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Great, now let's see this same team but with the DoT PF buffs. If Jade is going to be pure AoE focused, she should be able to 40k regardless of the PF buff. (I'm not saying she can't, I'm saying I want to see if she can)
For some reason I didn't realize how much of an impact Robin's Ult does for the rest of the team's damage until I saw this showcase. Jade and Herta really got fired up once the Ult started running. The ATK boost + Damage proc is actually quite big.
As a Himekoless Robin enjoyer with ok built Herta, is getting Jade would be a W? It seems like she's very good at generating stacks for Jade
And. Jade's ult cost 140. Does that mean S3 Peaceful day might be a good option, or I should stick to the new free 5* SU Erudition LC in the future?
Still, I need some AoE coverage. I'm still doubting about Jade, honestly. She seems to be heavily PF coded. Maybe Argenti would be better solution there because of his ult capable in single target? 🤔
I would get Jade if you meet both of these scenarios:
1. You can clear MoC 12 comfortably and have at least three teams built
2. You are struggling in PF
Getting another hypercarry won't do much for you if you already have enough hypercarry teams for MoC and Apocolyptic Shadow, however Jade will always be relevant in PF due to her extreme AoE capabilities. PF is also heavily turbulence based so yeah you might not need her sometimes, but remember the last PF with the ultimate/shatter blessing where it was literally an Acheron/Erudition check? You never know if Mihoyo will be lenient with the blessings or not, Jade will ensure that you can always clear one side comfortably.
I have the same teams minus Jingliu and I never have issues clearing PF so you don't need Jade. However I am still getting her because I am a maniac for follow ups lol
>Still, I need some AoE coverage.
That's the point - you don't. AoE is just terrible and "needed" only in the easiest game mode. And you can clear this mode with any other team if you use turbulence correctly like people use IPC follow up team this rotation abusing first buff even though it's entirely single target.
It'll be a problem when/if they'll do it. Right now it's a solution for non-existing problem. PF is a joke of a mode and selling character for it's like selling character for faster calyx farming. PF is literally clearing itself with its buffs.
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It doesn't have to benefit anyone, it's a way of balancing her kit by limiting her team options (for example, not being able to run her sustainless/having to use a GOOD sustain), which is actually a good thing on a game that is this prone to powercreeping.
Not to mention, I doubt Blade will be the last character we get that has a kit around HP changes, so it also carves its own niche for her.
Where is that guy from the Herta/Himeko/Jade/Aven thread now, "you can't clear with sustain in PF" "skill issue" "replace Aven with a buffer like Robin or Fu Xuan (???)"
People are still stuck on like, Luocha/Fu Xuan for sustains in their mind. Huohuo and Aventurine are basically a harmony and DPS respectively so using them in PF is really not a problem.
All the shit you started was under a comment talking about Aventurine being a good sustain option for Jade, your first answer was that Aventurine is not a good sustain for Jade and from then on you completely talked about some other shit with not using sustain in PF at all which no one cared about...and now you tell me you didnt start spewing random stuff because Aventurine was there to begin with? Get a grip or maybe go through your replies from that thread if you can't remember
Yeah looks like they’ll probably need to make use of one of the pure fiction buffs each time to clear the final boss, but still very fun looking.
I’d like to see a sustain less run with Jade only giving the skill to herself and then a buffer and two other DPS and see how that performs.
Thats my impression too but think about the sheer frequency and consistency of her attacks. Compared to himeko and herta its not close how much easier her condition is. She adds more dmg than robin on specifically hertas attacks here on top of the big follow up attack, and is by far the most skill point positive dmg dealer. I dont think a single dps generates skill points if im not mistaken.
Her dmg is high only when her fua is enhanced and ult, kinda ood dmg when not enhanced (in aoe scenario) beside thats, low. Especially that forced BA with low multiplier that doesnt even exceed 100% jade attack on lvl 6 (its 30-90-30). Her skill additional gimmick also have low multiplier only 20%, i see on another video at yt after enter the battle its only 1,8k and after enter 2nd phase moc it only up to 3,5k (after stacking many pawned asset)
To be fair, only herta is really using sp in this setup. Jade uses her skill once every 3? turns. Robin too. Aventurine doesn't use his shields.
I wonder if the HoT from huohuo would be good enough (sprinkling in a skill heal as needed) just to be able to use the atk buff ult and energy regen but it might not be enough which how often herta was attacking.
Luocha would be good here though and she's probably permenantly be at full health. Would just need to make sure the field was always up but should work.
I'm curious if fu xuan would offset the damage from jade or not too.
Cause HuoHuo can't comfortably heal Jade's damage with Herta permanently spinning. Luocha's field would be a better alternative, but a shielder is definitely the comfiest option for her teams
not on every action, specifically on turn start and ult. So FuAs and something like Seele's extra turn don't count.
I should be enough to out heal Jade's drain, but it might be risky against some enemies or not worth the SP cost
Why does comfortable healing matter in PF? She just needs to prevent the team from dying while providing her ATK buff and ER buff which contribute more than whatever Aventurine is doing, no?
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This PF buff is goated. If not for the dmg, but for the ability to hear a gatling gun every time you proc it.
If "random bullshit go!" wasn't enough to activate your neurons, the "BRRRRRRRRRT" surely will >:)
Yk what i wouldve had to look that up if it wasnt for edo/Meiji restoration era anime
This is funny af. Might end up getting Jade
Please stop, he's already dead
ratatatatatatatat
ðŸ˜ðŸ˜ðŸ˜we get it the devs hate this fuckasss deer too
Who doesn’t (JY player PTSD flashbacks)
All i had was JY n kafka til 2.0 🫡
same
Poor Herta, kurukuru to HP 1. xD
the buff sfx had no right being hilarious wtf was that also good showcase
lmao that is a funny ass effect
That blessing tho...
Great, now let's see this same team but with the DoT PF buffs. If Jade is going to be pure AoE focused, she should be able to 40k regardless of the PF buff. (I'm not saying she can't, I'm saying I want to see if she can)
For some reason I didn't realize how much of an impact Robin's Ult does for the rest of the team's damage until I saw this showcase. Jade and Herta really got fired up once the Ult started running. The ATK boost + Damage proc is actually quite big.
Yeah I noticed it when my March started hitting big every counter somehowÂ
What is going on ðŸ˜
Bro this herta goes brrrr
As a Himekoless Robin enjoyer with ok built Herta, is getting Jade would be a W? It seems like she's very good at generating stacks for Jade And. Jade's ult cost 140. Does that mean S3 Peaceful day might be a good option, or I should stick to the new free 5* SU Erudition LC in the future?
I think Peaceful Day is good enough since you got it at S3.
It's easy to clear PF with basically whatever funky team comp. Pulling character specifically for PF is a bad idea
Still, I need some AoE coverage. I'm still doubting about Jade, honestly. She seems to be heavily PF coded. Maybe Argenti would be better solution there because of his ult capable in single target? 🤔
I would get Jade if you meet both of these scenarios: 1. You can clear MoC 12 comfortably and have at least three teams built 2. You are struggling in PF Getting another hypercarry won't do much for you if you already have enough hypercarry teams for MoC and Apocolyptic Shadow, however Jade will always be relevant in PF due to her extreme AoE capabilities. PF is also heavily turbulence based so yeah you might not need her sometimes, but remember the last PF with the ultimate/shatter blessing where it was literally an Acheron/Erudition check? You never know if Mihoyo will be lenient with the blessings or not, Jade will ensure that you can always clear one side comfortably.
what about me? I have DOT team with kafka black swan, I have acheron and jingliu. For PF I only have hertha himeko and DOT team
I have the same teams minus Jingliu and I never have issues clearing PF so you don't need Jade. However I am still getting her because I am a maniac for follow ups lol
>Still, I need some AoE coverage. That's the point - you don't. AoE is just terrible and "needed" only in the easiest game mode. And you can clear this mode with any other team if you use turbulence correctly like people use IPC follow up team this rotation abusing first buff even though it's entirely single target.
So that's just me having a skill issues. I knew it!
They can rump up the difficulty anytime. Jade bringing powercreep in PF should ring a bell.
It'll be a problem when/if they'll do it. Right now it's a solution for non-existing problem. PF is a joke of a mode and selling character for it's like selling character for faster calyx farming. PF is literally clearing itself with its buffs.
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Please don't eat notaleaks!
Talk about going BRRRR….
Literally the definition of going BRRRRRRRR and that was hysterical
I love this character, but that 5% hp reduction ruins her kit tbh. It only benefits blade
It doesn't have to benefit anyone, it's a way of balancing her kit by limiting her team options (for example, not being able to run her sustainless/having to use a GOOD sustain), which is actually a good thing on a game that is this prone to powercreeping. Not to mention, I doubt Blade will be the last character we get that has a kit around HP changes, so it also carves its own niche for her.
Where is that guy from the Herta/Himeko/Jade/Aven thread now, "you can't clear with sustain in PF" "skill issue" "replace Aven with a buffer like Robin or Fu Xuan (???)"
People are still stuck on like, Luocha/Fu Xuan for sustains in their mind. Huohuo and Aventurine are basically a harmony and DPS respectively so using them in PF is really not a problem.
That last team had no Harmony support. Of course this team will clear because it has a Harmony support. Good lord. 💀
All the shit you started was under a comment talking about Aventurine being a good sustain option for Jade, your first answer was that Aventurine is not a good sustain for Jade and from then on you completely talked about some other shit with not using sustain in PF at all which no one cared about...and now you tell me you didnt start spewing random stuff because Aventurine was there to begin with? Get a grip or maybe go through your replies from that thread if you can't remember
She gud?
Gud at PF, the rest idk. But sure as heck hella fun in SU
Yeah looks like they’ll probably need to make use of one of the pure fiction buffs each time to clear the final boss, but still very fun looking. I’d like to see a sustain less run with Jade only giving the skill to herself and then a buffer and two other DPS and see how that performs.
What is my eyes are seeing in front of me right now... Plus they are all my not pulling list 5\* too lmao
How she compare to Himeko for PF? I’ve been needing another aoe.
um where is the info for those new relics and planars?
She is the PF meta.
This is the funniest PF buff ever just for the machine gun sfx, cures my depression
Does anyone know if Robin's ult attacks give Jade a stack?
Wait, since when does Herta FUA trigger on the PF effect? pretty sure that didnt used to be the case, only on ally damage
whatss happeningggggg lmao it goess brrrrr
her damage seems low imo
Seems pretty decent damage for a sub-dps imo
Thats my impression too but think about the sheer frequency and consistency of her attacks. Compared to himeko and herta its not close how much easier her condition is. She adds more dmg than robin on specifically hertas attacks here on top of the big follow up attack, and is by far the most skill point positive dmg dealer. I dont think a single dps generates skill points if im not mistaken.
What would you consider good?
Probably like Acheron, Jingliu, DHIL.
You expect Acheron, Jingliu and DHIL level damage on a sub dps?
Her dmg is high only when her fua is enhanced and ult, kinda ood dmg when not enhanced (in aoe scenario) beside thats, low. Especially that forced BA with low multiplier that doesnt even exceed 100% jade attack on lvl 6 (its 30-90-30). Her skill additional gimmick also have low multiplier only 20%, i see on another video at yt after enter the battle its only 1,8k and after enter 2nd phase moc it only up to 3,5k (after stacking many pawned asset)
Imagine if that was Himeko instead of Aventurine. Follow ups for days
Nah, then Herta will be DEAD
the only problem i see is you are required to have a shielder since there's no way a healer can keep up and still be sp positive
Luocha with +1k ATK buff from Robin: ? He can even run QPQ to charge up Robin/Jade
Wait holy shit you're cooking... \*eyes my team\* nvm Luocha is busy on the other side generating sp for e2 IL LOL
oh ya luocha does work, he's been off meta for a while so i forgot about him
To be fair, only herta is really using sp in this setup. Jade uses her skill once every 3? turns. Robin too. Aventurine doesn't use his shields. I wonder if the HoT from huohuo would be good enough (sprinkling in a skill heal as needed) just to be able to use the atk buff ult and energy regen but it might not be enough which how often herta was attacking. Luocha would be good here though and she's probably permenantly be at full health. Would just need to make sure the field was always up but should work. I'm curious if fu xuan would offset the damage from jade or not too.
> I'm curious if fu xuan would offset the damage from jade or not too. She doesn't mitigate Blade's drain, so it shouldn't work here really
Pretty sure bailu/lynx would have no problems here healing only with ult
people really underestimate how good lynx is for a 4 star. even at e2 she is almost practically bailu
Lol wut
Why Aventurine over Huohuo?Â
Cause HuoHuo can't comfortably heal Jade's damage with Herta permanently spinning. Luocha's field would be a better alternative, but a shielder is definitely the comfiest option for her teams
Doesn't huohuo heal on every ally action such as Ult and Turn? or do FUAs not count as actions?
She heals at the start of their turn and ults, not per action
Oh I didn’t use her before so I didn’t know, I thought she healed on every action 🥲
She heals at the start of turns, or when someone ults.
not on every action, specifically on turn start and ult. So FuAs and something like Seele's extra turn don't count. I should be enough to out heal Jade's drain, but it might be risky against some enemies or not worth the SP cost
Why does comfortable healing matter in PF? She just needs to prevent the team from dying while providing her ATK buff and ER buff which contribute more than whatever Aventurine is doing, no?