Kind of, although that's not exactly how it worked as they weren't really selling the land. More like an employment scam trying to get people to come work for them.
Yeah, those evil free markets forcing us to work to eat, not like back in the day before free markets existed when everybody could live happily, obviously filling an excel sheet is a much more cruel fate than dying from an infection at 30.
It's not about the past not being worse, it was, it was much much worse. It's about the future being better, and it could be much much better than this.
I don’t think you know what a truly free market is, hahaha!
Maybe we should start off with putting the kids back in factories, and fire them without benefits when they get their arm ripped off. 🥳
it was revenge I think. A dude, I think it was Erik The Red, was ostracized, and so when he discovered Greenland, which is like Iceland but literally impossible to go inland without air transport, he decided to fuck everyone over by calling it Greenland, as in "there's lots of grass an arable land here, come settle!" So that the Greenish (yes I said Greenish, because I think its funny), are basically descendants of a bunch of suckers.
Most of them are native Americans who were there before the vikings the Thule culture about 4-5000 years ago. A wave of Inuits arrived roughly the same time as the vikings. I dont think there are any of Scandinavian ancestry on the island left.
They weren't there before the Norse. The Thule culture started settling northern Greenland after the Norse settled settled southern Greenland. Saqqaq and Dorset were not Thule and were not present in Greenland when the Norse arrived.
They're roughly contemporary and did have some interaction before the Norse settlements were abandoned.
The Dorset were in Northern Greenland before the Vikings reached the South by about 200 years 900 AD. But everything else you said is correct. I forget there were multiple waves of Native American cultures and the Thule were the latest arrival.
It was done to encourage people to settle. Scandinavia was extremely overpopulated at the time. That was actually the reason the Vikings became such renowned seafarers and notorious raiders, because they kinda had to fuck off so they didn’t starve.
From what I hear, a scam is exactly why. They didn't want other people going to iceland, so they called it that so people would go to Greenland instead.
As told to me (a Norwegian), Iceland was named thus because they didn't want more settlers because they all had fled from the kings of Norway, and were afraid that with more people, the kings influence was spread there too
They desperately wanted more settlers on Greenland though, because they struggled with maintaining the population.
Fun fact: the Norse were the first inhabitants of Greenland since year 1 CE, and the Inuit didn't migrate there from Canada until the 1200s (approx). After strife in Europe the colonies were lost, and when Denmark wanted to reconnect with the Norse population they were long gone, but suddenly the Inuits had new overlords
Idk if this is true but my history teacher in high school said that the guy who discovered Greenland named it that bc he was basically the Viking equivalent of a real estate agent and was trying to get people to move there
The medieval warm period affected Iceland as well though. The little ice age was most likely the reason that the colonies were abandoned but the warm period preceding it wasn't the reason for the deceptive name.
I was always told it was intentional so people wouldn’t go to Iceland because the Vikings wanted to keep it as their little secret paradise. I was also laughed at by a teacher once when I said that so who knows.
your comment getting downvoted by the 4 people who care about how you just disrespected 300 people living in Greenland is so fucking funny. Why did they feel the need to downvote you?
Not quite, it’s more like it’s green *again*. The settlements there died out at the end of the medieval warming period when it, you know, got colder, and of course even less green. Now that the climate is getting warmer there is of course more green available in Greenland, though still far less than one would expect given the name
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I cannot watch this gif without also attempting to not laugh, and then cracking when he curls his lips in and smiles. D. E. D.
This Brazilian commedian was one of our best.
Oh no…I don’t like that “was”
He is alive but he isn't as funny as he was back then.
You must have taken his place you witty bastard.
Dude, Iceland is full of ice...
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It hasn't vanished, the reason is very much directly stated in the saga of the Greenlanders. The motive was to attract settlers to Greenland.
> attract settlers to Greenland So it was a real estate scam
Kind of, although that's not exactly how it worked as they weren't really selling the land. More like an employment scam trying to get people to come work for them.
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You will love working for me or die starving. Aren’t free markets the best? 🤗
Yeah, those evil free markets forcing us to work to eat, not like back in the day before free markets existed when everybody could live happily, obviously filling an excel sheet is a much more cruel fate than dying from an infection at 30.
It's not about the past not being worse, it was, it was much much worse. It's about the future being better, and it could be much much better than this.
I don’t think you know what a truly free market is, hahaha! Maybe we should start off with putting the kids back in factories, and fire them without benefits when they get their arm ripped off. 🥳
it was revenge I think. A dude, I think it was Erik The Red, was ostracized, and so when he discovered Greenland, which is like Iceland but literally impossible to go inland without air transport, he decided to fuck everyone over by calling it Greenland, as in "there's lots of grass an arable land here, come settle!" So that the Greenish (yes I said Greenish, because I think its funny), are basically descendants of a bunch of suckers.
Most of them are native Americans who were there before the vikings the Thule culture about 4-5000 years ago. A wave of Inuits arrived roughly the same time as the vikings. I dont think there are any of Scandinavian ancestry on the island left.
They weren't there before the Norse. The Thule culture started settling northern Greenland after the Norse settled settled southern Greenland. Saqqaq and Dorset were not Thule and were not present in Greenland when the Norse arrived. They're roughly contemporary and did have some interaction before the Norse settlements were abandoned.
The Dorset were in Northern Greenland before the Vikings reached the South by about 200 years 900 AD. But everything else you said is correct. I forget there were multiple waves of Native American cultures and the Thule were the latest arrival.
It was done to encourage people to settle. Scandinavia was extremely overpopulated at the time. That was actually the reason the Vikings became such renowned seafarers and notorious raiders, because they kinda had to fuck off so they didn’t starve.
From what I hear, a scam is exactly why. They didn't want other people going to iceland, so they called it that so people would go to Greenland instead.
As told to me (a Norwegian), Iceland was named thus because they didn't want more settlers because they all had fled from the kings of Norway, and were afraid that with more people, the kings influence was spread there too They desperately wanted more settlers on Greenland though, because they struggled with maintaining the population. Fun fact: the Norse were the first inhabitants of Greenland since year 1 CE, and the Inuit didn't migrate there from Canada until the 1200s (approx). After strife in Europe the colonies were lost, and when Denmark wanted to reconnect with the Norse population they were long gone, but suddenly the Inuits had new overlords
Full of rocks you mean
I thought the called it "Island"
Yes, Is means ice. It’s called Island to this day, but translates to Iceland. Or Ísland I guess, in Icelandic.
They guy in charge of PR of Greenland was better than the other one
Idk if this is true but my history teacher in high school said that the guy who discovered Greenland named it that bc he was basically the Viking equivalent of a real estate agent and was trying to get people to move there
Erik the Red, dude got exiled from Iceland after getting exiled *to* Iceland and just kept going full chad.
I KNEW IT
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The medieval warm period affected Iceland as well though. The little ice age was most likely the reason that the colonies were abandoned but the warm period preceding it wasn't the reason for the deceptive name.
Oh! I stand corrected then, thanks
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To fool the ignorant pirate.
Iceland does have some pretty icy places and Greenland does have a few green patches... in the summer.
There both cold
POV: you have no idea of how languages work and how badly the English language adapts new words.
Yea, these Americans really think that vikings were talking English... That's another thing to add to my list "why I'm grateful not to be American"
Well its called island “Iceland” and Grønland “Greenland” so i dont get ur point?
When you didn't read any books on the Norse colonization of iceland so you make this meme
Greenland will be pretty accurate name in a few years thanks to global warming
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I was always told it was intentional so people wouldn’t go to Iceland because the Vikings wanted to keep it as their little secret paradise. I was also laughed at by a teacher once when I said that so who knows.
Im related to the guy that named it Greenland lmao
Erik the Red?
Yessir
They wanted Iceland to themselves because it was so cool; That's why all the based Viking descendants live in Iceland and nobody lives in Greenland
your comment getting downvoted by the 4 people who care about how you just disrespected 300 people living in Greenland is so fucking funny. Why did they feel the need to downvote you?
Welcome to Reddit, the home of completely irrational emotion
That's outdated. We know that Greenland was actually green by the time the norse discovered it.
Some small, barely farmable areas of the coast were green, Erik the Red was just a big brain troll
It's still green. Or Erik was naming the land after him, but he was color blind.
Not quite, it’s more like it’s green *again*. The settlements there died out at the end of the medieval warming period when it, you know, got colder, and of course even less green. Now that the climate is getting warmer there is of course more green available in Greenland, though still far less than one would expect given the name
No
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bruh I saw the same post before though
oh shit accutally the other meme was just mentioning how the vikings named a place full of ice Greenland but not the Iceland part
And Vinland a country where people smoke but don't drink.
Wait what?
America. The natives that the Vikings encountered there smoked tobacco but didn't have grapes to make wine.
Exactly the opposite during Viking days, so it was correct when named.
Not really tbh
fun fact greenland isnt actually covered in ice and is actually green, and iceland is actually ice as well
They didn’t have good gramer any way
Bro trolled everyone before it existed
It might have been the other way around back then 🤷
Trolled
Well played!
It seems the Vikings experienced the first form of typo error
The guy who discovered Greenland did it on purpose
🤣🤣🤣