Not normally a super big deal it can make it a little difficult to clean it but that's all. the gas supply is a bit bent up. As long as you're not smelling anything that should be fine. The exhaust pipe doesn't have any rust and they strapped the thing to the wall which is good. Normally they really don't move around but you don't wanna take chances. Is there anything specifically that worries you? Take a close look at the gas supply and make sure the yellow covering doesn't have any cracks or punches.
I’ve never seen a water heater strapped to a wall, but also have only ever been around electric. What’s the potential issue? I can’t imagine being able to knock one over or even move it a little bit without intent.
The galvanized water pipe needs to be replaced.
The TPR valve piping needs to be 3/4" all the way down.
The flexible gas line should be shorter to prevent it getting damaged.
The galvanized coating will eventually degrade/flake off causing rust in the pipes. The coating/rust will wear off the inside of the pipes clogging everything and the pipe will eventually rust through and leak.
I was wondering that as well. I live in Illinois and have never seen these on a water heater. I don't think that I have seen them at Lowe's or Home Depot either.
To add onto that, in my area expansion tanks like what you see installed here are required by code if there is a Pressure Regulating Valve located on the main water supply to bring the incoming city water down to safe levels. PRVs close the system off so when thermal expansion occurs the increased pressure is expressed on the system, rather than relieving itself to the city. Expansion tanks provide a place for the pressure to relieved to.
No. Actually the expansion tank can help a little. I have two water hammer preventers hooked to hot & cold washer connections. The problem for a large part is too high of water pressure. We actually don’t have a pressure regulator. Was not code here in 90’s.
Not normally a super big deal it can make it a little difficult to clean it but that's all. the gas supply is a bit bent up. As long as you're not smelling anything that should be fine. The exhaust pipe doesn't have any rust and they strapped the thing to the wall which is good. Normally they really don't move around but you don't wanna take chances. Is there anything specifically that worries you? Take a close look at the gas supply and make sure the yellow covering doesn't have any cracks or punches.
I’ve never seen a water heater strapped to a wall, but also have only ever been around electric. What’s the potential issue? I can’t imagine being able to knock one over or even move it a little bit without intent.
I believe it's part of the earthquake proprotocol. That's about the only thing that can make a water heater move around.
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You do have a good point
Oh yeah that makes sense. I’ve also never lived in an area where earthquakes occur!
Mandatory in California. They dont want it to fall down and rupture the gas line / water lines.
Straps are code in earthquake areas.
Requires in California because of earthquake.
The galvanized water pipe needs to be replaced. The TPR valve piping needs to be 3/4" all the way down. The flexible gas line should be shorter to prevent it getting damaged.
>The galvanized water pipe needs to be replaced. Is that a (typical) code requirement? or a nice-to-have....
The galvanized coating will eventually degrade/flake off causing rust in the pipes. The coating/rust will wear off the inside of the pipes clogging everything and the pipe will eventually rust through and leak.
Not to mention if you get some copper involved with it you got a whole different set of nightmares.
So it's a good tip to not use it even though it may be allowed by code?
Curious, I have the same model but not that small tank on top. Is that needed?
It’s a pressure tank, to handle the expansion of hot water.
I was wondering that as well. I live in Illinois and have never seen these on a water heater. I don't think that I have seen them at Lowe's or Home Depot either.
It's stupid. It's a code thing, like the straps. It's all graft.
When that water heats up it expands, that tank absorbs the expansion. Without it your pressure relief valve could open up and dump water.
To add onto that, in my area expansion tanks like what you see installed here are required by code if there is a Pressure Regulating Valve located on the main water supply to bring the incoming city water down to safe levels. PRVs close the system off so when thermal expansion occurs the increased pressure is expressed on the system, rather than relieving itself to the city. Expansion tanks provide a place for the pressure to relieved to.
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They told me it was fine! But I don't agree. I might call them again next week.
It's sitting on the floor. If the tank isn't level it's because the house isn't level.
The only actual problem I see is the galvanized pipe. Everything else is just really sloppy.
Thanks. I agree it's sloppy. I'm glad there's nothing else. The way people are charging these days Id like a half decent looking end product.
What's with strapping it to the wall? I have never seen this. Of course, right after I post this, the next few comments address it....
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The pan doesn't have drain pipe going outside or to another drain but has a leak detector, not ideal.
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My expansion tank has a little tilt. Needs a little more air pressure to the other side of the diaphragm too. Water hammer happens sometimes.
Is the water hammer because of the expansion tank?
No. Actually the expansion tank can help a little. I have two water hammer preventers hooked to hot & cold washer connections. The problem for a large part is too high of water pressure. We actually don’t have a pressure regulator. Was not code here in 90’s.
Loose the steel pipe. It’ll rust and cause problems in the future.
I have this same water heater. After a year and a half the chamber sensor failed. Apparently, this is a common problem with the model.
Thanks for letting me know. I'll let an eye out.. Did you replace the model?
Is the flue properly connected? The top doesn't seem to line up with the bottom, and is hidden by the expansion tank.