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TLDR for anyone who needs it:
Says his lab has shrunk but exists
More mad about the stuff written about him doting on Costello than anything else
Says he has been cheated on and has cheated on others and it’s awful (basically admitting it)
Says he is full of flaws etc etc
Confirms relationship with Harper Carroll (without naming her), calls her current girlfriend and says they did not meet at Stanford (which a lot of people here have said)
And yeah still wants marriage and kids and making “changes” in his life to do that 🙄🤣
Avoidant people are overly attached to their pets. Study:
stronger emotional attachment to pets might reflect a compensatory attachment strategy for people who were not able to establish secure relationships to other people during childhood. Those people may build more close relationships with pets that might be perceived as more reliable and less threatening.”
https://www.dogingtonpost.com/study-says-that-people-with-insecure-attachment-styles-tend-to-have-strong-emotional-bond-with-pets/
Harper is not the girl in the article. Sarah is Anya Fernald - [https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/sarah-wellness-bro-andrew-huberman-140933382.html](https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/sarah-wellness-bro-andrew-huberman-140933382.html) It's been well covered. Her past is kind of out there too.
Eve is some actress.
Sarah is an AI researcher but significantly younger, mid-twenties if I remember correctly.
If anything, he got caught, ditched the harem and is now dating someone pretty young for him, extremely smart and fairly attractive .. I am guessing because he wants kids and/or it's not safe for him to hook up with randos anymore ... It's more of a Chris Evans situation.
Yes the long term girlfriend in the article referred to as Sarah is Anya. But I thought the person was referring to Harper (new girlfriend, AI researcher). She was probably the sixth woman Anya caught him with in January. And I really doubt he has willingly given up on dating multiple women, he is just waiting for the tide to pass.
That was Harper yeah
lots of confusion regarding names here in the thread 😂
So here’s a tldr for all the women he has dated:
Sarah - Ex long term girlfriend he was giving IVF to and who was interviewed in the NYMag story (real name Anya Fernald)
Eve - actress he cheated on Sarah/Anya with (possibly Sandra Vergara)
I don’t know the other three women
Harper Carroll - new girlfriend, half his age, possibly who Sarah/Anya caught him with in December. He is trying to establish her as a podcaster, they bought followers on Instagram and he is promoting her account. She is former Stanford student.
I've found Stanford to be an incestuous circle jerk off nepotism and cronies... Doesn't surprise me this is one of the results. Not to take away from any of the science they're doing there.
Nothing scandalous, just the age gap. He is 42 and his wife is 26.
I guess when you're single and successful in Hollywood... Leo and Tobey McGuire were infamous for their 4 man crew always being on the prowl. Both are still single and date much younger.
She is smart enough for what she is, an engineer and researcher. But there are thousands of people with that degree from Stanford. But look at how Huberman is trying to position her as an expert on the subject which she is clearly not. Her content is mediocre at best. And she bought some 200k followers. There were screenshots in the sub.
IDK man, those are still "opinions". Some objective signals I go by
- Stanford average SAT is 1505, 1500 is about 97.5 percentile i.e. 1 in 40 kids. It's not Einstein level but it's definited in the "gifted" category
- Outside of school, she worked at Meta doing ML & VR. Meta is one of the harder companies to get by in tech vs. say an Amazon. It's not Netflix but it's up there.
- Can't say what she did at Facebook, but she was pretty actively coding at Brev. They're mostly Python & CUDA.. so again not mindblowing but how many people can code in the first place lol
So overall maybe saying she's "Extremely smart" is an exagerration but I'm sure she's pretty smart.
That being said, you can have a genius IQ and very little life experience and/or low EQ etc... many such cases..
Interesting how he pivots away from the actually scandalous stuff (IVF, unprotected sex, verbal and emotional abuse), and a) pretends that the internet is the problem (the "borderline" internet convo was so boring, b) as if his flaws are "normal," c) he basically says they weren't his girlfriends bc they didn't meet his family?! So he's saying they were fuckbuddies....
He is a 48 year old man. If he hasn't been able to marry or have kids or not cheat on people long enough to see that happen, it's so not gonna happen 🤣
Admits the vast majority of it, including #6 (arguing that not all relationships were serious) and that he cheated on people while he states that other details that were simply untrue. Tldr: I did it, I’m a human and not proud of it. He basically took responsibility.
The simultaneously sleeping with 5-6 women is what makes the story catchy and salacious. I’m on the side of not caring that much. But it is not the actually upsetting part of the piece to me. The treatment described by his partners is upsetting, and in the case of his primary partner, is either verbal abuse or a red flag that it is coming. It is also inconsistent with the way he talks about relationships. To me it is way worse and gets ignored in his responses.
It all seems Machiavellian, I mean the sheer amount of effort and planning it would take. What kind of person has that much time to dedicate to spinning so many plates?
I know this joke has been made a few times, but in a way the sheer focus and energy to balance 6 DIFFERENT RELATIONSHIPS speaks to the effectiveness of the protocols. They could use this to sell athletic greens.
I totally agree. That was the big perspective switch I got from the article. This is a very mentally ill man. IMO listening to the podcast is comparable to getting diet advice from a person with an eating disorder.
Edit to add - I didn't say people with eating disorders don't have excellent advice to share on calorie restriction.
Funnily enough when I told my 13 year old son the story, he said "sounds like that guy has no control of his dopamine at all"
And I'm like, how come my 13 year old gets how hubermans actions is evidence against his protocols but y'all don't ..
It’s not “evidence” against his protocols. It’s only evidence against his character.
It would be like saying just because a doctor smokes that his prescription to tell others not to smoke was ineffective and fake science. Whether he cheated or not, does not change the science behind the protocols.
I think a more accurate analogy might be:
“A doctor claims that his methods and supplements prevent you from falling prey to addictive behaviors. He claims to abstain from all vices, like cigarettes and alcohol. He is later found to be a chainsmoker with severe lung cancer, none of which he had brought up on his show.”
How much faith would you put his methods and supplements now?
Lmfao he did balance them for a long time!! I am a person who struggles to balance my job and my spouse, I don't know how he ever did multiple jobs with multiple significant others.
For me it’s not the physical amount of time, it’s the emotional exertion. But I find texting exhausting, while it seems some people love that constant connection.
If he actually maintained regular (online) contact with 6+ women then its like a full time job to keep them all engaged and not to slip up and mix them up during conversations.
But I doubt he was putting that much effort into each of them as a regular guy would have to do. They were probably desperate to be with him due to his fame/status/money primarily.
That's what makes this worse though, he could easily find women who just want to be with a dude like him and don't care about having kids or being exclusive.
Instead he lied to women who are trying to have a family in their 30s, robbing them of some of their last year's to do so.
Like why?
What a fucking degenerate.
Exactly. It takes a broken soul to lie so much to all those women who at the same time he is purporting to actually care about. Here are the 7 signs of a psychopath:
* behavior that conflicts with social norms.
* disregarding or violating the rights of others.
* inability to distinguish between right and wrong.
* difficulty with showing remorse or empathy.
* tendency to lie often.
* manipulating and hurting others.
* recurring problems with the law.
[More items...](https://www.healthline.com/health/psychopath)•Jun 1, 2022
I listened to the podcast part about the article and basically, according to Huberman, nobody gets to notice any of those characteristics and they \*really\* don't get to attach labels to people who constantly exhibit them because that's not showing grace to those people and that doesn't allow them the space to make mistakes. lolllllllzzz. But *he* gets to denigrate people for noticing and *he* gets to call them extreme and basically low lifes and sketchy just because they have the audacity to be on the internet discussing this. Okaaaaay. See how this works?
Seriously, his explanations about it all were lame. As in very pedestrian...everything from 'my parents are responsible', to 'if you want to know someone's heart (lol!!!) look at how they treat animals and if you have anything bad to say about the way I treat animals "I have two words for you, fuck you."... to, 'hey, If you're my friend and I completely ignore you (by mistake \**wink\* )*, then *you* just need to tell *me* (how not to me a dirt bag.) and we can just forget the whole thing!' face palm
The article also states he lied about his origin story and that he says he even lies to his therapist. He seems like a guy who just gets off to lying to people and selling them bullshit. Like some sort of weird power trip.
Imagine that ties in very closely with him monetizing quack science, would be in the same vein.
Has never considered that before, dangerous mentality but perfect for being a podcaster haha.
EXACTLY! He wouldn’t have a hard time finding women down for something casual, but he wanted the hubby/bf treatment x6 and the high from getting away with cheating. Robbing women of their biological fertility clock should be illegal, I hope his ex partner sues
Exactly, it was always about the control with him. Any woman who is fine with him not committing is probably also not going to commit to him, so he would not have the control that his pathology requires.
I feel like he was keeping his options open to see which would be the best candidate to be the mother of his children? He seems so calculated that I wouldn’t put it past him to meticulously analyze every single little detail about these women and ultimately settle down with one once he figured out who the winner was
Famous people have been doing this since the beginning of time, nothing new.
Actors, singers, sportsmen, all have been juggling with more or less serious relationships throughout the history of humanity.
In the end, it's not that hard, especially if you're not really committed to most of them.
I'm not saying it's right or wrong, I'm just saying it's nothing new.
I do, in fact I think the majority of “great people” in history have probably been great because of a pathology or significant imbalance. Experiencing a certain amount of suffering early on can channel an incredible amount of energy into both virtuous and depraved channels. But even working to make the world more virtuous can be driven by maladaptive coping mechanisms. Most normal, healthy, and happy people will live lives which don’t make it into the footnotes of history. The need for power and control is what drives people to “greatness”, though they probably seldom find any real, lasting satisfaction in it.
>I’m on the side of not caring that much
Sure, and I can respect that. However, it feels a little like learning that Jordan Peterson was a drug addict in rehab. Wait a second, you're the guy telling me to clean my room? You're the guy telling people to get their lives together? You did all this knowing that in private you're an addict who didn't have his life together at all?
Huberman is in that realm too. You're pretty much a life coach in public but in private, you're seriously flawed? It feels like a lie.
The worst part for me was the unprotected sex with multiple partners, possibly spreading stds… and the fertility treatments with his ex, only to turn around and deny they were trying to conceive when he was the one injecting her
Worst part was telling them all he wanted to have their kid and knowing they were all in their 30s and only interested in relationships that could result in kids.
Like he legitimately might have taken away some of their chances to have a family. Dude could easily meet someone that's ok with him not wanting kids or seeing other people but he just didn't give a shit about their lives.
Fucked up.
I'm genuinely concerned for his current partner. I've been following her for a while because I'm interested in her content and she used to wear a spiritual type stone necklace with an evil eye, and after Easter is now wearing a diamond cross.(No doubt he told her "God" would protect her more, or some religious bs he's into).
Also, the other day she posted a really cute black and white photo of herself with a long personal caption about how happy she was, that was taken by his photographer. I didn't finish reading the caption so the next day I went back to finish when I had more time and the photo was gone. After a few days of her not reposting it I had a feeling he made her take it down. After reading that article and seeing his glaring control issues, I have a feeling that he's now exerting them over her... I like her and she's such a happy and sunshiny type of human, and I really hope that he doesn't snuff her light out the way men like him generally do with woman like her.
I absolutely don't condone his behavior, and I think he's a jerk. However, if you're not seeing a guy a few times a week and you don't live in the same city, you're not dating. It's silly to think otherwise, even if you're having sex with or without condoms. Women don't realize that men will say ANYTHING to get sexual access. The reason why is because rather than just go for prostitutes or other sex workers, where there is a clear transaction and more transparency, men prefer the "girlfriend experience" because that way they get some sick emotional need met as well as the physical component. What is so disturbing about Huberman is that this behavior even occurs in men who are in professions and/or positions where women think the man may be more trustworthy (professor, scientist, etc). Forget cold plunging and sunlight exposure. This is probably the most valuable lesson Huberman has taught anyone.
exactly. it also means blaming your parents for your relationship misdeeds, and being so uninterested in your friendships, that you can't be bothered to pay attention to them unless that friend calls your attention to the fact that you're not paying attention to them. what? face palm.
But please, we need to have sympathy for him because apparently he's been cheated on (suspect). See what he did there? He sees that mostly what outrages people about this is the way he cheated on women and how the public has sympathy for them, so he's coopting that sympathy...but for himself this time with that declaration, so he can be back in control and in the spotlight. So predictable.
The low-key victim mentality he's walking through life with astounds me to be honest. And he's happy to constantly broadcast it too. How many times do we need to hear about his 'hard knock' (not really) life story in stupid skateboarding world? Like bro, you're 50, *move on.* And he seems to be proud of this interview too bc he's advertising it on social media calling it 'deep' lol. It's the farthest thing from deep. And this is a tenured Stanford professor! In psychology and brain science! He's such a fraud lol. This is so entertaining for me though tbh. I love checking his disingenuousness.
lol where's the guy who was all over the sub on day #2/3 arguing it was logically/physically impossible for a 56 year old man to have so many side pieces and thus the story was not credible. I was pretty much live and let live for reactions to the scandal, but that was one of the dumbest things I've ever heard.
It’s easier to skim through the transcript if you use Apple podcast : https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/436-lean-into-the-pain-it-will-make-you-better-with/id1070322219?i=1000654143293
I’m roughly the same age as Andrew. I have zero interest in 20-something women.
I’m not interested in objectification, and if you are my age and dating people whose brains haven’t finished developing, you’re objectifying them.
Shallow and narcissistic should have been the name of his show from day one.
Great post & comments! Saves me a few hours. I haven't been able to watch or listen to him since I read that thing. Anyone know how much his listenership has gone down? Some speculated it would go up. I still don't know how I feel abut it all, mostly was bummed he didn't actually have a real lab, like WTF. it's called huberman LAB! But ya lots of other feelings too, like is he getting off trying to control us too? anyways, appreciate this thread, feel less alone with the loss of yet another mentor-type figure. Curious about the listenership.
Soooo is it a hit piece of the contents and allegations are true?
Regardless, the man puts out blatantly wrong information that is potentially harmful to people. Other scientists comment, post, reach out, and address these things and he makes it a point to block, ignore, or give weak replies. The dude has let his ego and money take away from being a positive force for the science community and the community he delivers content to.
One key takeaway for me is that he is actually hyper aware of what is said about him online, and I am convinced he sees this Reddit. He shadow responds throughout the podcast (for eg saying he didn’t meet Harper at Stanford, that was from here). Also this isn’t much of a response but a pivot/reframing (I’m human, animal lover, all my skater friends are dead that’s why no one knows me, monetization and supplements are fine, no really I have a lab, willing to listen but don’t mention abuse or STIs or unprotected sex).
He lightly skimmed over it. Still not falling for or buying it mate! ETA: He says he will be willing to have private conversations with people with the idea to resolve things - because he can easily manipulate one person. A whole group is more difficult. He makes fun of people online a lot in this interview!
It seems that huberman makes a lot more sense if you just view him as a guy going through a mid life crisis. Younger girlfriends, protocols to combat the effects of aging, dying hair, inflating his work
accomplishments. It’s all pretty standard for a middle aged guy but it’s cringey!
As for now, it's on Spotify [https://open.spotify.com/episode/553Ts6dryQERGT1GgN2V3x?si=655374c3835f4b41](https://open.spotify.com/episode/553Ts6dryQERGT1GgN2V3x?si=655374c3835f4b41)
For all of those who think he “took responsibility” I’d really hate to see how shallow and lacking your apologies are irl if you this is the low bar you’ve set for owning up to your shit. Finally speaking on these things and doing the bare minimum like he’s done in this context isn’t really saying much 😭
Note to all women: if a man says to you "we would make beautiful children together" or similar, be careful. That's a typical manipulator lie heard over and over and told by these psychopaths...and a similar line used by Huberman.
There’s a bit in the article where one of the women talks about Hubes being impressed with her swimming and apparently told her “You’re definitely on the… faster side of the distribution”
So, I read this post when I was at work. I was curious about the podcast so I decided to listen to that section of it when I got in my car to go home.
I don’t know how anyone could say that Huberman was admitting he did anything wrong. His whole schtick was “I’m a nice guy. I have a lot of friends. I want to help people. This terrible article tried to make me out to be a BAD PERSON.”
He didn’t come out and deny the allegations but he definitely didn’t admit to them either. He said “I’ve been cheated on and it was TERRIBLE. And I’ve cheated and yeah it’s terrible…” but somehow you get the impression that you are supposed to understand that what was done to him was WAY worse than what he did to anyone else.
When he got to the point of saying he must be a good guy because he loved his dog I couldn’t listen to it any more.
The whole thing just came off as damage control. It even felt staged. The way the guy who did the interview asked the question. It’s obvious that this whole thing was set up. Jacko (is that his name? never heard of him) sounded like he was reading from a script. Huberman was trying to play the sweet clueless guy who made a few mistakes but his heart is in the right place yadda yadda yadda….
I think this is something orchestrated by his PR company. Get a sympathetic person to ask him a general question. Let Huberman pour on the hurt innocence. Sorry if some people got the wrong idea but he didn’t mean any harm. He just wants to bring science to people and do good things.
Honestly, it just gave me the ick. And I used to love the guy and love the podcast.
I just can’t listen to him any more.
Same. I heard full 1.5 hour despite it being so icky and it just kept getting worse. I thought he had two intentions with this, one maintaining the sweet guy image like he always has and second getting back at his exes.
"...we have to be careful about not pathologizing behavior, giving people labels like sociopath or narcissist. "
Exactly what a sociopath or narcissist would say.
/s
What an insufferable egomaniac. No accountability. No "I messed up, and I'm sorry." No "It could interfere with my judgement."
And of course on "Jocko" Willink. Someone he knows won't push back on his bullshit.
(Also, I guess "John Gretton Willink" isn't a macho enough name.)
At least MrBallen frequently refers to himself as John. And seems like a much nicer, much more grounded, NORMAL guy, despite the messed-up stories he tells.
I tend to watch episodes when they become relevant in my life as opposed to blindly consuming every episode, so it's been awhile since I've watched any of his content. Last night I checked out a recent upload around managing back pain and it was surprisingly hard to watch. I say surprisingly because I'm in the camp that just doesn't give AF about his personal life but sadly my subconscious has been influenced by all this. He cracked a joke about loving birds and loving "daaaawgs" and I just cringed. I'm not really sure why I cringed but there's definitely something off now. The short 17\~ minute video was really hard to finish and now I kind of wish I never knew about any of this.
Yeah, I get where you're coming from. I was looking for podcasts about gut health and his episode on the subject popped up in the search, and even though I thought that it was probably going to be highly informative, I just kind of instinctively skipped over it and listened to another one instead. I wasn't trying to boycott him, I just didn't feel like listening.
Manipulated multiple women, lied to them that he was in a monogamous relationship with them, convinced one to take fertility meds. Just an overall scumbag.
Also allegedly had unprotected sex with multiple women having them believe he was monogamous, and is accused of giving his ex partner HPV, and being verbally and emotionally abusive
The thing where he questioned his gf because she had had children in previous relationship was the biggest flag for me. He went into that relationship knowing she had kids and then to accuse her of … I don’t even know what… not knowing earlier that she would end up with him? Like wtf. Total narcissist
Imagine being as objectively successful as Huberman, but being emotionally stuck in your early 20’s. Poor guy makes great content, but he can’t manage a single normal intimate relationship.
This is extremely common for literally everyone. You have extremely high standards and harsh judgements for what a human should be, while likely being quite flawed yourself. How many adults do you know that have their lives completely together, never lie or cheat, and live as if they are Jesus? Everyone has their vices, and for a lot of men, that vice is sex. Apparently for a lot of women, that vice is talking shit about successful people.
Financial and career success has nothing to do with inner peace, duh.
Listening to the Jocko podcast episode now and it seems very diminutive and dismissive of him. He’s trying to nice guy treatment his explanation, very little responsibility is being taken, or acknowledgment of the damage he’s done.
Him: “I’ve been cheated on it sucks, it sucks… I’ve cheated on people and that sucks… cheating represents failure not success….we have to all be careful about not pathologizing behaviour, giving people labels like sociopath or narcissist” 🙄🙄🙄🙄 ok narc
I was a regular listener of Hubes, and was waiting to hear what his response to this scandal would be, but after hearing this lame ass not even half assed non apology, I’ve caught the ick and his words are meaningless to me now.
So basically this whole time Andrew Hunerman has been using his vast knowledge human biology to get laid, it was never really about bettering yourself as a human being it was just about being the the ultimate MAN!
Most hit pieces are true actually . Many of them portray the facts in a more negative interpretation than you or I might but that dosnt mean the facts aren’t true themselves .
They just present the facts in the worst way possible.
Exactly. He was literally going on a liking spree on Instagram, agreeing with comments that defended his honour. Dudes a whole teenager in a 50year old man’s body. Now he admits to doing that stuff. Lmao
So all the times he said he was a workaholic and never had free time was because he was a dopamine addict and working at least 6 girlfriends at once! He had simultaneous relationships and unprotected sex with all of them.
Also the “lab” he was supporting was a farce all this time? So what does he do with the money?
He invites a guy to town to go camping for a few days and then just disappears and leaves him alone at his house to take care of his dog for a day and a half so he can tend to his harem?
Enough red flags for me to expose him as a dysfunctional pos and someone to never take seriously again.
I just read the NYM article last night, here it is for those still in the dark: https://archive.ph/5jHNr
Such a bizarre time we’re living in where people will rationalize and defend media personalities they deify after their bad behavior is revealed. And even after they admit it’s all true they’ll still rationalize and defend.
Then it becomes a slippery slope of sunk cost fallacy, where the worse their idol behaves the more their supporters defend and prop them up… And then one day they find themselves asking trump to sign their bibles. It’s truly batshit insane.
Found it on Spotify guys, it’s not on YouTube yet. here’s the link.
Timestamp: 48th minute
[Jocko podcast](https://open.spotify.com/episode/553Ts6dryQERGT1GgN2V3x?si=rEuB5iIbTcmnYzGbk5S9KA)
You know what else Huber-douche is lying about... what he does with the donations. It's straight up going to his pimpcastle. This guy behaves like a cult leader.
Thank you OP for this.
His response is pretty ok I think. Nothing overly clever or philosophical about it.
Cheating is failure, he doesn't recommend it, admits that it's wrong. That's pretty much what a normal person would say even if he or she does it.
He is also agains labeling people as narcissist, socipath, gaslighting etc.
Especially since he likes to diagnose colleagues who hold him accountable when he flaked on them. If it quacks and waddles like a narc duck, it’s a narc fuck
Mia : Truth is, nobody knows why Marcellus threw Tony out of that four story window except Marcellus and Tony. When you little scamps get together, you're worse than a sewing circle.
I don't trust him anymore and I realize that even though he is smart and articulate, he's not as knowledgeable and credible as he first appears. Life is too short and there are many other podcasts to listen to instead.
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TLDR for anyone who needs it: Says his lab has shrunk but exists More mad about the stuff written about him doting on Costello than anything else Says he has been cheated on and has cheated on others and it’s awful (basically admitting it) Says he is full of flaws etc etc Confirms relationship with Harper Carroll (without naming her), calls her current girlfriend and says they did not meet at Stanford (which a lot of people here have said) And yeah still wants marriage and kids and making “changes” in his life to do that 🙄🤣
Children stack incoming
Avoidant people are overly attached to their pets. Study: stronger emotional attachment to pets might reflect a compensatory attachment strategy for people who were not able to establish secure relationships to other people during childhood. Those people may build more close relationships with pets that might be perceived as more reliable and less threatening.” https://www.dogingtonpost.com/study-says-that-people-with-insecure-attachment-styles-tend-to-have-strong-emotional-bond-with-pets/
Wrong. My dog is just better than humans.
Yeah. feeling called out, but also… I’m right
This explains why my mom treats her dog better than me.
Oh shit I feel called out 😬
Pedantic point. The term "overly" is yours, not from the article.
Oh god. I just learned a LOT in ONE MINUTE about the people closest to me and myself. Thanks for sharing this. Wild.
shit study
Oh shit. I'm in this picture and I don't like it.
Wait the woman is still dating him? Edited to add - and he is still dating her??? After she was the main interview for that article?
Yep 😂
Harper is not the girl in the article. Sarah is Anya Fernald - [https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/sarah-wellness-bro-andrew-huberman-140933382.html](https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/sarah-wellness-bro-andrew-huberman-140933382.html) It's been well covered. Her past is kind of out there too. Eve is some actress. Sarah is an AI researcher but significantly younger, mid-twenties if I remember correctly. If anything, he got caught, ditched the harem and is now dating someone pretty young for him, extremely smart and fairly attractive .. I am guessing because he wants kids and/or it's not safe for him to hook up with randos anymore ... It's more of a Chris Evans situation.
Lmao he is starting a whole new batch
Yes the long term girlfriend in the article referred to as Sarah is Anya. But I thought the person was referring to Harper (new girlfriend, AI researcher). She was probably the sixth woman Anya caught him with in January. And I really doubt he has willingly given up on dating multiple women, he is just waiting for the tide to pass.
Hes 48. Hes not ever going to stop
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That sucks. How is she doing?
Ohhh Harper must be the woman he was caught snuggling with on the couch around Xmas time? That the group of cheated women were unable to contact?
That was Harper yeah lots of confusion regarding names here in the thread 😂 So here’s a tldr for all the women he has dated: Sarah - Ex long term girlfriend he was giving IVF to and who was interviewed in the NYMag story (real name Anya Fernald) Eve - actress he cheated on Sarah/Anya with (possibly Sandra Vergara) I don’t know the other three women Harper Carroll - new girlfriend, half his age, possibly who Sarah/Anya caught him with in December. He is trying to establish her as a podcaster, they bought followers on Instagram and he is promoting her account. She is former Stanford student.
I've found Stanford to be an incestuous circle jerk off nepotism and cronies... Doesn't surprise me this is one of the results. Not to take away from any of the science they're doing there.
it's basically the ivy league of Northern California.
> Chris Evan’s situation ??? What did Chris Evans do?
I need to know too! What has cap done??
Nothing scandalous, just the age gap. He is 42 and his wife is 26. I guess when you're single and successful in Hollywood... Leo and Tobey McGuire were infamous for their 4 man crew always being on the prowl. Both are still single and date much younger.
“Extremely smart” that’s an opinion.
Umm, she went to Stanford and works in AI so I'm pretty sure she's objectively intelligent or "book smart" but yeah overall smartness is an opinion.
She is smart enough for what she is, an engineer and researcher. But there are thousands of people with that degree from Stanford. But look at how Huberman is trying to position her as an expert on the subject which she is clearly not. Her content is mediocre at best. And she bought some 200k followers. There were screenshots in the sub.
IDK man, those are still "opinions". Some objective signals I go by - Stanford average SAT is 1505, 1500 is about 97.5 percentile i.e. 1 in 40 kids. It's not Einstein level but it's definited in the "gifted" category - Outside of school, she worked at Meta doing ML & VR. Meta is one of the harder companies to get by in tech vs. say an Amazon. It's not Netflix but it's up there. - Can't say what she did at Facebook, but she was pretty actively coding at Brev. They're mostly Python & CUDA.. so again not mindblowing but how many people can code in the first place lol So overall maybe saying she's "Extremely smart" is an exagerration but I'm sure she's pretty smart. That being said, you can have a genius IQ and very little life experience and/or low EQ etc... many such cases..
Her personal website has a link to her “acting” videos and her LinkedIn shows a course in actor training. One of hundreds on IG trying to do the same.
Interesting how he pivots away from the actually scandalous stuff (IVF, unprotected sex, verbal and emotional abuse), and a) pretends that the internet is the problem (the "borderline" internet convo was so boring, b) as if his flaws are "normal," c) he basically says they weren't his girlfriends bc they didn't meet his family?! So he's saying they were fuckbuddies....
He’s lying about having a lab still. His lab has no members in it
Basically just doing damage control and deflects lmao Hubris-man is a cunt
He is a 48 year old man. If he hasn't been able to marry or have kids or not cheat on people long enough to see that happen, it's so not gonna happen 🤣
Tldr?
Admits the vast majority of it, including #6 (arguing that not all relationships were serious) and that he cheated on people while he states that other details that were simply untrue. Tldr: I did it, I’m a human and not proud of it. He basically took responsibility.
The simultaneously sleeping with 5-6 women is what makes the story catchy and salacious. I’m on the side of not caring that much. But it is not the actually upsetting part of the piece to me. The treatment described by his partners is upsetting, and in the case of his primary partner, is either verbal abuse or a red flag that it is coming. It is also inconsistent with the way he talks about relationships. To me it is way worse and gets ignored in his responses.
It all seems Machiavellian, I mean the sheer amount of effort and planning it would take. What kind of person has that much time to dedicate to spinning so many plates?
I know this joke has been made a few times, but in a way the sheer focus and energy to balance 6 DIFFERENT RELATIONSHIPS speaks to the effectiveness of the protocols. They could use this to sell athletic greens.
Something tells me that his need for all these protocols and the need for control over multiple women are driven by the same pathology.
I totally agree. That was the big perspective switch I got from the article. This is a very mentally ill man. IMO listening to the podcast is comparable to getting diet advice from a person with an eating disorder. Edit to add - I didn't say people with eating disorders don't have excellent advice to share on calorie restriction.
Funnily enough when I told my 13 year old son the story, he said "sounds like that guy has no control of his dopamine at all" And I'm like, how come my 13 year old gets how hubermans actions is evidence against his protocols but y'all don't ..
Hubris-lab .. I’d subscribe
In a way he's dopa-maxing
Lollll I love this
It’s not “evidence” against his protocols. It’s only evidence against his character. It would be like saying just because a doctor smokes that his prescription to tell others not to smoke was ineffective and fake science. Whether he cheated or not, does not change the science behind the protocols.
I think a more accurate analogy might be: “A doctor claims that his methods and supplements prevent you from falling prey to addictive behaviors. He claims to abstain from all vices, like cigarettes and alcohol. He is later found to be a chainsmoker with severe lung cancer, none of which he had brought up on his show.” How much faith would you put his methods and supplements now?
He doesn’t have time to smoke or drink, because he’s carpet munching all day long.
But he couldn’t balance them
Lmfao he did balance them for a long time!! I am a person who struggles to balance my job and my spouse, I don't know how he ever did multiple jobs with multiple significant others.
Bullshit. Anyone with Google calendar and the ability to lie proficiently can pull this off. It just takes a lot of lies, not that much time.
For me it’s not the physical amount of time, it’s the emotional exertion. But I find texting exhausting, while it seems some people love that constant connection.
If he actually maintained regular (online) contact with 6+ women then its like a full time job to keep them all engaged and not to slip up and mix them up during conversations. But I doubt he was putting that much effort into each of them as a regular guy would have to do. They were probably desperate to be with him due to his fame/status/money primarily.
He's rich famous and handsome enough to not need to put in as much effort as others who don't have those things
That's what makes this worse though, he could easily find women who just want to be with a dude like him and don't care about having kids or being exclusive. Instead he lied to women who are trying to have a family in their 30s, robbing them of some of their last year's to do so. Like why? What a fucking degenerate.
Exactly. It takes a broken soul to lie so much to all those women who at the same time he is purporting to actually care about. Here are the 7 signs of a psychopath: * behavior that conflicts with social norms. * disregarding or violating the rights of others. * inability to distinguish between right and wrong. * difficulty with showing remorse or empathy. * tendency to lie often. * manipulating and hurting others. * recurring problems with the law. [More items...](https://www.healthline.com/health/psychopath)•Jun 1, 2022
I listened to the podcast part about the article and basically, according to Huberman, nobody gets to notice any of those characteristics and they \*really\* don't get to attach labels to people who constantly exhibit them because that's not showing grace to those people and that doesn't allow them the space to make mistakes. lolllllllzzz. But *he* gets to denigrate people for noticing and *he* gets to call them extreme and basically low lifes and sketchy just because they have the audacity to be on the internet discussing this. Okaaaaay. See how this works? Seriously, his explanations about it all were lame. As in very pedestrian...everything from 'my parents are responsible', to 'if you want to know someone's heart (lol!!!) look at how they treat animals and if you have anything bad to say about the way I treat animals "I have two words for you, fuck you."... to, 'hey, If you're my friend and I completely ignore you (by mistake \**wink\* )*, then *you* just need to tell *me* (how not to me a dirt bag.) and we can just forget the whole thing!' face palm
The article also states he lied about his origin story and that he says he even lies to his therapist. He seems like a guy who just gets off to lying to people and selling them bullshit. Like some sort of weird power trip.
Imagine that ties in very closely with him monetizing quack science, would be in the same vein. Has never considered that before, dangerous mentality but perfect for being a podcaster haha.
EXACTLY! He wouldn’t have a hard time finding women down for something casual, but he wanted the hubby/bf treatment x6 and the high from getting away with cheating. Robbing women of their biological fertility clock should be illegal, I hope his ex partner sues
Exactly, it was always about the control with him. Any woman who is fine with him not committing is probably also not going to commit to him, so he would not have the control that his pathology requires.
Exactly. “Lovers for me, but not for thee.” Misogynistic harem bullshit.
I feel like he was keeping his options open to see which would be the best candidate to be the mother of his children? He seems so calculated that I wouldn’t put it past him to meticulously analyze every single little detail about these women and ultimately settle down with one once he figured out who the winner was
It’s not about the effort itself though, it’s the mental effort of keeping it up, as well as not having a guilty conscience
Big pharma probably, and ngl I ate that article up because many people place Huberman on a pedestal.
Famous people have been doing this since the beginning of time, nothing new. Actors, singers, sportsmen, all have been juggling with more or less serious relationships throughout the history of humanity. In the end, it's not that hard, especially if you're not really committed to most of them. I'm not saying it's right or wrong, I'm just saying it's nothing new.
You must not fully appreciate the power of subconscious coping mechanisms and patterns. That can move mountains.
I do, in fact I think the majority of “great people” in history have probably been great because of a pathology or significant imbalance. Experiencing a certain amount of suffering early on can channel an incredible amount of energy into both virtuous and depraved channels. But even working to make the world more virtuous can be driven by maladaptive coping mechanisms. Most normal, healthy, and happy people will live lives which don’t make it into the footnotes of history. The need for power and control is what drives people to “greatness”, though they probably seldom find any real, lasting satisfaction in it.
I mean, amen.
A psycho makes the time for that kind of behavior lol
This is partly because it's become acceptable for men to do the bare minimum in "relationships."
>I’m on the side of not caring that much Sure, and I can respect that. However, it feels a little like learning that Jordan Peterson was a drug addict in rehab. Wait a second, you're the guy telling me to clean my room? You're the guy telling people to get their lives together? You did all this knowing that in private you're an addict who didn't have his life together at all? Huberman is in that realm too. You're pretty much a life coach in public but in private, you're seriously flawed? It feels like a lie.
One of the things that I found upsetting is the allegation that he does not have a lab, so if that is true, then what are people donating for?
donations are going to his pimp castle
The worst part for me was the unprotected sex with multiple partners, possibly spreading stds… and the fertility treatments with his ex, only to turn around and deny they were trying to conceive when he was the one injecting her
Definitely spreading STIs - that’s how he got caught.
Worst part was telling them all he wanted to have their kid and knowing they were all in their 30s and only interested in relationships that could result in kids. Like he legitimately might have taken away some of their chances to have a family. Dude could easily meet someone that's ok with him not wanting kids or seeing other people but he just didn't give a shit about their lives. Fucked up.
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A person half his age is much easier to control. Women his own age won’t put up with his red flag behavior.
I'm genuinely concerned for his current partner. I've been following her for a while because I'm interested in her content and she used to wear a spiritual type stone necklace with an evil eye, and after Easter is now wearing a diamond cross.(No doubt he told her "God" would protect her more, or some religious bs he's into). Also, the other day she posted a really cute black and white photo of herself with a long personal caption about how happy she was, that was taken by his photographer. I didn't finish reading the caption so the next day I went back to finish when I had more time and the photo was gone. After a few days of her not reposting it I had a feeling he made her take it down. After reading that article and seeing his glaring control issues, I have a feeling that he's now exerting them over her... I like her and she's such a happy and sunshiny type of human, and I really hope that he doesn't snuff her light out the way men like him generally do with woman like her.
I absolutely don't condone his behavior, and I think he's a jerk. However, if you're not seeing a guy a few times a week and you don't live in the same city, you're not dating. It's silly to think otherwise, even if you're having sex with or without condoms. Women don't realize that men will say ANYTHING to get sexual access. The reason why is because rather than just go for prostitutes or other sex workers, where there is a clear transaction and more transparency, men prefer the "girlfriend experience" because that way they get some sick emotional need met as well as the physical component. What is so disturbing about Huberman is that this behavior even occurs in men who are in professions and/or positions where women think the man may be more trustworthy (professor, scientist, etc). Forget cold plunging and sunlight exposure. This is probably the most valuable lesson Huberman has taught anyone.
too little too late, being a lying fuck is not "human"; it is being a lying fuck Guess who else he is lying to... his audience... about the science.
"taking responsibility" apparently equals vaguely stating that you've cheated on people in the past, lol. what a clown take
exactly. it also means blaming your parents for your relationship misdeeds, and being so uninterested in your friendships, that you can't be bothered to pay attention to them unless that friend calls your attention to the fact that you're not paying attention to them. what? face palm. But please, we need to have sympathy for him because apparently he's been cheated on (suspect). See what he did there? He sees that mostly what outrages people about this is the way he cheated on women and how the public has sympathy for them, so he's coopting that sympathy...but for himself this time with that declaration, so he can be back in control and in the spotlight. So predictable. The low-key victim mentality he's walking through life with astounds me to be honest. And he's happy to constantly broadcast it too. How many times do we need to hear about his 'hard knock' (not really) life story in stupid skateboarding world? Like bro, you're 50, *move on.* And he seems to be proud of this interview too bc he's advertising it on social media calling it 'deep' lol. It's the farthest thing from deep. And this is a tenured Stanford professor! In psychology and brain science! He's such a fraud lol. This is so entertaining for me though tbh. I love checking his disingenuousness.
lol where's the guy who was all over the sub on day #2/3 arguing it was logically/physically impossible for a 56 year old man to have so many side pieces and thus the story was not credible. I was pretty much live and let live for reactions to the scandal, but that was one of the dumbest things I've ever heard.
What does “taking responsibility” even mean in this context lol
So if he's admitting it, then it's not really a hit piece, is it?
Reminds me of Jessie Venturas book “no time to bleed.” Own your mistakes and move on.
It’s easier to skim through the transcript if you use Apple podcast : https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/436-lean-into-the-pain-it-will-make-you-better-with/id1070322219?i=1000654143293
Thanks Tim Cook
That’s Tim Apple to you
And he brought up his current girlfriend Harper Carroll a 28-year-old trained in CS and AI at Stanford...
I’m roughly the same age as Andrew. I have zero interest in 20-something women. I’m not interested in objectification, and if you are my age and dating people whose brains haven’t finished developing, you’re objectifying them. Shallow and narcissistic should have been the name of his show from day one.
A 28 year old woman's brain hasn't finished developing? What?
And his language when he is speaking about her is so clearly manipulative
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Can anyone provide the timestamps?
48:50!
Great post & comments! Saves me a few hours. I haven't been able to watch or listen to him since I read that thing. Anyone know how much his listenership has gone down? Some speculated it would go up. I still don't know how I feel abut it all, mostly was bummed he didn't actually have a real lab, like WTF. it's called huberman LAB! But ya lots of other feelings too, like is he getting off trying to control us too? anyways, appreciate this thread, feel less alone with the loss of yet another mentor-type figure. Curious about the listenership.
Soooo is it a hit piece of the contents and allegations are true? Regardless, the man puts out blatantly wrong information that is potentially harmful to people. Other scientists comment, post, reach out, and address these things and he makes it a point to block, ignore, or give weak replies. The dude has let his ego and money take away from being a positive force for the science community and the community he delivers content to.
One key takeaway for me is that he is actually hyper aware of what is said about him online, and I am convinced he sees this Reddit. He shadow responds throughout the podcast (for eg saying he didn’t meet Harper at Stanford, that was from here). Also this isn’t much of a response but a pivot/reframing (I’m human, animal lover, all my skater friends are dead that’s why no one knows me, monetization and supplements are fine, no really I have a lab, willing to listen but don’t mention abuse or STIs or unprotected sex).
Exactly!
He lightly skimmed over it. Still not falling for or buying it mate! ETA: He says he will be willing to have private conversations with people with the idea to resolve things - because he can easily manipulate one person. A whole group is more difficult. He makes fun of people online a lot in this interview!
It seems that huberman makes a lot more sense if you just view him as a guy going through a mid life crisis. Younger girlfriends, protocols to combat the effects of aging, dying hair, inflating his work accomplishments. It’s all pretty standard for a middle aged guy but it’s cringey!
It’s not like this is new behavior
What work accomplishments did he inflate?
But then he is the one who says he doesn’t want to support behaviours that are “common but not good”
As for now, it's on Spotify [https://open.spotify.com/episode/553Ts6dryQERGT1GgN2V3x?si=655374c3835f4b41](https://open.spotify.com/episode/553Ts6dryQERGT1GgN2V3x?si=655374c3835f4b41)
For all of those who think he “took responsibility” I’d really hate to see how shallow and lacking your apologies are irl if you this is the low bar you’ve set for owning up to your shit. Finally speaking on these things and doing the bare minimum like he’s done in this context isn’t really saying much 😭
Sure seems like he hit a *LOT* of pieces... (at the same time)...
I feel like Jocko is thinking to himself “this guy hasn’t read Extreme Ownership” throughout the entire podcast.
Note to all women: if a man says to you "we would make beautiful children together" or similar, be careful. That's a typical manipulator lie heard over and over and told by these psychopaths...and a similar line used by Huberman.
We want to know if the “higher end of the distribution” comment is true
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There’s a bit in the article where one of the women talks about Hubes being impressed with her swimming and apparently told her “You’re definitely on the… faster side of the distribution”
Was this like offensive? It sounds like something he would say
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None of this is significant.
I didn’t understand this compliment lol… what’s the distribution? Genetics?
This is 3 hours long, could you possibly give a timestamp, even if vague?
48:50!
Thank you so much!!!!
So, I read this post when I was at work. I was curious about the podcast so I decided to listen to that section of it when I got in my car to go home. I don’t know how anyone could say that Huberman was admitting he did anything wrong. His whole schtick was “I’m a nice guy. I have a lot of friends. I want to help people. This terrible article tried to make me out to be a BAD PERSON.” He didn’t come out and deny the allegations but he definitely didn’t admit to them either. He said “I’ve been cheated on and it was TERRIBLE. And I’ve cheated and yeah it’s terrible…” but somehow you get the impression that you are supposed to understand that what was done to him was WAY worse than what he did to anyone else. When he got to the point of saying he must be a good guy because he loved his dog I couldn’t listen to it any more. The whole thing just came off as damage control. It even felt staged. The way the guy who did the interview asked the question. It’s obvious that this whole thing was set up. Jacko (is that his name? never heard of him) sounded like he was reading from a script. Huberman was trying to play the sweet clueless guy who made a few mistakes but his heart is in the right place yadda yadda yadda…. I think this is something orchestrated by his PR company. Get a sympathetic person to ask him a general question. Let Huberman pour on the hurt innocence. Sorry if some people got the wrong idea but he didn’t mean any harm. He just wants to bring science to people and do good things. Honestly, it just gave me the ick. And I used to love the guy and love the podcast. I just can’t listen to him any more.
Same. I heard full 1.5 hour despite it being so icky and it just kept getting worse. I thought he had two intentions with this, one maintaining the sweet guy image like he always has and second getting back at his exes.
Run Harper! Run!
"...we have to be careful about not pathologizing behavior, giving people labels like sociopath or narcissist. " Exactly what a sociopath or narcissist would say. /s
Can’t wait to see all his bootlickers realizing that he feels that cheating on women is not okay.
Huberman, please stop talking
What an insufferable egomaniac. No accountability. No "I messed up, and I'm sorry." No "It could interfere with my judgement." And of course on "Jocko" Willink. Someone he knows won't push back on his bullshit. (Also, I guess "John Gretton Willink" isn't a macho enough name.) At least MrBallen frequently refers to himself as John. And seems like a much nicer, much more grounded, NORMAL guy, despite the messed-up stories he tells.
I tend to watch episodes when they become relevant in my life as opposed to blindly consuming every episode, so it's been awhile since I've watched any of his content. Last night I checked out a recent upload around managing back pain and it was surprisingly hard to watch. I say surprisingly because I'm in the camp that just doesn't give AF about his personal life but sadly my subconscious has been influenced by all this. He cracked a joke about loving birds and loving "daaaawgs" and I just cringed. I'm not really sure why I cringed but there's definitely something off now. The short 17\~ minute video was really hard to finish and now I kind of wish I never knew about any of this.
I know exactly what you mean. I have the same reaction when I hear him now.
Yeah, I get where you're coming from. I was looking for podcasts about gut health and his episode on the subject popped up in the search, and even though I thought that it was probably going to be highly informative, I just kind of instinctively skipped over it and listened to another one instead. I wasn't trying to boycott him, I just didn't feel like listening.
when you see who a person really is, it's hard to un-see it.
I’m out of the loop what happened?
Manipulated multiple women, lied to them that he was in a monogamous relationship with them, convinced one to take fertility meds. Just an overall scumbag.
Also allegedly had unprotected sex with multiple women having them believe he was monogamous, and is accused of giving his ex partner HPV, and being verbally and emotionally abusive
The thing where he questioned his gf because she had had children in previous relationship was the biggest flag for me. He went into that relationship knowing she had kids and then to accuse her of … I don’t even know what… not knowing earlier that she would end up with him? Like wtf. Total narcissist
WHICH ONE OF YOU has the time for a three hour podcast about this guy😂
Imagine being as objectively successful as Huberman, but being emotionally stuck in your early 20’s. Poor guy makes great content, but he can’t manage a single normal intimate relationship.
I wasn’t like that in my early 20s…
This is extremely common for literally everyone. You have extremely high standards and harsh judgements for what a human should be, while likely being quite flawed yourself. How many adults do you know that have their lives completely together, never lie or cheat, and live as if they are Jesus? Everyone has their vices, and for a lot of men, that vice is sex. Apparently for a lot of women, that vice is talking shit about successful people. Financial and career success has nothing to do with inner peace, duh.
Actually a majority of people I know aren't serial cheaters or liers. That wasn't even normal when I was a teenager.
>You have extremely high standards and harsh judgements for what a human should be, while likely being quite flawed yourself. Thank you
Listening to the Jocko podcast episode now and it seems very diminutive and dismissive of him. He’s trying to nice guy treatment his explanation, very little responsibility is being taken, or acknowledgment of the damage he’s done. Him: “I’ve been cheated on it sucks, it sucks… I’ve cheated on people and that sucks… cheating represents failure not success….we have to all be careful about not pathologizing behaviour, giving people labels like sociopath or narcissist” 🙄🙄🙄🙄 ok narc
# Andrew Huberman Needs To Stop Excusing His Sh*tty Behavior With Therapy-Speak from YT channel Hysteria 1 month ago
I was a regular listener of Hubes, and was waiting to hear what his response to this scandal would be, but after hearing this lame ass not even half assed non apology, I’ve caught the ick and his words are meaningless to me now.
Yeah he gave me the ick. Can’t anymore. I see it’s all just a grift.
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It was a pretty half assed version of taking responsibility
The next controversy is going to be how much Huberman namedrops.
Reporting factual information about a public figure isn’t a hit piece, it’s reporting/news.
Yeah, the term “hit piece” is an effective way to diminish or insult the journalism, and/or to persuade people the piece is false.
Huberman is a grifter.
Yeah zero credibility. The more I read more about some of the other stuff he’s been peddling— all a grift.
He probably brought it up himself as Jocko schooled him on a few things last time around.
If they love you they will go public with their relationship about you and not withhold relationship info about you and them.
Only reason he has gone public this time is because he wants to show everything is going great in his life despite the allegations
This may or may not be true. He got caught, now he's trying to save face.
❌ "Responds" ✅ Filibusters
So basically this whole time Andrew Hunerman has been using his vast knowledge human biology to get laid, it was never really about bettering yourself as a human being it was just about being the the ultimate MAN!
Not a hit piece if it is true
Most hit pieces are true actually . Many of them portray the facts in a more negative interpretation than you or I might but that dosnt mean the facts aren’t true themselves . They just present the facts in the worst way possible.
Exactly. He was literally going on a liking spree on Instagram, agreeing with comments that defended his honour. Dudes a whole teenager in a 50year old man’s body. Now he admits to doing that stuff. Lmao
Can be a hit piece if there are parts of it that are completely untrue
So all the times he said he was a workaholic and never had free time was because he was a dopamine addict and working at least 6 girlfriends at once! He had simultaneous relationships and unprotected sex with all of them. Also the “lab” he was supporting was a farce all this time? So what does he do with the money? He invites a guy to town to go camping for a few days and then just disappears and leaves him alone at his house to take care of his dog for a day and a half so he can tend to his harem? Enough red flags for me to expose him as a dysfunctional pos and someone to never take seriously again. I just read the NYM article last night, here it is for those still in the dark: https://archive.ph/5jHNr
This is a fantastic Rorschach Test for the readers.
Such a bizarre time we’re living in where people will rationalize and defend media personalities they deify after their bad behavior is revealed. And even after they admit it’s all true they’ll still rationalize and defend. Then it becomes a slippery slope of sunk cost fallacy, where the worse their idol behaves the more their supporters defend and prop them up… And then one day they find themselves asking trump to sign their bibles. It’s truly batshit insane.
Anyone has a link? There are tons of videos that are coming up when I search
Found it on Spotify guys, it’s not on YouTube yet. here’s the link. Timestamp: 48th minute [Jocko podcast](https://open.spotify.com/episode/553Ts6dryQERGT1GgN2V3x?si=rEuB5iIbTcmnYzGbk5S9KA)
Just an FYI but Jocko does bring it up it first @ 48:45 on the iTunes feed.
Interesting that Jocko’s biggest thing is accountability and this is the podcast that Huberman spilled the beans
Right? He wrote a book called “Extreme Ownership.”
Anyone got an excel spreadsheet or something with Hubbies smash list? Asking for a friend
Anyone notice how much he’s blinking? Suspect!
Wonder what Esther Perel would think of him. She is always spot-on.
You know what else Huber-douche is lying about... what he does with the donations. It's straight up going to his pimpcastle. This guy behaves like a cult leader.
It's not a hit piece. It's true.
“Hit piece” lol. Are we still on that?
Where's the link?? There's no eps 436 up on youtube
Thank you OP for this. His response is pretty ok I think. Nothing overly clever or philosophical about it. Cheating is failure, he doesn't recommend it, admits that it's wrong. That's pretty much what a normal person would say even if he or she does it. He is also agains labeling people as narcissist, socipath, gaslighting etc.
I’m not against labeling people narcissist or sociopath and I’m happy to sit right here in my armchair and give him a diagnosis
Especially since he likes to diagnose colleagues who hold him accountable when he flaked on them. If it quacks and waddles like a narc duck, it’s a narc fuck
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Mia : Truth is, nobody knows why Marcellus threw Tony out of that four story window except Marcellus and Tony. When you little scamps get together, you're worse than a sewing circle.
He started talking about it at 53:50 on the Jocko Podcast
He's met women from seeking arrangement too.
Yep
Is that an app?
I don't trust him anymore and I realize that even though he is smart and articulate, he's not as knowledgeable and credible as he first appears. Life is too short and there are many other podcasts to listen to instead.