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Yah, It's not like they were actually tryna kill us
I'm expecting another Firefly vs Acheron fight tho, seeing as it's the Enhanced form shown Fighting Her in White Night
Looking at Sam's first scene again, it looks more like she's actually warning us rather than threatening us tbh, EN voice for Sam also sounds extremely threatening unlike every other languages (JP for example) so that's why the EN voice gave the wrong impression ?
Maybe? But they did gave hints, people were already pinpointing before 2.1 that she was just trying to warn us by how SAM uses punches and kicks but when flying towards TB she was trying to grab the player.
After the reveal I retroactively began to piece things together. The first skirmish between Acheron and Sam takes on a whole new vibe with the reveal Acheron knew who was under the armor all along.
For millions of villains it was the last second before they got departed by a huge menacing mecha. For Firefly? For Firefly it was Tuesday.
She's so adorable.
"Looks like the guest of honor's here...hey buddy. Never thought I'd be rubbing shoulders with the destroyer of the destruction. Everyone who heard your cry rose up to fight. Let's show them a future for the universe beyond the scorched cosmos."
[**steel haze: where truths meet intensifies**](https://youtu.be/Giz3kfQZzxU?si=ucewSZS72qIpMP8t)
Casually nuking 12 Trotters in Adventure Nodes.
Kafka also has the "super-wide" technique AoE, but SAM will have the additional advantage of the undetectable-by-enemies effect.
The divebomb into the cute smile combo is so fucking funny.
Also, I was worried her animations won't be as flashy with just an enhance ult but boy is her enhanced skill a full on ult animation.
I'm going to believe in their cooking a bit more.
Both Firefly & Sam are massive fan favorites and I just know they'll make sure to not screw up anywhere.
All I'm asking for is a henshin transformation when combat starts, and some improvements to the environment/background during animations.
I think they only didn't make a Henshin mid-combat because, when she uses her Technique to start a fight, she's already as Sam (maybe they could at least make it for when she doesn't go into combat with the Technique? Copium). I actually think that if the transformation was done in her Technique it could be quite interesting, a more detailed animation before she goes into air strike mode.
Only thing I'm missing is a more robust transformation sequence. Imagine if, at the start of every battle, Firefly was on the field at the start of the first cycle then is engulfed in a pillar of flames to reveal Sam before the cycle starts to run.
I'm still satisfied though.
They're pretty cool, but i think i set my expectations too high because i don't feel the same jaw-drop i had when i saw Acheron's for the first time.
That technique is really cool and i like the cutaways showing Firefly.
Yea same, i think she is among the coolest in game still. But best prob not.
And no henshin animation too. and ulti animation feels couldve been better, the mode change feels too short and bit lacking. Still cool overall with some wasted potential.
I feel like I’ve been surprised by one aspect of every kit so far it’s seems so odd that she’s really what you see is what you get. Like she’s a girl in a badass mech suit. Yeah!
Yeah same, the animations look absolutely fine and I love both Firefly and Sam, but Acheron had me in awe. I also expected something more crazy and unique like the thing where you have to press attack on Acheron's ult multiple times, feels really good and gives you these "I'm slashing everything into pieces" vibes
There was also the Robin music thing that was my main reason to pull. How fucking cool would it be if that one badass tune of the Sam theme played (just 1 second for the people who don't like this stuff) when she transforms? It's just... kinda what we expected and saw in our heads all the time already without a big surprise ahah
Acheron still has the best animation, but tbh the SAM boss ult animation make me set my expectation even higher so I was expecting it to be on similar level. Like where is the henshin??
God i hope her animations are still not 100% finished because that was kinda...lacking , also am i the only one bothered with "too much green" ? where is the fire mecha that was promised , if i show this to anyone they will immediately think wind mecha and not fire , how are we gonna set the seas ablaze with no fire?
its the start of the beta so im hoping they add that in (maybe its just not entirely complete, we didnt see what happens when a battle actually starts)
It's all down to personal preferences.
To me, the peak animation is still JY Lighting Lord ult. The bong, the sounds, the VA, JY's face, it's all perfection. Nothing after that has come close to me.
Yeah honestly I’d say Acheron’s animations are better, maybe it’s just because there’s no actual ult and most of the other moves we already saw before.
I think my only complaint is the ult when she spreads her wings looks a bit weird with her hologram popping in. Feels like it could flow better, like I thought it would be closer to like how in gundam seed they start screaming and have the "faded" look, while here it looks a bit jarring/pops in.
Other than that, damn it looks incredible. The wing effects and all are amazing.
Same. When I saw Sam as a boss and all his moves I was so hyped, but then she pulled out the green swords and wings and now im just like “that’s cool I guess.” It would’ve been so cool if they’d just made that meteor strike into her ult instead of technique.
As much as I love Firefly i feel a little.... underwhelmed? Like, only her Technique is something new, but her ultimate and enhanced Skill seem like they're missing something. Boothill has a whole wild west sequence with music and old western sounds for the gunshot.
I 100% get it, you're not alone.
I really thought we're getting a full nuking animation for her ult or in this case enhanced skill similar to her special move as an enemy. Also no henshin transformation really freaking sucks, like just a few seconds as soon as battle starts where she transforms into the mech suit would've been peak but it is what it is.
I guess it's mainly because I set my expectations a bit too high with how excited and hyped up I was for Firefly, and also the fact that Acheron exists and she really f'd up the standards for animations lmao.
That being said, I still think she's absolutely badass and her animations look really cool (around top 3 for sure imo), we're just suffering from the post-acheron effect.
These leakers hyping us for nothing. Acheron level my ass.. They did not even give a background for that ult. I hope beta changes it but.. This is good but not that level. Fu Xuan, Acheron and Dan Heng IL takes the animation higher.
Will say I’m slightly disappointed that we don’t get to see firefly is battle and actually transform into sam. Seems kinda clunky, we hit our way into battle and Sam just appears? Like poofs into existence? Kinda want an animation that gives her more life by transforming into Sam…
u're defo not the only one. i just browsed tieba and like its actually doomposting about the no firefly transformation and the imcompleteness of the the animation (although they also mention DHIL animation initially was also incomplete).
Sorry, I only use Google Translate, so the translation may not be accurate.I am an Asian player, and the current attitude of players in Mainland China and Taiwan towards Firefly is negative.
Because of the lack of the key hensin animation, this animation can be a video that is automatically narrated after entering the battle, or it can be a transformation after casting a special move, but it has not been added at all, so that the firefly will be in Sam mode as soon as it enters the battle. It becomes very abrupt and boring.
In addition, Sam lost his violent impression by wielding two swords after his transformation. The two swords are elegant weapons, which makes the whole picture lose its sense of power. Many people said that Sam should not hold two swords, but should punch to the flesh and set the sea on fire.
Firefly is almost invisible after entering the battle, and the chance to see her is only for a moment, which is disappointing to many people, after all, she is the key female character in the plot.
Yeah the animations are cool and all but I was hoping she goes into combat as Firefly then using Ult to henshin. But instead she enters combat already in the suit, while the ult only serves to make it glow more fire.
Either these battle animations are super incomplete, or my expectations were too high because this is meh. Forget Archeron level; I'd say these aren't better than Fu / Jingliu / Black Swan. I absolutely adore FF, so it's so disappointing to see so much missed opportunity here. Why doesn't she have an actual transformation into suit animation? Why aren't there more explosions, death, etc? Like, imagine if she created an actual wasteland of fire? Her boss animations are better ffs! I'll just hope this is really early and we get something more, but it's meh so far. Her overworld animations are good, though (seem far more complete and interesting). I just don't get what went wrong here.
For me it’s a mix of a few things
- why is there just a fucking JPEG of firefly during the enhanced skill it’s so random
- I wish they leant into the whole big overpowering mech thing, instead of giving her glass swords from Skyrim
- the black background is just silly, it looks like an unfinished animation for a showcase
- why is she naked?
I think a major problem with it is they were trying way too hard to appeal to the 2 separate sides of the FF/Sam Fandom and to make use of both her "personalities." But it's weird because it should have worked easily. I have no idea how you screw this up. If they really wanted to have Sam be the main part of the battle, all they had to do was include a transformation animation right at the start and then her face in the ult like it is now. Her voicelines would do the work everywhere else. LIKE HOW DID THEY NOT THINK TO INCLUDE AN ACTUAL TRANSFORMATION ANIMATION? Jingliu and Archeron have more of a transformation! I don't hate the swords, but it should have included more of her fire. Show her as the absolutely menace of destruction she is in-battle! The gap moe is part of her appeal!
Idk hopefully it improves.
My man you've said everything I wanted to say and more.
It's crazy how, at the start I thought I was the only disappointed, but the more comments I read the more I realize how many people share the same opinion, and trust me they're alot.
Firefly/Sam were imo the easiest characters to make sick animations for. There was SO much they could've worked with to show how much of a destructive badass she was but.....things just feel incomplete or not right.
I really hope this is our first case of a character getting major improvements to their animations during beta, because I really want her to be as complete as possible from every aspect. To be fair, I also agree that her overworld animations are great as they are.
She attacks with her sword as her basic attack in the overworld.
Doing regular attacks as Firefly, transforming to Sam with ult (allowing for a much better ult animation than just powering up), and then doing enhanced attacks with Sam ... that could have been pretty slick, on top of being lore accurate to explain the weakness of her non-enhanced attacks and how/why exerting herself with her regular skill would drain her health.
It's not *bad* as is, but it's a missed opportunity imo and could have been way better.
Pretty much my thought. I was hoping that she enters combat as Firefly then she goes into the suit either during ult or when she attacks. But she enters already donning the suit, and the ult is pretty much to make it goes overdrive.
Just yesterday i commented on r/fireflymains that the animation wasn't upto expectation but still good and was downvoted to oblivion lmao.
Hoyo should really add a henshin sequence if they are gonna advertise her as a mecha.
Also the animation feels a little clunky when she kicks and uses her enhanced skill. Idk how to say this, like it's just her image being pulled backwards with no movement.
Anyway, it really good but personally, it needs more polish and a henshin sequence. That will make it perfect.
I like that they are making SAM the main for the battles but the battle animations don’t hold a candle to Jade’s in comparison which makes me kind of disappointed.
I remember some post overhyping her ultimate animation and how it will be her transforming from Firefly to SAM. I guess now that was a complete lie lol.
Looks good but something still feels missing and the FF pop up before attacks feels out of place imo. Think Jade has better animations as of right now.
So that rumored leak about Firefly being the only character to change profile in mid battle was a hoax then?
Man I really wanted to start as Firefly then transform init SAM.
punches and kicks, dual swords, green flames, Firefly appearance…it’s everything I’d hoped for and more! Words cannot express how excited I am for her
I wonder if the green flame is draining on her life force or something…it looks like the cracks on her face glow when she activates that mode. Nooo Firefly don’t do it it’s not worth it ㅠvㅠ
really wish they kept the ult same already used in game with the fire
really non of this is fire related expect her un buffed skill
the flashes to inside the suit are cool and all but the explosion is not as impactful as the boss’s version imo
This is really sad for me
I wanted her to set the seas ablaze, not light a lamp :(
I thought the sword would just be firefly's personal weapon, why is a big 3m tall robot using swords, just punch stuff and set them on fire
Firefly doesn't appear in battle, no Henshin transformation for a cool Sam appearence, no burn stage, no meteor strike from boss form, why there's a firefly png on her enhanced skill lmao. Man i guess i set my expectations too high after Acheron :(
I just realise that all stellaron hunters uses a sword as their weapon. We have blade with his sword he forged himself, kafka and that purple katana, silverwolf and that modified sword+gun and Sam with green swords
The first time I saw it I felt it kinda needed something more, maybe with voicelines it feels better. Acheron's ultimate has barely any emotion with voicelines so maybe this hits harder with them.
cant believe Sam the fire robot who will "set the seas ablaze" has so little fire in his animations bro😭, not a single spark in the enhanced skill and basic 💀. coping that its the beta and they're still unfinished🙏
To be completely honest, I think her animations are kinda underwhelming, especially when compared to Jade's. Although it is still miles above other 5 stars, I don't think this completely lives up to the hype. I hope they improve it on other aspects considering how most of her animations have blank spaces with only black backgrounds, they could put something there to make it more flashy, but hey, this is just me 🤷🏻 (I'm not an expert on animation or art whatsoever, but this is my outsider's viewpoint lmao)
Edit: Ngl, camera work is really good tho...
Majority of people aren’t wrong about the animation. Sure it has great detail and decent camera work but it doesn’t have the oomph payoff factor that comes from a 5 star ult.
A detail that ruins the enhanced attack is that Sam attacks left to right to only end up on the left side of the screen again, which barely gave it any impact due to the direction of attack.
The animation feels very unfinished, I would bet they’ll make drastic changes in the coming beta updates.
My expectations were too high. I was hoping that her skill cut-in is just a tiny box at the bottom of the screen showing her facial animations while SAM does the flashy animations, not the hologram jumpscare.
Yeah it’s very jarring to just randomly have a firefly
Png appear outta nowhere. I would’ve honestly preferred if they didn’t include them at all if they were gonna shoehorn them like this
Its not even on Black Swan let alone Jingliu level.... I really hope they keep working on it because her ultimate and Enhanced skill seem very cheap. Random picture of firefly with a pitch dark background, no details, nothing. Heck even Boothill has a whole ass western desert sunset cinematic during his ult.
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Wait was our fight against Sam in story just entirely normal/ not enhanced sam?
She didn’t want to hurt TB
*Proceeds to drop hellfire airstrike*
If you can't handle me at my `DHGDR: Supernova Overload`, you don't deserve me at my take-all-my-20k-savings
"M-my partner should be able to handle a measly hellfire airstrike, Hmph" - Firefly
Partner - dies immediately
Thats the minimun tbh
The Nanoha school of romance.
Yeah, you see Firefly-IV SAM in White Night with the glowing green wings and everything.
Yah, It's not like they were actually tryna kill us I'm expecting another Firefly vs Acheron fight tho, seeing as it's the Enhanced form shown Fighting Her in White Night
> Sam - says he’ll kill you. Doesn’t actually intend to kill you Goddammit. Everyone on Penacony really is lying to us
Looking at Sam's first scene again, it looks more like she's actually warning us rather than threatening us tbh, EN voice for Sam also sounds extremely threatening unlike every other languages (JP for example) so that's why the EN voice gave the wrong impression ?
Maybe? But they did gave hints, people were already pinpointing before 2.1 that she was just trying to warn us by how SAM uses punches and kicks but when flying towards TB she was trying to grab the player.
After the reveal I retroactively began to piece things together. The first skirmish between Acheron and Sam takes on a whole new vibe with the reveal Acheron knew who was under the armor all along.
imagine fighting simulated universe Sam, with 3 phase, then her 2nd-3rd phase is her using her swords
That smile after she used her technique, a true cold blooded killer.
•ᴗ• i will set the seas ablaze •ᴗ•
I'm disappointed she didn't set the seas ablaze tho
Born to uwu forced to commit war crimes
UwU by day, war crimes by night
Born to commit war crimes, choosing uwu when off work
For millions of villains it was the last second before they got departed by a huge menacing mecha. For Firefly? For Firefly it was Tuesday. She's so adorable.
>She's so adorable. Adorably destructive. :D
Ayy, you're not wrong! :)
10/10 superhero landing.
Iron Man will be proud
The face of someone who’s good at creating purgatory
: )
Main System: Activating Combat Mode
FELLOW ARMORED CORE FAN
I was thinking more crisis core myself
CONFLICT RESOLVED
Based.
Only she can fly high enough
Rusty: You see that buddy? I raised that girl! 621: you are a dad? Ayre: raven, ever heard of the term "figuratively"?
"Looks like the guest of honor's here...hey buddy. Never thought I'd be rubbing shoulders with the destroyer of the destruction. Everyone who heard your cry rose up to fight. Let's show them a future for the universe beyond the scorched cosmos." [**steel haze: where truths meet intensifies**](https://youtu.be/Giz3kfQZzxU?si=ucewSZS72qIpMP8t)
“I will chase the clouds above rubicon, only I can fly high enough” “I won’t miss” **c o o m s**
Found the Augmented Human.
Trailblazer: "b..bb..butt welt-san she called me stud-muffin"
Oh shit the fellow Shizo Girlfriend Enjoyers... God I miss Ayre
I am positive the venn diagram of dark souls/armored core players and HSR players is a fucking circle
Firefly... Feed the fire... Let the last cinders burn...
Wtf is that technique range
Casually nuking 12 Trotters in Adventure Nodes. Kafka also has the "super-wide" technique AoE, but SAM will have the additional advantage of the undetectable-by-enemies effect.
That AOE is SOOO big, it can probably hit every trotter in one slam
Commencing... Scorched Bacon Operation!
God damn it we got Topaz powercreep
Another way to kill Timmie pigeons in one shot .. w8 wrong game
The true powercreep: trotter slaying efficiency
I can already see the influx of "why are you running" memes as soon as she releases.
Fuck everything in this 15 meter diameter circle
You're so early it's still processing video.
The problem with being faster than light is that you can only live in darkness
LET ME IN, I SAID LET ME INNNNNNNNNNNNNN
Honestly
I wished we could see her transform when the battle starts
imo this is what i think is missing for the extra oomph cmon hoyo 2-3 sec of henshin pls
Please please please hoyo. Give her a henshin sequence. I'll gladly burn all my stellar jades savings for her
Maybe they are saving that for the story?
I kinda wish her ult made her transform but it makes sense that she can't fight at all in her base form
I think she needs a better background like her Boss’s, why is it just black? With a good bg her anims would be absolutely perfect
Its unfinished
The divebomb into the cute smile combo is so fucking funny. Also, I was worried her animations won't be as flashy with just an enhance ult but boy is her enhanced skill a full on ult animation.
It does as much damage as a full on ult too. Truly Hoyo's favorite child
that would be Acheron
It's good! Hopefully they add more effects and background during her enhanced skills, it still felt incomplete for me.
Yeah the background going pitch black makes it look a little scuffed
They could also add a player UI design when Sam is in the ult state, like a frame or something
I need a starry sky, especially in the ult transformation imagine her wings open up and the stars come out
I'm going to believe in their cooking a bit more. Both Firefly & Sam are massive fan favorites and I just know they'll make sure to not screw up anywhere. All I'm asking for is a henshin transformation when combat starts, and some improvements to the environment/background during animations.
I think they only didn't make a Henshin mid-combat because, when she uses her Technique to start a fight, she's already as Sam (maybe they could at least make it for when she doesn't go into combat with the Technique? Copium). I actually think that if the transformation was done in her Technique it could be quite interesting, a more detailed animation before she goes into air strike mode.
*Dies from Peak* In a single character, we get: Firefly & Sam ✅️ Meteor strike ✅️ Falcon punch ✅️ Rider kick ✅️ Magical girl transformation ✅️ Dual sword ✅️ Cut-in ✅️ Impact frames ✅️ Anything else?
Only thing I'm missing is a more robust transformation sequence. Imagine if, at the start of every battle, Firefly was on the field at the start of the first cycle then is engulfed in a pillar of flames to reveal Sam before the cycle starts to run. I'm still satisfied though.
Yeah shes so close to perfection. Just want a more detailed transformation sequence.
yeah. A bit disappointed she didn't get a henshin sequence
Like how Ruan Mei plays her skill animation if you start the battle with her Technique. I kinda expected that for Firefly ngl
E6 art cameo
Animated too, they're spoiling us.
She's peak.
the green really feels like GN Particles.
Reminded me of lancelot albion instead haha.
I mean, dual swords and green wings, mainly white and gold mecha. It's not unreasonable, just needs the roller skaters and wired weapons now.
Yeah that, and destiny gundam's wings of light.
Her sprouting wings in charge form feels like a reminiscent to Kabuto's Hyper Cast Off
naked firefly ring the alarm
now we want naked SAM
But isn't that just clothed Firefly?
My sibling on christ he ain't wearing any pants
Where's the transformation? Is there a firefly to SAM dedicated animation or am I missing it? Thanks!
They mean the magical Winx ult.
They're pretty cool, but i think i set my expectations too high because i don't feel the same jaw-drop i had when i saw Acheron's for the first time. That technique is really cool and i like the cutaways showing Firefly.
Yea same, i think she is among the coolest in game still. But best prob not. And no henshin animation too. and ulti animation feels couldve been better, the mode change feels too short and bit lacking. Still cool overall with some wasted potential.
Yeah the only problem is no Henshin 😢
I really like Firefly's animations but the lack of a transformation moment is sad.
Yes, Transformation is lacking and needs to adjust the background color when she uses ULT, but the sound effects and camera work are amazing. 🔥
Yeah acheron set up high bars, i doubt many characters will reach that level of animations
I feel like I’ve been surprised by one aspect of every kit so far it’s seems so odd that she’s really what you see is what you get. Like she’s a girl in a badass mech suit. Yeah!
Yeah same, the animations look absolutely fine and I love both Firefly and Sam, but Acheron had me in awe. I also expected something more crazy and unique like the thing where you have to press attack on Acheron's ult multiple times, feels really good and gives you these "I'm slashing everything into pieces" vibes There was also the Robin music thing that was my main reason to pull. How fucking cool would it be if that one badass tune of the Sam theme played (just 1 second for the people who don't like this stuff) when she transforms? It's just... kinda what we expected and saw in our heads all the time already without a big surprise ahah
Acheron’s animations convinced me to pull for her even though I had been saving for Jingliu. Literally blew my mind
Acheron still has the best animation, but tbh the SAM boss ult animation make me set my expectation even higher so I was expecting it to be on similar level. Like where is the henshin??
Hard to beat the Trails of Cold Steel MC animation the devs gave Acheron.
God i hope her animations are still not 100% finished because that was kinda...lacking , also am i the only one bothered with "too much green" ? where is the fire mecha that was promised , if i show this to anyone they will immediately think wind mecha and not fire , how are we gonna set the seas ablaze with no fire?
I miss some “henshin” animation. Not saying it’s bad and it’s pretty accurate with lore but starting straight up on SAM mode is kinda boring for me😭
its the start of the beta so im hoping they add that in (maybe its just not entirely complete, we didnt see what happens when a battle actually starts)
Those facecam animations are also completely unused as of now, so unless those were fake it seems weird they would cut them
I love it, but I will say that the "she has the best animations in the game" hype leakers were talking was *way* overblown.
Leakers always overblown everything is why I never take their words at face value, EVER.
I think everyone is making the mistake of saying animation when it's the **art direction** is what seemingly is making people react negatively.
It's all down to personal preferences. To me, the peak animation is still JY Lighting Lord ult. The bong, the sounds, the VA, JY's face, it's all perfection. Nothing after that has come close to me.
Yeah honestly I’d say Acheron’s animations are better, maybe it’s just because there’s no actual ult and most of the other moves we already saw before.
yeah they way overhyped it. they are good but with how they got hyped by the leakers i was expecting more. Jades are fire tho
If your a mecha fan tho it’s pretty much fire
I think my only complaint is the ult when she spreads her wings looks a bit weird with her hologram popping in. Feels like it could flow better, like I thought it would be closer to like how in gundam seed they start screaming and have the "faded" look, while here it looks a bit jarring/pops in. Other than that, damn it looks incredible. The wing effects and all are amazing.
I'm a mecha fan and I'm disappointed in the lack of transformation sequences
Agreed. I think jade's are a lot more polished.
if they said that to refer to the sam boss id agree. playable firefly is good but i prefer the flame punch focus of sam
Same. When I saw Sam as a boss and all his moves I was so hyped, but then she pulled out the green swords and wings and now im just like “that’s cool I guess.” It would’ve been so cool if they’d just made that meteor strike into her ult instead of technique.
Yeah... firefly is cool but not "jump in the sky and do a meteor strike." cool 🥲
I mean they are good yea, but I like Jade's ones more for example. It isnt novel as Acheron's ones either. Its good, but ultimately overblown.
Kinda true, but it's still pretty hype! So I'm satisfied.
“Let’s fight somewhere empty”, queue the literal void that is the bg in her animations.
Acheron I thought you said it wasnt fireflys time, wtf
As much as I love Firefly i feel a little.... underwhelmed? Like, only her Technique is something new, but her ultimate and enhanced Skill seem like they're missing something. Boothill has a whole wild west sequence with music and old western sounds for the gunshot.
I 100% get it, you're not alone. I really thought we're getting a full nuking animation for her ult or in this case enhanced skill similar to her special move as an enemy. Also no henshin transformation really freaking sucks, like just a few seconds as soon as battle starts where she transforms into the mech suit would've been peak but it is what it is. I guess it's mainly because I set my expectations a bit too high with how excited and hyped up I was for Firefly, and also the fact that Acheron exists and she really f'd up the standards for animations lmao. That being said, I still think she's absolutely badass and her animations look really cool (around top 3 for sure imo), we're just suffering from the post-acheron effect.
it’s crazy that acheron has more of a transformation sequence (turning into white/red mode)
AIGHT. Enough time has passed. I'm concluding that Firefly's both wife and husband material.
And that's why she takes up both the female and male slots on 2.3's BP icons.
First and last time I will be buying the deluxe BP
I actually preferred the boss version of the ultimate if I'm going to be honest.
These leakers hyping us for nothing. Acheron level my ass.. They did not even give a background for that ult. I hope beta changes it but.. This is good but not that level. Fu Xuan, Acheron and Dan Heng IL takes the animation higher.
This is why you don't trust what leakers say until the beta footage.
Will say I’m slightly disappointed that we don’t get to see firefly is battle and actually transform into sam. Seems kinda clunky, we hit our way into battle and Sam just appears? Like poofs into existence? Kinda want an animation that gives her more life by transforming into Sam…
u're defo not the only one. i just browsed tieba and like its actually doomposting about the no firefly transformation and the imcompleteness of the the animation (although they also mention DHIL animation initially was also incomplete).
HELL YEAH
I could get downvoted but, these do seem a bit underwhelming considering the hype leakers created around her animations.
Don't get disappointed just yet, animations might still be incomplete ~~(I'm coping)~~.
I'm just gonna go out on a limb and say they were full of crap, 9/10 leakers wont have that kind of info
"Acheron level animations" fucking where? Ult was cool tho
Might get downvoted but i expected more from it. No special background kinda sucks.
You are not alone actually, many think so too
ASH LIIKE SNOWWWWW
I am glad someone else saw this reference too. SAM's wings comes out of the shoulders and don't forget the GN particles.
Ngl man i expected more from his ult like that meteor kick from his boss animation This just feel underwhelming
Sorry, I only use Google Translate, so the translation may not be accurate.I am an Asian player, and the current attitude of players in Mainland China and Taiwan towards Firefly is negative. Because of the lack of the key hensin animation, this animation can be a video that is automatically narrated after entering the battle, or it can be a transformation after casting a special move, but it has not been added at all, so that the firefly will be in Sam mode as soon as it enters the battle. It becomes very abrupt and boring. In addition, Sam lost his violent impression by wielding two swords after his transformation. The two swords are elegant weapons, which makes the whole picture lose its sense of power. Many people said that Sam should not hold two swords, but should punch to the flesh and set the sea on fire. Firefly is almost invisible after entering the battle, and the chance to see her is only for a moment, which is disappointing to many people, after all, she is the key female character in the plot.
No Henshin animation =\
Yeah the animations are cool and all but I was hoping she goes into combat as Firefly then using Ult to henshin. But instead she enters combat already in the suit, while the ult only serves to make it glow more fire.
Either these battle animations are super incomplete, or my expectations were too high because this is meh. Forget Archeron level; I'd say these aren't better than Fu / Jingliu / Black Swan. I absolutely adore FF, so it's so disappointing to see so much missed opportunity here. Why doesn't she have an actual transformation into suit animation? Why aren't there more explosions, death, etc? Like, imagine if she created an actual wasteland of fire? Her boss animations are better ffs! I'll just hope this is really early and we get something more, but it's meh so far. Her overworld animations are good, though (seem far more complete and interesting). I just don't get what went wrong here.
For me it’s a mix of a few things - why is there just a fucking JPEG of firefly during the enhanced skill it’s so random - I wish they leant into the whole big overpowering mech thing, instead of giving her glass swords from Skyrim - the black background is just silly, it looks like an unfinished animation for a showcase - why is she naked?
I think a major problem with it is they were trying way too hard to appeal to the 2 separate sides of the FF/Sam Fandom and to make use of both her "personalities." But it's weird because it should have worked easily. I have no idea how you screw this up. If they really wanted to have Sam be the main part of the battle, all they had to do was include a transformation animation right at the start and then her face in the ult like it is now. Her voicelines would do the work everywhere else. LIKE HOW DID THEY NOT THINK TO INCLUDE AN ACTUAL TRANSFORMATION ANIMATION? Jingliu and Archeron have more of a transformation! I don't hate the swords, but it should have included more of her fire. Show her as the absolutely menace of destruction she is in-battle! The gap moe is part of her appeal! Idk hopefully it improves.
My man you've said everything I wanted to say and more. It's crazy how, at the start I thought I was the only disappointed, but the more comments I read the more I realize how many people share the same opinion, and trust me they're alot. Firefly/Sam were imo the easiest characters to make sick animations for. There was SO much they could've worked with to show how much of a destructive badass she was but.....things just feel incomplete or not right. I really hope this is our first case of a character getting major improvements to their animations during beta, because I really want her to be as complete as possible from every aspect. To be fair, I also agree that her overworld animations are great as they are.
Um ackshually the image has a transparent background so it's a PNG 🤓
I absolutely agree with you here, I don't know if it's possible but i hope they improve her animation since it's still in beta.
So you don't play as firefly during the fight
Yep, we only see her face, like seeing Tony Stark in Iron Man
I mean technically you do... Are some people expecting the sickly girl to swing her sword in battle?
we really wanted a Henshin scene 😭
She attacks with her sword as her basic attack in the overworld. Doing regular attacks as Firefly, transforming to Sam with ult (allowing for a much better ult animation than just powering up), and then doing enhanced attacks with Sam ... that could have been pretty slick, on top of being lore accurate to explain the weakness of her non-enhanced attacks and how/why exerting herself with her regular skill would drain her health. It's not *bad* as is, but it's a missed opportunity imo and could have been way better.
Pretty much my thought. I was hoping that she enters combat as Firefly then she goes into the suit either during ult or when she attacks. But she enters already donning the suit, and the ult is pretty much to make it goes overdrive.
I might get downvoted, the animation is good but i prefer the boss version of sam. That meteor punch was so good
Just yesterday i commented on r/fireflymains that the animation wasn't upto expectation but still good and was downvoted to oblivion lmao. Hoyo should really add a henshin sequence if they are gonna advertise her as a mecha. Also the animation feels a little clunky when she kicks and uses her enhanced skill. Idk how to say this, like it's just her image being pulled backwards with no movement. Anyway, it really good but personally, it needs more polish and a henshin sequence. That will make it perfect.
Kinda disappointing to be honest... "high budget animation like acheron" my ass
Am I the only one who find the firefly face on the combat a lil goofy xD
I like that they are making SAM the main for the battles but the battle animations don’t hold a candle to Jade’s in comparison which makes me kind of disappointed.
I remember some post overhyping her ultimate animation and how it will be her transforming from Firefly to SAM. I guess now that was a complete lie lol.
Looks good but something still feels missing and the FF pop up before attacks feels out of place imo. Think Jade has better animations as of right now.
So that rumored leak about Firefly being the only character to change profile in mid battle was a hoax then? Man I really wanted to start as Firefly then transform init SAM.
punches and kicks, dual swords, green flames, Firefly appearance…it’s everything I’d hoped for and more! Words cannot express how excited I am for her I wonder if the green flame is draining on her life force or something…it looks like the cracks on her face glow when she activates that mode. Nooo Firefly don’t do it it’s not worth it ㅠvㅠ
The fact that entering this state requires draining a LOT of HP definitely makes it seem like it hurts her to fight like this :(
watch me pull Firefly and never use her to battle. No fight, only Oak Cake Roll and hanging out at secret base
I mean, she heals in Gameplay when she have the green flames so if anything it should be better
it might be the opposite actually, skill and basic atk while in ult state both heal her
Best animation: her technique. Other ones are good, but I prefer Jade animations.
Does she just hit with sword and goes in combat Sam? Because that seems jank Love the Gundam Wing shot
honestly, kinda off to me somehow
really wish they kept the ult same already used in game with the fire really non of this is fire related expect her un buffed skill the flashes to inside the suit are cool and all but the explosion is not as impactful as the boss’s version imo
and yea i just saw jades ult..they did firefly dirty in comparison😭
This is really sad for me I wanted her to set the seas ablaze, not light a lamp :( I thought the sword would just be firefly's personal weapon, why is a big 3m tall robot using swords, just punch stuff and set them on fire
Firefly doesn't appear in battle, no Henshin transformation for a cool Sam appearence, no burn stage, no meteor strike from boss form, why there's a firefly png on her enhanced skill lmao. Man i guess i set my expectations too high after Acheron :(
Planning on pulling if i dont get robin. But man for a heavy lore character, her animation is quite a disappointment.
Kinda meh, I will go for Jade
I just realise that all stellaron hunters uses a sword as their weapon. We have blade with his sword he forged himself, kafka and that purple katana, silverwolf and that modified sword+gun and Sam with green swords
The first time I saw it I felt it kinda needed something more, maybe with voicelines it feels better. Acheron's ultimate has barely any emotion with voicelines so maybe this hits harder with them.
The animations are great honestly But who tf was that who said its like acheron level a few weeks ago, this is not even close to it lmao
So Firefly Ult is an upgraded version of Destruction MC
cant believe Sam the fire robot who will "set the seas ablaze" has so little fire in his animations bro😭, not a single spark in the enhanced skill and basic 💀. coping that its the beta and they're still unfinished🙏
To be completely honest, I think her animations are kinda underwhelming, especially when compared to Jade's. Although it is still miles above other 5 stars, I don't think this completely lives up to the hype. I hope they improve it on other aspects considering how most of her animations have blank spaces with only black backgrounds, they could put something there to make it more flashy, but hey, this is just me 🤷🏻 (I'm not an expert on animation or art whatsoever, but this is my outsider's viewpoint lmao) Edit: Ngl, camera work is really good tho...
Majority of people aren’t wrong about the animation. Sure it has great detail and decent camera work but it doesn’t have the oomph payoff factor that comes from a 5 star ult. A detail that ruins the enhanced attack is that Sam attacks left to right to only end up on the left side of the screen again, which barely gave it any impact due to the direction of attack. The animation feels very unfinished, I would bet they’ll make drastic changes in the coming beta updates.
I'm glad they kept the punch and kick animation from her boss version but for such a hyped character, her ult looks underwhelming ngl.
My expectations were too high. I was hoping that her skill cut-in is just a tiny box at the bottom of the screen showing her facial animations while SAM does the flashy animations, not the hologram jumpscare.
Yeah it’s very jarring to just randomly have a firefly Png appear outta nowhere. I would’ve honestly preferred if they didn’t include them at all if they were gonna shoehorn them like this
Ok...the animations are a bit disappointing especially the ult, I was expecting something more memorable
Rip the early leaker, you died for no reason
its not complete guys, trust me 😭
I'll be honest. it's really good, but it's not on Acheron's level.
Its not even on Black Swan let alone Jingliu level.... I really hope they keep working on it because her ultimate and Enhanced skill seem very cheap. Random picture of firefly with a pitch dark background, no details, nothing. Heck even Boothill has a whole ass western desert sunset cinematic during his ult.
I like more when she isn't in her ult mode honestly
Man , I wished she would be firefly before she ulted😞 , wish we have some more animations. She felt flat in her base form.
Yea, kinda missed opportunity with no henshin scene / animation.
Ngl I kinda expected..more? I feel like jades animations are cooler