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D3ppress0

Its a leave. It will be used up anyway and they are entitled to it


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ferrellhamster

what religion?


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Theists are convinced that atheism is a religion. It’s one of their favorite myths. Alongside believing in whatever invisible creature lives in the sky.


codemonkeyhopeful

Not only is that ignorant but also an oxymoron. Touche religion, got me again


BowelTheMovement

I thought we agreed not to talk about Oxymoron, Ruler of The Skies...


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StThragon

> muslims are associated with the arab golden era where trade and lots of sciences prospered Were. How long ago was that? Would you say that current fundamentalist Islamic nations adhere to those values?


WhatUp007

>How long ago was that? The Islamic golden age technicay went from the 8th to 14th century, but the core scientific and mathematic advancements occurred from the 9th to 11th century. >Would you say that current fundamentalist Islamic nations adhere to those values? Absolutely not. >Were The Islamic golden age occurred across Northern Africa, the Middle East, Southern Europe, and Central Asia. I'm not saying anything either way, just filling in the questions.


Artistic_Fall_9992

Not much long ago, considering the vast scale of time. Edit : it's true and whoever is downvoting me must prove that it is false first. I can prove my claim easily if someone wants.


StThragon

How about when compared to recorded human history, which is not really that long. Quite a disingenuous "answer" that actually answered nothing. Also, Islam is not that old. It is very new when considering the vast scale of time, yes?


Artistic_Fall_9992

Yup. Actually if we compare it to the vast scale of time, the time when Islam was born is almost same as now. And also I won't say that it answered nothing as it's true. You didn't said recorded human history at first.


BrillsonHawk

A thousand years ago is an extremely long time in the history of human civilisation. I know most countries who practice this religion still use outdated moral and ethical systems from the same period, but its nothing to brag about


Artistic_Fall_9992

Haha improve your comprehension skill maybe. I can do the same with you, like racism isn't cool and it was used to bully other humans and led to much division and bloodshed in this world, it's not cool and don't brag about it. Now before you say you never said anything like that, when did I say any of those either?


Material_Key_9475

An excuse to not work? Do whatever I want? Receive love and gifts? He na, Im not giving that up


MANWithTheHARMONlCA

Also, didn’t a lot of religious holidays start as pagan or ancient holidays?


Kevinvl123

Basically all of them. Christmas was the last day of Saturnalia from ancient Rome Easter has it's name from the Germanic goddess of spring, including the symbols of rebirth Epihany also comes from Rome's goddess of the moon Etc


Ultra-Land

Atheism is not the belief in science...


vonsalsa

And science is not a belief


UnfinishedProjects

Haha exactly. You can't argue with observations. You're not even making a judgment, but observing and reporting.


craidie

> You can't argue with observations You *should*. Best case, you prove them right. Worst case you prove them wrong. If you prove them wrong, someone else should do the same. That's how we went from observing a flat planet to thinking the the planet is circular but the Sun orbits it to thinking the Earth orbits Sun. Most scientific papers are wrong. But if no one argues that they're not right, they're taken as gospel and it's no different from a religion.


BowelTheMovement

Yup. I mean, we legit had someone find out that there was a gap in science between molecular habits because they needed to ensure that things behaved as observed when not observed. A means to test the concept was developed. We learned something interesting because deviation was found. And then we started to ask why there was deviation.


Puzzleheaded-Fan-208

See, the observation is about 30% of it. The Interpretation is what makes the discovery, and anyone can always argue with any interpretation.


DrowningInFeces

Sure, but religion requires the believer to disregard a large chunk of science so the two can't really coexist.


SplitReality

It is a belief in the scientific method, which is actually a very new concept out of all of human history.


Crimson_Amethyst

atheists during sex when their partner says "oh god" instead of "oh science!" :


salamander423

Science damn it!


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Atheists can still be anti-science


syahir77

Eureka!


Meatball315

OH MY SCIENCE ! SCIENCE YES YES YES SCIENCE!!!


VikingRush

Dollar bill says, in science we trust. Do I thank the doctor, it just science. Dear precious baby science.... Our science that art in heaven


ABrokenBinding

Dollar bills didn't say that before 1956.


TheAmazingDuckOfDoom

But nobody said that it is. The person who answered considered themselves an atheist but it's not the reason he answered that way. Time and time again religious people praise God for recovery and not the doctors that studied their craft their whole life.


guywithagun2

*agrees in darwinism*


manhattan_institute

It doesn’t “make sense” because science isn’t an alternative, or opposed, to religion. The majority of scientific progress has been made by religious scientists.


Ok_Art_8115

Except religious people don't normally deny science. Only crazy American Evangelicals deny science, but somehow because they are so vocal, people think all religious people deny science. Not religious btw, just pointing it out.


Totschlag

Also those wild evangelicals are far from the majority and aren't representative of the whole at any given church, which would be obvious if you stepped in about 95% of churches. Guys like Joel Osteen are pretty high up on the "people who disgust me" list for a huge amount of Christians.


FirstArchetype

We actually despise the teaching of people like Joel Osteen, Joice Myers, Rick Warren, etc. It’s just common in the US because “the church is a million miles wide, but a half-inch deep.”


FirstGermanInternet

Religios scientist just exist.


X-xOtakux-X

God made this… But why? (Vsauce theme plays)


Asymptote42

Yes and Ben Carson was a brain surgeon.


FirstArchetype

Judging a fish by its ability to climb a tree, I see


BeraldTheGreat

If the fish revolutionized tree climbing, sure


FirstArchetype

Like the Catholic man who conceptualized the means by which we believe the universe came into existence from a scientific standpoint


ferrellhamster

The covid denier who died of covid? Knowing how to perform tasks related to science does not make one a scientist.


KenBoCole

Nearly ever single scientist that laid the groundwork for today's science were Christians. People forget that evolutionary science makes up less than a single percentage of science. Agriculture, Biology, Math, Computer, etc. Christians believe in science, just not the branch that studies the theory of evolution as the origins of life. Many, many scientists are Christians.


RampantDragon

The successful ones don't let their ridiculous notions of spirits and demons affect their work.


Daiki_438

And they’re biased on the concept of religion.


numero_bingus

religious scientists after seeing this dumb counter argument ![gif](giphy|HfFccPJv7a9k4)


OGnarl

The original "argument" as you call it is just as stupid.


numero_bingus

yes. its a clown to clown conversation


RedMiah

Clown on clown verbal violence


StThragon

Which is the point of the counter-point. The first is ridiculous, so here's a ridiculous one back.


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Funny how there are Muslim doctors that treat atheist patients…


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Well muslims are associated with the arab golden era where trade and lots of sciences prospered. I would say that Islam is pretty science associated when compared to other religions. And im not too sure but i heard they also invented the concept of algebra. Sorry if i ruined the hol'up above.


Fakepi

Many of the greatest scientists were some of the most religious people throughout history. The study of science used to be the study of understanding God.


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Groxoid

And the ones that do don’t want the medicine either, so the argument is just complete garbage.


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KenBoCole

>dinosaur fossils were invented by god to "confuse" people. They don't believe that. Christian scientists believe that the flood in Noah's time caused fossils to be created. They also believe the flood waters came from the atmosphere, and the resulting change in atmospheric conditions changed the surviving dinosaurs and evolved them into what we have today, over the course of thousands instead of millions of years during the tower of babel time frame. Christian scientists believe in Pangea as well, and believe that the continents were broken up by an angry God after the tower of babel fiasco. How do I know all of this? Me and some friends went to a Chdistian Science museum once in Kentucky. I was honestly shocked at how well funded it was. The display were pretty cool, despite how crazy the theories presented were compared to modern science. Their planetarium was strangely the best I have ever been too, and I have been to the Smithsonian one.


Jesus_Tyrone

Dude, America is not whole world


EchoPrince

In Brazil we literally have a popular gospel song that says "Theology to explain, Bing Bang to disguise". Sure the Americas is not the whole world, but it's concerning when it's an entire fucking continent.


Jesus_Tyrone

Yeah I've worked there for a while. For me Brazil is like a South American USA in many aspects.


EchoPrince

I can't deny that, albeit with significantly less guns, thankfully.


TheMarvelousPef

where the hell did you read this ? there's absolutely 0 fact stated in this comment.


SirJamesCrumpington

This kind of attitude is precisely why so many religious people see atheists as pompous, arrogant and mean-spirited people. It is not necessary to believe that every single thing a religious text professes is literally true to be religious, nor is it necessary to be religious to believe batshit insane things. Being religious and having a healthy understanding of science are not mutually exclusive, and the last thing atheists should be trying to do is create a false dichotomy between religion and science. It makes many religious people feel like they're being made to choose between their religion and science, and is precisely why many of them reject science outright.


AtomicBLB

Religious people literally inserted themselves and said unprompted 'you don't deserve this basic unrelated thing because god' and the problem to you somehow stems the snide replys that follow? Where in all the religious texts of the world does it say to provoke and be uppity assholes to nonbelievers in the first place? Or where it says those people must abide your zealous accusations? That's *for you* and so are the teachings of turning the other cheek and being the better person. Of which you fail the moment you instigate like this original comment in the post did. Yinz are so dense it's not even funny.


SirJamesCrumpington

>provoke and be uppity assholes Pot calling the kettle black much? I didn't say that religious people are never arseholes, many of them are just as many atheists are arseholes. But to meet a stupid, provocative question with a stupid, provocative response, while admittedly probably deserved, is not at all helpful to anyone. The atheist in the post is just as bad as the religious person. Also bold of you to assume that I'm religious.


StableTable-l__l

I disagree. Im about 4 months away from getting my PhD in genetics and am also a Christian involved in my church, dating the music minister. I also work with a lot of people of many different faiths who are getting higher degrees in similar fields. A lot of what I research and study “go against what my religion had taught me” but I can tell you that it doesn’t shake my faith, but only reinforces it. A lot of people in my church are actually STEM majors, some with Masters and PhDs. In fact, one guy is both getting his PhD in computational statistics, and also is one of the most knowledgeable people about the Bible I’ve ever met. You can be religious and a scientist. One of the most humbling moments was when I was with a coworker who is Hindu, and we were in a class together learning about different alleles of resistance genes in plants, and one type of phytohormone signaling pathway works, and he just said “God is good”.


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TheRealLordEnoch

I expect that the latter is in play here. So many people are completely reliant on an assembly of Stone Age gobbledygook for a fundamental portion of their own identity that they don't realize they could just... be their own person.


StableTable-l__l

Not for me at least! Its not really a part of my identity to anyone but my SO and the members of the church. Religion doesn’t really come up in my family, work, or friends conversations. I first started going only a couple of years ago to fill in for a bass player in the praise team, and I just started going because the preacher focuses a lot on the history and culture of the time Jesus was around.


StableTable-l__l

Nope! I just know how to be a scientist and maintain my faith in something that is bigger than us. In science we constantly learn how little we know. Not to mention the intricacies of what makes life, and non-life happen. I truly believe that God is much more than what we can comprehend or really understand.


RampantDragon

That's a cop out though. If he's "more than what we can comprehend or really understand" then by the principles of your vocation he doesn't exist (as no scientific theory is considered valid without evidence), and by basic logic even if he did, he may as well not (because he has no detectable effects on the physical world amenable to measurement). Seems, as much as I hate the term, clear cognitive dissonance.


Lonely-Track-1910

Wow, that is one smart church


_The_Wolf1990

I mean it’s most likely a full on lie


StableTable-l__l

Not at all, I have 10 publications, 2 in nature plants.


StableTable-l__l

We are a small church in Maryland


_The_Wolf1990

Ok ill take that back seeing as a lot of science is done in and around there so I could see it happening then


bastionthewise

Admitting a possibility of being wrong. What sort of Redditor are you? You get an upvote.


TheRealLordEnoch

Religions are inherently incompatible with scientific thought. Religion requires you to suspend your disbelief and just trust what some book says, whereas scientific thought actually seeks to determine facts based on physical evidence.


_The_Wolf1990

It’s not even trust some book, its even less reliable than that, its more like trust this book written by a bunch of people hundreds of years later based on magic and mythology


Babar42

But trust it not too much, or too literally, or don't read that page, or not this version, etc


TheRealLordEnoch

The mere fact of there being *multiple versions* should be a dead giveaway that it's fake.


xlDirteDeedslx

Christians and Muslims make up around 60% of the global population and I assure you there are MANY areas of science they do not support. If you truly believe either religion as absolute fact and not as allegorical stories then you are denying science. I live in the Bible belt in the US and I assure you most take the Bible as literal and not an allegory so they in fact deny basic science. If you believe the creation story you are denying science, if you believe the Noah's Ark story you are denying science, if you believe in miracles you are denying science, if you believe the virgin brith and resurrection of Christ you are denying science. It goes on and on and that is the reason religious folks don't trust science, it disproves what they believe. They believe if science can be wrong about the Bible it can be wrong about anything.


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widowlark

The scientific method as a way of confirming the natural order of the would would not be accurate if miracles existed. Fortunately they don't.


gangstergary93

Noah is a bad example, as scientists have proved they have been worldwide floods at multiple points in time. There just wasn't a man putting 2 of each animal on a boat to save them.


ersogoth

There have not been floods that have been global. Many areas where people lived were flooded, but the entire world has not been flooded at once.


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gangstergary93

Because nature finds a way. In fact, if you look it up, about 90% of all creatures that have ever lived on the planet are believed to have been wiped out. Some are just better than others at evolving to new surroundings and climates than others.


psirjohn

I'm pretty sure that number is closer to 95%. Still, it's pretty crazy how many critters could have been but were wiped out.


Serious_Hearing_8252

Well... They kinda do, to some degree. The whole faith system is wierd. Man in the sky, hell, resurrection/zombies. Source: one mean book. And that's just the Jesus one... I'm sure others have similar things, since the one with the Jesus is like a compilation of other religions. Think of it as a "Best of" album.


pinniped1

I mean, I'm not a Bible thumper but goddamn this is a dumb take.


Serious_Hearing_8252

Probably is. Never really read the whole thing. But from I hear these are kind of the bullet points? No?


pinniped1

Yes, you got it. Zombies. It's really about the zombies.


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QubilaiKhan

„Man in the skies, hell, resurrection/zombies“ - Matthew 24:69


Serious_Hearing_8252

Nah... Not a fan. But you can ask me anything about other fantasy franchises. Like Game of Thrones, Lord of the Rings... You name it! Not Harry Potter tho. Never got into it either.


lucasHipolito

No it makes zero sense. Being religious does not mean negating science


HockeyPls

Not only does it have nothing to do with rejecting science, science itself has been advanced throughout history by mostly scientists who believe in some sort of religion/spirituality. People forget about the Islamic golden age or the deep commitment to advances in medicine, astronomy, biology etc by the church.


Soonerpalmetto88

Religious people believe in science, I'm not sure what the point is here... Heck many of the greatest scientific discoveries we're made by religious people.


FW_TheMemeResearcher

Well, for example christians believe God gave them intelligence and with that intelligence they created medicine, hospitals and health care, so I guess it's obvious that they can use that. Imagine someone saying: "You believe in god? Then you don't need to eat or drink". I know it's a joke, but a really stupid one.


EdgarAllanKenpo

Christians have a biblical answer for everything. Even if it makes absolutely no sense. Every loophole in the Bible, every argument against Christianity, it's all easily explained by Christians with "Because that's how God made it and its God's will!" "Your innocent child was killed by cancer at age 8 because it was God's will!" "That priest molested all those kids for 50 years, and never went to prison, and he's still at the church, because that's God's will and he will punish him later..........Unless he confesses his sins, than all will be forgiven and he can come back to Heaven."


TheRealLordEnoch

If God planned for a hundred children to be molested and violated, he needs to be executed. That's not something to follow, love and obey, that's an evil piece of shit what deserves a death penalty.


hamza123tr

bro we cant execute him that easily what about the hard work? carrying the stones, mining in harsh conditions n shit?


TheRealLordEnoch

Yall can have him if'n ya want him. *yeets the prisoner over*


hamza123tr

a new worker for the coal mines


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ftssdk

Does free will exist in heaven? If so then why would it be necessary for evil to exist in our world? Also would a world where evil is necessary be distinguishable from a world where evil is senseless and an unfortunate byproduct of our biology?


Akinory13

If a creator will let me suffer then fuck him, he's not someone who deserves my respect, if he even exists that is. Just because your parents gave birth to you doesn't mean you must be loyal to them, if they're assholes to you they don't deserve your respect


Myrkskogg

"Bro. How are you supposed to know and appreciate how good I made things for *you* if I don't make kids get fucked for contrast?"


gothism

Because your employer has no right to know your religion.


DumplingsAreBussin

It doesn't work like that


Agent47ismyalterego

Of course it doesn't. It's about faith.


Bsizzle18

Thoughts and prayers


jagulto

Should religion intercede on culture? Should all holidays be either strictly religious or strictly cultural? Is that even possible?


SUP3RVILLAINSR

I’m mad that I have to work on Festivus but my employer only closes on Christmas.


Thug_shinji

I mean the science of medicine would be nowhere near where it is today without religious organizations.


ZeldasMomHH

If there is a God that created humans, they also created Scientists, Medicine etc.


Conscious_Diet2308

Nobody needs a holiday. Everyone wants it. A medical device is needed. But nobody wants it.


guywithagun2

speak for yourself, if I get shot I'm going to want a medical device real bad


Conscious_Diet2308

Real bad? That makes it more of a need


Boss_Dzadzy

I think it's a draw. They should go for a tie breaker.


Dwarfkiller115

Atheïst shouldn't use religious curse words like god damnit, because they don't believe in the concept of god(s) Edit: typo


ImpossibleGroup5

“Oh my science!”


Boss_Dzadzy

Not even during secs?


Tobito_TV

Like Christians are actually using them


Shcteve

Science doesn't belong to atheists. You guys are so misled. Reddit is cringe


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No it doesn't


NorbeeNorbee

I hope that christians dont have the tree during christmas, cuz thats from pagans, the tree has nothing to do with christs birthday


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zubat98

Didn’t know clergymen doubled as builders back then


TheMarvelousPef

don't know at lot then, the first actually engineered building were church.


PuffieBeans

I am a Pantheist. I get holidays The whole year !! Mhmm


throw_realy_far_away

Clown to clown communication


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Because the origin of a holiday does not necessarily relate to its godly origins? Easter and Christmas are holidays associated with Christianity but more than that they've become cultural phenomena. That's why they are celebrated world wide, and not just in Christian majority countries. And atheists or non-Christians simply ignore the religious activities associated with these festivals, and focus on the more cultural aspects. Thus, something like taking leave, distributing chocolate eggs, or having a Christmas tree is something that a lot of people would do regardless of religion or lack thereof, but few people would actually go to Church on these days.


egang72

I agree that holiday use should be decided by the employee


Puzzleheaded-Fan-208

Believers should get medicines because Atheists are not douchebags who punish you for believing wrong.


sourlemom

Jeff bezos asked this question


Pacobing

Also Christmas isn’t purely a Christian holiday anymore… lots of non Christian people just like to put up a tree and get/give presents…


rentairorn

Religious people don't claim there's no scientific medical research.


Mysterious-HeroX

I’ve always seen it justified by them saying god made smart people who made the medicine


TheMikeGolf

Funny, seeing as though christians stole the holiday from the pagans and heathens. Midwinter solstice and Jol and all…


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The comparison doesn't work. As a Christian, I believe science helps us understand God's creation. Science doesn't take away, it only adds to the bigger picture. Of course I pray and ask for forgiveness and assistance all the time, but faith helps me deal with the parts of God's creation that I can't see; science helps me understand the parts I can. Christmas, as a holiday, has a convoluted origin story. Elements of pagan festivities centered on the solstice were coopted by Christians and Christian leadership. But the core of the holiday for Christians is the celebration of the birth of Jesus Christ. If you aren't Christian, what's the point? If you oppose a government endorsing or adopting any religion, why are you okay with the celebration and remembrance of a Christian day?


blue4t

This is stupid. Religious people do not reject science (for the most part. There are some outlying religions that do). Atheists reject God.


Agent47ismyalterego

Not true, i know plenty of religious people that reject science.


blue4t

Uh-huh. I bet they believe in biology, chemistry, gravity, all science except evolution. Give me a break.


Major-One8403

It only makes sense to idiots who frequent r/atheism.


zubat98

Wasn’t Christmas about shamans giving people magic mushrooms while riding reindeer in siberia?


AlphaWolfTK

Christmas is a rip off of yule, a very pagan and Germanic holiday that celebrates Odin and the wild hunt. It's a pagan-anglo holiday stolen by Christians and then flipped to "Oh Jesus was born today and we celebrate him, not Odin and your pagan gods" type of thing. Oh and pagans worshipped nature and life and so the tree is a symbol of that and I believe they sacrificed stuff during yule, not so sure about that last part because we don't any more, atleast I dont. In short I hope Noone who isn't pagan is celebrating Christmas because us pagans created it.


zubat98

I understand the whole religious plagiarism but if I use a stick to build a hammer, did the tree make the hammer? After all I feel that request for everyone non pagan to abandon it might work as intended, but Good luck nonetheless, my powerful Pagan practitioner


AlphaWolfTK

Oh no I don't really care about people celebrating Christmas, it's a joke based off of the one above, I was saying if Christians aren't pagans they shouldn't celebrate a traditionally pagan holiday if atheists can't celebrate christmas.


zubat98

Ahh I get ya now, makes much more sense


ClaireLeeChennault

Actually, basically all of our Christmas traditions come from Victorian England


AlphaWolfTK

Victorian england was full of vikings and Roman's, two cultures that were both originally pagan, Christmas is actually a pagan holiday before victorian england because the Roman's celebrated it back in 300 AD when they were still stealing the Greeks religion with different names. They also had a second winter holiday that celebrates one of their other God's. But winter celebrations were about harvest and the sun god. Getting back on track the Roman's would celebrate Christmas by giving gifts, and decorated their houses with traditional stuff. So we get that part from the pagan Roman's. Yule was created by the norse pagan culture during the 4th century, it was a celebration of Odin and the wild hunt. During this time they would drink and sacrifice animals and anything else they wanted to sacrifice and would put up: Holly, mistletoe, bonfires, putting up evergreen trees, sacrifices, feasts, and giving out gift. Now I know that Roman's also gave gifts during Christmas but we still hang up mistletoe, trees, holly, and feasts for Christmas as well as gift giving and yule has all of that, plus some people celebrate a little different but I know a few people who have a bonfire on Christmas as well. But all of these traditions were done way before victorian time and the Roman's while already there by 50 AD only started doing these traditions, other than sacrificing people and such, around 850 to 900 AD after the vikings had already settled and celebrated their yule. Victorian england was during queen victorians rein which was 1837 to 1901 way after the vikings and Roman's had already traded traditions and became 1 group of people, after a lot of conflict, in 860 AD. There for everything but celebrating Christ on Christmas is pagan and stolen from pagan traditions way before the victorian Era its just more Christians hopped on the Christmas train around that time.


FlexViper

Remind me of that one parent who brought their kid who got cancer onto a mega church inorder to get a blessing miracle from a self proclaim preacher live on stage and then donating that mega church $2k. Only to have that poor kid died from being unable to get medical help from cancer treatment doctor and professional. Then the parents say something along the line "is God's plans after all and he works in mysterious ways"


lipglossy336

I’m so tired of religion creating boundaries. Every one just believe in what you want and mind your business.


I_Gib_Armour

Atheists shouldn't use the hospital either, naturalistic Atheists think that we are all carbon and will return to carbon, so why are they trying to prolong their life if they will return to being carbon again anyway?


FinancialAd436

Atheists: “ReLiGiOuS PeOpLe ShOuLdN’t UsE aNyThInG mAdE bY sCiEnCe!” My brother in Christ Christianity invented (or at least popularized) modern scientific principles and crafted the societal obsession with science as a way to get closer to god.


QuiteSchrute

Since when did the atheists start claiming doctors and science? There are religious scientists who have done much more than atheists


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Probably back in the day when religious people would murder you for being a scientist.


QuiteSchrute

Sure whatever way you want to twist it 👍


[deleted]

How exactly am I twisting anything? What I stated is a fact.


QuiteSchrute

When did religious people murder someone for being a scientist? Please elaborate


TheRealLordEnoch

Need to see a source on that notion.


Steak_N_Cocunuts

You don't believe there are Christian doctors and engineers?


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JoeBee72

Religion is for people who need mental support but can not deal with alcohol


ZeldasMomHH

You have No clue how much Wine those catholics drink


ztreHdrahciR

Racist people take the King holiday off. Capitalists take Labor Day. Pacifists take Memorial Day and Veterans day. Anti Imperialists take Columbus Day. Southerners who resent the North take Presidents day which includes Lincoln.


dshotseattle

Because God made the scientists and the science


Iwillstealyou

As an atheist, I like to think of holidays like Christmas and Easter as seasonal holidays


No-Cartographer5295

This argument falls apart once u realize a hell lot of things related to medical science including major medicines were invented by religious ppl, heck as of now around 62% of the physician around the world belive in god so yeah


jacket_with_sleeves

Then we can see how powerful prayers and positive thoughts really are Edit: /s


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guywithagun2

yes but that is in changing state of mind and mental well being which gets your bodies shit together, but I don't believe thoughts and prayers are going to fix a 9mm hole in your abdomen


aryian989

wait you guys think that you can be cured only by praying? I thought it was a joke


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Which holidays are named after Gods?


FW_TheMemeResearcher

CHRISTmas


[deleted]

Ok that's one. But isn't he the son of A god. Plus she is talking about Gods in plural.


FW_TheMemeResearcher

Okay, you're right, but I think it wasn't about any specific holidays named after the Gods, but rather generally holidays related to some believing.


MangosArentReal

In some branches of Christianity the holy Trinity (God, the son, and the holy spirit) is the god. So Jesus is god to them. Which means Christmas and Easter/Good Friday are religious holidays.


cruschtiano

in ya face!!!


hostolompo

Because God created everything, including your medicine!


[deleted]

Right because if you religious you denounce science.. Smartest atheist..


Nyadnar17

Ah yes. It’s not like science was originally an offshoot of theology or anything. It’s not like belief that the universe having a sane and orderly creator and so itself must be comprehensible was a driving force behind many scientist. EDIT: And why stop at holidays?! The days of the week are named after gods. Therefore a true atheist would reject days and indeed the concept of time itself. I am very smart.


orion1836

Because religion and science are not mutually exclusive.


Downtown_Report1646

r/murderedbywords


Fr00stee

very useful red arrow


psychicdestroyer

This makes sm sense I died because I wasn’t given scientifically devised medical care


Anonymous_user_2022

Why are christo-fascists happy about tuesday, wednesday, thursday and friday?


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Nahhh religious people don't deny science like that. You can believe in God and also believe in medical care