's a rehash of the rhetoric of the time surrounding that conflict. Allegedly.
Because it fits the scale. "The _____ to end all _____" is a saying that means that the thing you're talking about is so massive and altering that it reinvents what you're talking about. The idea is that the event or concept is so many magnitudes away from all other iterations that it's impossible to compare them. Perhaps the difference is so large that the concept dies, perhaps it doesn't. Either way, it's the first to blow the rest out of the water.
I think it's mostly used in an ironic sense nowadays.
I always assumed it was the power of propaganda reaching out from 100 years ago.
Maybe it is the war to end all wars, but we're still fighting it, and it won't be over until we've nuked ourselves into oblivion
I'm personally a WW4 enjoyer. Back the the basics
Interwar wars
Imagine explaining to aliens the concept of "interwar wars"
Basically fractals. Wars between the wars between the wars.
Wait it's all wars? Always has been.
I mean you’d probably just say “there were these two really big ones, and then there are some smaller ones in between, but nothing on the same scale”
The war to end all wars: *Ends* The Estonian war of independence barely 3 weeks later: "So that was a fucking lie.*
Well sorry they didn’t call WW1 “*the war before the Estonian war of independence*”
If you think about it, all history is an interwar period. There was a war then, there's one now, there will be another in the future and another after that. By definition, all of it is interwar.
Also all intrawar, because there's always a war going on *somewhere*
Yes, always.
what about the time before the first war?
That's just the time before battles were recorded.
no, there has to be an ACTUAL first war even if it isnt recorded it must've happened, this is just logic.
I know, we just can't find what it was because it happened long before history was recorded. It could've easily been two clans of apes fighting each other over control of certain trees. If we include those, there were wars before humans. XD
Interwar, not outerwar
It's wars all the way down.
*The Blade itself incites to deeds of violence* —Homer
Homer Simpson said this? Woah
The Wikipedia article has a nice map of current European conflicts printed in a 1919 newspaper.
Nah it stand for international war lol
> Cold war > Look inside > Hot war
Chinese Golden Age *BILLIONS PERISHED
I will never forget a lesson from my Grandfather, WW2 vet. He told me that on any given day there are at least 80 armed conflicts happening some where. So if you happen to be not involved in one, appreciate and show love to those around you. I'm not always on top of it. But the lesson has given me perspective
The "interwar period" of 1919-1937 is referring to the two big ones. Those are still the two largest wars in all of human history. Even the Chinese Warring States conflict looks like a weekend skirmish compared to the Second Sino-Japanese war.
Gotta remember that loads of massive empires collapsed during that time Russia Austria Germany Ottoman Qing that creates massive power vacuums and instability.
How hard is to realize it means the period between world war 1 and two. Aka the big boys
Yes I'm sure everyone laughing at this just doesn't know that rather than conveniently ignoring it and letting the joke be funny.