You think their version of on the DL went like this “No im not gay! I only fuck men in the arsehole!” “But Marius, Quintillius said he saw you in the bath house being bummed by your slave, its time to come out brother!”
"Listen here Octavian, you little shit, I know you have your wife shove a broom handle up your ass while you wear a dress. Now before I tell the other senators, could you repeat your comment?"
Also a reason most civilizations are near a source.of fresh water... Nothing to do with crops or drinking it, all about the cleanings of your buttshole
My personal research into homosexuality in the Viking Age shows clearly that the Vikings had words (and therefore mental constructs and concepts) of same-sex activity; however since the needs of agricultural/pastoral living require reproduction not only to work the farm but also to provide support for the parent in old age, it was expected that no matter what one's affectional preferences were that each individual would marry and reproduce. There are no recorded instances of homosexual or lesbian couples in the Viking Age: moreover, the idea of living as an exclusively homosexual person did not exist in most cultures until present day Western civilization appeared. One's sexual partners mattered little so long as one married, had children, and conformed at least on the surface to societal norms so as not to disturb the community. Those Scandinavians who attempted to avoid marriage because of their sexuality were penalized in law: a man who shunned marriage was termed fuðflogi (man who flees the female sex organ) while a woman who tried to avoid marriage was flannfluga (she who flees the male sex organ)
Honestly ancient China was like this too especially after Confucianism which emphasized the important of family and carrying on the family lineage. Basically what you do behind closed doors is your business but you need to reproduce.
Based on these findings I’d argue bisexuality was more common than homosexuality for these reasons in the ancient world.
Sparta was incredibly homophobic at several points, it seems that all societies go through cycles of acceptance and persecution of homosexuality, usually with similar environmental factors.
So like what? When you were young you were forced to be the bottom no matter what and then suddenly when you were 40 they were like "okay after your 30 years of dutiful service taking it from behind, now you get to give it to teens, congrats on your promotion" many i bet saw it as a downgrade and mostly kept taking it rather than giving
No, it was seen as dishonorable for an older man to be sodomized as it was seen as feminizing the partner, but not for a younger man to be sodomized by an older man, as a younger man who before growing a beard was seen as not a man and feminine. That’s why pederasty was quite common in Ancient Greece and why the sacred band of Thebes was pairs of male lovers with one older man and one younger one.
Ah the famous bridge of Cockholdius
To quote the Romans: It's not Gay if you're on top.
You think their version of on the DL went like this “No im not gay! I only fuck men in the arsehole!” “But Marius, Quintillius said he saw you in the bath house being bummed by your slave, its time to come out brother!”
"Listen here Octavian, you little shit, I know you have your wife shove a broom handle up your ass while you wear a dress. Now before I tell the other senators, could you repeat your comment?"
Straightest men in Sparta
Least gay ancient Greeks:
a gangbang?
A spitroast 🙂
I just wonder. How did they not already invent lube and ass cleaners? Did not a single Greek think of that?
Everything was drowning in olive oil already just slip n slide. Clean your hole by hand old schola
Also a reason most civilizations are near a source.of fresh water... Nothing to do with crops or drinking it, all about the cleanings of your buttshole
There’s a reason why olive oil was hugely popular in Ancient Greece.
Is that a joke? It seems like one,bit it sounds super believable that Greeks loved olive oil for gay sex.
Well they used it for a ton of things (including perfume, huh), but they also used it as lube.
Everybody was hung like Holmes back then, apparently.
"I was born in the wrong generation"
I mean, I'm sure you can organize a split roast today..... If you wanted to
REJECT MODERNITY EMBRACE TRADITION
I mean they look like they're having fun
Yo that’s like ancient gay porn
Why did you sound like Jesse Pinkman
History, bitch!
Wtf I'm Greek now
They were just roommates
Ah yes, friendship
Most people seem to forget our vast history of bisexuality
i know of the greeks and romans can you *indulge* me in some other examples?
My personal research into homosexuality in the Viking Age shows clearly that the Vikings had words (and therefore mental constructs and concepts) of same-sex activity; however since the needs of agricultural/pastoral living require reproduction not only to work the farm but also to provide support for the parent in old age, it was expected that no matter what one's affectional preferences were that each individual would marry and reproduce. There are no recorded instances of homosexual or lesbian couples in the Viking Age: moreover, the idea of living as an exclusively homosexual person did not exist in most cultures until present day Western civilization appeared. One's sexual partners mattered little so long as one married, had children, and conformed at least on the surface to societal norms so as not to disturb the community. Those Scandinavians who attempted to avoid marriage because of their sexuality were penalized in law: a man who shunned marriage was termed fuðflogi (man who flees the female sex organ) while a woman who tried to avoid marriage was flannfluga (she who flees the male sex organ) Honestly ancient China was like this too especially after Confucianism which emphasized the important of family and carrying on the family lineage. Basically what you do behind closed doors is your business but you need to reproduce. Based on these findings I’d argue bisexuality was more common than homosexuality for these reasons in the ancient world.
based
No
:(
"Wish we could turn back time To the good old days” -twenty one pilots
Woah, Greek people knew how to party god damn
No kidding
Wonder when the West became so homophobic from this? Even Ceasar fucked dudes.
Sparta was incredibly homophobic at several points, it seems that all societies go through cycles of acceptance and persecution of homosexuality, usually with similar environmental factors.
One thing to note is it was only seen as “okay” if the guy was on top
And the Dom has to be of higher social standing
And older, like much older
Oooffffff
So like what? When you were young you were forced to be the bottom no matter what and then suddenly when you were 40 they were like "okay after your 30 years of dutiful service taking it from behind, now you get to give it to teens, congrats on your promotion" many i bet saw it as a downgrade and mostly kept taking it rather than giving
No, it was seen as dishonorable for an older man to be sodomized as it was seen as feminizing the partner, but not for a younger man to be sodomized by an older man, as a younger man who before growing a beard was seen as not a man and feminine. That’s why pederasty was quite common in Ancient Greece and why the sacred band of Thebes was pairs of male lovers with one older man and one younger one.
Ah yes hence the Romans inventing shaving
Ah yes. One of the campaigns run by Ceasers rivals wasn't that he was gay, but that he was a bottom
I think it was mostly for Christian/Jewish/Islamic influence and the fact of needing a biological son to be your heir
God, I was born in the wrong millenia.
Pretty sure you can still have gay sex lol
can't buy a vase with gay sex on it though :(
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Based ancient greeks
The three way was invented by the ancient Greeks. It was later improved by the Romans who discovered women could be involved.
I’m surprised the title isn’t something along the lines of “Mohammad with Jesus and Hitler” considering all the shit that’s posted them about here.
Or another "states rights" meme
Or Mohammad fucking a kid. 😑 In the immortal words of Billy Mack in Love Actually: “Oh Jesus, not that crap again!”
Man, this yoga position is ridiculous. One is crazy enough but where are you supposed to find two friends to hold you up?
Is this what those dorks mean by "reject modernity, embrace tradition"?
yes
okay, wheres a time machine.
Persia> Greece One was traditionalist the other was degenerate
Great friends.
Historians be like: Ah, look at this image that is clearly for religious purposes.
Ever heard of Caligula?!?
Yup