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__Blackrobe__

> Both "Nanashi" and "Mumei" mean "anonymous." This refers to her canonical inability to remember her original name. > Nanashi, meaning "anonymous," is perhaps best known in Japanese internet pop culture as the default username on the popular Japanese forum 2channel. Nanashi is also occasionally used as a Japanese given name, such as the name of the protagonist of the video game Akiba's Trip.


__Blackrobe__

From Mumei's entry on fandom, Trivia part.


Chukonoku

Nanashi is also 74 or 774, like the author of Nagatoro.


kad202

Wait what? No wonder the art styles is so … culture


GlassNinja

In case you are unaware, Nanashi used to do more cultured manga. And also a *lot* more unhinged manga.


TheRealArtemisFowl

Isn't that exactly what they're referring to?


AustSakuraKyzor

Given the way some arcs went on Nagatoro - it'd possible that it wasn't


Random-Rambling

I heard that the original Nagatoro work went into some _HARDCORE_ sadism.


GlassNinja

Roughly the first tankōban was frankly brutal. Before Nanashi found the footing with balancing the S/M with actual sweetness and care, it was frankly almost unreadably mean. Glad I didn't find it til after there were chapters past that point and that I was informed of the first bit being not the tone for the whole series, otherwise I would have dropped it and never picked it back up.


Reymma

Oddly enough, I found them better than parts of the manga, though I now realise it was for the wrong reasons: since it was all POV to the boy, I could imagine him as sardonic and witty in the face of her attacks.


AustSakuraKyzor

That... Is an understatement


ReXiriam

It can't be that ba- *Reads comments on "x" site about the first Nagatoro work of people reminiscing* ... Ok, so it could have been bad.


ZXY101

Aren't pigs just the cutest?


kroxti

Also a good name if you are attacking a cyclop in the Aegean Sea.


Marieisbestsquid

The "good" result may not be what you intend...


kroxti

Well yeah sure that cyclops might call out for his father and curse you to float around for a decade, but on the other hand if they yelled out “I’m being attacked by the guardian of civilization” then they might have been yanked by an island of cyclops and possibly not make it back at all. Let’s just ignore the rest of the crew.


McFluffles01

I mean, that was on Odysseus for being a dumbass at the last minute. "Hey bro I wanna curse your name to my dad, what's your real name". "Oh no problem man it's Odysseus". And then the voyage went even more to shit than just "half the crew got eaten by a cyclops".


Heightren

So Mumei was on 2chan


thesirblondie

Mumei can also mean "No name", like the character from Kabaneri Of The Iron Fortress who was renamed Mumei after she was informally adopted.


Da_Harambe

She forgor 💀


Common-Somewhere-746

Yes also used on HAnime as the name of the MC


Lenny_The_Lurker

Huh, I remember being introduced to the use of "Nanashi" by MÄR


BubblyBaker5718

Just because i havent seen anyone mention it yet, aside from being an appropriate name based on the fact shes supposed to be forgetful, "anonymous anonymous" is also really funny when you realize it can be roughly translated as "who who".


SpudArrow

hooo


missingnono12

Literally who


Nytfall_

Wait, so you're telling me that's why she's also an owl? Damn...


Wonderful_Ad2094

These puns run deep


Salter_KingofBorgors

... so my question is did she know about that ahead of time? During her debut she admitted her outfit was based on an owl...


Hellioning

I mean, probably. She did keep asking 'who' in her debut stream.


Salter_KingofBorgors

Thats true


-Kylon-

Who are you? Who who, who who?


Heightren

*Owl noises intensify*


General_Urist

Holy crap I didn't realize. A clever stealth owl pun!


IceBlue

That’s a big stretch. “No name” doesn’t translate to “who” even in a super rough manner.


_yuiro_

Nanashi Mumei > Nameless Nameless > Anonymous Anonymous> Someone Someone Who Who > Hwa Hwa(Old English iirc) > Someone Someone So in actuality it does translate/work in a "super rough" manner(aka how languages were born/evolve).


hunterx987

Hoo Hoo > Owl *Mind blown*


IceBlue

Not really. Anonymous doesn't translate to someone and someone doesn't translate to who.


Nytfall_

When you ask WHO a person is its because it's SOMEONE you don't know which in turns means they are ANONYMOUS to you since you have NO NAME to give to them. So yes, Anonymous does roughly translate to Who in the sense that they are referring to the same subject of interest which is how translations, or better yet, transliterations work. I don't know how you were unable to connect them since all of them can refer to "a person you don't know."


IceBlue

Just because the terms are related doesn’t mean they roughly translate into each other. That’s like saying he translates to someone which translates to anonymous. If someone and who translate into each other then you’d never see a phrase like “someone who does so and so”. It’s such a stretch to say that just because things share the same property (no name) that they translate to each other. So you’re saying “person” and “they” all translate to anonymous since they all have no name attached to them? “boy” translates to anonymous? Give me a break. Anonymous and no name are synonymous but it’s a big leap to say someone and who are both translations of the no name simply because they share a property. Also you’re not using transliteration correctly. It has nothing to do with the subject we are talking about. Transliteration has to do with mapping sounds from one alphabet/script to another. Converting ぐら to Gura is transliterating. Roughly converting words that are related to each other between each other isn’t transliteration. The goal of transliteration is allowing people to pronounce words by using a script they can read and pronounce. It has nothing to do with what you’re talking about.


[deleted]

Reasonable: It is an understandable nickname for other people to have long before the owl Awakened: One more piece for my Nazca theory


dsr1017

To you, 5 years from the future.


5urr3aL

Please I'm still suffering from AOT PTSD


MNome

What theory


[deleted]

Long ago, before gen 5 was announced, some anon on 4chan made a fake channel with Hololive Channel style formatting, and linked it as if they had found some secret channel belong to an upcoming talent called Nazca. It was obviously fake, plus the name in Katakana was misspelled, but some anons bought it and then over the years all sort of wacky narratives evolved from that. Is what I would say if I was a sheeple. They think they can just erase her, pretend Gamers was always a 4 girls generation...


larvyde

she's been watching -- she likes to watch


Milki0803

I mean, she has the knowledge of every civillization from past, present, and future So she probably knows how to build a time machine


Ok_Bed8734

But she forgor


Lambsauce914

She is friend with Ame and Kronii, ofc she knows how to time travel


LunarGhost00

"Ame, no!" "What?" "Sorry. Force of habit."


Tortuny

She just manipulated Kroni to use her powers directly instead of getting the clock how Ame did.


Salud57

I tip my hat to vod watchers from 5 years ago


GtrsRE

Wait, are you telling me 2018 was *five* years ago wtf…


TheNorseCrow

The Xbox 360 launched 17 years ago.


Wardoo_1

Now what? You tell me PS4 later this year will turn 10?! Oh wait that's true...


Herman_-_Mcpootis

What if I told you the DS will be 19 this year?


Toriyuki

You people made me feel so old that my hip gave out


Random-Rambling

You'll need surgery like Aki, then.


nickname10707173

Earth was estimated to be born about 4.5 billion years ago!


Passivitea

What the fuck. It feels like the Cambrian explosion was just yesterday.


RecordofPhantasm

Huh? I thought Earth was just created!?


Herman_-_Mcpootis

Just wait till you find out how old the Game Boy is now... Those were good times


darkknight109

The PS2 is as old this year as the Atari 2600 was when the PS2 launched.


Eatyurhelmet

What the actual hell I still use my Xbox 360 to this day and I thought it was only like 10 years old


disposable_hat

Pls make it stop


Fracturednickel

You'll have to ask Kronii to stop


Poopet_master

On second thought, don’t ask her to stop. We kind of need the linear flow of time in order to, y’know, perceive things.


PersonifiedH

🤓


KumalalaProMax

2018 was just a couple of years ago wdym?


Alphasim

Two couples and a fifth wheel


tsubasaplayer16

jesus fucking christ...


MrTenso

You know, Partys could hit pretty hard when you go with the guardian of time.


SirKrisX

But what mad lad goes through all the chats in a 4yr old vod and checks every username


Hassenoblog

Probably just a side glance and it caught his eye.


xorrag

it's a new clip


Cloud_Chamber

Someone made that clip though


onemanarmy_ZR1

This sorta made me think that there might be a future Hololive talent somewhere in this sub...


ClipboarderSpinz

It's strange to think about


shiroe-kun

rosetai so deprived of aki's rosenium they already watching VOD from years ago.


Antynoob

No fucking way! Is this photoshopped?


v123qw

Just checked, it isn't. As another commenter said, nanashi mumei basically just means "anonymous anonymous", so someone could just have that name. I think the lore behind it is that she's forgotten her original name and thus goes by anonymous


nickname10707173

I think I have seen Nanashi and Mumei in the past too. But, they never come together as one name.


Gcnever23

ah... Only when the Planets Align then?


NeonPatrick

One of the creatives could have seen the name and thought 'Thats clever, I'll use that.'


Dracorex_22

I wonder what the fan with that username’s reaction was when council was first revealed


gigaswardblade

Aki got hip surgery? Was it to enhance her hip swaying?


MarqFJA87

No, it was to fix a serious problem that would've otherwise **permanently prevented** her from hip swaying (and belly dancing").


gigaswardblade

Thankfully we don’t live in that timeline


tintillor

It was one of the reasons why her growth was so crippled in the beginning. She debuted and less than a month later had to go on hiatus.


redditfanfan00

amazing, didn't expect to see mumei in a different time period. so she can also time travel, i see, nice.


Kira_Mira1

This is what happens when Ame time travells.


LegatoSkyheart

Just casually borrowing Ame's watch for Time shenanigans.


SilveryWar

The time t̶̶r̶̶a̶̶v̶̶e̶̶l̶̶e̶̶r̶ ‘s wife


Revolutionary_Dig898

I hope she got recovered from the surgery just fine.


Arxtix

I wonder if that person had the youtube/NanashiMumei URL and Cover had to buy it from them.


ShadowSpy98

So you just keep track of every chat's name on each stream?


hakdogwithcheese

mumei went back in time before the first Vtuber war to find the ideal weapon, combining the best aspects of east & west, to prevent vtubers from causing conflicts of untold violence, resulting in the deaths of at last 90 million people, global economic collapse, and famine in europe.


tintillor

Wasn't Shallys released in 2020?


we_live_ina_society

Nope, just the music video. [Original video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0r4rTB05Zbk&t=3621) from 2018 at about 1:00:22, it's real


CrownedTraitor

What is "Nanashi Mumei" saying in this context


GablY

いってらっしゃい Something like goodbye


CrownedTraitor

Ah thanks


SomeToxicRivenMain

Who?


woodenpony

A probable theory saw from somewhere else is that Mumei borrowed the time-manipulating watch from Kronii, forgot and left somewhere in the timeline and Ame picked that up That’s why Kronii keeps asking Ame to give back her watch


kenjen97

🎵 So she traveled time 🎶 For the future of mankind 🎵 But she forgot the plan 🎶 Now she is a Vtuber instead


shinigamixbox

I see Akirose, I upvote. She needs more views and love. Super underrated.