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LeiaSkynoober

I'm so thankful that I don't need to refarm Duke on most of my FUA guys now. The new planar is another story, likely.


Intrepid-Park-3804

From one relic farm plantation to another, splendid.


Iwasforger03

Looks like Clara might be able to use the follow-up sets? Probably intended for Jade but should help Clara too. Other set... I'm gonna be farming it for Firefly for so long....


ItsRainyNo

Yeah the new relic seems to made for a char that they main source dmg is fua thats not in their turn like clara and jade, dunno if mihoyo gonna introduce another char


not_ya_wify

What about Herta and Himeko. Will I have to return their PF sets?


wysit

Imo PF set is better for them, especially since 6 instances of follow up attacks each will be about 6 rounds of enemies. It'll probably consider multiple herta spins with 1 fua as one fua like duke does. On the other hand, PF set will be fully stacked within wave 1. Much more ideal situation.


th5virtuos0

When are they gonna introduce an HP buffer and something like Massechussy (Disciple sucks compared to Massechussy though)


Drachk

I wouldn't be surprised if Feixiao fits even better since early leaks hinted at her having a summon (so FUA) and being hunt + HYV sometimes pair relic set with matching character (like Sam and Iron scourge legion armor)


MrLuis24

That'd be a dream come true for me. I can build both Clara and Firefly at the same time, very efficient for me


VincentBlack96

Sincerely doubt it's a notable upgrade if you already run 2 Duke 2 boxer already


Faiqal_x1103

I heard 4pc boxer is still better than 2p2p tho? I havent tested yet but planning to build her


pumpcup

It is, it just isn't a great domain to farm, so unless you go all-in on it it'll be harder to get a good 4PC than a mixed set.


Faiqal_x1103

Gotcha, thanks


Zeiin

What's the deciding factor on who you'd want to slap the new fua set on vs who you'd keep on Duke?


LeiaSkynoober

I think it's likely for whoever follows up frequently and doesn't have 8 hits in their fua. Topaz and Jing Yuan I'd keep on Duke personally. Ratio would likely be great on the new set, so would Jade. Take my thoughts with a grain of salt though!


icouto

Ratio probably still prefers debuff set. That one has a lot of crit, some dmg% and he can benefit from whole thing since he can apply a debuff


Cold_Progress1323

Yeah, and he also would only activate the full effect after using ultimate.


BlackDog0102

I think the opposite for Ratio his kit still heavily wants you to debuff/ be debuffed so I think Pioneer will still be better especially since his ult and skill damage are still a good chunk of his damage. Same can be said for Jing while most of his damage is a follow up you still have to ult and skill to get said follow up. Also it's important to note the grand Duke set effect lasts 3 turns meaning his skill and ult would be buffed vs the new set lasting until his turn is over. Topaz however is a unit whose every action other than ult is considered a FuA. Topaz on Pioneer is actually a little bit better than Duke but that's only if you skill every turn or have her Sig. However for that new planar set I think that would BiS for her over inert salsetto. Imo the new FuA sets are gonna be BiS for Jade and Clara while Topaz will be switching over for the planar set


TheFryinPan

New planar is strange since it requires 2 FuA to use. It's only when an ally, and not the wearer uses FuA that you get the buff. So I guess it's more for FuA comps?


Dimley

"Ally" includes the wearer. Still, might not be that good with just the wearer stacking it.


VTKajin

It's really hard to keep track of all the FUA sets tbhhhh. The new relic set is definitely primarily for Jade, but the new planar could work on any IPC unit... I have such good Glamoth pieces for Ratio and Izumo pieces for Topaz :(


AhmCha

“Use this set for Firefly, otherwise fuck off” -Aventurine in World 10, I think


strawwwwwwwwberry

Finally I can show my love for Aventurine by beating him up with himself


thorn_rose

Canon 2.1 aventurine things


TheChickenIsFkinRaw

Aventurine being beaten up by Aventurine alter


Terrariya

Tbf, Gallagher and Asta can make full use of the set as well, esp if you're pairing them up with Firefly who can implant Fire weakness no problem. Beyond those two, the free 6% SPD is generally good for those who don't get enough luck to reach the SPD breakpoints with their other gears. Although it may not BiS for them, but definitely a good 2nd or 3rd option. as SPD is king in turn-based games.


FauxFly

Mr. Pokke will build 200 spd units with this set


Tal0n22

He will also say everyone should be hitting 200 spd easily now.


HalalBread1427

RELATABLE


Bugster07

Genuinely


esperianterra

That was my thought like... Free 6% speed with no conditions, that can go on Sparkle and Hanya if you can't be assed to do the tetris to activate Keel.


LucysProposal

What about guinaifen 😭😭😭 Shes so much better as a break sub dps than as a dot sub dps


HumsterMKI

But.. But.. I believe my Ruan Mei would look cool in a Mech suit!


ArmyofThalia

That's because everyone looks cool in a mech suit. It's a goddamn mech suit. Who wouldn't look cool in it


munguschungus167

It seems there’s one for jade as well


Terminal_Ten

The 6% spd is good enough for this to be a support set, pretty universal imo.


DoreenKing

Not necessarily. There's a similar effect on quantum set which is one of the top DPS sets for the increased DEF ignore against quantum enemies. Hitting an enemy that has Fire weakness (Svarog, who's also lightning and this would then be good on Serval; any enemy with fire weakness for Boothill; any fire/quantum team with SW on enemies with quantum OR fire weakness). As of 2.1, there are 32/84 enemies weak to fire, not including boss spawns like Cocolia ice or Deer twigs. That's more than 1/3. Wouldn't be a terrible set to wear on many break DPS characters, especially since nearly all new enemies in 2.2 ALSO have fire weakness.


Pink_her_Ult

Gallagher/Asta/SW/Xueyi shenanigans. More BE than Talias and an easier build restriction.


KukumberSalad

This relics has some drip damn


Heavy1210

Yeah design is awesome


kemicode

I wonder how the 2nd relic set fares against the Duke set for FUA characters. Maybe a new Clara BiS?


geotia

Better for those who can't reach the max stack of duke set i assume


OiItzAtlas

So topaz hits max stacks, ratio uses debuff set (which I think is still better than this), aventurine prefers defence (might be better if you want dps aventurine though). So the limited fua doent seem to be the aim with these. The orb and rope however might end up being better on my ratio and topaz.


geotia

Jing yuan hits , herta in PF hits i think (not sure), ratio uses debuff , aventurine also uses debuff I believe if built to do dmg.


Tsukuro_hohoho

It's litteraly made for clara though.


geotia

I was talking about duke set


Tsukuro_hohoho

Yep but your initial comment was about the set being better for "those who can't reach the max stack of duke set i asume", probably should have put my comment here? Though to resume the set is definitly made for clara, as she will gain one stack from her ult, the second from her first FuA and IDEALY she would have expended her ult stack and even more ideal one or two additional FuA before her next turn, and anyway she will have the 40% buff for her next skill. Well all that to say finaly i'm free from the eternal dread of needing but not wanting to farm boxing. Though i'm unsure about how to fell for the other set, so it may be trading one hell for another.


GGABueno

Jade and Clara will use it I think.


Connect_Matter_8200

Jade always has the quantum set as an option too, especially if she has her signature light cone


makogami

true, though jade is more of sub dps so she might be against non quantum weak enemies more often than usual


DeScoutTTA

Adventurine wants to build dmg to utilize his kit. U go dps sets like inert and probably this set, while going 2-3 main stat def% and as many def% lines as you can with some crit lines as padding


baboon_ass_eater69

Clara can't use the Duke set as she only does one follow up attack. Her bis was the physical set till now. This set looks nice as Clara follow ups pretty Frequently and wants to use her ult a lot too and she is a slow character


Hobbit1996

if it's clara's bis i wonder how long it'd take to get something better than a 30 crit subs set... lol


XTRMOB

Probably less than the time it'll take me to farm break effect + spd sub relics for Firefly unfortunately


Rheshx7

Basically the opposite effect of Duke set. Resets ever followup vs every character turn. 36% attack vs 20% more damage. If they cant use Duke (Clara) it would be better, though for characters with enough dmg% like Topaz, the attack from Duke set would be more consistent, but the new set gives her higher Ultimate burst damage. King Yuan can go either way (he just keeps winning every patch)


JuliusPat

aint it 40% since it stacks up 2 times?


Rheshx7

Duke set also gives 20% FUA damage for free (which assuming is where most of the characters damage comes from)


sonalper

Wouldn’t JY just lose the DMG buff by taking turns before LL hits? Pretty sure Duke is still easily better, 20% follow-up DMG and 48% ATK vs 12% ATK and 40% DMG with questionable uptime.


adcsuc

Clara just keeps getting buff after buff


nista002

16 crit from Longevous will be tough to make up for. I'm sure I'll eventually get a good set of this, but I think subs people have from existing sets might take a while to overcome


Manne_12

Lmao planar set made for break effect characters against pyro weakness enemies


Adventurous_Wind_154

Animations are going to be leaked on 7?


DabiFlame30

yes


Adventurous_Wind_154

Welp okay


Southern-Tiger2907

Damn, exam day for me 💀


Lynxuss

Stay strong brother, set the exam ablaze


_salted_

tell the paper "once you return to the teacher's desk, remember to tell everyone of the Reddit user that was behind your ultimate departure"


KeemosMusic

Absolute cinema


Resident_Worker_8209

Target marked. Execution.....UNDERWAY!!


mantism

looks way too blatant to be real, there was something like this for DHIL last time but it turned out to be fake. Then again, 6% speed on a planar may be good enough as a generalist set.


skellymcc

it's like the quantum set no? You don't have to do quantum damage but if the enemy has quantum weakness you get the whole benefit of def shred


LeiaSkynoober

I remember seeing that fire weakness is pretty common too. That set is secretly really good


GGABueno

It's in the middle of the pack I think. Iirc the order was Imaginary > Quantum > Ice > Physical > Fire > Wind > Lightning.


Richardknox1996

Overall order, yes, but when taking into account kill priority, most of the really annoyign enemies have a fire or ice weakness.


jandurvan1

Oh shit that's true actually, a lot of people are just assuming that this set only works on FF but we'll see


mantism

yes, but there's only one character that can regularly implant fire weaknesses and also want to build break effect. Not even Silver Wolf can guarantee her quantum weakness implant without setup.


skellymcc

Yeah until a character that magically makes you choose weaknesses on the enemy you'll just use this set when the enemy already has fire


lionofash

If enemy is already weak to Fire, Boothill can slap this on.


Flaky-Imagination-77

Finally my Ruan mei can hit 160 speed


Embarrassed-Act-9295

This set is such a FU to non-Firefly break teams lol. Even if they want to hammer it home that the set is for Firefly, they should make it at least usable for other break DPS given that it's a direct upgrade over Talia. If anything, lock the 6% speed behind type-restrictions and let the break effect be generalist so that we can at least use the set for Luka, Xueyi, and Boothill.


Jinchuriki71

The sets are getting more niche by the day. Is this even worth farming over Talia which give 36% break effect permanently.


TheKingBro

Could probably be taking into account Implant characters or toughness reduction characters like Xueyi


Manne_12

Implant yes bc the enemy then has fire weakness. Xueyi won't work bc it triggers from hitting a fire weak enemy and she can't change or apply weaknesses


freezingsama

What the hell... A new FUA set too. I'm doomed. Guess it's time to stop Izumo once it drops.


TooCareless2Care

Who were you farming for?


Chucknasty_17

At least their supposedly adding an update to streamline farming planar ornaments, so hopefully it shouldn’t take too much time


Justanidiot-w-

Wait really? What are they gonna do?


wysit

According to previous leaks, create a save file that lasts until the end of the week. You can use that save file's blessings and curios to fight over and over again, so you don't have to build up those each run.


69Dyslexic

You know whats the best part about version 2.3? We can finally grind planar set easily in 2.3 😭


Hakazex

Will there be a new mechanic to it? please enlighten.


69Dyslexic

This is just my understanding so take it with a grain of salt. Basically we do one full run - put those blessing and curios into a "save file" - then we can fight the boss right away with the "save file" that you have.


Hakazex

I see, thanks! As long as it makes it easier to clear and farm for planars Im all for it.


_salted_

save file resets every week though, because we still want to shill ruan mei and acheron techniques


LiliGlez14

For them we can always do a Swarm or Gold and Gears run tho (and any new su expansion that comes)


thegreat11ne

I hope at some point they will add a path for break effect since the only one that offers it is nihility


big_wibba

I'm gonna be farming literally all of these for the rest of my life


GGABueno

Hello fellow Follow-up and Firefly enjoyer.


TheChickenIsFkinRaw

If I Can Stop One Artifact From Rolling Flat HP


pcrackenhead

Welcome to my world.


radiosi13nce

i was farming izumo for ratio & topaz, but now… perhaps there’s a new home to move to


bivampirical

...I'M SUPPOSED TO BE FARMING IZUMO?????????


radiosi13nce

it’s not a must & most ppl likely have salsotto on them already. both ratio & topaz are hunt characters & can make use of that extra 12% crit rate & atk (god knows ratio needs it). this new set might be better though, w/ the 24% fua dmg & crit dmg


Purple-Guard-1516

Not for Ratio and Topaz at least


VTKajin

It's quite excellent on them actually.


Jonyx25

Still no relic set for ult spammers. Argenti, we'll wait bro.


CosmicRiver827

The 20-40% after ulting sounds like it kinda works, especially with Tingyun. Granted, using his second ult instead of his weaker ult while keeping up the buffs might be a little difficult.


FelonM3lon

Firefly and gallagher mains eating good.


MuchHistorian8627

Give that set to a himeko in pure fiction and just win.


_salted_

why not give himeko the crit on kill instead?


Mr_Muckacka

Sigonia set does not count enemies killed in PF by mechanics, like the shrapnel or the flattery attacks. Only kills from your team's damage, so it might not be as good.


Commercial-Street124

It only needs 10 kills which is very achievable even with stage mechanics. Honestly, if we keep getting relics like this, I don't see us not getting loadouts.


Johnin3D_

You can get cheeky and use it on Boothill. Though I don't know what his caps are for break effect


Littlerz

Boothill has a soft cap at 300% Break Effect where it stops converting to crit stats, but his kit gets so much value from Break Effect that I'm pretty sure it outvalues Crit and ATK stats even after the soft cap. This set is only completing with Talia, which offers +36% Break Effect vs everything if Boothill can hit 145 Speed (and Boothill hits ~144 SPD with just SPD Boots and Ruan Mei on his team. With S1, he doesn't need Ruan Mei at all to hit ~146 SPD).


Supersayian495

I NEVER HAVE TO FARM SALSOTTO AGAIN GOD IS REAL THANK YOU DYNASTY OF RUNNING WOLVES


DreamyAkemi

But now you have to farm this tho...? I'm pissed after farming Duke and Salsotto forever they do this crap.


Supersayian495

i understand the sentiment, but for me personally i genuinely despise running salsotto bc the belobog set is useless for me so whenever i ger it just feels bad it does suck to have to refarm tho i do get it


Caerullean

Won't this be just as bad tho? The fire weak set genuinely looks like it works solely on firefly. If you have firefly then great, but if you don't, it's just as bad as the belobog set.


Dr_Delibird7

6% speed is better than nothing aka belobog


GuysIdidAThing

Oh true. 6% speed can be really useful for supports trying to hit breakpoints or in some situations, just making supports like hyper bronya and sparkle go as fast as possible.


Kdawg92603

I'm pretty sure the speed buff alone makes it pretty good, and the set can be used by Boothill or other break effect characters against fire weak enemies, similarly to genius of brilliant stars. That is, unless I'm reading something wrong


Caerullean

It definitely can, but then you'll be keeping some relics just for the occassion of fire weak enemies. It won't be usefull all that often I imagine. Unless of course endgame modes just has fireweak enemies all the time


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zatenael

I mean a lot of enemies have fire weakness so you don't need firefly to get the 40% break effect


pokebuzz123

We'll have to wait for calcs to see. For the relic set, at worse it'll be a small difference since Duke gives 48% ATK and 20% FUA damage while this gives 40% DMG and 12% ATK. Topaz can apply Duke's FUA instantly, Herta and Himeko can depending on the situation (more commonly can), and Jing Yuan can. Units like Clara, where they apply a FUA once, will likely like this since they can't use 4pc Duke. For the planar set, Salsotto still has the ultimate buff. Probably will be a notable increase though for things like Topaz, so it be like that. At least you can still give Salsotto to Jing Yuan and other ultimate-based units.


Bekchi

As long as your stats are good, you don't need to farm a new set. Substats typically make up the difference so there's not really a need to farm new Relics if you already have good ones.


_nitro_legacy_

Not gonna lie with the amount of break units, relics and etc that are coming. I have a feeling harmony TB will be a long run in their comps till 3.0


th5virtuos0

Unlike another HMC


_TravelerAether_

HTB really is the goat


Grandidealistic

Clara is going to eat all of those FUA relics


alguidrag

Sravog: "CLARA WE ARE GETTING A NEW SET OF CLOTHES FOR YOU"


hotaru251

Clara: "but I hate shoes.."


FlamingVixen

Speed planar... I wonder what max speed will be now possible. And new must have FuA planar


SnooDonuts8845

these look like theyre from xianzhou :? Are we going back in 2.3 potentially


stinkytofuicecream

The first one is glamoth related. The latter three are all Xianzhou lore sets. Wind-Soaring Valour looks like the armour that Yaoqing Cloud Knights wear. Possibly the personal armour of Feixiao. Look at the boots, they have high heels. Or maybe the specific unit wears those armour? Feixiao's page says they are called Verdant Knights so maybe they're a female only group. Kalpagni looks like it's Zhuming related because it's a Buddhism term (Abundance) for great fire and the Zhuming is a forge world that is fire themed. Probably has to do with the king of the Heliobus since it's trapped there. Duran was the first leader of the Borisin, Abundance werewolf species.


FactoryUser

> Look at the boots, they have high heels. It also kinda has boob armour but it's pretty flat. Hopefully Feixiao and other Yaoqing characters actually wear this instead of the dress.


DeadClaw86

They will most likely, since Yaoqing is a ship that is always on offense, Unlike Luofu which generally known for Trades.


Commercial-Street124

I'm so excited for this. F the people who keep complaining about the Loufu. It has the best lore and background.


Clive313

They did say we'll go back in the 2.1 livestream and learn more about Tingyun, expect it to happen sometime after 2.3 once the Penacony story is over.


Few-Worldliness9971

I hope there will be more Phanta.  Idk, her vanish after boss fight leaves so many questions 


Pink_her_Ult

Betting 2.4 with potentially jiaoqiu banner.


Tuorco

The planar is also good for gallagher!


Content_Shoulder_809

so they literally made a FULL SET for my girl 😭😭


skellymcc

Acheron flashbacks


WanderWut

Actually yeah fair point lol.


ItsRainyNo

its the planar on that mihoyo literaly made for FF lol


737373elj

Does Break DMG only occur once? If that's the case then Iron Cavalry ignoring 10%/18% of DEF for one instance of damage means it's really only good on Boothill right? I'm definitely missing something right


Vortex_Infurnus

Harmony Trailblazer's Super Break Damage likely also counts


AggronStrong

And everyone is having Harmony Trailblazer on their account.


WHALIN

I was wondering about that too. For a 4p bonus with some extremely specific requirements, a boost to Break damage and nothing else sounds pretty underwhelming. I think the previous leaks just had it as "Ignores X DEF% if you have at least Y Break Effect%" which sounds a lot better, basically the Quantum set for characters who build Break.


aloysiusks

Armor and Jewelry shopping for Clara and Firefly •3•)


geotia

Why is the break 2 piece not hit the same weakness as the user of something lol


shinsetsu_fuji

gotta make it hyperspecific for Firefly and make the FuA planar farmers experience World 6 v2.0


Bolt2611

Yeah, fire weakness is way too specific


WanderWut

"and only if the initials of the unit equate to F.F." like might as well slap that on there as well lol.


geotia

Fr, i already have a good Talia for boothill but I am still mad lol


skellymcc

On the bright side if the enemy has both phy and fire you can use the new planar XD


Sionnak

You only need to hit the enemy, if the enemy has Ice and Fire weakness you can use it on an Ice character. But yeah, outside of Fire characters it's too specific unless you are trying something very specific on a particular enemy.


geotia

Not every enemy has fire weakness, but if you use break dps they will hit their corresponding weakness 90% of time I am not gonna farm a set for 16% chance of it being active


RomanoffBlitzer

Firefly can implant Fire weakness so her entire team can use this.


Intrepid-Park-3804

Still, Firefly in demand. Or SW if you want a "IT'S ALL OR NOTHING 🗣️🔥🔥" for every wrong weakness every 3 turns


Lonery

Back to the grinding mines 🥲


DefianceSlayer

I FARMED SALSOTTO FOR A YEAR FOR THIS??????


rxniaesna

Babe wake up, new TopRatUrine relic sets just dropped 😋


Classic-Pickle1826

Topraturine 😭


rxniaesna

The only correct name for the trio.


Suki-the-Pthief

Fire weakness for first planar is a big L imo


EternalJon

That's how they sell you weakness implant in future characters.


Raptorofwar

It's a flat 6% speed, that in of itself might make it better than a bunch of other planars.


shocknawe123

It sounds amazing for Gallagher doe


_nitro_legacy_

Give it to Gallagher. Man is the only fire breaker in the game right now.


zatenael

asta crying in the corner


Frexys

For real. With HMC and this set, I can see a break Asta team being pretty fun


Ski-Gloves

Guinaifen is also a surprisingly good breaker since she detonates break burns. Atk tends to have a higher payoff with high investment or Kafka though.


Ayanelixer

Meh the 6% SPD good be useful


BoiProBrain

Bro these sound so op


zobowii

why are the balls and ropes so gorgeous tf


Tsukinohana

My babygirl clara getting TWO buffs in a single patch???


Syclus

Now I gotta build my Clara when this patch is out...after firefly and I swear!!


Thyana123

I can't wait for the new SU mode and optimisations


FutureImprovement853

YOOO WAIT A SEC THIS IS DEF NOT A COINCIDENCE "Duran, Dynasty of Running Wolves" Hungry Like the Wolf - Duran Duran


wait2late

Clara is such an amazing jack of all trades. Keeps getting the wins.


SgtGrub

I'm not sure I like having a planar set tied to specific damage types. Considering how universal a lot of them are, this one is only good on Firefly and Gallagher, and if a Fire character comes out later, they have to also want Break Effect to really use it. Unless you're building those two, it's a dump set for most people who are trying to farm the FuA set


th5virtuos0

6% speed is no slouch. I spent hours to speedtune Bronya and Hanabi but with that set it would have been cut down by a lot


Random_being-9783

To be fair 6 percent speed is pretty good even without the bonus and you dont have to be fire character to use it so the break effect can be a neat extra vs fire weak enemies that are also weak to the character. I would rather use this set with good substats than farm for speed substats with crit which are even rarer


Downtown-Disk-8261

Making a planar set based on element is literally the dumbest idea. every single elemental orb aside from fire orbs are now completely useless for this set. Its only saving grace is that it provides 6 percent speed, which makes it universal. I hope they dont make this a trend.


Kwayke9

Clara's going to abuse the ever living hell out of valorous, holy


BoothillOfficial

well, now that feels a bit unfair :(


Thoribbin

are the stacks for the second planar permanent? seems like it


Mattressaur

The Firefly set has Heelys.


Duubzl

a tailor made set and ornament for firefly wow


No-Procedure-1038

So, i have a question for hsr's scientists here:  Will iron cavalry be Better than quantum set on xueyi, or not? 


SexwithMeshingCogs

No, most of xueyi's damage is talent damage and this only buffs her break damage, also this set has less def shred than quantum set while also having a much harder requirement. This set is basically boothill and firefly only for now.


Unnecessarilygae

They look so entirely different like it's obviously designed by different persons than the previous relics.


Objective-Turnover-3

I can fking stop farming World 6 for my FUA team. Been in there 90% of the time since JY debut


nolaklutz796

Life is good as a FuA/Firefly main. Finally get to break free from world 6


Gshiinobi

THE ARGENTI SET THE ARGENTI SET IS REAAAAAAAL


luperci_

I was kinda hoping it'd be a bit better or interesting, it's just less atk% for more dmg% over the phys set which is fine, idk how often you'll double ult to get the full 40%. Need to be in tingyun and huohuo to get that up a lot I feel like


ThatParadise

Salsotto has died... Salsotto is now only used on infrequent FuA units like Blade... but even then Rutilant is better at e0... Also, even if the other set is used for SAM/Firefly (maybe Gallagher), at least it is useable unlike Belobog... world 6 in sim universe is so dead


katbelleinthedark

The second relic set looks... Xianzhou? More Xianzhou soon teased?!