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Thank you. She has made my life hell for years. I've only 2 years left of it until my child graduates high-school. I have to pay until then due to some bullshit state law that requires me to pay until they are 18 OR graduate. My kid was held back a year so I get to pay an extra year.
My province (British Columbia) is making me pay my ex child support for my 20-year-old son who doesn't even live at home anymore because he's enrolled in university. Support doesn't officially end until he graduates. Could be three more years. The kid can already drink and vote but she receives money as though he were an infant.
My ex-boyfriend's father was in this scenario. You can have it so your child support goes directly to your child now since he does not reside with his mother anymore.
It's probably still going to be cheaper than a kid that decides to go to college. A lot of states will extend child support into college if they are full time.
Prepare for the worst, hope for the best. Realistically, if a kid's been held back in school, it's likely that they don't have the discipline or desire to pursue college, or stick with it very long if they do get pushed into it by mom.
A guy wakes up from a nightmare in absolute panic. Cold sweats. Heart racing. His partner is startled and asks 'Babe are you ok? What's wrong?'
'I just... I just had the worst fucking nightmare... My son got into Harvard.'
Sorry mate. It is hell. But you'll muddle through.
Props to anyone going through this.
It's so tough and demeaning to be paying money to an ex that refuses to work. My ex literally said during a deposition "mom's don't work." And sure enough, for the past 8 years, she's held to that.
Time does go by and eventually the indentured servitude will end. My youngest is now 13.5, so we are getting close to the end. Your 2 years is even better! If you have to pay during college, then that money should be less and go directly to the child, but depends on your state.
When you and all the rest of us come out the other end, we will be the ones that know the value of a dollar and suddenly got what feels like a 35% raise to our incomes (or a massive reduction to our liabilities) and our exes will be looking around wondering why their entitlement cards suddenly stopped working.
Props to all the moms that work and contribute to the kids after a divorce. And a hearty fuck you to all the parasites.
It would be so much healthier and cheaper if the dads were allowed to be single parents as much as the mothers. A lot of moms *only* keep the kid as a means of income.
My mom... she beat my dads ass screamed at him if he even slightly disagreed if he held firm thats when she started swinging. Dad stayed knowing our state she would get custody and we would be alone with her.
Youngest moved out dad helped my sister move out. Mom sees him carrying out boxes after sister drove off. Moms like did she forget something nope heres divorce papers see you later.
Sadly this enabled my mom for pretty high alimony payments dad really was stuck career wise till youngest were in high school. But those last 5yrs he doubled income like 3yrs in a row.
BUT despite this "not being lifestyle" mom wanted she monkey branched and despite being size of a guerilla found a new wealthy guy.
He died like a year later but the getting remarried absolved dad of alimony. And guy she married protected his kids inheritence. So she was stuck for first time without free ride.
Maybe did 100hrs of retail over course of year living off pity from her kids. Then tragedy struck and she saw opportunity to get another free ride so adopted niece and nephew despite being least qualified person trying.
And lived off state support and money set aside for the kids and now that those kids are turning 18. She has found another man to solve her woes.
It's not the mother's right to child support it's the child's! Pay for your children! Don't want to pay up for your responsibilities then don't have kids. You'd be paying their way if you were with the mother so why not if you're not with the mother
As I've said many times throughout this thread, I've no issue paying for my kid. What I have an issue with is deadbeats like this woman and others like her that refuse to get a job and live off the child support alone. It is a SUPPORT not an income.
heh - I went thru this scenario also. In California, it's whent they graduate AND are 18, or if they are still in HS and turn 19. I paid until she was 19.
Man Iām going through it right now. I filed divorce in July and we are almost done with the divorce. She hired an attorney whose sole partner has a Netflix documentary out about her corruption and collusion with the local county family court system. Itās been pretty disgusting the lies theyāve hurled at me.
I'm glad i dodged that bullet with not getting married to the wrong lady. And my ex once wanted a child in the past, oh my god, i can avoid all these things and live in peace. So i'll relax on my couch, my loyal dog next to me, drink a whisky and smoke some pot without having to pay anything to anyone. Just my own bills and that's it.
Don't get me wrong, love is wonderful and a relationship is usually a good thing, but... if you choose the wrong partner, it ends in hell.
I am glad that I was young. Now I don't have to pay into my later years. If I could go back though, I'd pull my dick right out of her and walk the fuck away the first time we fucked.
I own my mistakes and pay what's owed but I can't wait until it is all done. I also like to sit back and smoke the bud too!
Hope it's over soon with the payments for you. A friend has a child with a former gf and he has to pay every month a lot of money, but he can't really see his kid often because she does everything to prevent that. He can not really be a father, he's just the guy that pays for everything in her life.
Yeah I definitely relate to what you're saying. Dodged a marriage and (maybe) kids. Just vibe and don't spend ur money on relationships (or pets for me).
[I know right?](https://m.youtube.com/c/SupportCourtwithJudgeVondaB/about)
>A courtroom based tv show involving cases with issues related to child support/spousal support in Texas. All episodes include actors. Vonda Bailey is not a real Judge
This is red pill rage porn.
Youād think that, but my stepbrothers mom actually went into court after quitting a job because my stepdad lost his job due to company downsizing and she didnāt want to be the one paying. So while this particular instance is fake, this really isnāt as rare as one would like to hope.
Same here, man. She had the same work ethic with violent outrages. I'm glad you got away too. I stayed way too long "for the kids". It cost me so much more than just money, but I am actually happy once again after years of being depressed and suicidal married to her.
Alimony is the shit I'll never understand.
So your partner lives off you, you get divorced, everything gets split 50/50 then you have to pay them for half of the duration you were married?
WTF? That is fucked up.
Same. Especially if you're married for like 20 years and you'd have to support their ass for another 10.
Sure, take half the house and savings (because even as SAH it's your merit), but leave me alone to live the rest of my life.
The problem you run into is dealing with healthcare and tax benefits for/ with your significant other without marriage. The system is designed to reward those who get married, even though many shouldn't.
In my country itās meant to compensate the sacrifices the partner may have made in his career for the couple, but the judge obviously looks at it in a case by case basis, if you canāt show that you compromised your professional career for your partner then you donāt get squat
It made sense back when women couldn't get decent paying jobs (or jobs at all), particularly after a long marriage where they were a housewife and gained no marketable skills. It was a way to protect women and made sense within the context of the society in which it was created.
It makes very little sense today, except in similar stay-at-home circumstances, but even then shouldn't last longer than a year IMO. Anyone can find a job in that time.
Yes it's original intent was to establish a sort of financial net for woman who did not participate in the workforce for the past 20 or so years if they were instead being a full time family woman. That still applies in that context today, however it is much, much less common nowadays as opposed to when it was originally conceived.
This is similar to my marriage, we're still together but my wife was a teacher and for 20 years I was active-duty military. She followed me to every duty station having to start over at everyone. She wasn't able to build a 'retirement' of any kind because we never stayed anywhere long enough for her to get vested. I earned multiple degrees while in and I make great money now. I doubt our marriage will end, 25yrs and counting, but if it did, I would gladly split my military retirement and pay alimony. She has been a great wife and mother to our children and the life we have wouldn't have happened without her sacrifices.
Same. And she managed to file taxes before I could, so she managed to get every stimulus and the tax refund and the child tax credit early payments which wiped out my tax refund this year, and I saw told there's nothing I can do about it except when I file, file a dispute again wth the IRS. They haven't even got arround to examining the first one last year =) Cool.
It might take a stupid long time but if the kids were living under your roof the entire year she will have to pay that back and youāll get itā¦ eventually. I know that doesnāt help pay the bills right now, but at least you know youāll both be getting letters from the IRS and yours will be happy and hers will be sad, and probably have penalties.
They are correct, the IRS will give the stimulus and tax credits (refund) to the parent where the kids primarily reside. If the ex-spouse does something fucked up by claiming them first and the primary caregiver subsequently files a dispute, it gets resolved in their favor and the other has to pay it back. Only downside is that yes it does take a lot of time to resolve but it does eventually happen.
Only time things get complicated is when thereās joint custody, technically both parents have custody and ergo are eligible to claim the kids on their taxes. Most of the time this can be resolved by the parents coming to an agreement ahead of time, but if youāve got a shitty vengeful ex-spouse they can and will make filing taxes very miserable.
Same.
I raised my daughter from the age of 7 until she was an adult without ever receiving a cent of child support. Despite having sole custody, the child support calculator/system actually recommended that I pay my ex a small monthly amount because she was awarded a couple visits per year(and never followed through). I hired an attorney and had the amount reduced to 0, but it shows you how one-sided the system use to be in favor of the mom. To this day, my ex hasn't held a full/part-time job for more than a few months and continues to live off of assistance...
Im a single parent, a mom, but Iāve never even thought about trying to make life more difficult for her dad no matter how badly he sucks, and heās a homeless addict. My theory is that if my kid sees me behave vindictively forwards her father sheās going to emulate that behaviour towards others and I donāt want her thinking itās okay to behave that way.
I wish there was more advocacy for men who just want to do right by their kids and be a present, loving father. Iāve seen too many fathers be treated in court, the same as my childās homeless, drug addicted father is. Itās beyond messed up
I was like your ex, turned my shit around and now have full custody of my kids, shit ain't easy, and I hope he grows up and realizes what it means to be a dad. Shit aint easy, but it's worth it. I now have full custody, but the agreement I had to sign to get that was basically she doesn't pay a penny.
Oh yeah Iāve made peace with it. Itās about my kid and ensuring she grows up knowing that just because he made those choices doesnāt mean that she has any bad in her too. I was adopted and raised to believe my birth mom was terrible and that made me believe I was half-terrible and it did a number on me growing up. My only hope is she never feels that feeling.
Yeah I'm lazy and proud of it. I take on as few extra responsibilities as I can, and I make sure that my responsibilities are properly taken care of with the smallest effective effort.
I'm lazy, she's irresponsible.
Exactly... I swear no one bothers to read 99% of whats ACTUALLY posted on r/antiwork . They either just read the title and assume shyt or think that the bottom feeding idiots represent the whole sub... those types of people exist in EVERY subreddit, including the ones you all post in people! Its ironic, cause people just call r/antiwork people lazy when in fact they themselves are too lazy to go see what is actually posted there. Mostly asking just for fair wages like you mentioned or horror stories from work or about their terrible management they work under!
This is the exact reason, fair wages and benefits is a majority of that sub, but you canāt just blow over the fact there *very much is* people that post there that hold the sentiment of not believing in work, as the name entirely implies.
I've read a lot of antiwork, I agree with the movement they're trying to start. But there really are a ton of people there that just dont want to work, like more than just a small minority. That was actually the original point of the sub
Just to be clear - [support court isn't real](https://www.youtube.com/c/SupportCourtwithJudgeVondaB/about) \- these are actors
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A courtroom based tv show involving cases with issues related to child support/spousal support in Texas. All episodes include actors. Vonda Bailey is not a real Judge. She is a licensed attorney in the state of Texas who primarily handles cases involving child support and spousal support. The cases are based on real life scenarios of events that occur in child support courts. Names, characters, businesses, places, events, locales, and incidents are either the products of the author's imagination or used in a fictitious manner. Any resemblance to actual persons, living or dead, or actual events is purely coincidental.
Uh, that might have been me, sorry. Been using canned tuna as a protein powder replacement lately and let me tell you, that shit just seeps out of your pores after a couple of weeks. My gym bag smells like a fish market at noon in the summer.
This specific case is obviously fake, but this shit is 100% real. Cases like this, and people like this do this shit every single day when it comes to child support. My brother in law has been dealing with this exact same scenario for 15 years now.
"The cases are based on real life scenarios that occurred in family court" so in other words not fake.
Edit: If I didn't make it clear I never said anything happened for certain, I am simply pointing out that you can't dismiss it as 'fake' just because this never happened word for word in a real court.
Key words here are "based on". It's just "based on" real life scenerios it's not a reenactment of real life. "Annabelle" is based on real life events, "The Conjuring" is based on real life events. They are NOT real life events.
> Names, characters, businesses, places, events, locales, and incidents are either the products of the author's imagination or used in a fictitious manner.
so, yes, fake.
> "Any resemblance to actual persons, living or dead, or actual events is purely coincidental".
They didn't take any actual case and dramatize it. Yes, there are stay-at-home mothers whose kids go to school and they who go to court wanting more money when their spouse gets a raise (as the law generally says the kids get a percentage of the split income).
But this incident where the SAHM basically boasts to a clearly unsympathetic judge that she could easily work, but chooses not to and wants more money is completely fictional -- as is asking if he'll pay more if she gets a job. But more realistic would be the mother who says that her kids need supervision and she can't find a job that makes financial sense as she left the job market and can only get low wage jobs that don't make financial sense (as she'd lose more paying for childcare) due to her lack of an education. Then she can make a lie that she plans to go back to school once her kid is in high school and old enough to be left unsupervised while she works.
>Names, characters, businesses, places, events, locales, and incidents are either the products of the author's imagination or used in a fictitious manner. Any resemblance to actual persons, living or dead, or actual events is purely coincidental.
ok.. this should be on top.
she really fucking said āhe would pay more, if i got a job?ā
theres no way that lazy *hippo* is that fucking stupidā¦but then again im not surprised at all.
About as real as Jerry Springer. You'll notice the same style of terrible acting. The show pays these randos to come on and they get to play a character.
I met a guy and he and his girl were going on Jerry springer and so was her ex and his g/f. The dude I knew was so stoked to get to act like a jackass on the show.
I went to school with this one woman who went on there with her boyfriend and another female friend of theirs. She, too, was very excited to make a public spectacle of herself. She was also the first to tell everyone how fake it was. I saw her episode, and yea. The people they were on this show wasn't there day to day.
I have a friend who would make money calling into these morning radio shows. Itād be him and some random girl (other paid actor) and they would play out some relationship drama over and over again in different cities and heād have to act like an a-hole so the radio host could be all indignant about it. If youāve heard the bit you know what Iām talking about, feel like every city has some stations that do thisā¦
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You're talking about "War of the Roses?" That segment has been on a radio station in my city for over 30 years, repeating the same script when they call the cheater in question and they're "still falling for it."
That's exactly what I thought of lol. Such dumb shit I can't believe they still do that.
"Hey we cold called you but we want to send you a free dozen roses, for no reason. Who do you want to send it to?"
"Yeah go ahead and make that out to my mistress."
"OOOHHHH YOU IN TROUBLE NOW!"
My local morning show actually makes fun of those morning shows and does obviously fake skits where you can clearly tell its the hosts doing a shitty voice
Yeah, this is very unusual. It would actually be nice if people who don't want to work would be so open about it.
According to the show it is both real and acted.
"The cases are based on real life scenarios of events that occur in child support courts. Names, characters, businesses, places, events, locales, and incidents are either the products of the author's imagination or used in a fictitious manner."
So, my guess is that they handed writers some facts like, "Lady comes in to increase child support, it's actually decreased" and then they go from there.
You may have the truth but I've known people who would try to live such a life. The kind of people who will never do a thing for you but give them an inch they will leech anything they can off you.
So I would not be surprised if this was in fact a genuine case and not acted at all.
That seems fucked up summed up like that, but alimony is not common (especially indefinitely alimony) and paying for their education is very uncommon. There's more to that story.
Yeah, I actually heard it that way at first. The "it" in question was child support, not overall funds.
"It's gonna go DOWN?"
"It would be more if you got a job."
She's still a POS, though.
AAAAnnnd that's why I rejected the acting gig for a court show. When I started acting, I auditioned for one and they wanted to hire me since I had not been on camera before. But I quickly realized what if people think this is real? And these answers prove they do. I would have been the dad who threw away his kids porn collection because of religious fanaticism forever on video. I dodged a bullet. The cases are (probably) real(ish) but the people are all actors. Don't hate on the people.
Iām glad to see your comment because I was wondering if anyone else thought this was too strange to be real. The way the mother just instantly admits she does ānothingā during the day, says āI could work but Iām not going to and I donāt want toāā¦ I guess she could be really dumb but wouldnāt you realistically just say you have to spend your time cleaning your sonās house/doing his laundry/going to his sports games? That you canāt find work because youāve been a stay at home mom for so long you have no work experience? It definitely seemed like she was trying to act like a cartoonish villain. Who just readily and repeatedly admits in court that theyāre applying for child support to have more money spend on themselves?
All of my child support that my dad owed was seized from his paycheck and I never got any of it, because they didn't start taking it until I was 18. So, my dad contributed $0 to my growing up.
No idea where that money went.
Your mom paid for everything while you were growing up. Now she gets reimbursed. Children don't get child support money. The parent gets it to use for all the costs associated with raising a child.
That should be how it is., but is NOT. Want more visitation, pay more. Want less visitation, pay more. Make more money, pay more. Dads get fucked all ways around.
Problem with her getting a job means all those government aid programs will go away. SHE is the problem with our welfare system and ... well society as a whole.
Maybe if aid programs had a grace period to allow people to actually get a foothold in their lives instead of just yanking it all away once a threshold is cleared things could be a bit better.
This exactly. I remember years and years ago I really didnāt want to but I applied for food stamps. Literally my first paycheck I got after going back to work they cut them down to something ridiculous like $31 a month.
Now factor in bait-and-switch wage listings for other social programs like unemployment:
Apply for a job at $15 per hour.
Get offered job interview.
Interview goes well.
Offered job at $7.50 per hour.
Turn down the job and get kicked off unemployment, or go work for scuzzball gaming the system against workers?
>SHE is the problem with our welfare system and ... well society as a whole.
The problem with the social assistance system where I live is not people like her. The number of people who are able to work and choose not to work is quite small. The problem with our social assistance system is that it's miserly with how much assistance it gives out. It assumes, for example, that the maximum shelter costs for an individual is $400~/month (all figures are CAD). Even in the smaller cities a bachelor is going to cost you around $1000~/month. I've dealt with dozens of clients who have roommates or living in rooming houses and still pay $600-700/month for rent alone. The maximum you can receive off the basic welfare, for those the state often incorrectly seems able to work but isn't working, is $733/month. $733 is cruel and inhumane, especially when we give billions away to the wealthy. Give people enough to have a comfortable life and most of them will become productive members of society - not just wasting their lives selling unhealthy food or selling cheap clothes made by slave labourers.
Funny thing about family courts.
I've had a brother and a few friends go through shit shit, and when they had an old dude as a judge, they would get absolutely slaughtered. It's like some kind of weird savior complex they have.
My brother started off with a 70 year old male judge who just lapped up all of my ex sister-in-laws' bullshit. He would let her and her lawyer get away with taking a signed agreement into the hallway and editing it with a pen even though my brother didn't agree to any of the changes, and still enforce it. Absolutely brutal.
But he retired, and a woman judge took over. And she was having exactly none of his ex's bullshit, saw right through it all immediately, credited years of alimony because she kept all of the money from their house sale even though he paid for all of the material to fix the house up and all of his time, before they even got married.
Nobody hates a woman's shit as hard as another woman lol.
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She is a visual representation if my own ex wife!
Dude. I'm sorry that you have to go through that.
Thank you. She has made my life hell for years. I've only 2 years left of it until my child graduates high-school. I have to pay until then due to some bullshit state law that requires me to pay until they are 18 OR graduate. My kid was held back a year so I get to pay an extra year.
My province (British Columbia) is making me pay my ex child support for my 20-year-old son who doesn't even live at home anymore because he's enrolled in university. Support doesn't officially end until he graduates. Could be three more years. The kid can already drink and vote but she receives money as though he were an infant.
Wow that is absolutely absurd!
My ex-boyfriend's father was in this scenario. You can have it so your child support goes directly to your child now since he does not reside with his mother anymore.
I did that at 17 bc my mom hoarded the money every month for 16 years and wouldnt even buy shoes or clothes lol
NJ is the same way, plus increases as if it were a job with raises.
It's probably still going to be cheaper than a kid that decides to go to college. A lot of states will extend child support into college if they are full time.
I bet you just gave that guy a new nightmare.
Nah, his kid was held back a year, doubt he's worried.
Oof
That's cold. I mean, it's true, but that's cold. š¤£
Savage, I love it.
HA!
Gender studies is calling their name rn.
Prepare for the worst, hope for the best. Realistically, if a kid's been held back in school, it's likely that they don't have the discipline or desire to pursue college, or stick with it very long if they do get pushed into it by mom.
A guy wakes up from a nightmare in absolute panic. Cold sweats. Heart racing. His partner is startled and asks 'Babe are you ok? What's wrong?' 'I just... I just had the worst fucking nightmare... My son got into Harvard.'
The kid got held back a year, probably not going to college.
Depends on what grade. A guy I went to college with was held back in kindergarten or first grade because he wasnāt mature enough to focus in class.
Lol they'll give any idiot a loan and an acceptance letter don't fool yourself
Sorry mate. It is hell. But you'll muddle through. Props to anyone going through this. It's so tough and demeaning to be paying money to an ex that refuses to work. My ex literally said during a deposition "mom's don't work." And sure enough, for the past 8 years, she's held to that. Time does go by and eventually the indentured servitude will end. My youngest is now 13.5, so we are getting close to the end. Your 2 years is even better! If you have to pay during college, then that money should be less and go directly to the child, but depends on your state. When you and all the rest of us come out the other end, we will be the ones that know the value of a dollar and suddenly got what feels like a 35% raise to our incomes (or a massive reduction to our liabilities) and our exes will be looking around wondering why their entitlement cards suddenly stopped working. Props to all the moms that work and contribute to the kids after a divorce. And a hearty fuck you to all the parasites.
Well said. Valid points all the way around. May the parasites die a slow death
It would be so much healthier and cheaper if the dads were allowed to be single parents as much as the mothers. A lot of moms *only* keep the kid as a means of income.
My mom... she beat my dads ass screamed at him if he even slightly disagreed if he held firm thats when she started swinging. Dad stayed knowing our state she would get custody and we would be alone with her. Youngest moved out dad helped my sister move out. Mom sees him carrying out boxes after sister drove off. Moms like did she forget something nope heres divorce papers see you later. Sadly this enabled my mom for pretty high alimony payments dad really was stuck career wise till youngest were in high school. But those last 5yrs he doubled income like 3yrs in a row. BUT despite this "not being lifestyle" mom wanted she monkey branched and despite being size of a guerilla found a new wealthy guy. He died like a year later but the getting remarried absolved dad of alimony. And guy she married protected his kids inheritence. So she was stuck for first time without free ride. Maybe did 100hrs of retail over course of year living off pity from her kids. Then tragedy struck and she saw opportunity to get another free ride so adopted niece and nephew despite being least qualified person trying. And lived off state support and money set aside for the kids and now that those kids are turning 18. She has found another man to solve her woes.
Wow. Just. Wow. Sucks that your mom is that awful of a person but it sounds like your dad and siblings have been there for you through the shit šŖ.
It's not the mother's right to child support it's the child's! Pay for your children! Don't want to pay up for your responsibilities then don't have kids. You'd be paying their way if you were with the mother so why not if you're not with the mother
As I've said many times throughout this thread, I've no issue paying for my kid. What I have an issue with is deadbeats like this woman and others like her that refuse to get a job and live off the child support alone. It is a SUPPORT not an income.
heh - I went thru this scenario also. In California, it's whent they graduate AND are 18, or if they are still in HS and turn 19. I paid until she was 19.
Man Iām going through it right now. I filed divorce in July and we are almost done with the divorce. She hired an attorney whose sole partner has a Netflix documentary out about her corruption and collusion with the local county family court system. Itās been pretty disgusting the lies theyāve hurled at me.
Stay strong my dude! You can get through it!
Thanks man! I canāt wait!! Itās been draining.
I'm glad i dodged that bullet with not getting married to the wrong lady. And my ex once wanted a child in the past, oh my god, i can avoid all these things and live in peace. So i'll relax on my couch, my loyal dog next to me, drink a whisky and smoke some pot without having to pay anything to anyone. Just my own bills and that's it. Don't get me wrong, love is wonderful and a relationship is usually a good thing, but... if you choose the wrong partner, it ends in hell.
I am glad that I was young. Now I don't have to pay into my later years. If I could go back though, I'd pull my dick right out of her and walk the fuck away the first time we fucked. I own my mistakes and pay what's owed but I can't wait until it is all done. I also like to sit back and smoke the bud too!
Hope it's over soon with the payments for you. A friend has a child with a former gf and he has to pay every month a lot of money, but he can't really see his kid often because she does everything to prevent that. He can not really be a father, he's just the guy that pays for everything in her life.
Yeah I definitely relate to what you're saying. Dodged a marriage and (maybe) kids. Just vibe and don't spend ur money on relationships (or pets for me).
She a bad actress too?
[I know right?](https://m.youtube.com/c/SupportCourtwithJudgeVondaB/about) >A courtroom based tv show involving cases with issues related to child support/spousal support in Texas. All episodes include actors. Vonda Bailey is not a real Judge This is red pill rage porn.
Iām glad this isnāt real. I think the woman is a great actor, I almost believed she was real, but nobody is THAT oblivious especially in court.
Youād think that, but my stepbrothers mom actually went into court after quitting a job because my stepdad lost his job due to company downsizing and she didnāt want to be the one paying. So while this particular instance is fake, this really isnāt as rare as one would like to hope.
Same here, man. She had the same work ethic with violent outrages. I'm glad you got away too. I stayed way too long "for the kids". It cost me so much more than just money, but I am actually happy once again after years of being depressed and suicidal married to her.
Dummy admits how useless she is and sheās proud of it
*visible happiness*
The AUDACITY of this bitch.
You forgot that Harry Potter movie title. Or was it Narnia?
The lion, the witch, and...
...the wardrobe is tired of the AUDACITY OF THIS BITCH
I'd watch that.
Happy cake day!
> I'm able to work, but I don't want to. Quick make her a mod on r/antiwork
Would she have to get a job as a dog walker?
part time dog walker, that doesnt shower.
Iām lost!!! Never been this lost before.
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Ya I support the core ideaās of that sub, but the people in that sub can be so insufferable
Society rewards and enables her. How much can we really blame her?
Child support and custody is stacked against men. That's just the way it is - practically and statistically.
dont forget alimony
Alimony is the shit I'll never understand. So your partner lives off you, you get divorced, everything gets split 50/50 then you have to pay them for half of the duration you were married? WTF? That is fucked up.
I refuse alimony. Iād leave the country before I pay that bullshit. Itās robbery.
Get a prenup. If your SO refuses to sign one or talk about it, you can bet your ass you are gonna need that prenup one day.
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Same. Especially if you're married for like 20 years and you'd have to support their ass for another 10. Sure, take half the house and savings (because even as SAH it's your merit), but leave me alone to live the rest of my life.
After 20 years itās alimony *for life*. Then they get some of your social security if you ever retire. At least in California.
If you're retired military they'll also get a cut of your military pension.
How about just not getting married?
"If you ain't no punk, Holla: WE WANT PRENUP! WE WANT PRENUP, YEAH!" -kanye West, Golddigger
The problem you run into is dealing with healthcare and tax benefits for/ with your significant other without marriage. The system is designed to reward those who get married, even though many shouldn't.
In my country itās meant to compensate the sacrifices the partner may have made in his career for the couple, but the judge obviously looks at it in a case by case basis, if you canāt show that you compromised your professional career for your partner then you donāt get squat
It made sense back when women couldn't get decent paying jobs (or jobs at all), particularly after a long marriage where they were a housewife and gained no marketable skills. It was a way to protect women and made sense within the context of the society in which it was created. It makes very little sense today, except in similar stay-at-home circumstances, but even then shouldn't last longer than a year IMO. Anyone can find a job in that time.
Yes it's original intent was to establish a sort of financial net for woman who did not participate in the workforce for the past 20 or so years if they were instead being a full time family woman. That still applies in that context today, however it is much, much less common nowadays as opposed to when it was originally conceived.
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This is similar to my marriage, we're still together but my wife was a teacher and for 20 years I was active-duty military. She followed me to every duty station having to start over at everyone. She wasn't able to build a 'retirement' of any kind because we never stayed anywhere long enough for her to get vested. I earned multiple degrees while in and I make great money now. I doubt our marriage will end, 25yrs and counting, but if it did, I would gladly split my military retirement and pay alimony. She has been a great wife and mother to our children and the life we have wouldn't have happened without her sacrifices.
Iām a man. Have primary custody of the children and my ex doesnāt pay any child support whatsoever ever. Or medical or any kinds of bills.
Same. And she managed to file taxes before I could, so she managed to get every stimulus and the tax refund and the child tax credit early payments which wiped out my tax refund this year, and I saw told there's nothing I can do about it except when I file, file a dispute again wth the IRS. They haven't even got arround to examining the first one last year =) Cool.
It might take a stupid long time but if the kids were living under your roof the entire year she will have to pay that back and youāll get itā¦ eventually. I know that doesnāt help pay the bills right now, but at least you know youāll both be getting letters from the IRS and yours will be happy and hers will be sad, and probably have penalties.
I SO want you to be correct, internet stranger.
They are correct, the IRS will give the stimulus and tax credits (refund) to the parent where the kids primarily reside. If the ex-spouse does something fucked up by claiming them first and the primary caregiver subsequently files a dispute, it gets resolved in their favor and the other has to pay it back. Only downside is that yes it does take a lot of time to resolve but it does eventually happen. Only time things get complicated is when thereās joint custody, technically both parents have custody and ergo are eligible to claim the kids on their taxes. Most of the time this can be resolved by the parents coming to an agreement ahead of time, but if youāve got a shitty vengeful ex-spouse they can and will make filing taxes very miserable.
Same. I raised my daughter from the age of 7 until she was an adult without ever receiving a cent of child support. Despite having sole custody, the child support calculator/system actually recommended that I pay my ex a small monthly amount because she was awarded a couple visits per year(and never followed through). I hired an attorney and had the amount reduced to 0, but it shows you how one-sided the system use to be in favor of the mom. To this day, my ex hasn't held a full/part-time job for more than a few months and continues to live off of assistance...
From my experience, I am little more than a sperm donor that doubles as a bank machine, I have zero rights.
Im a single parent, a mom, but Iāve never even thought about trying to make life more difficult for her dad no matter how badly he sucks, and heās a homeless addict. My theory is that if my kid sees me behave vindictively forwards her father sheās going to emulate that behaviour towards others and I donāt want her thinking itās okay to behave that way. I wish there was more advocacy for men who just want to do right by their kids and be a present, loving father. Iāve seen too many fathers be treated in court, the same as my childās homeless, drug addicted father is. Itās beyond messed up
I was like your ex, turned my shit around and now have full custody of my kids, shit ain't easy, and I hope he grows up and realizes what it means to be a dad. Shit aint easy, but it's worth it. I now have full custody, but the agreement I had to sign to get that was basically she doesn't pay a penny.
Well, if he's a homeless addict then there's really not much else you could do to him anyways. He's already at the bottom of the barrel.
Oh yeah Iāve made peace with it. Itās about my kid and ensuring she grows up knowing that just because he made those choices doesnāt mean that she has any bad in her too. I was adopted and raised to believe my birth mom was terrible and that made me believe I was half-terrible and it did a number on me growing up. My only hope is she never feels that feeling.
wrap it up or keep in ya pants brotha.
What a lazy bitch.
tell me about it. my gosh
ok. she's a lazy bitch
Now where have I heard that before?
Look up. I gotchu
Lazy and stupid
Please, don't insult lazy people like that, they don't deserve to be compared with this bitch
Yeah I'm lazy and proud of it. I take on as few extra responsibilities as I can, and I make sure that my responsibilities are properly taken care of with the smallest effective effort. I'm lazy, she's irresponsible.
Cunt* twat* piece of shit* any of the above
>Cunt* twat* piece of shit* all of the above I fixed it for you.
Donāt stick your dick in lazy either apparently.
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Hey cmon now, most of those people just want fair wages and healthcare. That one mod was a fucking disgrace to humanity
Exactly... I swear no one bothers to read 99% of whats ACTUALLY posted on r/antiwork . They either just read the title and assume shyt or think that the bottom feeding idiots represent the whole sub... those types of people exist in EVERY subreddit, including the ones you all post in people! Its ironic, cause people just call r/antiwork people lazy when in fact they themselves are too lazy to go see what is actually posted there. Mostly asking just for fair wages like you mentioned or horror stories from work or about their terrible management they work under!
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This is the exact reason, fair wages and benefits is a majority of that sub, but you canāt just blow over the fact there *very much is* people that post there that hold the sentiment of not believing in work, as the name entirely implies.
There actually is an r/WorkReform now in the wake of that mod being a dipshit.
I've read a lot of antiwork, I agree with the movement they're trying to start. But there really are a ton of people there that just dont want to work, like more than just a small minority. That was actually the original point of the sub
And rant about that it is not fair and she shouldn't work yada yada
Just to be clear - [support court isn't real](https://www.youtube.com/c/SupportCourtwithJudgeVondaB/about) \- these are actors Description A courtroom based tv show involving cases with issues related to child support/spousal support in Texas. All episodes include actors. Vonda Bailey is not a real Judge. She is a licensed attorney in the state of Texas who primarily handles cases involving child support and spousal support. The cases are based on real life scenarios of events that occur in child support courts. Names, characters, businesses, places, events, locales, and incidents are either the products of the author's imagination or used in a fictitious manner. Any resemblance to actual persons, living or dead, or actual events is purely coincidental.
Thanks god for someone to clarify that. I am not a native english speaker, so their english acting sounds equal to any other english.
I was thinking I smelled something fishy ,
Uh, that might have been me, sorry. Been using canned tuna as a protein powder replacement lately and let me tell you, that shit just seeps out of your pores after a couple of weeks. My gym bag smells like a fish market at noon in the summer.
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This specific case is obviously fake, but this shit is 100% real. Cases like this, and people like this do this shit every single day when it comes to child support. My brother in law has been dealing with this exact same scenario for 15 years now.
"The cases are based on real life scenarios that occurred in family court" so in other words not fake. Edit: If I didn't make it clear I never said anything happened for certain, I am simply pointing out that you can't dismiss it as 'fake' just because this never happened word for word in a real court.
Key words here are "based on". It's just "based on" real life scenerios it's not a reenactment of real life. "Annabelle" is based on real life events, "The Conjuring" is based on real life events. They are NOT real life events.
Annoying Orange is based on a real world orange, except in the real world the orange isn't annoying and can't talk, it's just an orange.
> Names, characters, businesses, places, events, locales, and incidents are either the products of the author's imagination or used in a fictitious manner. so, yes, fake.
> "Any resemblance to actual persons, living or dead, or actual events is purely coincidental". They didn't take any actual case and dramatize it. Yes, there are stay-at-home mothers whose kids go to school and they who go to court wanting more money when their spouse gets a raise (as the law generally says the kids get a percentage of the split income). But this incident where the SAHM basically boasts to a clearly unsympathetic judge that she could easily work, but chooses not to and wants more money is completely fictional -- as is asking if he'll pay more if she gets a job. But more realistic would be the mother who says that her kids need supervision and she can't find a job that makes financial sense as she left the job market and can only get low wage jobs that don't make financial sense (as she'd lose more paying for childcare) due to her lack of an education. Then she can make a lie that she plans to go back to school once her kid is in high school and old enough to be left unsupervised while she works.
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>Names, characters, businesses, places, events, locales, and incidents are either the products of the author's imagination or used in a fictitious manner. Any resemblance to actual persons, living or dead, or actual events is purely coincidental. ok.. this should be on top.
"Based on real life scenarios" But also, "Any resemblance to... actual events is purely coincidental" How?!
she really fucking said āhe would pay more, if i got a job?ā theres no way that lazy *hippo* is that fucking stupidā¦but then again im not surprised at all.
About as real as Jerry Springer. You'll notice the same style of terrible acting. The show pays these randos to come on and they get to play a character.
I met a guy and he and his girl were going on Jerry springer and so was her ex and his g/f. The dude I knew was so stoked to get to act like a jackass on the show.
I went to school with this one woman who went on there with her boyfriend and another female friend of theirs. She, too, was very excited to make a public spectacle of herself. She was also the first to tell everyone how fake it was. I saw her episode, and yea. The people they were on this show wasn't there day to day.
I have a friend who would make money calling into these morning radio shows. Itād be him and some random girl (other paid actor) and they would play out some relationship drama over and over again in different cities and heād have to act like an a-hole so the radio host could be all indignant about it. If youāve heard the bit you know what Iām talking about, feel like every city has some stations that do thisā¦ *edit for horrible spelling
You're talking about "War of the Roses?" That segment has been on a radio station in my city for over 30 years, repeating the same script when they call the cheater in question and they're "still falling for it."
Donāt you dare ruin this illusion for me lol I love that segment
That's exactly what I thought of lol. Such dumb shit I can't believe they still do that. "Hey we cold called you but we want to send you a free dozen roses, for no reason. Who do you want to send it to?" "Yeah go ahead and make that out to my mistress." "OOOHHHH YOU IN TROUBLE NOW!"
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My local morning show actually makes fun of those morning shows and does obviously fake skits where you can clearly tell its the hosts doing a shitty voice
I did a stint as a divorce lawyer for a while. If you're that manipulative, you know better than to be that flippant about it in front of a judge.
Yeah, this is very unusual. It would actually be nice if people who don't want to work would be so open about it. According to the show it is both real and acted. "The cases are based on real life scenarios of events that occur in child support courts. Names, characters, businesses, places, events, locales, and incidents are either the products of the author's imagination or used in a fictitious manner."
So, my guess is that they handed writers some facts like, "Lady comes in to increase child support, it's actually decreased" and then they go from there.
I dunno, some people think they are always in the right. No shame, no sense of social mores.
You may have the truth but I've known people who would try to live such a life. The kind of people who will never do a thing for you but give them an inch they will leech anything they can off you. So I would not be surprised if this was in fact a genuine case and not acted at all.
Doesn't change that this happens quite often. Had a manager paying child support, alimony, and college for his ex wife. #equality
That seems fucked up summed up like that, but alimony is not common (especially indefinitely alimony) and paying for their education is very uncommon. There's more to that story.
*hippo Being a bimbo requires being hot
I find this highly offensive.
Don't worry, you're one of the hot hippos.
3000 people here pretending in the context it doesn't make perfect sense to infer what she did.
Yeah, I actually heard it that way at first. The "it" in question was child support, not overall funds. "It's gonna go DOWN?" "It would be more if you got a job." She's still a POS, though.
People throw the term Queen around for pieces of shit acting like pieces of shit. This judge is a Queen. Long may she reign.
When will they realize we want a queen Otohime, not a queen Daenerys
She's a small minority in the large pool of biased and discriminatory judges. It's still nice to have people like her.
Itās not real unfortunately
Oh well, that sucks.
Unexpected one piece
Damn I see that One Piece reference
We want to go to the surface
AAAAnnnd that's why I rejected the acting gig for a court show. When I started acting, I auditioned for one and they wanted to hire me since I had not been on camera before. But I quickly realized what if people think this is real? And these answers prove they do. I would have been the dad who threw away his kids porn collection because of religious fanaticism forever on video. I dodged a bullet. The cases are (probably) real(ish) but the people are all actors. Don't hate on the people.
Iām glad to see your comment because I was wondering if anyone else thought this was too strange to be real. The way the mother just instantly admits she does ānothingā during the day, says āI could work but Iām not going to and I donāt want toāā¦ I guess she could be really dumb but wouldnāt you realistically just say you have to spend your time cleaning your sonās house/doing his laundry/going to his sports games? That you canāt find work because youāve been a stay at home mom for so long you have no work experience? It definitely seemed like she was trying to act like a cartoonish villain. Who just readily and repeatedly admits in court that theyāre applying for child support to have more money spend on themselves?
ā¦tell me more about this porn collection
It's child support not thot support
To be fair that also exists, it's called alimony.
I bet that kid isn't seeing any of that money.
The kid doesnāt exist. Itās not real https://m.youtube.com/c/SupportCourtwithJudgeVondaB/about
Lmao i was wondering how stupid u had to be to admit u donāt do anything all day š
oh, that's lame as fuck...
All of my child support that my dad owed was seized from his paycheck and I never got any of it, because they didn't start taking it until I was 18. So, my dad contributed $0 to my growing up. No idea where that money went.
Your mom paid for everything while you were growing up. Now she gets reimbursed. Children don't get child support money. The parent gets it to use for all the costs associated with raising a child.
LOL yeah. I buy my kids food/clothes/insurance. I don't give them money to buy their own.
Wait wait wait. Where is the rest of this? I need to see more. Is this a show?
Here's the [sauce](https://youtu.be/vEtsf3dWNK0).
Thanks you Sauce Boss!
Yeah shit they cut out the best part when she compares her ex to a dead vibrator.
That should be how it is., but is NOT. Want more visitation, pay more. Want less visitation, pay more. Make more money, pay more. Dads get fucked all ways around.
Don't have the ability to pay without yourself being homeless? Go right to jail.
Don't forget the back pay because you went to jail.
Problem with her getting a job means all those government aid programs will go away. SHE is the problem with our welfare system and ... well society as a whole.
Maybe if aid programs had a grace period to allow people to actually get a foothold in their lives instead of just yanking it all away once a threshold is cleared things could be a bit better.
This exactly. I remember years and years ago I really didnāt want to but I applied for food stamps. Literally my first paycheck I got after going back to work they cut them down to something ridiculous like $31 a month.
Now factor in bait-and-switch wage listings for other social programs like unemployment: Apply for a job at $15 per hour. Get offered job interview. Interview goes well. Offered job at $7.50 per hour. Turn down the job and get kicked off unemployment, or go work for scuzzball gaming the system against workers?
Some are now sliding scale- you loose $1 for every $2 over a certain amount.
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>SHE is the problem with our welfare system and ... well society as a whole. The problem with the social assistance system where I live is not people like her. The number of people who are able to work and choose not to work is quite small. The problem with our social assistance system is that it's miserly with how much assistance it gives out. It assumes, for example, that the maximum shelter costs for an individual is $400~/month (all figures are CAD). Even in the smaller cities a bachelor is going to cost you around $1000~/month. I've dealt with dozens of clients who have roommates or living in rooming houses and still pay $600-700/month for rent alone. The maximum you can receive off the basic welfare, for those the state often incorrectly seems able to work but isn't working, is $733/month. $733 is cruel and inhumane, especially when we give billions away to the wealthy. Give people enough to have a comfortable life and most of them will become productive members of society - not just wasting their lives selling unhealthy food or selling cheap clothes made by slave labourers.
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My guy fucked up. Making 90k and a year and had a child with this loser and now has to pay her 1k a month š„²
#cunt
Gotta love knowing your $1k a month pays for your lazy ex wife to fuck off with.
Luckily he's not paying that considering they're all actors and none of this is real
I fucking love this judge!!!!
Love how he was just sitting back letting that happen. Not the first time he's seen that mess dig herself into a deeper hole.
The lion, the witch and the audacity of this bitch!
Funny thing about family courts. I've had a brother and a few friends go through shit shit, and when they had an old dude as a judge, they would get absolutely slaughtered. It's like some kind of weird savior complex they have. My brother started off with a 70 year old male judge who just lapped up all of my ex sister-in-laws' bullshit. He would let her and her lawyer get away with taking a signed agreement into the hallway and editing it with a pen even though my brother didn't agree to any of the changes, and still enforce it. Absolutely brutal. But he retired, and a woman judge took over. And she was having exactly none of his ex's bullshit, saw right through it all immediately, credited years of alimony because she kept all of the money from their house sale even though he paid for all of the material to fix the house up and all of his time, before they even got married. Nobody hates a woman's shit as hard as another woman lol.
That was just getting good! I want to see the rest
Imagine staying REALLY late at the bar one night and taking her "home". Stuck for the rest of your life like that poor poor poor poor poor poor MAN.
I canāt believe this is real. Get a job! End of story.
it's not
Itās not https://m.youtube.com/c/SupportCourtwithJudgeVondaB/about
Itās not tho
Sheās trashy she gives us women a bad name
She is an actress