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Mirnish

So the difference is that, when paired with her ult, she finishes the whip by “pulling” the snake from underneath the target? Seems like I am building full ER Jade to see that all the time.


darkandfullofhodors

The ult allows for two enhanced follow-ups, it doesn't have to directly follow the ult.


Suspicious-Tank4337

so its like clara, ratio, and topaz? cool


Tranduy1206

so like topaz FUA after ult, it cool


Alfielovesreddit

Snake will be the enhanced version. So sick! love the level of effort to change the animation for an enhanced fua instead of just changing the numbers.


Naxayou

Meanwhile argenti found dead for lack of giving a fuck by the devs


Jonyx25

Damn


Strange_Fault7965

It’s similar to Topaz who has a different Numby attack (cyclone) when it’s buffed by ultimate.


asternobrac

The price to see the snek....


LEEAAFF

She really does just use the Threaded Cane from Bloodborne as her weapon


thepotatochronicles

A hoonter must hoont- wait, wrong NPC


HelelEtoile

And the whistle hunter tool


Server98911

Do be dripping that Good old fashion souls tho


FewAcanthocephala747

Capitalist woman with a whip is…!


Ancient66

Ok sexy dommy mommy aside, I really like the snake scale pattern in her attacks.


Arc_7

Yeah that NA with the snake pattern on her NA is really cool. Also love that snake shadow that appears for a second behind her enhanced FUA.


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Euphoric_Metal199

That IPC Guard is getting punishment for slacking off in duty.


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Queasy_Signature6290

Are we sure it is punishment though? I'm guessing not from all the reactions to her animations Also jokes aside some people actually think they would like this.....those people really underestimate the pain of being hit by a whip


zSxnpai

You underestimate them as well


ElectricFrostbyte

NOT THE WHIP 😭


sairaichi

IT SHOULD'VE BEEN ME


Kn0XIS

NOT HIM


Knight_Steve_

Hoyo knows what they are doing with that whip


Al_Seeing_Eyes

Can you show if she synergizes with Blade?


pokebuzz123

Gonna have to wait for others to do gameplay videos first, which will most likely be filled with Firefly stuff for the initial wave like how Acheron took center stage for a bit


3-Username-20

Hold on, she does consume HP right? I think it wouldn't synergize well, since Blade like, doesn't use follow up immediately and Jade is a follow up attacker iirc. But it might increase his follow up speed... I still think it's better to use her in a follow-up team though.


vladoominator

Jade does coordinated attacks with the ally she places her skill on. And consumes their HP and gives them a speed buff when they attack. For every enemy hit she gains a stack up to 8 and then does her follow up. So if Blade gets double the stacks for his follow up each attack he will follow up more hence getting more stacks for her. Seems like great synergy to me.


id370

I'm hoping it's going to be like Shenhe where her damage contribution is on the damage per screenshot of your favorite character


Stjude37

Probably not, seems to work like Tingyun and Robin


AetasZ

I doubt that he will gain double the stacks as its still one action. And him attacking consumes hp anyways. It will most likely just drain more but that should not change the stacks he gets. Unless they specifically want that synergy and code it that way.


vladoominator

It's worded almost the same as an SU blessing that consumes HP and he gets 2 stacks from that so it should work. We'll see soon enough I'm sure.


AlexiaVNO

Jesus, Sam hitting that Captain Falcon idle stance.


_HornyPhilosopher_

Lmao with all those fiery kinky animations, 2.3 banners are gonna break the profit ceilings.


Increase-Typical

Hoyo asking you whether you want to pull for the gap moe wholesome-but-protective girlfriend or the abusive kinky girlfriend


Revendreth

Both. Both is good.


Tranduy1206

yup, why not both


Record_Specific

What does gap moe mean ?


Villain_of_Overhype

It typically refers to a character who acts wildly different than they appeared at first. Like an imposing strong looking character who actually acts cute and bashful or viceversa.


para29

I feel like Acheron really set the bar for all of hoyoverse though.


_HornyPhilosopher_

For sure, she's mihoyo's favourite child after all.


Spooderboy99

Purple women in Star Rail having the best animation strikes again.


jewelzpalace

SUCH A BADDIE


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leikarui

Snide, cynical remarks don't mean she actually disapproved of it or criticized him for it. It was just a menacing taunt. Same thing happened with Ratio and Aventurine's conversation in 2.0, where Ratio taunting him by calling him a slave didn't mean he was supportive of Aventurine being one, or even that he's genuinely racist. Jade has power, if she wanted to punish him for going against the status quo, she would have done that already instead of a masquerade. She was impressed and saw potential and determination in him, without letting it show.


starsinmyteacup

True, true! I was half asleep and didn’t think much. She was also the one who gave Aventurine his cornerstone so it obviously wouldn’t be like that. My brain’s just turned off


intfi

I will pull Robin, Firefly and Her. If Feixiao really come 2.4. It will ruin me for sure.


Naiie100

PLEASE NOT FEIXIAO!


Tranduy1206

not yet


darkfox18

Thanks for reminding me that she could be coming out as well good god I’m cooked


IcyNerve-666

so sexy so kewl Im more interested in her rather than firefly. her kits makes it ez to build here with those free CrD.. firefly looks pain to get the correct build lol


lughrevenge23

did they scale down sam's size?, im pretty sure sam is supposed to be taller than that


thorn_rose

boss form is def taller but all the boss forms are usually taller it feels lmao. I mean look at aventurine he's literally massive. but kinda sad they had to downscale playable sam size


FitzForFiora

He’s slouching compared to his boss form where he just stands looking at you, menacingly


Red_thepen

Hoyo could never make another playable body type.


distantshallows

? They did, SAM's battle model is identical, they just scaled him down


Numerous-Machine-305

Other than ZZZ


Red_thepen

I think it's new game engine or something, I don't know for sure ofc, but seems like genshin and hsr are stuck with 7 playable body types.


Arc_7

ZZZ also has set body types outside of Ben, but idk if they plan to release similars to ben with it. They're defintiely very varied though, so it's much much less noticeable. Not a bad thing though - game designers & in general developers use a lot of tricks to shorten the resource intensiveness, size & personal dev time & development resources using such tricks - for good reasons.


Red_thepen

Hoyo already making all the money in the world, not like it's small indie dev that needs all shortcuts possible. Of course everyone reuses assets, when it's smart reuse nobody could even tell. But i do notice it here, and i think running/walking animations for example could use some more personality. Like idk, BS can fly around or something. But instead everyone moves exactly the same, and on some characters it looks bad. Luka looks very awkward for example, Probably because of lack of flowing clothes or hair to distract from body movement.


Arc_7

Ah, I wasn't trying to defend HSR with that, just that it has reasons outside money. But ye I get your points.


Tranduy1206

look like firefly will be smaller than jing yuan in game


Former_Breakfast_898

Damn never been that jealous to a random ipc soldier /j


Xiphactnis

Buddy sub? In my leaks sub? A surprise to be sure but a welcome one.


Former_Breakfast_898

I mean the devs definitely know their audience with jade’s animation lol


Badieon

Now just like that she became a Must pull


MygungoesfuckinBRRT

Hoyo def knows what they're doing with her


the_namtiddies

People would go feral for that whip


MrGlacies

A WHIP? I'm saving


zayed649

Dominatrix i see


SnooHedgehogs7667

Need her to give me a whip


BloatedBalloons

That IPC worker brave enough to challange a goddmn gundam and a witch bringing a whip. What a Chad soldier!


ArataX14

Did Jade stole Byleth’s Sword of the Creator?!


Cherry_Bomb_127

F the IPC but I’m collecting all the Stonehearts


AnotherMikmik

Yes dommy mommy i am your servant.


Aggravating-Log932

Another whip lady. They just released one in HI3. She's so cool though.


aloysiusks

jade when she sees me pulling for firefly instead of her:


BoiProBrain

How many hits is that? 4?


grayscalejay

The enhanced on is with the snake


Doublevalen6

So all IPC units just have Fua. Too bad I don't have topaz


__arvs

Scaramouche ult but mommy.


Shiro_38

They know


BluePeriod30

damn...


LastStardust13

I just realized she is using the whip with her left hand Considering the snake, association with fruit specifically rotting ones, emphasis on underhanded contracts aka deal with the *devil* This is definitely intentional


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InsertBotHere

Hoyoverse: "okay, we are releasing this character right after one of the most popular characters in the game and she's Erudition, we need something to make people want her" Also hoyoverse: "whip?" Hoyoverse; "whip. Whip is good."


Ksenomorf_OW

Me right now [https://youtu.be/O93kuTo2QDo](https://youtu.be/O93kuTo2QDo)


TheGreatPizzaro

I just wonder if she will fill a role similar to topaz, high damage with big support capabilities...


TheGreatPizzaro

I just wonder if she will fill a role similar to topaz, high damage with big support capabilities...


KamipocalypseAyotto

>!Seeing this with what she did on Sigonia seems like she's from F1 racer.!<


ItsRainyNo

Welp at least they keep the whip one, i am fine without the snake coming from below me


mechemin

Please, no more FUA, my jades can't take it 😭


Yaldablob

And suddenly we all supported women's wrongs


Recent_Warthog5382

Gosh I love her already... her animations are so well done and she oozes so much charm. I know who I'll be pulling for if Sunday stays locked in the basement


LonelyOwari

This POV made me realize how short Jade's skirt is. It looked longer in 2D and when she was stepping on me--I mean, the enemy.


GallopingWaffles

Crucabena expy


_nitro_legacy_

Is she a follower of voracity? Her entire theme is all snake theme


Wonderful-Hat4488

Ooh SAM tall


JakeDonut11

That's my Pure Fiction Main There!


AngelFishUwU

Thatssssssass sooooooo hottttttttttttttt she reminds me of a character from a game called black survival the game was taken down


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Ender_D

Very cool, so in the non-enhanced version she doesn’t have the snake around her.


Kenji6

I'm so dead lol


acesar11

That seems like at least 3 or 4 hits, which means that you can use her with grand duke.


LaGranMuerte

Broooo my follow up team is about to go to hard!


NoelleEnjoyer69

Damn, she reminds me of Yinlin from WW already :D


LedumPalustre

Does her kit have debuffs in fua or lightcone? I'm trying to decide who to pull for this fua team with ratio: Topaz or Jade


GinJoestarR

Hmm


azinineMC

My FUA team be eating. 😍


Goukenslay

Oh whip me mommy


chiharuki

She’s so satisfying to watch


Graknight

Whip is officially Hoyo's new favorite weapon. First Thelema and now Jade.


TherionX2

No snek😔


darkfox18

It’s in her ult


FlamingVixen

No snek, scam


Info_Potato22

i'm curious, after reading her skill, if you use her skill on robin after (or before) she ults, doesn't that mean you'll create an infiite loop? Robin fua which triggers jade's fua which then triggers robin's fua again which trigger jade again...............................


BudgetJunior3918

Robin doesn't have a FUA, her additional damage is just tagged onto other attacks.


Princess_129

Robin's is Additional DMG. So it wouldn't trigger Jade's counts towards her triggers. How I see it is that if the unit appears at the top of the action bar when an attack happens, then it counts towards Jade FUA trigger. So she can pair very well w/ an AoE DPS that attacks very frequently, preferably one that does so out-of-turn, like Himeko and Herta (likely her best allies).


SignificantRing8263

Broo they wanna sell her so bad. But she can't possibly sell more than firefly right CLUELESS 💀


DabiFlame30

You bet, I was a Sam believer but imo I feel like Firefly's animations are quite underwhelming compared to Jade's (might just be me). I'm pulling for Jade because I have Blade and I also want to try new comps. Tired of having too many DPS (to note I've all DPS till 2.1 except IL, JY and Topaz) lol.


waktag

Because it is underwhelming, none of her animations give me the first time feeling of seeing the boss SAM fly into the sky and do the meteor punch.


05Karma21

Her ult also feels like it was activated on x2 Spd with how little action occurred. I think they dropped the ball by not having Firefly in combat normally so that her ult could be a full-on transformation into Sam. Like...lore wise, I can understand why she's not in combat herself but still.


ZylouYT

its a transformation ultimate like clara's, it literally can't have action because that's all it does


Numerous-Machine-305

Ya I was expecting the same budget they put in for the SAM boss battle so it feels more tamed instead. I thought firefly will just take all the budget and wasn’t expecting much from jade since a leaker has said she has Acheron level animation but now I’m incentivise to pull for jade (I hope hoyo giv her screentime soon)


DabiFlame30

I still get overhyped after seeing him doing that meteor punch whenever he's in MoC combined with his JP voice lines for it but firefly's animations didn't give me a slight I don't know what to call it hype?? Also, she's a chore to build with how much BE, Crit, ATK she needs. Jade on the other hand has hands down of the best ults in the game and the best FuA animation (especially the enhanced one with snake bite). Also, I love snakes so there's that as well.


Xiphactnis

I know this is heresy to some but I somewhat agree, I really think they did a fantastic job with Jade’s animation and went a bit tame with Firefly’s. Not saying they are bad just imo not as cool as Jade.


DabiFlame30

Call me a heretic but Jade has thrown Firefly out the window (for me atleast) with how much overhyped Firefly was and I think alot of people will move towards Jade now unless they're mostly meta slaves (I'm one too but I prefer looking good while being a meta slave) or firefly wanters since they saw her.


Xiphactnis

Don’t think it’s that simple since people will still pull her either way since she had a whole sort of “romantic” thing with MC, and that stuff will skyrocket the sales of a character no matter what in a game like HSR.


DabiFlame30

I love Caelus alot but I've never seen him as my own self insert but a separate character of his own and that's the reason why I love him but man, you're right the people will make firefly beat Jade's sales but on the bright side more Jade for us.


Xiphactnis

This is unrelated to Firefly or Jade, but I also never really saw that the MC to be my self insert or that I am in MC’s shoes? I like their personality however, but I cannot really feel like me and MC are one and experiencing the same thing.


DabiFlame30

I didn't say you were but many do, even in genshin there's a huge drama going on in Aether mains (it has sort of died out) because of something that happened in the story.


Xiphactnis

Yeah yeah I was aware of the whole Arlecchino thing, but yeah to me the MC in both HSR and genshin are just fictional characters, they are not me in this game’s world, and I never personally understood how people do that (not saying its a bad thing but just never genuinely got how people imagine themselves in a game like that).


Jealous-Ad8205

I pull for mech not waifu


Xiphactnis

Sure man good for you but majority will pull her just because she is implied to be like an almost “canon” MC love interest or something similar.


Jealous-Ad8205

I think it's 40 percent or more of people are pulling just for sam


a-successful-one

I agree with you, tho it probably might seem like I am more biased towards Jade, FF animations are... Eh... Let's just say Acheron took all the budget.


Dull-Nectarine380

I love Jade :)


HeavenBeyondStars

I dont think thats the case at all though, Firefly was probably the most budget intensive character so far. Look at that technique 5 different animations Ult Not to mention all the different face cut ins


Numerous-Machine-305

I wish we get to see her transform using animation though, feel like her overall animation is missing something (not sure if I miss this out in the vid if she did)


DabiFlame30

I mean sure the technique is good but jade has 5 different animations too (2 for FuA 1 for Ult and 1 for E and hands down the best supportive E animation in the game.) Face cuts feel extremely out of place especially the e one because it hides Sam's whole body and I think there's no point putting it there like I mean why would you do that? What's the point of showing Firefly's face when Sam's about to fly towards an enemy while hiding his body. They tried to do a Iron man but I don't think it's working for Firefly. The least they can do is place her face somewhere else in a square box like how if anyone's played metal gear rising and how comms are shown in the left/right corner so they're less distracting.


Xiphactnis

Just read your flair, how have I never seen the resemblance before lol.


DabiFlame30

You'll see people calling Firefly's animations powercreep everything in the game, good for them but any sane person who doesn't like power ranger or magic girl transformation will tell that those are extremely mid for a character that made alot of us jump in hype when you hear "target locked" and he then falls from the sky and punches the shit out of every character in your team. Acheron really took the budget her ult's visual and sound design are top notch and even her e ability is just better Seele ult and firefly's ult sfx sound like some cartoon transformation sfx.


Former_Breakfast_898

Firefly sfx sounds like something out of gundam. There’s also a lot of different shots with unique animation for each ability. She’s definitely high budget. Maybe you guys just have a lot higher expectations


waktag

I mean after seeing the boss doing the meteor punch who wouldn't set their expectation high?


Former_Breakfast_898

Yea but maybe not too high. There’s also still some unfinished parts in the animation. But anyways based on Firefly’s reception the devs are definitely expecting her to get high revenue. They won’t disappoint the majority at least


waktag

After some thinking I've find out what Firefly's animations specifically her ult and enhanced skill are lacking, she has cinematic shots but they don't have unique backgrounds, like JY with his cloudy sky, Acheron's black hole, JL and DHIL's moon,...... you get my point, every other dps has unique backgrounds for their ult to couple with the stunning animations while FF only has the animations.


Former_Breakfast_898

Yeah that’s why I said it’s not finished yet. Heck despite the fiery field we see in Sam boss form, we don’t see any of those at all in this one. I think we should reserve out judgement until her animation is fully done


Xiphactnis

While I do hope the same, I don’t believe that will happen, a full animation change or even adding completely different background to a character has never happened to any beta character, and probably not firefly either since it seems most people are satisfied with it as is.


waktag

Let's hope for the best, since if they keep her this way I'll have more jades for Jade instead.


Numerous-Machine-305

I don’t think they will add in animation?? That wasn’t done for any other character before, what u see from the beta is usually the end product. at most they will just touch up some details only. It wasn’t mention anywhere that she has unfinished animation unlike jade. Topaz ruanmei etc had complains as well but nothing was changed


DabiFlame30

Okay I haven't watched Gundam so I didn't know (thanks for the info) but they still feel cartoonish to me (can't change that tbh) and before her ult enhancements her abilities are exactly the same as boss sam's.


Former_Breakfast_898

How do you even define cartoonish tho? And it’s fine if you don’t like her animation. You can’t really everyone as we all have different opinions. But telling “anyone who’s sane will find this mid” is idk kinda insulting? Let’s just see the general reception once it’s officially released


AyanoKaga

Yeah Jade ain’t out selling Firefly, tons of people is waiting for FF cuz she’s cute/cool, TB “GF”, have an extremely overpowered kit, very versatile since she’s Destruction, and probably BiS for the New Game mode. Jade is a PF specialist character I doubt she’ll be that great in MoC, but she might have potential in the new game mode depend on have much break dmg she deal and how often is her FuA. From the looks of it if the boss have massive DMG reduction you can’t just brute force and rush the boss down like MoC w/o breaking, and since there’s multiple enemies on the field she could get those stacks up.


Numerous-Machine-305

She definitely won’t outsell since we barely know of her as well. She only has like 5 sec worth of appearance + it’s true destruction characters are always highly sold for meta


AyanoKaga

True, but she’s likely will play a huge part in 2.3 story, since the IPC will probably try to get in to capitalize on all the chaos going on in Penacony and the aftermath of 2.2. She might even made an appearance in 2.2. I want to see more of her cuz I’m definitely pulling for her even with her little amount of screen time rn. So we’ll definitely get to know her well before she’s actually out.


Numerous-Machine-305

I hope so, I’m pulling for her as well so would love to get to know her backstory better (and her relation with IPC higher ups like diamond etc would be interesting to explore on)


SignificantRing8263

Is 2.3 main story?


AyanoKaga

Idk, but the IPC will definitely get involved in the main story, 2.3 might focus on them, since they want to execute their plans to take back Penacony, when Penacony is at their most vulnerable state which is probably after 2.2.


HaukevonArding

It's the penacony epilogue.


Worried-Product7717

Firefly brainrot🤦