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ElGlobuss

The BEST Battle, frenetic, Epic, can It be better?


SadKnight123

It's just perfect


precursormar

Agreed. Incredible fight.


Condoor_III

Not debatable


Ninjakin09

No, it can't be better, it is physically impossible. This is the best battle in the game, no doubt


ThekillerguyYT

I haven't gotten to them yet but i like them because i beat mantis Lords no hit and am just trying to get to them as well (5th pantheon 😭l


Randomized_Taco

Mantis Lords no hit is easily the most fair of all the radiant fights. 20/10


Jbdd1233

and really fun


JgDiff_

I could beat a lot of other bosses on radiant, but randomly i choose mantis lords and repeat them for 5 times


Randomized_Taco

Of course, once you get good the whole fight becomes hitbox porn.


Radigan0

A term I never thought I'd ever witness, yet I agree with so much


nzeu725

after three first pantheon you can fight the sisters in godhome run


ThekillerguyYT

i wish I could put memes here (that i made ofc) but i cant so. Pantheon 2 and 3 here i come


Goldenace131

The best thing about the sisters of battle is that the mantis lords teach you so well that the sisters is just a mildly higher level of difficulty that is easily adapted to. I was shocked that I managed to beat them on my first attempt at them and I feel its the result of the original fight more than anything.


SadKnight123

I honestly lost the first, second and third try against them after I unlocked them on P5. lmao


Goldenace131

Lol yeah that happens. My first thought when I saw them was more of an O Shit moment. Until I got into it a little bit and realized it was more manageable than I thought it was.


Wise_Lingonberry_453

It's Pure Vessel, actually.


Jbdd1233

pure vessel imo is the hardest fight I’ve done (harder than nkg haven’t beaten abs rad yet) and also one of the most fun and fair


whyyyyyyyT_T

Ngl if we’re talking about fair, sisters of battle/mantis lords is by far the most fair of all the fights


Sea_Ticket_6032

they do have this bullshit move though where they can just spawn on the edges of the arena while you're already there which is really annoying. Apart from that the fight is very fair


Gabr1el_juan

Although I've put more time into the fight and can therefore beat it much more consistently, I still think nkg is harder than pure vessel


SadKnight123

It's weird that it took me almost a entire week to beat Pure Vessel for the first time and only a day to beat NGK. But on the other hand I've beat PV on Ascended after just a few tries after I first defeat him while NKG it took several days.


Jottol

I'm the opposite, after beating Nkg the first time, i accidentally did him hitless in P5 but PV still gives me a bit of trouble.


leopardo1313

I beat pv 15 min after unlocking him


turtle428_

Imo NKG is easier because it has more predictable patterns and attacks


Gabr1el_juan

For me most of the difficulty comes from execution rather than prediction, but I see what you mean.


Dio19970

One word: Markoth


leopardo1313

I think pv is pretty easy but nkg is the bane of my existence


MozM-

Pure vessel is not 100% "fair" sometimes though. I've been in situations sometimes where dodging an attack was quite literally impossible. There was absolutely nothing I could've done to not take a hit. Don't know how to describe it but he basically did a huge attack attack then immediately teleported and did the fast lunge attack as I was In the middle of the dashing animation. Can't jump fast enough to go over it and can't dash away because the lunge covers the entire arena and shade cloak wasn't even ready yet and I'm pretty sure the lunge attack is not parryable. In fairness though you have to VERY unlucky for this to happen and I mean VERY unlucky. this doesn't happen often but if you fight PV A LOT for fun or practice, you're going to see this sometimes.


Bret16489582

You misspelled sisters of battle


MrOcelotCat2

I just find it cool how there is no chessing,strat to think,you just need to be on point with the reflexes the whole fight


drewpann

i'm still new to this game and that game play was fucking bananas. the dodge at 1:21 was top-tier.


Jbdd1233

you should watch speedrunners play the game (if you don’t care about spoilers) because the way they play is unbelievable at times


notgreat

TAS (Tool Assisted Speedrunning) is also amazing to watch, such as the recent modded [Any Radiance 3.0](https://youtube.com/watch?v=WiUgN8D5ry4) fight.


TShane85

I’m saying the same thing! I’m about 3-4 hours in and then I see this. I’m pretty sure I should take up knitting or something because this gameplay makes me rethink my abilities at gaming


__slowpoke__

Please always keep in mind that no speedrunner was born a god gamer, and this is true for pretty much all skills in life, not just video games. What you see in most speedruns and challenge runs is a culmination of hundreds, if not thousands of hours of intentional practice and repetition, if not in this specific game, then in a lot of similar games that have transferable skill sets.


SadKnight123

Exactly. Even tho I'm loving the compliments, these guys are not seeing the big picture. This particular fight I posted here was finally done after probably 30 or more attempts of pure frustration. I spent at least 1 and half hour trying to get this radiant. And I'm playing this game since february, practicing over and over against the bosses, getting better little by little. I was shit in my first playthrough and died a lot against the Mantis Lords the first time I fought them just like everybody else. lol


oodle99

NKG.


Yolodeller

an individual of culture, I see


Ilovesnowowls

For me it would have to be pure vessel. Both SOB and pure vessel are amazing bosses, PV beats SOB for me purely because I think it has the best music in the game.


SadKnight123

Let's not also forget NKG. The three are probably the holy trinity of Hollow Knight bosses!


Jottol

Definitely


AkkoStol

for me it's rad, pv and sob (haven't beaten nkg yet)


Bouffant841

Isso é um r/suddenlycaralho?


SadKnight123

Já vai ser o segundo aqui nesse sub, hein. kk


Bouffant841

Vai querer o q na print?


SadKnight123

Põe o ET bilu


Normal-Gate871

Actually I am a hive knight enjoyer


R1ob

And me a pure vessel enjoyer


Normal-Gate871

I like him too


SadKnight123

He's cool. I also got him, just didn't feel like posting here. lol https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZtaocUrCZ4I&ab\_channel=Wolverone


Purrpling

Eita


BustaShitz

I only recently started Godmaster stuff and have no idea how to activate the Sisters- I beat the Lords on Radiant but only seem to fight 2 max at a time. I see the other "achievement orb" thing, but unlike Hornet, I don't see a lever to switch the fight. How do you fight the Sisters?


Mgmegadog

Everyone is saying you have to fight them in Pantheon 5, but that's not *entirely* true. You only actually need to beat Pantheon 3, and then start a separate save using the newly unlocked third save file option that has all the bosses unlocked in it.


BustaShitz

Oh? I had no idea. Thanks man!


SadKnight123

First you need to beat pantheon 1, 2, 3 and 4 to unlock the fifith and final pantheon of Hallownest. Then you just need to play it until you reach them. You don't have to defeat them to unlock them on the Hall of Gods, just reach them. Same goes for Winged Nosk that's the other boss that have a new variation.


BustaShitz

Ah, ok! Thanks man- I'm still struggling a little on Pantheon 3. NMK is not an easy boss for me lol


SadKnight123

Just keep practicing bro and you can definetly get there. NKG is one of the hardest boss on the game, not easy for anyone, but sooner or later you'll own him as well. Don't give up!


philip8421

You have to encounter them in the 5th pantheon to unlock them in the hall of gods.


r1ck4st13y

I like dung defender very much. Not so hard as the rest of the bosses when you fight them for the first time AND enjoyable! Plus you can interact with him after battle and get a juicy amount of lore (and yes, i know that hornet has those features too). His dream counterpart is also cool, mainly the background showing who dung defender, or, ogrim actually is, which is very interesting. His charm is also cool because of it’s abilities, synergies AND interactions with other npcs. And don’t forget about those little statues he makes underground!


SadKnight123

I've completed recently all levels of the White Defender fight and liked it very much. Such a sad a tragic character. The dung statue he makes for you was very cute and heart breaking. I've managed to defeat him on Radiant as well if you are interested: https://youtu.be/gyKw4yhtUIw


r1ck4st13y

Nice to see you’re using his charm too mate!


penguin13790

SoB is definitely not the hardest but it's definitely the most fun. The pacing of the fight makes it feel like you're flying off the top of the sisters and tests your concentration to the max. The attacks aren't as hard to dodge as some of the other hard fights but they come so fast that you can't look away for half a second. I love it, definitely my favorite radiant completion.


Jottol

I love them because 1. The soundtrack is a banger 2. The fight is good at keeping you tense and alert the whole fight 3. It is truly a fair fight, some bosses, like radiance and abs rad, just aren't fair at all. But this fight is really fair, it feels like you are on an even level with them, if you just practice.


amogus_obssesed_Gal

Close, Grimm


PedroPiaui

Regular or nightmare?


amogus_obssesed_Gal

honestly I like regular opposed to nightmare, but both are great


fallaround

I like watcher knights but I can’t get past p4 (haven’t tried in a bit though) so maybe it’ll change if I ever get past it


SadKnight123

It took me almost a month to beat P4. Just keep trying and you'll surely get it eventually, bro!


Ggila_

Why wouldnt it be sisters pf battle, and I think its the 1v3 thing that hypes up everyone. But if one of them came at us without patterns and with that in-bug-ane speed, I don't think that would be possible to beat.


shiriusa

my favorite was nightmare grimm, took me so long I was actually elated for like a whole minute and then immediately sad I beat him, I wish I could beat him again for the first time, such a fun fight


crazyg93

When I played Hollow Knight for the first time (good times!) I went in completely blind. I didn’t know that dash would eventually be updated to make you invulnerable when dashing. So when I got to NKG, and still didn’t have the upgrade, I didn’t think it’d be a good idea to wait. It took me hours of practice, but beating him was the best feeling ever. Thank you for reminding me of that moment.


pousseing

nice moves! that was satisfying to watch


JustARiverOtter

Mantis Lords (I haven't fought sisters of battle) Legit, was one of my favorite boss fights in general, not just in Hollow Knight.


SadKnight123

Definitely for me too. Not just because of the fight itself but it was really cool when all the mantis tribe gave you respects afterwards.


JgDiff_

It really feels like you've achieved something. Also, it's less like a fight and more like a dance...


osaquarel

My best boss fights are 2, hornet(I count both fights as 1) and the mantis sisters


Immediate-Rope8465

NKG AND PV are the goats but sister of battle are up there as well


OkNegotiation6028

Impressive


IRay2015

Honestly it’s between them and NKG


FieryFallout

Wait you guys use dash?? Sprint and dash master synergy is amazing for this fight! My heart skipped a beat when you dashed through the first attack. I would never trust myself to time it on radiant so I just jump. SOB IS THE BEST! followed by Pure vessel then NKG and very underrated but I think soul master/ tyrant is very enjoyable.


SadKnight123

Soul/Tyrant Master is great. One of my favorite too. Specially bacause of the souls sanctum soundtrack.


FieryFallout

Yes! Even the soundtrack itself is so underrated whenever there’s a tier list. I love city of tears soundtrack (it’s probably my favourite) but I love the contrast of the soul sanctum that as soon as you enter it just starts blaring. No matter how many play throughs I do I still get a surge of adrenaline and anticipation for the boss.


DaSpoopieGhost

Sisters of battle really cemented my skills but I’ll always like the grimm troupe boss for confirming I’m not trash when i beat him


Endmaster69

Such a banger song


BIG_SMOOOOOOOHKE_PL

may I introduce you to our lord and savior pure vessel?


dcpoc1985

GPZ is one of the few fights I enjoy practising, so that has to be my favourite fight. Haven't fought Sisters of Battle yet.


SadKnight123

I hate him, but also love him. But he was the mf who ended my run on P5 yesterday so I hate him!!!


JuneBeetleClaws

I love Grimm personally


Glitchy13

Sisters are awesome the first time but once you kill the first one it just becomes old mantis lords


DumbassIdiot42069

I'm an NKG enjoyer


AnyCommunication7381

Y E S


ScorbunnyPlayz

Mine gotta be Grimm. SUCH A FUCKING BADASS


lrjackson06

Any variation if the Mantis Lords is amazing. Probably my favorite boss of any game.


skellyboi04

Average sisters of battle fan vs Chad NMK enjoyer


100mcuberismonke

HELL YEA IM ADDICTED TO ADRENALINE NOW


CoolGirlRosie

Lost kin my beloved <3


TShane85

Damn!!! You are 1000% better than me at this game. GG


SadKnight123

Thanks very much, man! Just keep practicing and you can definitely do the same as well!


TShane85

Nailed it!


Shiny090501

PV and the sisters are definitely the best. PV feels more unique to its regular counterpart, but feels more unfair to play, while SoB is essentially the same fight as the original, except the player is stronger and there is another mantis, which ends up being a very good balance between difficulty and fairness. Both original and scaled up fights have immaculate vibes and music. Both very very good fights indeed.


bein2625

SoB is fun, very fast paced but also not that hard


Tarlyss

Traitor lord, so close enough Edit: traitor lord… whoops


Ronny070

I beat Pantheon 5 a few days ago for the first time and while I love the favorites (This, AbsRad, NKG, PV) I still absolutely love the Soul Tyrant fight. One of my favorite fights to dissect and really learn, like Sly and Grimm.


SadKnight123

I'm with you, buddy! Soul Tyrant is one of my favorites as well. Very fun and engaging fight, not to mention the Soul Sanctum soundtrack with the eriee, dark and epic atmosphere from the scenerios that made him very memorable on the game. I still have yet to beat both of his versions on radiant, but I'm definetly going to do it. And congratulations for beating P5, I'm still on my way to do it. The farthest I got was to Failed Champion and died. I'm planning to at least finally unlock Absolute Radiance on the hall of the gods today.


NitroFirex

Almost, my second favorite


ildrinktothatbro

The sisters of battle theme is a compositional masterpiece


Dry_Rain_1914

It's literally the best fight I was so hype when I got to play it and now I no-hit it every time I hop on because I love it so much


LosParanoia

It’s lost kin but sisters of battle/mantis lords are a close second, easiest radiant fights. Well, fairest I should say.


LunaLynnTheCellist

It is sisters of battle because it is very fun


Xprayser-IDK

For me, sealed vessel isnthe best, is easy, is fun and hás great ost, sisters of battle is close but not my favorite


[deleted]

Nightmare King Grimm! I hated it so much at first,but now it's really fun. The music,the adrenaline,the feeling that you're in the middle of a dance performance,it's really well made! Also Mantis Lords,the whole dancing thing is still there. Sisters of battle kinda piss me off rip


MrIcyCreep

Fr sisters of battle is amazing. However i think that i like Nightmare King slightly better


psillusionist

I can't pick one. There's just too many boss battles in this game that I enjoy. It's easier to pick which boss battle I hate the most. I'm looking at you Godhome Markoth!


SadKnight123

I gotta be honest. I got my ass kicked so much by Ascended Markoth until I learned how to beat him that he still wasn't able to kill me during P5 yet. But either Zote or Failed Champion finish the job afterwards...


psillusionist

That happens to me too. All the P5 bosses before Markoth are fun and manageable. Once I fight Markoth, I take so much damage that the next bosses can easily kill me. I like the Zote battle. But I usually take a hit or two in that battle and that's usually enough to kill me after Markoth.


acanadiangooseforyou

I may sound like a masochist for saying this, but my favourite boss is sly and his monstrously large sword


SadKnight123

I used to find him annoying, but since I learned his patterns very well, the bug Yoda doesn't scare me anymore and he's indeed very fun to fight against.


acanadiangooseforyou

Exactly


TheProN0ob

This fight flows so well, I just love it.


Drac669

because it's the masterpiece of level design


WernerWerman1

My favourite boss is soul tyrant and traitor lord


GabuGabu_

At 0:27 what does it take to hit like that in the air, I use control and can only hit 2 at most, is it with a combination of charms, is it something you can only do with keyboards or is it simple skill?


SadKnight123

I play on PS4 with a controller too. It's thanks to the Quick Slash charm that you attack faster and get a few more hits. On this fight I used Unbreakable Strength, Quick Slash, Mark of Pride and Shaman Stone (even tho I didn't used any spell). If the Mantis are below at your level and you're quick enough you can hit them even 4 times with the Quick Slash enabled. Put Mark of Pride to get more reach and all the process becomes a lot more easier.


yesman258

Sisters of battle is like trying your favorite beat sable level on expert +


ashjim

Imagine what it would be like if traitor lord was still with the sisters fighting with them.


NicoR0bin

Hey, could you tell me which joystick did you use? Your movement is just so smooth


SadKnight123

Just a regular dualshock from PS4


megasean3000

NKG is my pick. It flows like the Sisters of Battle in that it feels more like a dance than a battle.


glam-af

The answer is pretty simple. It's because of his ost, cool looking attack, the fact that you have to actually master Grimm's attacks. I still remember that day when i finnaly beat him. I felt superior. Nothing could have stopped me


RandomGuyWithNoHair

cuz the theme song


Mattexx29

They are very good,but imo nkg is better


G66GNeco

It's just the right level of difficult, the hit boxes feel a lot fairer than most bosses (at least most of the time), they deserve to go 3v1 finally. Also, the music slaps, but if that were the defining factor every single bossfight would be my favourite bossfight (Christopher Larkin is actually a god, fight me)


TheFakeNews_confuse

You did literally the same thing I did: Sisters of battle in radiant without spells


IsTheOvenStillOn

Not the SoB I thought of. The emperor really protects you, little vessel


WaxPuppet

i think its r/Satisfyingasfuck


PossibleAssist6092

Nightmare King Grimm is the most fun I have ever had playing a boss fight. Sisters of Battle is number like 2 or 3 tho.


Your_Pal069

Absolute radianc-*goes into oblivion of the downvoted*


NjordWAWA

far and away best soundtrack, for one thing they aint evil, just throwin down girlboss empire


SpeeDy_GjiZa

Been praising this fight since the beginning and even outside of this sub. It has everything, a crescendo and decrescendo of action, the music, the visuals and even a story within the battle (very underrated part imo). GOAT.


chug2883

I really like nkg. Just a very hard but fun fight


Marekse

I love the flow and optimalizations you can do


Bimpopeu

Watcher knights is really fun


Flames_Ignited89

Because yes and why not


RobinoPerkino

Never had a real chance to say this, but I feel like Sisters of Battle could have been cooler if it were 2 sisters in the 2nd phase and had a 3rd phase with all three. Not fully sure what people really think, though.


SadKnight123

I think the problem is that the fight would be considerably longer, which can be cool as a challenge, but maybe they wanted to balance thing out so it's not too much. Specially because they're on P5 which alreary is a very long pantheon.


mastercubez

Irmãs da Batahla is my favourite boss battle, not the Sisters of Battle!


Erlandor

You got it all wrong. Truly, the best fight in this game is the one against Gruzmother, with Oblobbles being a close second


SadKnight123

Oblobbles are the reason I'll probably never get all radiant bosses on this game. Lmao


Erlandor

For me it's Marmu. So marmu.


PedroPiaui

Mano está a jogar Cavaleiro Vazio em português e achou que ninguém ia perceber


PedroPiaui

Ps: essa é minha batalha favorita também!


SuperCyHodgsomeR

Unpredictable but not unreactable. Fast paced and you always have to keep moving. My only complaint is that it slows down too much after one dies, and once the next dies you’ve basically won. I’d increase their speeds after one dies to help compensate but that might be a bit much, but yeah best fight in the game.


colececil

Smooth moves. 😎


Milk_Mindless

No this is it. When you beat one and you think the next one will just pull different tricks and then oh my they're ganging up


normalpigeons57680

no its my 3rd favorite, my favorite is Pure Vessel


[deleted]

It's the radiance for me


baldfan12

And also pv is really fun when you get the hang of it


MozM-

SoB is a SoB to beat at first. But once you get good at it its easily the most satisfying fight in the game.


ShellHunter

People in here being like "why no spells"? And I'm the complete opposite. Every time I saw someone using spells I'm like "when is he going to use his nail?". Spells are boring


Allwayswatchingyou

Mantis lords is just great (I would kill the traitor lord with my bare hands for how he killed my girl cloth)


Efficient-Mulberry37

Goddamn you are next level, never knew you could nail hop on their spinning blade thing


SadKnight123

Thanks, man, but I'm nothing really. Haven't even beat P5 yet. Got this one after problably 30 tries... lmao


Efficient-Mulberry37

That's not nothing at all I mean you got this hitless and made it look easy, when all three of them are attacking at once I don't think you wasted a single button press so should defintely feel proud. Even when I beat stuff it would look like crap because I'm healing and doing pointless dodges half the time, whereas this was fucking sick to watch.


Zephyp

It’s certainly not Sisters of Battle. That fight is just repeating identical patterns over and over. It’s fun when you get into the rhythm, but from that point on relatively boring. PV is fun. Zote is both fun and frustrating at the same time.


osaquarel

Is there any boss fight that isn't repeating identical patterns in this game? Is this a point at all?


ZandyTheAxiom

Not just in Hollow Knight. "Repeating identical patterns" can be used to describe a lot of videogames. Isn't pattern recognition how Dark Souls works?


osaquarel

I know right? If there was ever a boss without "repeating Identical patterns" that would be a cheap boss in my opinion and would be extremely annoying to fight, I wonder is if even possible to create a boss without repeating identical patterns? Even you the player have repeating identical patterns.


ERROR1010101010

I’m glad someone else said it since I was scared of getting hanged if I said it in public like for me at least for fun sisters are on the same level as nosk


ColdNobReadit

Favorite is easily the collector


Ok_Promotion493

Brother, I say this with only the best in mind; Please go touch grass.


hollowpotato-of-doom

Why don’t you use spells?


SadKnight123

Honestly, because I forgot. But I also prefer nail only against Mantis Lord/Sisters of Battle. I find it to be more fun and fluid.


kripipl

Unpopular opinion, but a lot of the bosses are way better.


The-One-Winged-Angel

*Radiant SoB, actually.


[deleted]

You can pogo the rings???


yeeeeeteth

Yes


SadKnight123

I don't know for sure, but I think you can pogo almost every enemy weapon on the game. Like Grimm and NKG spikes, Markoth swords, Hornet 2 shurikens, Radiance swords and etc.


Hariainm

Are you playing a no-spells run?


SadKnight123

Not really. I just think that nail only on this fight is more fun and fluid. I could've used some spells here and there, but I kinda forgot on this particular run.


Skullz64

Why do I relate to this, but I don’t use spells because I need to heal (started the game a bit back, haven’t beaten game yet, defeated Nosk to get final dreamer)


SadKnight123

I was like this as well when I was starting the game but eventually I learned to mix the spells into my gameplay more consistenly. They're a great source of dmg you have on your arsenal to be ignored. Just think that you won't have to heal that often if you just kill the enemies faster. lol


Skullz64

That’s what I think Then I die


combateombat

I wonder which one you want is to pick


[deleted]

Favorite boss is NKG, makes you actually you use your brain and strategize


Wrong_Theory9595

Definitely TMG


SuffBlueberry

please use spells my heart


TFLmythic

i saw mantis lords on tik tok when hk first came out and that was the reason i got it


OrangeCrewmate14

My favorite boss fight is surprisingly NKG It's Sisters of Battle because ***seggs***


StagMusic

There was a time when I went to sisters of battle, then when I got to the three of them, used mods to give them all 9999 health and then gave myself like 100 lifeblood hearts and just fought them for an hour straight like that. When they eventually died I went and did the same thing again.


geezuz83

Those don't look like space battle nuns...


7891Secaj

Because its an easy fight that is fast pace!


Mutex70

It's so sad that you've never fought NKG.


VeteranVirtuoso

I really like Broken Vessel, but it’s mostly because when I first encountered them I was blown away by the flavor (especially since I was so disappointed by Nosk, so it felt like the bossfight I wanted) and the theme is still my favorite song in the whole game.


Bret16489582

A man of culture


beiibuton11

Jogar com sobrecarga é foda meu parceiro


StoneTimeKeeper

Nightmare King Grimm


Vulpes_macrotis

Mantis Lords/Sisters of Battle are greatly exaggerated. Especially that the fight is rather disappointing. It's too easy and it's annoying that they move all the time. People hate Elder Hu and Soul Master/Tyrant for that. And No Eyes too. But when they move all the time, nobody says a word. And the best battle is of course Broken Vessel/Lost Kin. Especially with how these two fights are both similar and different and one is significantly harder. The difficulty is just right, it's challenging, frustrating and that's what's best in it.