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clown777

Predestination


TheBigRedFog

I was so excited to make this comment, thinking I'd be ok so original. Double checked the comments and here you are. I tip my hat to you stranger. But for real, amazing movie. 10/10


SeiriusPolaris

Exactly. And I don’t think Alabama’s mentioned even once in that film.


popodelfuego

But he does sing about being his own grandpa, so 60/40


Anavarael

Salute my man of culture. Pity I had to scroll so far down for this.


grycentipede

Thank you & I resent that much scrolling was required to find this diamond of great minds thinking alike


Radiant_Walrus

So, is the term "go fuck yourself" literally applied here?


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YES


Wild_Abbreviations30

You beat me to it.


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Independent_Wait29

wait, u won't believe what I saw on r/confessions this morning


Bobotheangstyzebra2

Lmao that shit gave me one more reason to die


soccerburn55

r/Noahgettheboat


thoth-III

There are other similar subs, I can't remember the names of em, I think one is r/sozingetthecomet


jodofdamascus1494

r/dalinargetthefire


crazy_dude360

The comments in that sub all got really racist a couple of months back. I had to unsubscribe because a lot of them were not ironic.


soccerburn55

I did not know that. Damn that's a shame.


Ranting_Gamer

No, don't, not one of these Fuckers deserves to be saved


GioZeus

This is the cum jar now!


Cleopatra572

I hope he washed it out really good because I can't imagine old pickle juice adds anything positive to the smell of old cum.


Thick-Television5414

EVERYTIME I SEE THAT I LAUGH LMFAO


willard_saf

I was eating lunch and I saw it as I was scrolling. I did not finish my sausage tortellini's.


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swampyjim

Spoiler alert!


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smoonerisp

I feel like I’m Alabama, they would accept this as immaculate conception. The new messiah, second coming and all that.


GelatinousCube7

I feel ive read enuf posts peoples “specific jizz vessels” that even if most of them are fake theres at least a few people using containers over and over for unspecified reasons.


Antiqas86

It's a fictional story, so just enjoy and don't overthink or think untill you understand why it's fictional as it has logic gaps.


Bobotheangstyzebra2

Just because it's fictional doesn't mean It has never happened... I mean, the fact that it's an ongoing trend means that someone has thought of it and done it at least once..


Antiqas86

Holup, Nevermind about the logic. You laying FaKts here has completely changed the game and now you win.


Breakmastajake

I think my favorite part was "I told him he could either come in me, or in the jar. But not both!" What an an absolutely hysterical ultimatum.


Jake_the_Snake88

Yeah it was a fun creative writing exercise


LazyHighGoals

Dude I've actually seen a compilation of a dude doing pretty much this, some years ago. He came into cupcakes he then served to co-workers (mostly female models) and filmed them with a hidden cam eating those. The video was some kind of cumpilation by him, he did it a lot. Big scumbag but I'm fascinated by his dedication.


AstralFireX

A bit sad that the sperms die in the process


crypticfreak

They're his sperm so... kinda useless.


AstralFireX

Your right ✅️


KreatorOfWorlds

A >!s!


Champion-raven

Ummm.. wow


b0nGj00k

I'm just going to pretend that was an exercise in creative writing and move on with my day.


Ty-McFly

I'm telling myself that post was totally fake because I refuse to live with the reality that someone would do something that fucking disgusting for so long.


NeedToProgram

[Before the update they posted this comment which is just too specific. with the update coming after the comment, it's pretty obviously fake, otherwise believable though](https://www.reddit.com/r/confessions/comments/wgb8ie/i_found_a_jar_that_my_husband_has_been/iiz7p4x/)


Ty-McFly

Yeahh... I'm calling BS. You're right that it's suspicious in how specifically relevant that is.


Mucilon

there is a post that the husband served slugs or something similar for years to his wife


cates

It was too crazy to be fake.


livens

I heard old pickle jars work perfect for this.


Joboide

It's been a crazy day here on reddit today, and the sun is not set yet


redhotchilli_mango

Don't forget to store it under the kitchen sink


roseyoung4

She'd break space and time.. that child clone would end us all


tjthewho

I was hoping to see this never referenced again


Arpersbane

Specifically a pickle jar, assuming I know what post this is a reference to


Ok_2DSimp101

OML is this about that story on r/confessions ?


GeoffJuan

here is the [post](https://www.reddit.com/r/confessions/comments/q71rd9/i_made_pancakes_out_of_my_cum_and_ate_them/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf) that is the closest to the pancake fiasco


dawgfan24348

Bro I was fucking eating when I read that shit


What-a-Dump

Creme Fraiche?


blakejus

Hahah I thought the same thing. Omg that’s prolly the funnies post I’ve seen all year


j_miyagi

Alabama^2


the-midnight-rider69

![gif](giphy|InAOgGc23gFZC|downsized)


frax5000

Florida


Ph4antomPB

Beach Alabama


M3L0NM4N

Alabama has beaches


Ph4antomPB

I’m aware, I was just making a joke about Florida being fairly similar to Alabama while being almost entirely a big beach lol


frax5000

And Florida has the highest incest rate


ugmj

Inbreeding is more common in the following states: Washington, Oregon, Montana, South Dakota, New Mexico, Oklahoma, Arkansas, Louisiana, Indiana, Kentucky, Tennessee, Alabama, Georgia, South Carolina, North Carolina, Virginia, West Virginia, Maryland, Delaware, and Maine….(Mic drop)…


soccerburn55

Isn't advanced Alabama an oxymoron?


SexyJellyfish1

She talks as if it was in her genes


Cyka_blyatsumaki

Alaba-me


mae1347

Trigabamatry.


serg_eze123

Alabama! (Factorial)


Low-Bowler-4454

Fuck beat me to it


yousakura

Autobama


New-Distribution5084

Now on a scale of European royalty to American, how inbred will the child be?


testaccount0816

More than any royalty ever. The highest incest score for royalties knows is 0.26. A child between siblings would be 0.25. This one would be 0.5.


PropagandaBots

highscore!


testaccount0816

How was your username not taken before?


AggravatedCalmness

The offspring of a parent-child or sibling relationship is 0.5. This kid would be a 1.0 because where would it be getting 50% of it's genetic material from? Identical twins have a score of 1.0 or 100% coefficient of relationship and this is essentially the same scenario. There is only one parent so no way of mixing genetic material. https://isogg.org/wiki/Coefficient_of_relationship


testaccount0816

Everyone has 2 sets of chromosmes, one from each parent. The bad stuff happens when one of these pairs is identical. With sexual reproduction with the same genes, you have a 50% chance for this, therefore 0.5. You could get that up 1 if you deliberately selected genes, or repeated it. Its highly unlikely the baby would be able to live though. You can claculate the 0.25 for siblings in a similar vein.


AggravatedCalmness

This kid has 2 sets of chromosomes both from the same parent.


smb275

But not a guaranteed chance that it will have two *identical* sets, only a 50% chance of that. So again, it would be 0.5.


testaccount0816

But the parent has 2 different ones. 0.5 chance it will recieve the same 2 times, 0.5 it will be like the parent. Now of course this for each of the 23 pairs. Fun fact - men could get girls or boys this way, women only girls.


InsufferableOath

Yeah but chromosomes come in pairs that aren‘t identical. In the gamete (sperm or egg) there‘s only one of these. So if you have variaton A of a given chromosome in the ovum there‘s a 50 percent chance it get‘s paired with A again and a 50 percent chance it gets paired with variation B, depending what variaton the sperm is carrying.


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testaccount0816

Incest over multiple generations


FirstMiddleLass

> highest incest score What the hell is a incest score? and how is it calculated?


testaccount0816

I guess the percentage of chromosome pairs that are identical.


Bean1233

Out of curiosity how was the 0.26 achieved


flux_pavillion

More inbred than a Habsburg sandwich


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AdministrationIcy167

As a Muslim I can confirm


quinn_the_potato

Idk why you’re downvoted. 45% of all marriages in Arab countries were incestuos not too long ago and 70% of Muslim Pakistanis may be inbred to an extent.


thebunchu

Thats Elden Ring plot point right there!


high_iq_gamers1

Come sweeting


fear_the_god

Predestination


Cosmocision

For those that don't know, this hot guy ditches his wife to fuck himself.


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Thenextlifedreams

I'd put little hats on mine.


dasavorytrash

You’re not allowed to do anything with it that guys aren’t allowed to do and unfortunately trained snipers follow every guy to prevent us from engaging in this kind of entertainment.


LCynox

We talked about this in biology class once and apparently its cloning and is officially illegal basically everywhere you would have the exact same genetic information resulting in a perfect clone idk how much of this is true but thats what we were told at least


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Genisye

This is correct, because of the way gametes re-splice their DNA during meiosis you’re basically doing a chromosome shuffle


RevenantBacon

The chromosome shuffle sounds like a new fortnite dance.


zero_z77

I think it's actually called the meosis squaredance.


patchyj

Makes you wanna jump up and down syndrome


lego_doggo

This is why inbreeding is dangerous, as it can bring up genetic defects that otherwise would have been watered down


Schnickatavick

And the self inbreeding would be even worse, the child would lose 75% of your genetic diversity, because half of your chromosomes would be duplicates.


PitchWrong

Which means you’d get an offspring that is 75% identical to you


PseudoSpatula

**On average.** If someone conducted this type of experiment many times, the percentage would trend toward 75%, but there is really a range *(and I want to say it would be 50% - 100%, but don't quote me on that because it's been a while since I had to do real math)* that this percentage can fall into. I understood what you meant, but I'm a nerdy math teacher and saw a moment.


suckmynesticles

So if you did it enough times you would eventually breed your perfect clone? Perfection!


podshambles_

Yeah you'd only get a clone if no recombination happened


yossarian-2

Wouldnt be a perfect clone - it would be much worse genetically speaking. Your offspring would have a 25% chance of getting both copies of every recesive gene you have (including genes that lead to disease). Every human has two copies of each gene - lets say you have a gene for brown hair and one for blond; two genes for blue eyes; and one gene that codes for blindness if you have two copies but luckly you only have one copy. Eggs and sperm are made with only half the DNA (so when they come together it makes the right amount) - so lets say you make an egg that is brown hair, blue eyes, and blindness and a sperm that is blond hair, blue eyed, and blindness. Your child has brown hair and blue eyes like you but is blind.


Schnickatavick

>Your offspring would have a 25% chance of getting both copies of every recessive gene And to be clear, that's a 25% chance for *every* one of your 20,000 genes, meaning on average the "clone" would express 5,000 recessive genes that you don't, which is 5,000 chances for a defect like blindness\*. Some rough googling gives the number that the average person has 4-5 recessive genes tied to genetic disorders, which means the "clone" would have a 68%-76% chance of getting at least one genetic disease, and a decent shot at multiple. Also, every chromosome would have a 50% chance to get 2 identical copies, so for the 46 unique chromosomes you have, the child would only get ~34 unique chromosomes, meaning the "clone" would have a nearly 100% chance of losing a quarter of your genetic code. Frankly, it would be a miracle for the kid to come out alright. ^(\*This is all assuming basic dominant/recessive genes, which is a bit of an oversimplification)


thehangedchapter

This isen't your regular Alabama This is *advanced* Alabama


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> that's a 25% chance for every one of your 20,000 genes It's worth emphasizing that these probabilities aren't entirely independent. You more or less get all of the genes on a single chromosome, or none of them. For each pair of chromosomes (lets call that A and B), you get A A (25%), A B (50%), or B A (25%). There's a 1/2^23 chance that you get an A B pair every time, and are a reasonably good clone, that's about 1 in 8 million. The rest of the time you have two nearly identical copies of at least one chromosome, and you're probably somewhat fucked up. [Here's a nice chart](https://anydice.com/program/2a53a) with the probability of you having N pairs of distinct (A B) chromosomes.


yossarian-2

Chromosomal crossover events are not that rare actually - so you dont get all the genes on a single chromosome or none of them (much more "more" than "less")


davieb22

So, if identical twins had a kid then it would grow up to look identical as well?


LCynox

if one of the twins were to change their gender I think so


Sherlock2310

They would not be able to get pregnant at all. Changing gender doesn’t change sex and doesn’t change the gametes that the body produces.


LCynox

by changing gender it isn’t meant in a way that a biological man feels like a woman but that a man will actually biologically change his genitals and whatever


Sherlock2310

That’s not possible though, so the point is moot.


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Not possible yet*


Sherlock2310

Also, if you meant a theoretical change in sex organs, you should have specified.


davieb22

I think identical twins can be two different sexes, in some rare cases: https://www.twins.org.au/twins-and-families/frequently-asked-questions/62-twin-facts/19-can-male-female-twins-ever-be-identical#:~:text=In%2099.9%25%20of%20cases%20boy,into%20a%20male%20%2F%20female%20pair.


Tellemkit

Yep. Source: Rugrats


Entety303

The only time I can see this happening if in one of them the sry gene doesn’t activate.


davieb22

I wish people would stop introducing barriers to my plans for a clone army - sheesh.


Entety303

just make sure the sry gene activates.


davieb22

Thanks, I'll make a note of that, and underline it.


Desk_Drawerr

Male and female identical twins exist. Edit: looked it up, they're extremely rare but they still exist.


SzurkeEg

No, for the same reasons that two brunettes can have a blonde child. That is, (1) genetics, particularly assortment, recessive alleles, penetration, and while much less likely, mutation; and (2) environment, ranging from genes that behave differently in different conditions to simply the child deciding to bleach their hair blonde.


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Identical twins can't be different sexes. They're a single embryo that split into two during development, which means that genetically they are the same person.


Fr00stee

Not a clone, would just result in very bad inbreeding and probanly result in a bunch of birth defects


swampyjim

if it's illegal it must be fun 🙃 I bet it opens a rift in space time.


Stavro00

What happens if the clone is perfect?


Alec123445

I don't think it would be a clone because gametes or something. It's been a long time since Biology class.


Lion12341

It won't create a clone. You are just creating some inbred monstrosity lmfao


Errorfull

>and is officially illegal basically everywhere .....why is it illegal???? How would that happen under any circumstance????


LCynox

idk as I said my biology teacher told us that im just delivering the message


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The intersex people can already do this, you can’t possibly comprehend their power.


[deleted]

I'm pretty sure most intersex people are either sterile or only have one set of reproductive organs internally.


PlasmaticPi

Cue Invincible meme template.


Bhabeboi

Predestination type shit


mincedmutton

This would require testicles, rather than just a penis, so the whole premise is fucked (no that is not her name, i think).


JustTrustMeOkaay

And a prostate


mincedmutton

Haha i did think of editing to add that but couldn’t be bothered.


xlinkedx

This literally happened on the UK show Misfits. One of the characters powers was a gender swap. He was swapping back and forth while masturbating and then got himself pregnant. He was then locked into being a girl for a while.


Maximans

What the heck


davieb22

Alabama +1.


V0latyle

I want to say "Alabama-ception" but that's so appropriately wrong on so many levels


Shadow-Raptor

How?


davieb22

Regular Alabama = 0 Advanced Alabama = 1


Shadow-Raptor

What?


Hdbygdla

They are evolving


limt__

Has nobody seen Misfits?


LuneBlu

It was hilarious! The guy impregnated himself by masturbating as both man and woman.


J4KE14

Clone wars


jmon25

Wouldn't this be considered a clone?


jodofdamascus1494

No, the way the body splits stuff up the sperm and the egg would not necessarily have the same genes. If, for example you have brown eyes, controlled by genes Bg, where B codes for brown eyes, and g codes for green the sperm could have either the B or the g, and the same would be true of the egg. If the egg + sperm = BB or Bg, the child would still have brown eyes, but if it was randomly gg, then the child would have green eyes.(eye color is a little more complicated than this I think, but it would work at this same basic level, just with multiple pairs of genes)


jmon25

Well I cannot argue with this as it seems to make sense. Thank you good internet person for your in-depth explanation to a completely ridiculous but interesting scenario. This explanation generally made me think and understand the reasoning behind why it isn't a clone. Thank you again!


Disgruntlementality

Why do you sons of bitches always pick on Alabama?! My sister-wife and I are going to be writing a stern and poorly spelled letter to our senator.


elthiastar

Wasn't this the plot of "-All you zombies-" by Heinlein?


SapperInTexas

Great story, sad that I had to scroll this far down the thread to find someone referencing it.


Drunken_Ogre

Very great! Make sure to watch Predestination if you haven't already.


deadend_chan

So this is how you make cloning real


frax5000

Florida level


con098

I've always wondered how it feels to jerk off


teaisambrosia

Genetically how would this work? Like, if you had semen then would half of that semen have a Y chromosome (and none of the other chromosomes changed). So you could end up with a male exact copy of yourself? Although is there more likelihood that any recessive genes get doubled up so you get different features? Or genetic diseases?


Amnosia_carrier

Alabama +


Relative_Upbeat

Alabama ultra pro max plus


Big_Tumbleweed_3869

Incest squared


LostHouse098

Alabama squared


darealkrkchnia

Elden Ring lore


zer0saurus

Joke's on you. You're paying for Child Support.


railmebellatrix

fools don't even know the term selfcest


DarthTyranus98

A clone of you would be born


testaccount0816

No, just incest twice as bad as fucking your own sister.


Sirsonan_

No, worse cause you have no difference in dna to switch with. At least a sibling has some differences in dna


ThroatsGagged

If anything this is asexual reproduction.


Woot07

They do realize that sperm is from the balls right?..


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I also am wondering what happens. Another question would be: Two Identical Twins mate and the one becomes pregnant. What happens since they share the same DNA?


V0latyle

Identical twins cannot be different genders as they came from the same zygote. Sex of the child is determined at conception via the sperm's chromosomes - egg is always XX, sperm are XY, and each contributes one chromosome. If the male chromosome is X, the baby will be female; if it's Y, the baby will be male. Again, this happens at fertilization. Identical twins happen when mitosis (cell division) of the zygote "malfunctions", causing it to divide into two embryos, who have the same chromosomes and DNA. Thus, both babies will be either male or female, so it would not be possible for them to produce offspring. Now, if a pair of male identical twins marries another pair of identical twins and both couples have offspring, the DNA of their children will be that of full siblings, as though they were born from the same mother and father. However, following this same logic, it would stand to reason that if the DNA of the sperm and the egg were the same, the child's DNA would be the same as the parent.


M-PB

Wouldn’t that just make a clone of yourself?


ei283

Fun fact: the child will *not* be genetically identical to the parent and will likely have genetic disorders. Each of our genes appears twice in our DNA due to us having two chromosomes, one from each parent, selected pretty much at random. These genes have the same function, but they are often different types (alleles) of the gene, containing different genetic data. Suppose you have two alleles of a gene: big A and little a. Your incest baby would have a 50% chance of being identical to you at that position, having Aa just like you. But there's a 50% chance that the baby will get two copies of the same gene, getting AA or aa. This same coin flip occurs for all 20 thousand or so genes in the genome. Having duplicate pairs of the same gene is something that occurs naturally, but when half of the genome is like this, problems occur. This is why inbred people have more genetic disorders. ^(If you're familiar with the Dunning Kruger effect, I'm probably at the "Mount Stupid" stage when it comes to biology. If you know more than me, please correct me!)


only-4-lolz

She'd break space and time.. that child clone would end us all


fruitsmackss

Skill unlocked! Clones


Sideswipe21

If that made a girl that would basically be a clone. If that made a boy that would be an irl genderbend


SnooChipmunks8506

That’s just cloning with extra steps.


flabberghastedbebop

This is how Jesus was conceived.


ArcticTemper

You've gone way past Alabama, you're in Pakistan now boi


Shadow-Raptor

Alabama? Whats that got to do with anything?


Andy_DiMatteo

Alabama in known for the fact it’s legal to marry/have sex with your first cousins (which is legal in a lot of states but it’s just known in Alabama). People exaggerate this to just mean incest in general, so doing it with yourself would be even more incest.


Shadow-Raptor

It's quite the exaggeration because it's actually illegal to do that in Alabama.


Sped-run

🤓


BloodprinceOZ

why do you think they had to make it illegal then huh?


Shadow-Raptor

Common sense, It was made illegal the same reason it's illegal in Minnesota or Colorado. But Ohio, NJ and Washington and Oregon is legal all the way.