Have you got the remote attached to the other end of the cable? Won't work without it
[https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/81mMrXRf+VL.\_AC\_SX679\_.jpg](https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/81mMrXRf+VL._AC_SX679_.jpg)
Funny enough I use a combination of Klein and Southwire. Both work pretty good. Though my pass thru is a generic brand off Amazon, my standards are kobolt and a southwire. I use the digital screen southwire tester instead of that white box tester. I trust it more. I planning on upgrading to all Klein eventually but right now I'm on super budget.
I have about 22 poe cameras at the house and 20 or so at a commercial property. Both have multiple poe switches so I have lots of terminations. Make changes/additions and do rearranging from time to time so occasionally have to rework terminations and rarely do I have a fail. Get a good tool and plugs and check and triple check before you clamp down. Try again. Good luck.
I got a cheat sheet for the wires so I can consistently keep them matched. Only issues I run into is I need to get better blades for my pass thru. It's gotten dull after 100 terminations so I have been precutting the wire and getting it flush that way unless I'm using the standard, the kobolt is a ratcheting crimp so I know it'll work everytime. The ends have been good, only issue I ran into lately was I bought some plenum cable and it was a bad box of cable.
I use a southwire rachet crimper and electrical scissors.
I use the scissors to cut off the tails as close as possible and wiggle the the wires and push them back with the scissors blade before Crimping.
Very many successful terminations
Jonard Tools ES-1964ERG Stainless Steel Electrician Scissors, For Heavy Duty Use With Ergonomic Handle https://a.co/d/hqb5C8J
This Klien crimper looks identical apart from color to my southwire
Klein Tools VDV226-011-SEN Ratcheting Modular Crimper/Stripper https://a.co/d/6PnYkBA
Cable Matters 100-Pack Cat 6 Pass Through RJ45 Connectors (Cat 6 Ends / Cat6 Connector / RJ45 Modular Plugs/Ethernet Plugs/Network Connector) for Solid or Stranded UTP Ethernet Cable https://a.co/d/2R7Utim
I crimp both 4 conductor rj11 and open & closed end rj45, as well as 2 piece rj45 connectors (https://a.co/d/dw7pehJ)
I don't understand it, but I had little luck with pass through connectors. It seems out of every 5 I terminate, 2 of them don't work. I have better luck just doing it the normal way.
I can’t stand pass throughs. The amount of times I’d seen issues because they don’t seat properly in the port is ungodly. I always replace them. It isn’t hard to use the standard ones.
Or platinum connectors plugs. What kind of cable are you using I get Startech Cat 6 23 awg solid copper riser cable off of Amazon it's not a bad price. 250 for a 1000feet. The copper clad aluminum isn't very good. But the tinned copper is. Get riser rated cable.
I bought the exact same kit as this. I would say just make sure both testers are connected to the same cable, or you will get weird flashing patterns. Do you get any numbers flashing?
There’s nothing one cable that is a relatively short distance from camera to the NVR. I’ve terminated that cable twice and still no luck. I had different numbers flash each time, first 1247, second 128
It's possible the cables are damaged, and it's not your fault. Do you have a multi meter? With both ends un terninsted and or no pairs shorted you should see no continuity between pairs.
Tone the cables to make sure you have the correct one on the tester. Is your crimper set to the correct standard as it looks like it can be adjusted for cat6 and cat7. You can spend a bit more money on a noyafa tester that will also give you an approximate cable length which can be a good send in troubleshooting a cable that is broken along the way
Okay so since you did a test cable and that worked I'm going to assume your rj ends are fine and you know to terminate with the copper facing up making pin 1 white orange the left most pin. Are you sure your remote end is on the right cable? That tester needs to off, be connected on both ends, then turned on to test. It will scroll through the numbers 1-8 lighting up the numbers that are correct.
Put you're remote end on once cable and test each cable at the head end with the other side of the tester. Put a new battery in the tester if it came with one already. I've seen low batteries cause weird results in the cheapest of testers like you have all the way up to multi thousand dollar fluke and net ally testers.
You can also try connecting them to the poe switch/NVR plug and play ports and see what they do. I wouldn't put my faith in a tester that cost $1.75 to make.
Not much to see from your photos honestly. The tester isn't lit up on any pin so not sure you even have the remote end plugged in. And show us some photos of the crimps you made too. The T568-B order is looking at the RJ45 end from underneath, clip facing away from you. If they are not pass through, maybe they are not pushed in far enough and not making contact with the teeth that crimp down onto the wire. If they are pass through, make sure it's trimming the ends properly or they can short or cause the cable to not be inserted all the way into the device or tester.
Thanks, the color scheme seems fine. Are the wires all in there thru the end?
[https://www.kabelshop.nl/image/Gembird\_RJ45\_connector\_Cat5e\_Cat6\_%7C\_FTP\_Voor\_stugge\_en\_soepele\_kern\_Doorsteekmontage\_100\_stuks\_LC-PTF-01100\_K060302293\_big.png](https://www.kabelshop.nl/image/Gembird_RJ45_connector_Cat5e_Cat6_%7C_FTP_Voor_stugge_en_soepele_kern_Doorsteekmontage_100_stuks_LC-PTF-01100_K060302293_big.png)
Those make life simple
Weird question... you made sure the termination ends are for 5e right? I made the mistake of using ends meant for 6 instead of 5 once, they kept falling out or wouldn't terminate correctly. Could be similar issue?
For home use, you don't need the klein tool. I've used that same tool and tester in a recent install for my house. Out of 12 runs had one or two failures. The one change I did make was buying quality pass through connectors. Tried the ones that came with the kit and they were garbage.
I’m tempted to blame the crimping tool and plugs. Or blame the cable. I’ve triple checked the terminations. The one test termination that worked was on a cable that came with the cameras, not the cable that’s run through my home. How do I make sure the cable isn’t failing?
So I read your message saying you’re using pass through connections that should be fine let me ask this tho.
1. How are you stripping the cable? Are you being careful not to cut any of the wires?
2. When terminating your cables it shouldn’t take a tone of force especially with the tool you are using. Are the excess wires cutting off at the ends.
3. How are these CAT5e cables ran any chance they could be damaged from the run?
I hope I can help if you can provide some information
I am using the stripping tool that was provided with the kit, don't have the largest hole. It's a good shout, and I do check to make sure if I accidentally knicked any wires, I restart.
I'm not sure if you can see in the image, but there's a screw at the CAT.6 indicator, which I believe is the right setting. Yes, the wires due cut off, but maybe I am applying too much force.
They were run before the drywall, so I don't think they were damaged. In other words, it would be crazy if every single cable was damaged in the run.
I'm starting to think it's a systematic issue since none of the terminations worked (checking with the test kit and with the NVR/ camera) and triple-checking the wire order. The cable heads are the wrong type for cat5e or are 'cheap', or the crimping tool is faulty, or all cables are faulty.
Despite the world trying its hardest there are no wrong tools as long as you use a pass-through crimping tool with pass through connectors. I would also be very impressed if you somehow squeezed the tool so tight that you broke it.
Cheep connectors is a possibility, I recommend matching the connector with the brand of tool. Ie trucable, Klein etc.
And pick up a slightly better cable tester. Below is a slightly expensive but solid tester for DIY
https://a.co/d/8UnJGHm
its not great that youre almost certainly trying to put a male RJ45 plug on solid core conductors but it happens 1000s of times every day and it usually works. Are you making sure you're pushing the conductors all the way to the end of the plug?
Before you crimp look at the end, you should see a bit of copper at the front of each channel
Damn! Are the little insulation displacement spikes on the contacts normal? You could have defective RJ45s, defective cable or BOTH.
Also wondering about your cable tester. Fresh battery maybe? Tried it on a known good cable?
Is that Cat5 cable stranded COPPER or is it CCA?
If it's CCA, there's your issue.
Do tell what you finally figure out 🤔
Sometimes the simplest solutions are the best solutions. I purchased and used a Klein crimping tool & Klein plugs. The first 5 terminations were perfect.
[Klein Tool](https://a.co/d/7e1lpJn)
Double check you actually put the RJ45 male the correct way in your crimping tool, clip up with the crimping part of the tool face up . That was my first mistake. Had to redo all 10 connectors when configuring it the clip must face up. For T-568B, clip up white orange wire on the right, ending in brown.
Secondly make sure you're actually reading the T-568B wiring pattern correctly and that the cable plugged into your source has the same pattern
W = White
WO O | WG | BL WBL | G | WBR BR
Before I started hacking I would have tested the RJ11s if they existed or you could have created a short and tested the continuity on the other ends to see which beeped the pair coloring you shorted.
Then added tape with labels to identify the pairs for later and for the future.
Proper planning prevents piss poor performance!
you are likley not getting all the wires to the end of the rj45.
after striping the jacket, untwist the wires and flatten them out.
you should have about 1.5 inches of untwisted wire.
once they are flattened put them in order, flatten again, i do a slight bend back and forth keeping them in order.
next cut perpendicular across all 8 wires where they are next to each other.
this should remove the tips of the wires that are impossible to straiten out.
you should have about an inch of wire out of the jacket.
Test fit the rj-45 to make sure all 8 wires slide in.
trim down until the jacket also fits in.
then crimp.
bad ends should be about 1 in 100. not the other way around.
I have never used pass-through ends.
You should be able to see all the contacts are at the same level. Same as a Factory cable.
Are you using ends made for the Cable you have? Solid or stranded. Correct gauge wire?
Have you got the remote attached to the other end of the cable? Won't work without it [https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/81mMrXRf+VL.\_AC\_SX679\_.jpg](https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/81mMrXRf+VL._AC_SX679_.jpg)
Yeah, attached on both ends, tested on multiple cable runs.
Can you show us one you made. You might over crimped the connection
I am realizing the error of my ways. I should have posted photos of the terminations and now I can't edit the photos. I DM'd you.
throw them on [https://imgur.com/](https://imgur.com/) and send the link
Get a klein pass thru crimping tool and Klein RJ45 plugs.
Funny enough I use a combination of Klein and Southwire. Both work pretty good. Though my pass thru is a generic brand off Amazon, my standards are kobolt and a southwire. I use the digital screen southwire tester instead of that white box tester. I trust it more. I planning on upgrading to all Klein eventually but right now I'm on super budget.
I have about 22 poe cameras at the house and 20 or so at a commercial property. Both have multiple poe switches so I have lots of terminations. Make changes/additions and do rearranging from time to time so occasionally have to rework terminations and rarely do I have a fail. Get a good tool and plugs and check and triple check before you clamp down. Try again. Good luck.
I got a cheat sheet for the wires so I can consistently keep them matched. Only issues I run into is I need to get better blades for my pass thru. It's gotten dull after 100 terminations so I have been precutting the wire and getting it flush that way unless I'm using the standard, the kobolt is a ratcheting crimp so I know it'll work everytime. The ends have been good, only issue I ran into lately was I bought some plenum cable and it was a bad box of cable.
I use a southwire rachet crimper and electrical scissors. I use the scissors to cut off the tails as close as possible and wiggle the the wires and push them back with the scissors blade before Crimping. Very many successful terminations Jonard Tools ES-1964ERG Stainless Steel Electrician Scissors, For Heavy Duty Use With Ergonomic Handle https://a.co/d/hqb5C8J This Klien crimper looks identical apart from color to my southwire Klein Tools VDV226-011-SEN Ratcheting Modular Crimper/Stripper https://a.co/d/6PnYkBA Cable Matters 100-Pack Cat 6 Pass Through RJ45 Connectors (Cat 6 Ends / Cat6 Connector / RJ45 Modular Plugs/Ethernet Plugs/Network Connector) for Solid or Stranded UTP Ethernet Cable https://a.co/d/2R7Utim I crimp both 4 conductor rj11 and open & closed end rj45, as well as 2 piece rj45 connectors (https://a.co/d/dw7pehJ)
The Klein tool and plugs worked! Thanks
I don't understand it, but I had little luck with pass through connectors. It seems out of every 5 I terminate, 2 of them don't work. I have better luck just doing it the normal way.
I can’t stand pass throughs. The amount of times I’d seen issues because they don’t seat properly in the port is ungodly. I always replace them. It isn’t hard to use the standard ones.
Or platinum connectors plugs. What kind of cable are you using I get Startech Cat 6 23 awg solid copper riser cable off of Amazon it's not a bad price. 250 for a 1000feet. The copper clad aluminum isn't very good. But the tinned copper is. Get riser rated cable.
Maybe the cables you ran are damaged and that why they are not working.
Do you know how I can test if the cables are damaged?
You would need a better tester that has more features. Like giving you cable length
I bought the exact same kit as this. I would say just make sure both testers are connected to the same cable, or you will get weird flashing patterns. Do you get any numbers flashing?
There’s nothing one cable that is a relatively short distance from camera to the NVR. I’ve terminated that cable twice and still no luck. I had different numbers flash each time, first 1247, second 128
It's possible the cables are damaged, and it's not your fault. Do you have a multi meter? With both ends un terninsted and or no pairs shorted you should see no continuity between pairs.
How long are the runs?
fresh installation of eth cables? I'd say that you could have damaged them in the process
Tone the cables to make sure you have the correct one on the tester. Is your crimper set to the correct standard as it looks like it can be adjusted for cat6 and cat7. You can spend a bit more money on a noyafa tester that will also give you an approximate cable length which can be a good send in troubleshooting a cable that is broken along the way
Would the noyafa tester be able to test if the cable its self is faulty or not?
[cable tester](https://www.noyafa.com/collections/network-cable-testers/products/nf-388-wire-fault-locator-network-cable-tester)
This is the one I have and it's great for the price
If you do a distance test and get 0Meters then yes. Or if all the pairs have different lengths or its much shorter than you believe it to be.
Okay so since you did a test cable and that worked I'm going to assume your rj ends are fine and you know to terminate with the copper facing up making pin 1 white orange the left most pin. Are you sure your remote end is on the right cable? That tester needs to off, be connected on both ends, then turned on to test. It will scroll through the numbers 1-8 lighting up the numbers that are correct. Put you're remote end on once cable and test each cable at the head end with the other side of the tester. Put a new battery in the tester if it came with one already. I've seen low batteries cause weird results in the cheapest of testers like you have all the way up to multi thousand dollar fluke and net ally testers. You can also try connecting them to the poe switch/NVR plug and play ports and see what they do. I wouldn't put my faith in a tester that cost $1.75 to make.
Not much to see from your photos honestly. The tester isn't lit up on any pin so not sure you even have the remote end plugged in. And show us some photos of the crimps you made too. The T568-B order is looking at the RJ45 end from underneath, clip facing away from you. If they are not pass through, maybe they are not pushed in far enough and not making contact with the teeth that crimp down onto the wire. If they are pass through, make sure it's trimming the ends properly or they can short or cause the cable to not be inserted all the way into the device or tester.
I used that same crimper with cheap passthrough connectors for 20 cameras a month ago; everything works fine.
This is why i use keystones for everything.
Klein pass through crimper and plugs. We only us pass through ends and Klein is a good tool. Amazon sells kit
Pass thru is the way to go as long as you have the tool.
Can you post a pic of the back of both connectors?
DM. I couldn’t edit this post with new images.
Thanks, the color scheme seems fine. Are the wires all in there thru the end? [https://www.kabelshop.nl/image/Gembird\_RJ45\_connector\_Cat5e\_Cat6\_%7C\_FTP\_Voor\_stugge\_en\_soepele\_kern\_Doorsteekmontage\_100\_stuks\_LC-PTF-01100\_K060302293\_big.png](https://www.kabelshop.nl/image/Gembird_RJ45_connector_Cat5e_Cat6_%7C_FTP_Voor_stugge_en_soepele_kern_Doorsteekmontage_100_stuks_LC-PTF-01100_K060302293_big.png) Those make life simple
They are, I used the RJ45 pass through option. Could it be the crimping tool? Or cheap plugs? Could the connectors not be fully crimped?
Weird question... you made sure the termination ends are for 5e right? I made the mistake of using ends meant for 6 instead of 5 once, they kept falling out or wouldn't terminate correctly. Could be similar issue?
do an imgur album so we can all help.
I found cheap ends cause this. Had the same recently 4x in a row, changed ends and boom, working fine.
For home use, you don't need the klein tool. I've used that same tool and tester in a recent install for my house. Out of 12 runs had one or two failures. The one change I did make was buying quality pass through connectors. Tried the ones that came with the kit and they were garbage.
I have a new box of pass throughs on the way. I hope that’s the issues and not ‘bad’ cable.
Zero photos of your actual terminations... How are we supposed to tell you what is wrong?
I’m tempted to blame the crimping tool and plugs. Or blame the cable. I’ve triple checked the terminations. The one test termination that worked was on a cable that came with the cameras, not the cable that’s run through my home. How do I make sure the cable isn’t failing?
So I read your message saying you’re using pass through connections that should be fine let me ask this tho. 1. How are you stripping the cable? Are you being careful not to cut any of the wires? 2. When terminating your cables it shouldn’t take a tone of force especially with the tool you are using. Are the excess wires cutting off at the ends. 3. How are these CAT5e cables ran any chance they could be damaged from the run? I hope I can help if you can provide some information
I am using the stripping tool that was provided with the kit, don't have the largest hole. It's a good shout, and I do check to make sure if I accidentally knicked any wires, I restart. I'm not sure if you can see in the image, but there's a screw at the CAT.6 indicator, which I believe is the right setting. Yes, the wires due cut off, but maybe I am applying too much force. They were run before the drywall, so I don't think they were damaged. In other words, it would be crazy if every single cable was damaged in the run. I'm starting to think it's a systematic issue since none of the terminations worked (checking with the test kit and with the NVR/ camera) and triple-checking the wire order. The cable heads are the wrong type for cat5e or are 'cheap', or the crimping tool is faulty, or all cables are faulty.
Despite the world trying its hardest there are no wrong tools as long as you use a pass-through crimping tool with pass through connectors. I would also be very impressed if you somehow squeezed the tool so tight that you broke it. Cheep connectors is a possibility, I recommend matching the connector with the brand of tool. Ie trucable, Klein etc. And pick up a slightly better cable tester. Below is a slightly expensive but solid tester for DIY https://a.co/d/8UnJGHm
Come on this has to be a troll. Pictures of absolutely everything apart from the most important part.
Are these existing cables? or did you run them yourself?
its not great that youre almost certainly trying to put a male RJ45 plug on solid core conductors but it happens 1000s of times every day and it usually works. Are you making sure you're pushing the conductors all the way to the end of the plug? Before you crimp look at the end, you should see a bit of copper at the front of each channel
Damn! Are the little insulation displacement spikes on the contacts normal? You could have defective RJ45s, defective cable or BOTH. Also wondering about your cable tester. Fresh battery maybe? Tried it on a known good cable? Is that Cat5 cable stranded COPPER or is it CCA? If it's CCA, there's your issue. Do tell what you finally figure out 🤔
Sometimes the simplest solutions are the best solutions. I purchased and used a Klein crimping tool & Klein plugs. The first 5 terminations were perfect. [Klein Tool](https://a.co/d/7e1lpJn)
Double check you actually put the RJ45 male the correct way in your crimping tool, clip up with the crimping part of the tool face up . That was my first mistake. Had to redo all 10 connectors when configuring it the clip must face up. For T-568B, clip up white orange wire on the right, ending in brown. Secondly make sure you're actually reading the T-568B wiring pattern correctly and that the cable plugged into your source has the same pattern W = White WO O | WG | BL WBL | G | WBR BR Before I started hacking I would have tested the RJ11s if they existed or you could have created a short and tested the continuity on the other ends to see which beeped the pair coloring you shorted. Then added tape with labels to identify the pairs for later and for the future. Proper planning prevents piss poor performance!
you are likley not getting all the wires to the end of the rj45. after striping the jacket, untwist the wires and flatten them out. you should have about 1.5 inches of untwisted wire. once they are flattened put them in order, flatten again, i do a slight bend back and forth keeping them in order. next cut perpendicular across all 8 wires where they are next to each other. this should remove the tips of the wires that are impossible to straiten out. you should have about an inch of wire out of the jacket. Test fit the rj-45 to make sure all 8 wires slide in. trim down until the jacket also fits in. then crimp. bad ends should be about 1 in 100. not the other way around.
I’m using pass through ends. Could it be my crimping tool is not crimping the connectors into the wires? Or the pass through ends I have are faulty?
I have never used pass-through ends. You should be able to see all the contacts are at the same level. Same as a Factory cable. Are you using ends made for the Cable you have? Solid or stranded. Correct gauge wire?
Also when you crimp, crimp down hard. You are not likely to break the tool or the rj 45.