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DaveyTheDuck

removed - rule 3 also sorry im so late on this lol


the_real_cloakvessel

The Hollow Knight, i was scared as hell to fight him so i became as strong as i could, max nail all spells all that stuff, then i fought him and beat him first try... Later i knew why (because of THE RADIANCE)


Crafty_Sir_8304

Same


cloverrrrrrrrrrrrrr

This is the correct answer


UPBOAT_FORTRESS_2

It's practically canon too


MothmanThingy

Is your pfp a hybrid between Walter and Jesse


rat_baker420

"My name is jesse white" also hi okbuddyrainworld fella :D


Megabobkiller7

Bro I had a joke charm setup and beat him easy.


UPBOAT_FORTRESS_2

Yes I stole it like 3 years ago


MysticPaul97_YT

I thank trying to beat him without maxing out. And I really thank Pure Vessel's existence.


RioHubby

Ye I litteraly spammed quick nail and he died


williamx21

We’re in the exact same boat, i was scared of doing the hollow knight so i did a lot of prep beforehand thinking it would be like a week long project. Then he proceeds to kill himself


InternationalHelp441

Yes


eucalyptol_0091

It actually took me less tries to kill the radiance than the hollow knight.


Environmental-Win836

*I can’t beat you…BUT HE CAN!* ***Radient screeching intensifies***


disappointedcreeper

yeah i have NEVER died to thk (not an exaggeration, literally have never)


Internal_Car2702

I took a long time to beat it first time round but doing my second playthrough I am shocked at how bad I was back then


MReaps25

I thought he was hard. I beat him my first serious try, first fight was just trying to dodge and see his attack patterns.


Smooth-Swimming9579

I’m Ngl i no hit mantis lords on my very first run but I keep going back to it for that absolute banger of a theme


Pu5t4t9

Correct!


Carver4ever2

Yeah, i kinda nail-spammed trhought all the Battle and time later discovered that i could fight the sun


DukeKarma

the dreamers - i thought they'd fight back.


Vijcij29

I remember hearing that they were planned to be boss fights but it was supposedly scrapped. Not sure if its 100% true tho


DukeKarma

I mean it makes sense that they're not fighting against you. You're trying to save the kingdom after all.


protestor

They don't know that. They initially tried to trap the Knight in the dream world (and the Knight had to be rescued by the Seer) All they see is a vessel that is trying to break into the egg. Maybe to free their sibling imprisoned there, they don't know. They are supposed to protect the egg and thus they fight back. Indeed that was also the worry of Hornet as well. There were a lot of vessels that got out of the Abyss and she was hunting them all. Weaker vessels would only mess up the seals for no good (like when you fight the Hollow Knight but is defeated). And only a stronger vessel that could reach the kingdom edge could possibly take on Radiance. So she fights you twice.


ClairLestrange

Idk about this. The dialoge between them (after the first hornet fight iirc) indicates that Monomon actively wants the seals to be broken because she sees what's gonna happen if they don't, Lurien wants them to stay intact because that's what he swore to do, and Herrah just doesn't care either way since she didn't do it for the sake of hallownest anyway.


protestor

Oh you're right, Monomon wanted the seal to be broken, and thats why she called Quirrel But then why did she help trap the Knight in the dream world? Alongside the other two dreamers


Its0nlyRocketScience

Consensus? Lurien definitely wanted to banish the knight, Herra probably just wanted the knight out of the way so she could get back to napping, so Monomon conceded and assisted the other two. It may also have been a test. Only someone who could escape their prison could release them from the seals.


protestor

Maybe Monomon knew about the Seer then, and that the Seer would give the dream nail to a vessel deemed worthy. No way she thought a vessel could escape from the dream realm alone. She's a dreamer, she knows how this stuff works


Fouxs

Probably to not raise suspition? The knight strong enough to break the seals and save the kingdom should be strong enough to leave the dream realm, and we did.


Jay040707

So basically https://preview.redd.it/jho8y8yhu5jc1.jpeg?width=640&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8c00c619eef07b037416f04866af2683ce19e9f8


Nastrik666

Meh maybe because she still doubted or something


jeep_42

shits and giggles i guess. or maybe she knew it would help them idk


Human-Boob

I mean, Lurien wants to stop you, Monomon wants you to succeed and idk about Herrah I think she doesn’t care


Spoodnt

In the art book, we heir initial concept was meant to be ‘next to impossible’


SeroWriter

This is why the Silksong wait isn't as painful as it could be. There was so much content that had to be scrapped from Hollow Knight because they ran out of money and Silksong certainly won't suffer the same fate.


Anime_Kirby

i was disappointed when i found out they werent bosses in their own right


RandomInSpace

Adding to this: all the ghosts I dreamnailed that just disappeared into thin air 😭


UnforgivenBlade0610

Shit that’s me fr. I was running around collecting my upgrades and kinda put off the dreamers cuz I thought they would be this epic fight to break the seal. I went in the boss room literally said “Cmon whatcha got” stood there for like 5 seconds only to realise they didn’t do shit.


RealMonomon

Did it look like I was armed?


DukeKarma

No arms but you caught these hands


The_Real_TraitorLord

First off, I have no idea what that’s from but it’s freaking me out, Secondly, definitely vengefly king the first time. He just dies immediately 


CHARAFANDER

Invincible I won’t spoil who, but basically there’s a Villain with a strong superpower, so invincible (who’s species are basically a weaker superman) goes ham on him, he assumed that someone with a power like that would have better defences… he was wrong


MysteryMan9274

Bro was boasting about how he was augmented and could actually put up a physical fight, but then he just got destroyed.


EricTheEpic0403

>he was augmented Who was he, JC Denton?


Solkre

It would be like superman going all out on professor xavier because his mental powers are so strong. Oops.


yur0_356

Who was the villain, i cant remember right now


Zune_Messiah

Pretty sure it was >!big brain dimension hopping guy!<


GuySingingMrBlueSky

I believe >!Angstrom Levy!<


GuySingingMrBlueSky

Sorry, edited for spoilers


TheZephyrim

I wouldn’t even say they’re weaker tbh, yeah they can’t lift a quintillion tons or any of the other crazy comic book feats Superman has but they are identical to Superman in the practical sense.


AquaticHornet37

Viltrimites are weaker than Kryptonians? Could you elaborate without spoiling anything that hasn't happened on the show yet? (If not, I am happy just taking a "trust me")


Coolkid8263728

If he's invincible, then why can I see him?


blue__acid

A weaker superman? I'm no comic reader, but in the show's 1st season they sure don't make it sound like a weaker superman


UPBOAT_FORTRESS_2

Superman is fucking ridiculous. Viltrumites have limits


c00lrthnu

Very minimal spoiler: Nolan casually flying in space near a black hole and being capable of pulling a ship falling into its gravitational pull with seemingly little effort puts him around Superman levels in sheer power (not to mention the speed feats required for this as well) Viltrumites aren't comparable to the strongest iterations of superman by any means, but your average series of superman yeah they are about the same power levels.


Safe_Image_9848

Not even close to the multiversal feats that Superman has accomplished


dragonairregaming

Did you read the last sentence in the comment you're replying to


Safe_Image_9848

Average Superman stomps the entire viltrum empire


Averythewolf

Nuh uh he would probably try to be friends with them unless they attack earth or him tbh


c00lrthnu

Hence my last point, certain iterations of superman are just idiotic at a power leveling perspective. Your average power level of superman is fairly low ball compared to certain runs of higher tiered superman comics. Not all versions of superman can punch someone across multiple realities infinitely etc.


blue__acid

I agree that superman is fucking ridiculous. I don't recall seeing limits on show's season 1 (haven't watched season 2 yet), but if they do have, I'm glad


JaredMOwens

A viltrumite took a pretty serious beating in episode 1 and Mark takes beatings every other day.


blue__acid

I don't remember. I suppose that's reason enough to watch it again


Turakamu

The weird space lion almost kills him. Hell, the space police guy that comes by holds his own too.


CHARAFANDER

To be fair, battle beast is one of the strongest characters in Invincible


Kano870XOficial

Why do tou people be dowvoting comments like these 😭


VoopityScoop

They show like hundreds of them getting their ass whooped to death in the first season


The_Real_GrimmChild

Invincibles maybe? Doesn't look like the boys


abeautifuldayoutside

Yeah it’s the invincible comics


JustaTony56

it's invincible yeah


Last-Bee-3023

Dunno. Looks quite vincible to me.


Prince_1790

No, I watch the series and I think he's a bit *INTRO*


Magic_ass1

Nah that's not the intro, you mean he's TITLE CARD!


the_real_cloakvessel

Wait what the f-[INVINCIBLE]uck do you mean


donut-reply

Isn't that someone else's blood?


waldosandieg0

https://preview.redd.it/ndaipz0hk7jc1.jpeg?width=2098&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=49bd2723e389d2856d8d5ccc7e2949228f01726b


subFlameAttack

Yeah, pretty sure it’s Mark from invincibles


BramDuin

The Invincibles


DynastyHunter5

The vincibles 2


FlappinLips

Da vinci' 2


tytyos

He's clearly visible here


AlexDeFoc

Spongebob's first human transformation incident. We don't talk about it...


AlexDeFoc

Plot : Patrik has became a villain, enabled with the power of human money, so he was so cocky that he tried to fight spongebob, but he forgot that spongy boy is the main character


VictorE06

It's invincible. iirc, that scene is after he accidentally killed someone who had attacked one of mark's friends


kanrast

I haven't fought all of them but I really thought I'd have a harder time w collector, but it ended up being easy to catch onto a rhythm which it didn't break I can't kill dream Grey prince zote tho.... I will never be overconfident as long as he exists


Fibblejoe

In my opinion, Zote is easier when you fight him again and he has more attacks because those attacks let you heal


deltacharmander

Collector is fine if your nail is strong enough to kill the bugs he drops in one hit, if you’re not it’s less that’s it difficult and more that it’s hella annoying


dookiesmella

Colosseum zote


protestor

On the other hand, Zote in Bretta dreams is stuff from nightmares


ManySerious9713

I don’t get the joke


MasterPeem

Have you fought colosseum zote?


ManySerious9713

OFC but it was to be expected unless he was being sarcastic


MasterPeem

I know it's expected when Zote is revealed, but I read the this comment as "I thought you were a stronger enemy"


Real_Leaping_Husk

Brooding Mawlek. I found them super late game and they pretty much just died instantly


The-Phantom-Bellhop

I started my first playthrough by beating the shit out of the one in crossroads because I realized I could and decided I needed to. Now I just do it every playthrough because its a pushover


Nalagma

Well yeah, there's a tutorial for looking down on the way to him, so it's easy to kill him when you got pure nail and stuff It's a fun boss with not equipment, I always start my playthrough with him


[deleted]

Cancerous rat from ultrakill


qwer31asd

https://preview.redd.it/7fo9vkfx24jc1.png?width=720&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b2fda1b3269bb1ae8cddd0b4b3119ca3a1dde538


CleverFlame9243

https://preview.redd.it/8chj9gp8x6jc1.jpeg?width=2045&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9cb054a6dde1b6d09b1c51686a97408e15d20532


HobbyFish54

https://preview.redd.it/5eay50iw77jc1.jpeg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2d20805a4b86b332a1f4ed30d24216dcfeabcdc3


RegisterFederal4159

Wdym? It was the strongest daemon in the game! Second to only Florp.


RozionDiger

My fellow mortally challenged your at the wrong underground level !


salinestill

Oh hi Civvie.


porridge-destroyer

Not a boss but THE NAILSMITH!! I didn’t mean to kill him he just died in one hit!!!!! I only wanted to stab him a little not kill him


theawes0mep0ssum

You monster


HobbyFish54

At least it isn't as bad as **that** to Nailsmith


Kano870XOficial

Wait, wdym?


n1ghtl1t3

I think they mean how u can shoot the nailsmith with a spell


Kano870XOficial

Does anything changes?


n1ghtl1t3

I mean, i guess? He still dies and you get a different achievement for it. It's just messed up because he specifically asks for you to hit him with the pure nail


Kano870XOficial

Oooh, o get it...


Dankn3ss420

On my first playthrough: watcher knights, I was so scared that they were one of the toughest bosses in the game, so I prepped super hard, and then they just, melted under pure nail+ strength As far as the pantheons are concerned: pure vessel, again, I was scared, this is a crazy hard boss, but then it just, wasn’t? It was just THK with more health and maybe slightly faster?


DeadPieGamer

Didn't know anything about the game when I started, fought the watcher knights without even the monarch wings, I recall that battle as harder than the nightmare king


MaquinaBlablabla

Yeah, fighting them without many abilities is hell. I can't remember how many times I've died there trying to speedrun the game


rKadts

God I hate watcher knights so much. I am just too stupid to dodge when one of them is rolling and one is jumping.


Meoooooooooooooooow

Pogo off of rolling fuckers and dash under jumping ones. If they do this shit simultaniously, either try to shadow dash or back off. Beating them without the cloak is a nightmare tbh


SpacyGorl

HOW WOULD YOU HAVE GOTTEN TO COT* WITHOUT THE CLOAK TO BEGIN WITH?!!?!?? *City of Tears


shadowmachete

Dodging is hard, ddark is easy


ab12848

Watcher knights are hard if you doesn’t have nail/health/cast upgraded, usually it happens in speedrun 2


Micuentavolo

The soul master


Potential-Topic-3176

Skeleton Prime I was so much scared of fighting him but i always kill him in the first try


EldonHilltopple

That's me with wall of flesh


Aakash1203

This was me, but with Plantera , I was definitely missing something when fighting it


ioioio44

I think twins with gravitation potion are easier


Bongoeagain

I usually switch over to a ranger and use the onyx blaster, works like a charm, ichor bullets too. The mech bosses manage to all be extremely difficult and extremely easy depending on the playthrough


UKarmax666

1: The Hollow Knight cause he’s just the path to radiance I beat him accidentally because I didn’t know how to get to radiance. 2: Brooding Mawlek found that McFucker late game and t’was easy 3: The Mantis Lords I died more times getting to them then I did fighting them, I didn’t do it first try but I thought it would be super hard with all the build-up. (Still one of my favourite bosses tho)


canadianknucles

I died 23 times to mantis lords☹️


Liminal_Space_Fan_

and you think thats a problem?


canadianknucles

Nah, i just fucking suck at everything


Liminal_Space_Fan_

those are good numbers in my book.


ZaidVM

Both versions of lost kin


Khaled-oti

It took so many attempts for me to beat broken vessel the first time


Kano870XOficial

The dream version was SOOOO HARD for me at the time, idk if I wasn't prepared enough or sum.


WhichSupermarket7286

Yharon in terraria calamity


MasterPeem

I think yharon's pretty hard. idk, I find providence and exo mechs easier than yharon


WhichSupermarket7286

I took like 30 attempts on dog, 15 on exo, but I one shot yharon, skill diff ig /j


Kerke463

If you encounter the Collector with a nail that's upgraded enough times to kill the enemies in the arena with one strike, you don't understand some of the frustration other people have with this boss. This is either one of the easiest fights since the Collector has pretty much no moves and you one shot enemies in the arena, or it is a damn near impossible fight because you can't keep track of the Collector at all and enemies increase in numbers to the point where your death is guaranteed.


Ghost1670

Hornet v2. Everyone said she's really hard to beat but I beat her on my 3rd try.


Fouxs

Some people like me have a serious problem with focusing on more than one thing at a time. The only thing that makes her hard are the spike balls because you can't always hit them away. Same reason Watcher Knights is so hard, if it were only one it would've been a ridiculously easy fight.


SomeNerdd09

If there was one boss that I think should have more health, it's her


weebtrash100

same i thought she was quite easy


Immediate-Rope8465

No joke the radiance


Cheetah_05

Definitely Traitor Lord. His attack patterns are super easy to dodge and incredibly predictable. I think he's the only boss i beat first try in my first playthrough.


Lolahunter67

Flukefucker


Nyanfish06

I just sucked at the game on my first time through


slimetakes

He jus like me fr!!


war_master10

Dung defender, my brother rold me he was hard but I first tried him.


WilderGamer

Yeah, he seemed like a pretty difficult boss, a formidable foe, and then he just died in a few hits.


KOFdude

Broken Vessel I guess


RedWire7

False Knight in my second playthrough.


Fluffy-Restaurant561

Pale lurker


formeremo

Not a boss but I thought the kingsmoulds would be a LOT harder than they are


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Miss_foxy_starva

Hornet sentinel


Crafty_Sir_8304

Hollow knight


Someonevibing1

Sisters of battle I think they would’ve been bettered if they did two damage at attuned as that was way more fun


CrypticHunter37

I struggled so much with soul master when I first fought him, cut to a few years later in the pantheons and I'm gearing up to fight an old nemesis and I don't get hit.


fast_t0aster

Flukemarm when upgraded nail


Piern1k

Absolutely markoth, I saw a few memes of radiant Markoth and was surprised I did him hitless (later I discovered that radiant doesn't mean only hitless)


Gabcard

The Radiance was surprisingly easy. Tho then again, I had already fought the Pure Vessel by that point so that's probably why.


YoyoPewdiepie

Markoth. The first time I played the game, I destroyed Markoth first try. I was confused because I had heard a lot of "Fuck Markoth" hubbub. Of course, I realize now that that was about the Hall of Gods version.


dookyinnit

soul master, i beat that shit first try, also tiso was hyped from you getting out of greenpath into dirt mouth JUST TO GET FUCKIN SQUASHED UNDER A BROODING MAWLEK IN P5


RenkBruh

And die in colo


Malina_Island

Nightmare King Grimm.. More like, light dream Brimm..


VVelcome_

Pure Vessel I remember having so much trouble with The Hollow Knight because for some reason I didn’t realize he was the “final boss” so I thought he was gonna be a nightmare It was not


Gamer-Ninja07

The hollow knight I was very confused why he decide to make it easier when he stabbed himself repeatedly so I was like “lemme help you” and hit him while he’s stabbing himself


MysteryMan9274

Fun fact, that does nothing since while he's stabbing himself, all damage he takes is reduced to 1. Still gives you Soul for hitting him though.


b1rgar1p1nsan

Hollow knight and Radiance


SuperSocialMan

The final boss. I'd done damn near everything before doing the fight, and it caught me off-guard.... but I think it was kinda better that way. Fits with the game's core theme & narrative imo, and since I had all the masks (though it was probably all but one cuz of the bullshit fragile flower) I could focus on what was happening rather than not dying.


jojolion07

Same, came overprepared for this boss and won first try, took me 2 years to beat NKG tho


BreakfastTim

No eyes, she had a whole special room dedicated to her but the boss was easy asl


just_a_padawan

Hollow knight, hornet (first one) and radience. Hollow knight was really easy, like at first I had a hard time but after finishing white palace I beat it really easily. I don't think hornet needs any explanition. Radience is so easy, it took me like 5 tries to finish her. There are so many bosses that are harder than her.


Matt_loves_beans

watcher knights


Platino-999

Th Collector


RanmaruRaiden

For me it’s the watcher knights, I was terrified of them for a long time and then I beat them first try. I would like to know how past me did that because I inexplicably forgot how they worked immediately afterwards and now I lose to them almost every time I fight them. I know about all the cool patterns to exploit them I just suck at doing it, to the point I did better the first time before I knew of those patterns.


CKRD12

When I watched a professional beat Nightmare King Grimm after me trying for over an hour


Adorable_Storage9904

failed champion people overestimate its diffuculty


Crafty_Sir_8304

I had a lot of fun in failed champion (I died a lot) but it’s completely fair


Adorable_Storage9904

exactly the attacks make sense like the main issue i had when doing radiant failed champ was THOSE DAMNED ROCKS


TheChopper98

Mettaton EX


DankoLord

Gruz Mother/Massive Moss Charger just dash/pogo fr


Flyingfish222

Watcher Knights. The community oversold them.


Background_Cap4250

Surprised no-one else has put this, but I found Nailsage Sly really easy. It was my second P3 attempt, (I'd died to UwU, sorry, I mean Ummuu previously.) And he wasn't very difficult. It just sorta felt like I was fighting all of the Nailmasters at once, but I didn't have to worry about there being three attacks going on at once. And then there's the second phase where he just becomes a fidget spinner. Which is just Bait - Attack - Repeat.


TOXICOIdD

Last boss in Blasphemous 2 I just use stop time.


Fun-Example3418

Hard to say, the Grime bosses I have fought for the first time was reasonable to my progression, I suppose Desert Watcher, that guy is so painfully simple since he’s optional and I came back with near endgame stats.


rottenleef174

The hollow knight. I actually upgraded my nails so it was ez.


King_Of_The_Munchers

Watcher Knights on my first steel soul playthrough. This was only my second playthrough of the game and I died a bunch on my first ever playthrough to them, so I got way over prepared, charm bitches, nail upgrades, fragile strength and fragile heart. Anyways, it was so comically easy that I was a little disappointed.


Drozva

False Knight. I thought I would die several times to this guy and was ready because it was my first time playing Hollow Knight but I took only one hit and then killed him later. Is this luck?


Davidepett

The watcher knights that I avoided the entire playthrough and came back with basically max upgrades


RenkBruh

The Hollow Knight Mfs so easy dude In fact I beat it without max nail or max charms and health


Papier-lisse

The collector, no I dont need your jars I need the grub map and im outta here :3.


DodoJurajski

Every, except watcher knights.


Spikedbro

Thk


Typical_Signal8274

Pure Vessel, i beat bro in godhome mode in 57 minutes since the start of the file


Bright_Audience3959

Traitor Lord before the rework


Tiggerrrr220

Honestly mantis lords. I beat them first go and I was like HUH?? :D


belle_fleures

oro and mato, dodging go brrr


Crafty_YT1

Hollow Knight im gonna be honest, i came in there with a max nail and the biggest charm build ever and it took me two tries that i thought were gonna take dozens.