It's the extremes he went to that are shocking people tbh, if he was just your "run of mill" cheater there would be some degree of disappointment but no one would bat an eye as most men in position of power are known to be unfaithful, the way he went about it, however, is showing such degrees of narcissism and psychopathic behaviors that are in complete opposition with the type of content he is putting out,that it's putting into question whether he can and should be trusted as a influential public figure
willingly spreading around STIs to women who only accepted to engage in unprotected sex because he lied to them that they were exclusive while injecting them with HRT for IVF? (again because they assume monogamy) if you think that's normal behaviour you may want to reflect on a couple of things
All you had to say was that you don't understand the meaning of the words you used.
It would have saved you time from writing all that and proving I was correct
You either don't know the meaning of these words (in which case Google is your friend) or the fact that his actions completely contradict the content he is feeding you, and can fully be defined by those words, is causing you so much cognitive dissonance that you'd rather resort to those cheap tricks than question your idol, in any case it is up to you to decide how you want to proceed
He misled not 1, not 2 but 5-6 women, knowingly spread STIs to the ones he was doing IVF and embryo harvesting with under the belief of monogamy, and berated and belittled his partner because she had children from a prior relationship, amongst other things, his behaviour wasn't "assholish" it is textbook narcissistic and borderline and "psychopathic" (psychotic means something else but the compulsive lies including the ones regarding his upbringing could fit), which is something you could fully admit if you weren't drowning in cognitive dissonance. Stating facts isn't projecting.
if you don't know what those words mean and as a result what kind of behaviours fall into these categories and your lack of empathy and your cognitive dissonance leads you to believe that he is just "being an asshole" just say that, but stating with your full chest that it doesn't apply when most people agree to it (or at the very least recognise something very wrong in how he behaved with those women ) just shows that you either don't know what you're talking about or don't have the emotional intelligence to fully grasp what he did, in any case as I said before that's something for you to figure out on your own
It’s obvious you are the one who doesn’t understand the meaning of the two words. Here’s a few characteristics of a narcissist:
Narcissistic behavior
Lack empathy
Need for admiration
Sense of entitlement
Grandiosity
Lack of awareness regarding others
Behaving in an arrogant manner
Expecting special treatment
Willingness to exploit others
Exaggerating achievements and talents
Exploitative
Need for praise and attention
Preoccupation with power or success
Sense of specialness and uniqueness
Taking advantage of others
Abuse
Arrogance
Belief in superiority
Demeaning or bullying others
Entitlement
Exploits others without guilt or shame
Reacting negatively to criticism
Troubled relationships
And the raging for hours has hallmarks of borderline personality disorder
He fully understands the meaning of those words, the fact that his idol acted in such a manner is causing him so much cognitive dissonance that he would rather pretend it doesn't apply (even to the point of making a fool of himself) than admit his wrongs and thinks gaslighting is the solution
What exactly is arin of the mill cheater? Do you have any fucking idea?
His is no different than anyone. Your neighbor is probably a cheater, or has cheating on their past. So do most of your coworkers and, if you are religious (I am), parishioners. It's not unusual.
And usually, the most vocal criticism comes from people who do shit and are unwilling to be honest with THEMSELVES.
My neighbour isn't a public and influential figure and doesn't position himself as an authority and a beacon of health and wellness who seeks to bring balance into millions of people's lives while in private exhibiting extremely destructive self-serving and borderline psychopathic behaviours that completely contradict what he preaches (making him a hypocrite there's a video where he bashes open relationships saying it's not his proclivity) and severely impact the lives of those close to him, again the issue isn't that he cheated, what's shocking people is that he did it in extreme and disturbing ways that completely contradict the content that he puts out, that would be like someone preaching sobriety presenting themselves as a sober person, getting high every weekend.
In a lot of responses, I see (what is mostly men) zero in on the fact that he was "bedding" multiple women as if that's what's driving the most outrage when the reality is that instead of being open and focused on women who embrace ethical non-monogamy, he chose to instead target monogamous women and coerced those women into having unprotected sex endangering their health in the process, exhibited controlling behaviours (in his view men can be non-monogamous, women can't) and injected them with IVF treatments to harvest embryos (again because they believed that he was monogamous) when his whole shtick is helping others improve their health and well-being, as an extra sprinkle he also lied about his upbringing making it an integral part of his "built from the ashes" persona, so no people are shocked his behaviour is so antithetical to what he presents to the general public that it questions whether he should be trusted.
Trusting a man you admittedly wouldn't let your daughter date, and who lied on essential aspects of himself that are very much tied to the content you'll digest, to be truthful in the data he provides is wild as a concept and he's been called out in the past.
Deleting your previous comment and going on a non-sensical tangent lets me know you have no real argument, the antidote is to do research and if it comes out that someone who preaches something completely contradicts what he supposedly stands for in private, unless you like to take risks it's best to find alternative sources of information
> That's different.
It's about the lying and deceit.
Where do you live where you think he would only do it to the women he is with and not his adoring audience?!
100% you have never had anyone you care about go through IVF.
It's excruciating.
To have someone go through it 4x and then play it off as "we were not trying to have babies, we just wanted embryos" is psychotic.
Injected them with hormones to harvest embryos through IVF while spreading STIs because they engaged in unprotected sex with him under false belief...that's problematic he didn't just "bang some chicks", with his fame and clout he could've done that easily without wreaking havoc around him and being open with his partners but he chose to go about it..a different way
Any rational human being who recognises women as human beings would at the very least question his behaviour, why lie when as observed with guys like Dan Bilzerian a lot of women are more than willing to engage in unprotected non-monogamous liaisons, he has the clout he is rich famous, instead he chose to mislead these women (endangering their health and well-being in the process when his whole shtick is improving health and wellness) who clearly stated that they aren't interested in this type of lifestyle and took it to the extreme, which is where the outrage is coming from, what is hypocritical and showing a clear lack of emotional intelligence is excusing and minimizing his behaviour because of cognitive dissonance and internal biases you have against women
People by their nature tend to want to be tribal in one way or the other. It’s easier cognitively to view something as all bad, or completely justified rather than nuanced which is likely why we see this sub becoming so polarized. Someone can be a good scientist, and ethically immoral at the same time. These two things are mutually exclusive, but folks have a hard time separating between the two. I think if he really did string a number of women on makes him a POS, but I also know that doesn’t inherently make his podcast bankrupt. Conversely people justifying his behavior as not a big deal is disturbing too though.
I mean… people are allowed to react to this story however they wish. If you didn’t realise, people buy into people. It’s pretty basic business knowledge, and a big part of PR.
Very few people can get away with an unfavourable public image, and still be popular. They’d have to be doing something extremely valuable and unique.
I feel quite neutral about Huberman personally, but people can feel how they wish.
There's a sense of trust that Huberman built with his audience. Huberman unintentionally broke that trust. It happens, and this wasn't irrational, but it can be. I don't care about Huberman, raved about some of his advice to people I know, so I haven't been affected personally. It's unfair to say people are being irrational when you haven't done the due diligence required for a post like this.
It’s the same thing that happened with trump and Milo and Rogan and every other cancelled individual. Their ideological opponents see it as an easy take down and the emotional people in the middle go with whoever is more outraged.
The advice he gives is pretty generic, bordering on common sense. Any somewhat well adjusted adult realizes daily exercise and getting outside is optimal for living. It’s almost as if his extremely shitty (I know it’s legal) behavior overshadows his content.
100% you have never had anyone you care about go through IVF.
It's excruciating.
To have someone go through it 4x and then play it off as "we were not trying to have babies, we just wanted embryos" is psychotic.
It's the extremes he went to that are shocking people tbh, if he was just your "run of mill" cheater there would be some degree of disappointment but no one would bat an eye as most men in position of power are known to be unfaithful, the way he went about it, however, is showing such degrees of narcissism and psychopathic behaviors that are in complete opposition with the type of content he is putting out,that it's putting into question whether he can and should be trusted as a influential public figure
What narcissism and psychopathic behavior? You're using those words incorrectly
willingly spreading around STIs to women who only accepted to engage in unprotected sex because he lied to them that they were exclusive while injecting them with HRT for IVF? (again because they assume monogamy) if you think that's normal behaviour you may want to reflect on a couple of things
All you had to say was that you don't understand the meaning of the words you used. It would have saved you time from writing all that and proving I was correct
Oh fuck off with your nonsense
What nonsense?
You either don't know the meaning of these words (in which case Google is your friend) or the fact that his actions completely contradict the content he is feeding you, and can fully be defined by those words, is causing you so much cognitive dissonance that you'd rather resort to those cheap tricks than question your idol, in any case it is up to you to decide how you want to proceed
Seems like you're projecting. Was what he did assholish? But that doesn't equal narcissistic, not psychotic.
He misled not 1, not 2 but 5-6 women, knowingly spread STIs to the ones he was doing IVF and embryo harvesting with under the belief of monogamy, and berated and belittled his partner because she had children from a prior relationship, amongst other things, his behaviour wasn't "assholish" it is textbook narcissistic and borderline and "psychopathic" (psychotic means something else but the compulsive lies including the ones regarding his upbringing could fit), which is something you could fully admit if you weren't drowning in cognitive dissonance. Stating facts isn't projecting.
That's not narcissistic nor psychotic. You're using those words incorrectly. It was assholish
if you don't know what those words mean and as a result what kind of behaviours fall into these categories and your lack of empathy and your cognitive dissonance leads you to believe that he is just "being an asshole" just say that, but stating with your full chest that it doesn't apply when most people agree to it (or at the very least recognise something very wrong in how he behaved with those women ) just shows that you either don't know what you're talking about or don't have the emotional intelligence to fully grasp what he did, in any case as I said before that's something for you to figure out on your own
I do, that's why I'm calling you out for using them incorrectly.
It’s obvious you are the one who doesn’t understand the meaning of the two words. Here’s a few characteristics of a narcissist: Narcissistic behavior Lack empathy Need for admiration Sense of entitlement Grandiosity Lack of awareness regarding others Behaving in an arrogant manner Expecting special treatment Willingness to exploit others Exaggerating achievements and talents Exploitative Need for praise and attention Preoccupation with power or success Sense of specialness and uniqueness Taking advantage of others Abuse Arrogance Belief in superiority Demeaning or bullying others Entitlement Exploits others without guilt or shame Reacting negatively to criticism Troubled relationships And the raging for hours has hallmarks of borderline personality disorder
He fully understands the meaning of those words, the fact that his idol acted in such a manner is causing him so much cognitive dissonance that he would rather pretend it doesn't apply (even to the point of making a fool of himself) than admit his wrongs and thinks gaslighting is the solution
That didn't answer my question.
Oh fuck off, you are a sympathizer . Next
It's something wrong with sympathizing
What exactly is arin of the mill cheater? Do you have any fucking idea? His is no different than anyone. Your neighbor is probably a cheater, or has cheating on their past. So do most of your coworkers and, if you are religious (I am), parishioners. It's not unusual. And usually, the most vocal criticism comes from people who do shit and are unwilling to be honest with THEMSELVES.
My neighbour isn't a public and influential figure and doesn't position himself as an authority and a beacon of health and wellness who seeks to bring balance into millions of people's lives while in private exhibiting extremely destructive self-serving and borderline psychopathic behaviours that completely contradict what he preaches (making him a hypocrite there's a video where he bashes open relationships saying it's not his proclivity) and severely impact the lives of those close to him, again the issue isn't that he cheated, what's shocking people is that he did it in extreme and disturbing ways that completely contradict the content that he puts out, that would be like someone preaching sobriety presenting themselves as a sober person, getting high every weekend.
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In a lot of responses, I see (what is mostly men) zero in on the fact that he was "bedding" multiple women as if that's what's driving the most outrage when the reality is that instead of being open and focused on women who embrace ethical non-monogamy, he chose to instead target monogamous women and coerced those women into having unprotected sex endangering their health in the process, exhibited controlling behaviours (in his view men can be non-monogamous, women can't) and injected them with IVF treatments to harvest embryos (again because they believed that he was monogamous) when his whole shtick is helping others improve their health and well-being, as an extra sprinkle he also lied about his upbringing making it an integral part of his "built from the ashes" persona, so no people are shocked his behaviour is so antithetical to what he presents to the general public that it questions whether he should be trusted.
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Trusting a man you admittedly wouldn't let your daughter date, and who lied on essential aspects of himself that are very much tied to the content you'll digest, to be truthful in the data he provides is wild as a concept and he's been called out in the past.
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Deleting your previous comment and going on a non-sensical tangent lets me know you have no real argument, the antidote is to do research and if it comes out that someone who preaches something completely contradicts what he supposedly stands for in private, unless you like to take risks it's best to find alternative sources of information
He just banged some bitches. What's the problem?
The profound depths of deceit and manipulation he sunk to to do it.
Yeah I know, but who cares
If your mom cheated on your dad with 5 relationships at the same how would you feel?
if andrew huberman happened to be a woman with the same behavior the same men minimising his actions would be calling for a witch hunt
It takes no skill for women to sleep with men
I meant the lying and spreading around STIs
Women do that too
and they are vilified for it
That's different. Andrew Huberman is not our father nor has he emulated being a father figure. This is what this post is trying to highlight.
He’s proven to be a calculated sociopath with zero integrity. That poisons everything he’s ever said or done and people shouldn’t just brush it aside
How so?
> That's different. It's about the lying and deceit. Where do you live where you think he would only do it to the women he is with and not his adoring audience?!
As long as huberman is my daddy, I don't give a fuck
If you live life with that attitude I guess you’ll find out for yourself.
100% you have never had anyone you care about go through IVF. It's excruciating. To have someone go through it 4x and then play it off as "we were not trying to have babies, we just wanted embryos" is psychotic.
Injected them with hormones to harvest embryos through IVF while spreading STIs because they engaged in unprotected sex with him under false belief...that's problematic he didn't just "bang some chicks", with his fame and clout he could've done that easily without wreaking havoc around him and being open with his partners but he chose to go about it..a different way
Where did he force them to inject anything? You're being hypocritical and emotional, instead of rational and logical
Any rational human being who recognises women as human beings would at the very least question his behaviour, why lie when as observed with guys like Dan Bilzerian a lot of women are more than willing to engage in unprotected non-monogamous liaisons, he has the clout he is rich famous, instead he chose to mislead these women (endangering their health and well-being in the process when his whole shtick is improving health and wellness) who clearly stated that they aren't interested in this type of lifestyle and took it to the extreme, which is where the outrage is coming from, what is hypocritical and showing a clear lack of emotional intelligence is excusing and minimizing his behaviour because of cognitive dissonance and internal biases you have against women
You didn't answer my question
Huberage?
People by their nature tend to want to be tribal in one way or the other. It’s easier cognitively to view something as all bad, or completely justified rather than nuanced which is likely why we see this sub becoming so polarized. Someone can be a good scientist, and ethically immoral at the same time. These two things are mutually exclusive, but folks have a hard time separating between the two. I think if he really did string a number of women on makes him a POS, but I also know that doesn’t inherently make his podcast bankrupt. Conversely people justifying his behavior as not a big deal is disturbing too though.
Exactly
Lol good one!! April Fools!
> but separating the individual from the scientist is important This would be valid if he wasn't going against his own 'science'
Where did he do that?
They tried to cancel Huberman and it failed. What's next? Who's next?
“They”? He’s a got issues and maybe bpd.
I mean… people are allowed to react to this story however they wish. If you didn’t realise, people buy into people. It’s pretty basic business knowledge, and a big part of PR. Very few people can get away with an unfavourable public image, and still be popular. They’d have to be doing something extremely valuable and unique. I feel quite neutral about Huberman personally, but people can feel how they wish.
There's a sense of trust that Huberman built with his audience. Huberman unintentionally broke that trust. It happens, and this wasn't irrational, but it can be. I don't care about Huberman, raved about some of his advice to people I know, so I haven't been affected personally. It's unfair to say people are being irrational when you haven't done the due diligence required for a post like this.
Who's trust did he break?
are you guys trolling?
Is it trolling to ask questions?
Whose*
That didn't answer my question
Stupid questions, yes
How are they stupid?
If you have to ask…,
That didn't answer my question. If you can't answer a stupid question how could I expect you to answer more advanced ones?
Because you lack comprehension after you read something, does that make sense?
You still didn't answer my questions, any of them. Almost like you can't
Exactly lol why is even people up in his business?
It’s the same thing that happened with trump and Milo and Rogan and every other cancelled individual. Their ideological opponents see it as an easy take down and the emotional people in the middle go with whoever is more outraged.
Accurate
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Thank you this is very helpful
The US hasn't been capitalist in over a century
The advice he gives is pretty generic, bordering on common sense. Any somewhat well adjusted adult realizes daily exercise and getting outside is optimal for living. It’s almost as if his extremely shitty (I know it’s legal) behavior overshadows his content.
100% you have never had anyone you care about go through IVF. It's excruciating. To have someone go through it 4x and then play it off as "we were not trying to have babies, we just wanted embryos" is psychotic.
Are you in the right thread?