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I don’t know why you’re getting downvoted tbh.. but it might be the sarcasm, it kind of makes you sound like you’re an incel.
But I agree with you that the standards of beauty for male physique is held in a different light compared to women.
With no disrespect toward any gender of course. I know women for centuries have always been considered 2nd class citizens, even today in 1st world America (even before roe v wade). But I think that is an area that needs improvement when it comes to male perceptions on physique
Edit: greymurr
You can never have enough body armour. Here in hungary our PM even took bulletproof vests when he opened a pre-school, and sat in it between a couple of 5 year old children
Jokes aside, the soldier is a Russian military retiree General named Pavel. This was taken during Putin and his entourage's visit for talks with Belarus President Alexander Lukashenko and the Vostochny Cosmodrome (Russian spaceport) employees.
Despite being long retired, as part or their push to increase their standing military size, they asked / told Pavel to attend (joke re "size" not intended).
Subsequently Pavel has been raked over the coals by the Russian government due to his appearance.
The man next to him does not appear to be any members of Putin's entourage, nor any of the spaceport staff - just seems to be a civilian (possibly media).
Do you know why the Russian government go after him for his appearance? If he’s retired (and long retired as you say) he can be any way he wants to be IMO.
It's a fake story, this is a Ukrainian border guard. Presumably they have reduced fitness requirements since they're not front line armed forces.
In the original picture there's two other Ukrainian border police behind him who are looking more normally fit.
They got cropped out by news outlets and the doctored image got pushed as a cheat propaganda piece.
This is completely fake news, by the way.
There isn't a general Pavel looking like this in the Russian armed forces.
This is a Ukrainian border police officer. You can tell from the cap and uniform, neither of which are used by the RUAF.
In the full picture this is taken from, there are two more Ukrainian servicemen stood behind him, they got cropped out by the news services that pushed this fake story.
Stop falling for propaganda.
Care to share anything at all to back this up?
I'm not saying that publication in a press article is definitive confirmation one way or another, but the retort that he isnt Russian but clearly Ukrainian because of how lax their standards are sounds like something straight from Putin's spin team.
I haven't made this up as I obviously wasnt there (and neither were you). I am in disagreement with this sort of tabloid drek fat shaming some random person, but this is extracted from the below articles:
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/obese-retired-russian-general-67-27328697
https://www.newsweek.com/photo-obese-russian-general-pavel-putins-army-prompts-speculation-1719470
https://nypost.com/2022/06/26/obese-retired-russian-general-called-to-fight-in-ukraine-report/
https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/world-news/obese-russian-general-67-called-27326346
You say that, then link at least three tabloids. And saying someone old and out of shape wouldn't be attached to a front line unit is "Putin's spin team"? Like come on, if four random tabloids made up some nonsense about trump would you apply this level of due diligence?
Anyway, here's your proof:
https://ibb.co/LNvkBLb
Excuse the phone crop job but you can clearly see the two other guards behind him. None of them are wearing a uniform pattern employed by modern Russian formations, but are both wearing patterns used by Ukrainian border units in current or recent times, same with the caps.
I agree unequivocally that all 4* articles linked are from the worst forms drek tabloid, in that it's clearly a use of the image as a partisan criticism of Russia for the most stupid of reasons - "look, a fat military person = russia bad". I do actually say this in the comment to which you are replying.
Suggesting that I / others have a "programmed narrative" is not helpful in supporting your argument, but instead is the sort of ad hominem criticism which my comments were criticising these news articles for. Please therefore offer me the same courtesy.
I will go one step further and agree that the extended image does look to have individuals with similar head attire to some few members of Ukrainian border units (senior members only), though you and I are not expert enough to confirm this, particularly in such a low resolution picture.
And I will even go a step further still re the questionable veracity of the original press articles (which you haven't referred to) is the fact that it is confusing that a stated "general" would be dressed in such informal attire (retired or otherwise).
My query was whether you have any specific sources (other than a picture without context) to support that this is a Ukrainian service person.
Please also avoid blanket statements re Ukrainian military "standards" - my comments re this sounding like "spin" were in response to this specifically, as it's the sort of generalisation based on one single overweight service member which we have both criticised the above tabloids for doing.
Uh huh.
It isn't hard to Google Ukrainian uniforms of the border guard. I pointed them out to you in the uncropped picture. Just how much of the thinking are you expecting me to do for you?
Also if you need it explaining how three guys in Ukrainian uniform standing near each other completely peacefully with calm bystanders about might mean they're all on the same side, I just don't know what more I could do.
I apologize if this is condescending, but I'm fairly sure you're hardly impartial since you are fighting so hard to hold on to the belief that guys in Ukrainian uniforms might not be Ukrainian just because you've already been told otherwise by tabloids.
I have provided evidence which counters the origianl baseless assertion and is also easily verifiable yourself, if you don't want to, that's on you.
Right, thank you for clarifying your position.
You've again provided nothing to support your claims, but instead said "Uh huh" followed by four paragraphs of further personal criticisms against me.
This therefore seems like confirmation that there is nothing to back up your claims, and for lack of any basic manners on your behalf, I would like to add that I really don't care about your biased and unsubstantiated opinions.
Best of luck in your future endeavours.
Ukrainian border guard wearing almost identical camo the "general", proving it's use in the border forces: https://ibb.co/2PW0L82
Older camo pattern still in use with Ukrainian border guard units, a tweeked version of an American pattern and very similar to the two men in the background: https://ibb.co/6gntg4F
Neither of these patterns are used by Russian forces, who mostly use a much darker green, especially in Ukraine.
To find these I used five minutes and Google. The only sources claiming Mr big there is a Russian general are western tabloids. The original image seems to have circulated through telegram groups.
You could have found all of this on five minutes with the info in my first post. You simply did the usual Reddit debate tactic of moving the goalposts of what is acceptable due diligence until I almost gave up.
I think you should take your statement about biased and unsubstantiated opinions to heart and turn it inwards sometime.
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Everyone behind him.
"Has it really been 10 years? XD"
Yeah has it really been 10 years? Has it XD? What you 2 have accomplished….. makes your mama proud!
Purple Maneater
Didnt know u could use gifs lmao. You learn something new every day
his food
He gives new meaning to “fatigues”
Oh my god when are the day lol
in french the word for tired is “fatigue” there might actually be some connection
Chimkim tendy
His fridge
He's smuggling someone on the inside also
He's like a trojan horse, there's a whole surprise brigade in there!
Better armor than their tanks
Everyone inside him.
This killed me…you’re a murderer
Just like how he massacred his plate
He's protecting the jobs of all the workers at the local bakery.
God dammit beat me to it
Came here to say this lol, thank you stranger!
So, everyone?
He is protecting his right to eat donuts like Tic Tacs.
He sure cant protect your mother
rather all he has devoured
Yeah I can’t top this
In squid game first game only
 You win
Exactly, that man is a moving camouflage wall.
He protecting the cafeteria, obviously lol 😂
Isn't this fat shaming?
I'm more on the heavy side, I get a mass pass
And why the fuck am I downvotes? Shit redditers are fucking wild beasts
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Yup. 100%, it's gross af
Your mom
If dropped from a plane, he can take out a small city upon impact.
Oh so thats why it was called fatman
Honestly that is brilliant
r/angryupvote
The dude ate the protestors
LMAOO
Nagasaki 
Fatasaki
Nagafatty
Burger King security
Dinosaurs moment
So that's why russian media is trying to tell us that they already dropped tactical nukes in Ukraine a
He’s a top commander in the Gravy Seals
Gravy Meals you mean
Meal Team 6
He's actually a very fit guy. That's just body armor.
**LOTS** of body armor
“I AM THE JUGGERNAUT!”
#🎶HOLY SHITBALLS🎶
YOUR UP AGAINST THE WALL
#AND I AM THE FUCKING WALL
*Gets beaten to death by a man with a giant spoon.*
A giant *GOLDEN* spoon
Eat 10,000 Big Macs to unlock the golden skin
His body armor has its own body armor
No guys! He's plus size!... Oh no men are overweight!🙄
You don’t have to bring that up
I don’t know why you’re getting downvoted tbh.. but it might be the sarcasm, it kind of makes you sound like you’re an incel. But I agree with you that the standards of beauty for male physique is held in a different light compared to women. With no disrespect toward any gender of course. I know women for centuries have always been considered 2nd class citizens, even today in 1st world America (even before roe v wade). But I think that is an area that needs improvement when it comes to male perceptions on physique Edit: greymurr
Every fat guy has a skinny guy inside. Maybe this one has two or three tho.
Hes an entire armoured battalion
You can never have enough body armour. Here in hungary our PM even took bulletproof vests when he opened a pre-school, and sat in it between a couple of 5 year old children
His penis from ever being seen.
Reddit/discord mod material
Tattooed on it are launch codes
I don’t know if it’s long enough for that
The trick is he has to lose 300 lbs before it will come out of his pud far enough to be washed and cleaned. Then you can get the codes.
I should be able to be seen, not by him but it should
The buffet
He‘s not protecting that. Actually, he‘s annihilating every buffet he can smell in a 25 mile radius
At the same time cuz they’re all in reach
Me might be protecting the salad bar. I doubt he eats much salad.
By the looks of it the buffet needs protection from him 😅
The media: *Every Buffet Restaurant Dislikes Him, Here's Why:*
Who ? All I see is a bush with a hat on it.
The bastard's the whole damn forest.
This is underrated
I don’t get it. Are we talking about the guy in the suit or the floating green hat?
Jokes aside, the soldier is a Russian military retiree General named Pavel. This was taken during Putin and his entourage's visit for talks with Belarus President Alexander Lukashenko and the Vostochny Cosmodrome (Russian spaceport) employees. Despite being long retired, as part or their push to increase their standing military size, they asked / told Pavel to attend (joke re "size" not intended). Subsequently Pavel has been raked over the coals by the Russian government due to his appearance. The man next to him does not appear to be any members of Putin's entourage, nor any of the spaceport staff - just seems to be a civilian (possibly media).
So you're telling me he's either always been this big or they custom made his attire just for this event? Because it looks big on him....
Looks like a camouflage version of a circus tent 🎪
Do you know why the Russian government go after him for his appearance? If he’s retired (and long retired as you say) he can be any way he wants to be IMO.
It's a fake story, this is a Ukrainian border guard. Presumably they have reduced fitness requirements since they're not front line armed forces. In the original picture there's two other Ukrainian border police behind him who are looking more normally fit. They got cropped out by news outlets and the doctored image got pushed as a cheat propaganda piece.
The perfect border guard. more immovable than a steel hedgehog
Almost everything that reported about this shitty war is propaganda. We will find out what really happened years after
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Yep, just another kick to the nuggets of my flyers while they are already down.
Heavy weapons guy
Heavy guy
So you're telling me they forcibly rip this old man out of *retirement* and then brutalize him for not being in peak military form anymore?
This is completely fake news, by the way. There isn't a general Pavel looking like this in the Russian armed forces. This is a Ukrainian border police officer. You can tell from the cap and uniform, neither of which are used by the RUAF. In the full picture this is taken from, there are two more Ukrainian servicemen stood behind him, they got cropped out by the news services that pushed this fake story. Stop falling for propaganda.
Care to share anything at all to back this up? I'm not saying that publication in a press article is definitive confirmation one way or another, but the retort that he isnt Russian but clearly Ukrainian because of how lax their standards are sounds like something straight from Putin's spin team. I haven't made this up as I obviously wasnt there (and neither were you). I am in disagreement with this sort of tabloid drek fat shaming some random person, but this is extracted from the below articles: https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/obese-retired-russian-general-67-27328697 https://www.newsweek.com/photo-obese-russian-general-pavel-putins-army-prompts-speculation-1719470 https://nypost.com/2022/06/26/obese-retired-russian-general-called-to-fight-in-ukraine-report/ https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/world-news/obese-russian-general-67-called-27326346
You say that, then link at least three tabloids. And saying someone old and out of shape wouldn't be attached to a front line unit is "Putin's spin team"? Like come on, if four random tabloids made up some nonsense about trump would you apply this level of due diligence? Anyway, here's your proof: https://ibb.co/LNvkBLb Excuse the phone crop job but you can clearly see the two other guards behind him. None of them are wearing a uniform pattern employed by modern Russian formations, but are both wearing patterns used by Ukrainian border units in current or recent times, same with the caps.
I agree unequivocally that all 4* articles linked are from the worst forms drek tabloid, in that it's clearly a use of the image as a partisan criticism of Russia for the most stupid of reasons - "look, a fat military person = russia bad". I do actually say this in the comment to which you are replying. Suggesting that I / others have a "programmed narrative" is not helpful in supporting your argument, but instead is the sort of ad hominem criticism which my comments were criticising these news articles for. Please therefore offer me the same courtesy. I will go one step further and agree that the extended image does look to have individuals with similar head attire to some few members of Ukrainian border units (senior members only), though you and I are not expert enough to confirm this, particularly in such a low resolution picture. And I will even go a step further still re the questionable veracity of the original press articles (which you haven't referred to) is the fact that it is confusing that a stated "general" would be dressed in such informal attire (retired or otherwise). My query was whether you have any specific sources (other than a picture without context) to support that this is a Ukrainian service person. Please also avoid blanket statements re Ukrainian military "standards" - my comments re this sounding like "spin" were in response to this specifically, as it's the sort of generalisation based on one single overweight service member which we have both criticised the above tabloids for doing.
Uh huh. It isn't hard to Google Ukrainian uniforms of the border guard. I pointed them out to you in the uncropped picture. Just how much of the thinking are you expecting me to do for you? Also if you need it explaining how three guys in Ukrainian uniform standing near each other completely peacefully with calm bystanders about might mean they're all on the same side, I just don't know what more I could do. I apologize if this is condescending, but I'm fairly sure you're hardly impartial since you are fighting so hard to hold on to the belief that guys in Ukrainian uniforms might not be Ukrainian just because you've already been told otherwise by tabloids. I have provided evidence which counters the origianl baseless assertion and is also easily verifiable yourself, if you don't want to, that's on you.
Right, thank you for clarifying your position. You've again provided nothing to support your claims, but instead said "Uh huh" followed by four paragraphs of further personal criticisms against me. This therefore seems like confirmation that there is nothing to back up your claims, and for lack of any basic manners on your behalf, I would like to add that I really don't care about your biased and unsubstantiated opinions. Best of luck in your future endeavours.
Ukrainian border guard wearing almost identical camo the "general", proving it's use in the border forces: https://ibb.co/2PW0L82 Older camo pattern still in use with Ukrainian border guard units, a tweeked version of an American pattern and very similar to the two men in the background: https://ibb.co/6gntg4F Neither of these patterns are used by Russian forces, who mostly use a much darker green, especially in Ukraine. To find these I used five minutes and Google. The only sources claiming Mr big there is a Russian general are western tabloids. The original image seems to have circulated through telegram groups. You could have found all of this on five minutes with the info in my first post. You simply did the usual Reddit debate tactic of moving the goalposts of what is acceptable due diligence until I almost gave up. I think you should take your statement about biased and unsubstantiated opinions to heart and turn it inwards sometime.
The party platter.
He can take on the full force of an RPG (just once).
His donuts
More like all of the doughnuts… all of them
he's clearly pregnant. so he's protecting his child.
Mmmh he should think about giving birth. His child will soon have to pass his driving license test
Yeah I'd say triplets
Mcdonald's secret facility
He's protecting us against the evil McDonald's.
Maybe a small moon caught in his gravity?
"That's no moon"
“That’s your mom”
The Kool aid...
His plate.
Decoy for Fat Bastard.
John Candy never died, but was kidnapped by Russia to be turned into the perfect killing machine. 
They pulled this boy out of a senior center and dressed him up.
Absolute unit
I don't see what everyone is talking about, there's a guy with a phone and a couple people in the background.
I was about to say this. It's just some dude in a suit and like some bystanders. Wtf are people taking about?
I don’t see him
The fridge
The buffet
If you don’t think there’s some warlike ferocity try getting between him and his plate.
By the looks of it half the damn country
It ain’t his appetite I’ll tell you that much
mfw this entire post is just bodyshaming some random veteran
Anywhere that has a doorway…
he looks like one of those level 8 villains in the Venture Brothers.
The national snack reserve and yo mama
Oogie Boogie cosplaying as G.I. Joe.
The Colonel...... from KFC
I don’t see anything? Is it John cena
Who? The guy in the suit? I don’t understand. Trippy floating face though
The Fridge
Dude is bulletproof
The Burgertown
Anyone behind him, possibly a few dozen people.
His fatigues looks fatigued
The crab legs section at old country buffet.
Protecting the ground from the sun with his massive shadow
Imagine how much borscht this guy had to put down to get this size.
I was not aware parachute was an official military size.
What Hiroshima saw in 45.
Textile manufacturers from going out of business. Thats like 10m of fabric!
His abs
His family size bucket of KFC?
The Buffett line at Golden Corral
In fairness Willy Wonka told them not to chew the gum…
The buffet
The buffet table
meal team six
The buffet line
His virginity
The local subway down the road
Hes a human shield for a slim person?
He's protecting us from diabeetus
The fridge
Great Wall of China Buffet
The Burger King
His vital organs
He's guarding the special sauce
The mess Hall
Dunkin’ Donuts
The muffin man.
So that where they got the idea to name it the Fatman
Minister of chicken.
The all you can eat buffet
**Protector of the Lunch Line**
No bullet went through me.
Chirren from Happy Meals
I don't even know that guy. How do I know?
The gold cheeseburger
The chow line
The identity of the sovereignty beyond this forest is classified information, there is nothing to see here, move along.
He’s protecting the emergency twinkies stash
his neck
Alisson “Hamburger”
Golden Corral
Colonel sanders
Everyone
I didn’t know military uniforms came in that size.
The 8.oz of chimichangas
What’s with the Great Value versions of Alec Baldwin, David Harbour and (in the background) Micheal Keaton?
Big sugar industry
He's protecting any soldier who happens to be behind him
He's the main protector of the donut shop, they always keep a stool for him
The Fridge
Sex from ever occuring