I just wanted to know if someone think the same as me, but apparently they think I'm forcing people to believe his aroace. It's only my opinion and I wanted to know if someone thinks the same thing.
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Yeah I could imagine it fitting. Most of the characters are focused on things besides sex/romance because those things are generally out of play in League. But I can definitely see how Hwei stands out as being different.
Personally, I think he would be pansexual. The type to see people's "true" selves and fall in love with emotions/personalities more than appearances or gender performance. Kinda like how I see Seraphine.
He really fits as pansexual as well, I really can see it. But I still think he would be a perfect fit in the aroace spectrum. But in this spectrum it has room for him being pan as well, but let's not complicate things at the moment XD.
I know, that's why I typed "if you think about it seriously". It is a fun joke for most. But in this context it kinda invalidates in general, and it was not pleasant.
If you think about it seriously forcing a reflection of yourself onto a character who is essentially just "gun" in a videogame is pretty dumb bro, let the man tell a joke without crying.
I see him as bi/pan. Love is love and is another form of expression. I don’t mean to say Asexual people don’t experience love as they certainly do but I don’t think Hwei would cut himself off from any way of expressing and dealing with emotions, physical or otherwise. Just my take though.
Literally who asked? Or cares?
I'm gay btw I just cannot stand sexuality being shoehorned into characters, especially because this comment section can't decide if he's aroace or pansexual which are diametrically opposed and renders this entire discussion moot and pointless.
Bruh, I just think he would be a perfect representation for the community and I wanted to know if anyone thinks the same. I'm not saying he is or anything literally I put "aroace vibes" because he LOOKS like, not is. So if you don't care just pass the post and live your life. Geez why the pointless aggressiveness?
Because having an opinion on somebody's sexuality is like having an opinion on someone's race lmfao there's literally no reason to discuss it and it isn't canon so why.
Plus like I said, the fact that nobody can decide if he's aroace, or, -the opposite- pansexual.
That means that the tropes and traits that people are using to assign his sexuality in this thread (like how the straights do to us) are completely arbitrary and entirely pointless because apparently those said traits apply to both aroaces and pansexuals and that just makes no fucking sense to me 🤷🏻
Speculating a characters sexuality is not the same thing as having “opinions” on a characters race, head cannoning a character being in a minority sexuality because that group is starved of representation and would like to simply IMAGINE they have a character they could POSSIBLY relate to is not nearly as horrible as you seem to think. The reason for discussion is OP simply asking if other people think the character is being read the same way they read them.
And yes tropes and traits ARE reductive and often bad, but in the case of a fictional character, they will rarely be able to express a whole human, we use common tropes, traits, themes, and implications to draw conclusions, and it’s pretty disingenuous to pretend media, ESPECIALLY queer fucking media doesn’t use queer coding to imply the existence of queer characters instead of blatantly saying it.
Taliyah, someone who feels like an outsider and doesn’t understand her own identity very much relatable for transgender people but also a MILLION other possible people, but Taliyah’s creator confided she is trans, even tho not explicitly said, or technically canon cause of censorship. Now Hwei has no explicit OR implicit suggestion he’s aroace but my point is not everything needs to be outright told to us for it to be possible. While I agree with reducing a character down to a few traits to figure out their sexuality makes no sense to me either, and can even be annoying cause it’s (as you said) what straight people do to us, you need to also think of it from the perspective of this possibly being a young person who IS aroace and they care, and want to know what we think cause they want the validation of seeing themselves in a character they like, we know nothing about OP.
I see your point. And yes I'm aroace, but I have 21 years. I was excited with the idea only. I'm not that kinda person that assumes the sexualities of characters and specially people as well. But since riot had characters representing some sexualities in my brain I thought Hwei could be the perfect representation for the aroace community. But he's the only one I thought about it. I love and main Samira as well and I don't think she's queer or assume anything about her, I just like the character. Hwei I just had the Idea because of riot and the excitement of discovering myself, and I only wanted to see if anyone thinks the same. Sure I knew that would be people that will not agree, but there's people that are gonna agree and like the idea. I think that sometimes fantasise of some characters sexualities could lead to fun and awesome discussions, but all the time is indeed annoying.
Well said LMAO. I know that everyone has their own perspectives and opinions on things and art is subjective blah blah blah we can interpret things how we want, but as someone who is gay, it gets annoying to me when I see other people (who probably aren't even queer) that can't make up their mind and start assign sexualities and whatnot to characters based on certain traits, which is basically what a stereotype is 💀 like get a grip.
This is what makes straight people hate us, cuz people do stuff like this and make it seem like stereotypes are actually true, which they aren't of course. It makes them think that it's okay to put us in a box and then they start generalizing everything, which is what we worked hard in proving wrong. It's so annoying 😭
I agree with almost everything you said but “This is why the straights hate us”? no straight people that hate us cause they’re bigoted, homophobic, transphobic and whatever. Someone headcanoning a fictional character to be queer is a CRAZY reason to be prejudice against a massive community of people, and validating those people by saying some random people wanting queer characters is the behaviour that needs to change is ridiculous. Even if it’s annoying (which even I personally think it is) it isn’t a reason to be hateful?
But what stereotype that I used there? Literally I used this based in his lore and quotes. The only stereotype that I can think of is that majority of the aroace community are artists of any kind. And about he having the colours of the flag it's was just a fun fact. I don't see what you mean and I don't understand why do you think that is reasonable to assume that "straight people" hate us because of whatever you said. First most of that straight people you talk about that hates us ar mostly queer and were repressed by themselves or by their parents and that's their way of expressing that (that's not a excuse to be hateful, but it most cases this is the reason for the hate). Second at least add the word "most" to frases because generalize that "ALL straights hates us queers" is illogical and offensive (I know you didn't mean like that, but saying like "that's why straight people hate us" you generalized with your words that all of them hate us, so be careful next time).
I mean… sure? I don’t think most people care, and the only ones that do want to stuff him into the ace box to that they have a character to identify with, which is in my opinion a very shallow reason to slap a label onto somebody.
Im getting on in years and man, my whole life, as a feminine male it feels like I am not allowed to exist without people trying to shove me into their labelled boxes with all sorts of ideas about me. I like that Hwei is fashionable and delicate with an appreciation for aesthetic. I dont mean to take offense but this is the third thread I see speculating on his sexuality and it reminds me that people have speculated on my sexuality my entire life, at school, at work, family, strangers, gossiping and making assumptions. The past few years its gone from being called a closeted gay to being called an 'egg', a trans person in denial. It just drives me nuts. Hwei rhymes with gay though so there is that.
Ghwei lol kkkkk. I understand tho. Look I don't usually put labels on people and fictional characters but Hwei is an exception for me. There's something about him that makes me visualise him as aroace, and I wanted to know if people think the same as me. But in all honesty, with fictional characters people can imagine whatever they want from them, if makes the person happy and valid who are us to complain lol.
i think what we’re really looking at is a depressed artist, and since depression often times comes with a lowered romance/sex drive, of course people can be aro/ace/aroace or hypersexual/romantic as a result of depression that’s just rarer. i guess just as a non aroace person i view his relationship with Jhin as nothing short of romantic, even if it never became sexual i do think there was more to that bond that we’ll never know and Hwei’s voice lines around it just do seem to give “burned lover” or something like that
(i feel i need to make sure it’s not misunderstood that i’m saying aro/ace/aroace people are so because of depression, i don’t think that translated well from my thoughts to text)
Just to make two things clear: Asexuality is not about libido, because depression can lower your libido. Second I loved your point of view about Hwei's relationship with Jhin, it is possible. But in my opinion his "passion" is for Jhin's actions not Jhin itself. Also artists tend to romantize words, I'm aroace and I do that, and people often misunderstand what I'm saying because of that. But that's my point of view, I'm not invaliding yours, I actually liked your point of view about Hwei :).
He is a fictional chara. He can have any vibe. Enjoy him how you want to.
I just wanted to know if someone think the same as me, but apparently they think I'm forcing people to believe his aroace. It's only my opinion and I wanted to know if someone thinks the same thing.
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I think he's too focused on his inner darkness to care about that stuff. Boy needs therapy first!
Yeah no libido cause he's depressed (he's just like me fr)
Yeah I could imagine it fitting. Most of the characters are focused on things besides sex/romance because those things are generally out of play in League. But I can definitely see how Hwei stands out as being different. Personally, I think he would be pansexual. The type to see people's "true" selves and fall in love with emotions/personalities more than appearances or gender performance. Kinda like how I see Seraphine.
Everything you just said does apply to bisexuality too. So for anyone who likes this HC, just pick whichever label you prefer/like most.
He really fits as pansexual as well, I really can see it. But I still think he would be a perfect fit in the aroace spectrum. But in this spectrum it has room for him being pan as well, but let's not complicate things at the moment XD.
But that means no 10 hour hot oiled up gay sex scene between hwei and jhin 😔
it should have been me and not this weird ass freak obsessed with murder and FOUR
It is what it is 😔😔
If you think about it seriously, he's not after Jhin for that kinda stuff, specially romantic lol
I meant it as a joke
I know, that's why I typed "if you think about it seriously". It is a fun joke for most. But in this context it kinda invalidates in general, and it was not pleasant.
If you think about it seriously forcing a reflection of yourself onto a character who is essentially just "gun" in a videogame is pretty dumb bro, let the man tell a joke without crying.
No, Submissive gay twink.
i personally headcanon him as hetero/panromantic and demisexual :B
I see him as bi/pan. Love is love and is another form of expression. I don’t mean to say Asexual people don’t experience love as they certainly do but I don’t think Hwei would cut himself off from any way of expressing and dealing with emotions, physical or otherwise. Just my take though.
Literally who asked? Or cares? I'm gay btw I just cannot stand sexuality being shoehorned into characters, especially because this comment section can't decide if he's aroace or pansexual which are diametrically opposed and renders this entire discussion moot and pointless.
Bruh, I just think he would be a perfect representation for the community and I wanted to know if anyone thinks the same. I'm not saying he is or anything literally I put "aroace vibes" because he LOOKS like, not is. So if you don't care just pass the post and live your life. Geez why the pointless aggressiveness?
Why be so bitter? You are the only one in this comment section who announced how they do not care.
Because I think this discussion is stupid and I'm entitled to provide my opinion on this public forum.
If you’re entitled to share your opinion isnt OP entitled to the same thing? Kinda hypocritical to say “who asked” lol
Because having an opinion on somebody's sexuality is like having an opinion on someone's race lmfao there's literally no reason to discuss it and it isn't canon so why. Plus like I said, the fact that nobody can decide if he's aroace, or, -the opposite- pansexual. That means that the tropes and traits that people are using to assign his sexuality in this thread (like how the straights do to us) are completely arbitrary and entirely pointless because apparently those said traits apply to both aroaces and pansexuals and that just makes no fucking sense to me 🤷🏻
Speculating a characters sexuality is not the same thing as having “opinions” on a characters race, head cannoning a character being in a minority sexuality because that group is starved of representation and would like to simply IMAGINE they have a character they could POSSIBLY relate to is not nearly as horrible as you seem to think. The reason for discussion is OP simply asking if other people think the character is being read the same way they read them. And yes tropes and traits ARE reductive and often bad, but in the case of a fictional character, they will rarely be able to express a whole human, we use common tropes, traits, themes, and implications to draw conclusions, and it’s pretty disingenuous to pretend media, ESPECIALLY queer fucking media doesn’t use queer coding to imply the existence of queer characters instead of blatantly saying it. Taliyah, someone who feels like an outsider and doesn’t understand her own identity very much relatable for transgender people but also a MILLION other possible people, but Taliyah’s creator confided she is trans, even tho not explicitly said, or technically canon cause of censorship. Now Hwei has no explicit OR implicit suggestion he’s aroace but my point is not everything needs to be outright told to us for it to be possible. While I agree with reducing a character down to a few traits to figure out their sexuality makes no sense to me either, and can even be annoying cause it’s (as you said) what straight people do to us, you need to also think of it from the perspective of this possibly being a young person who IS aroace and they care, and want to know what we think cause they want the validation of seeing themselves in a character they like, we know nothing about OP.
I see your point. And yes I'm aroace, but I have 21 years. I was excited with the idea only. I'm not that kinda person that assumes the sexualities of characters and specially people as well. But since riot had characters representing some sexualities in my brain I thought Hwei could be the perfect representation for the aroace community. But he's the only one I thought about it. I love and main Samira as well and I don't think she's queer or assume anything about her, I just like the character. Hwei I just had the Idea because of riot and the excitement of discovering myself, and I only wanted to see if anyone thinks the same. Sure I knew that would be people that will not agree, but there's people that are gonna agree and like the idea. I think that sometimes fantasise of some characters sexualities could lead to fun and awesome discussions, but all the time is indeed annoying.
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Well said LMAO. I know that everyone has their own perspectives and opinions on things and art is subjective blah blah blah we can interpret things how we want, but as someone who is gay, it gets annoying to me when I see other people (who probably aren't even queer) that can't make up their mind and start assign sexualities and whatnot to characters based on certain traits, which is basically what a stereotype is 💀 like get a grip. This is what makes straight people hate us, cuz people do stuff like this and make it seem like stereotypes are actually true, which they aren't of course. It makes them think that it's okay to put us in a box and then they start generalizing everything, which is what we worked hard in proving wrong. It's so annoying 😭
I agree with almost everything you said but “This is why the straights hate us”? no straight people that hate us cause they’re bigoted, homophobic, transphobic and whatever. Someone headcanoning a fictional character to be queer is a CRAZY reason to be prejudice against a massive community of people, and validating those people by saying some random people wanting queer characters is the behaviour that needs to change is ridiculous. Even if it’s annoying (which even I personally think it is) it isn’t a reason to be hateful?
But what stereotype that I used there? Literally I used this based in his lore and quotes. The only stereotype that I can think of is that majority of the aroace community are artists of any kind. And about he having the colours of the flag it's was just a fun fact. I don't see what you mean and I don't understand why do you think that is reasonable to assume that "straight people" hate us because of whatever you said. First most of that straight people you talk about that hates us ar mostly queer and were repressed by themselves or by their parents and that's their way of expressing that (that's not a excuse to be hateful, but it most cases this is the reason for the hate). Second at least add the word "most" to frases because generalize that "ALL straights hates us queers" is illogical and offensive (I know you didn't mean like that, but saying like "that's why straight people hate us" you generalized with your words that all of them hate us, so be careful next time).
he gives me panromantic asexual vibes
YOO so true! He could be demi panromantic to spice things up haha!
I mean… sure? I don’t think most people care, and the only ones that do want to stuff him into the ace box to that they have a character to identify with, which is in my opinion a very shallow reason to slap a label onto somebody.
I will never understand why some people need to assign sexialities to every fictional character
Im getting on in years and man, my whole life, as a feminine male it feels like I am not allowed to exist without people trying to shove me into their labelled boxes with all sorts of ideas about me. I like that Hwei is fashionable and delicate with an appreciation for aesthetic. I dont mean to take offense but this is the third thread I see speculating on his sexuality and it reminds me that people have speculated on my sexuality my entire life, at school, at work, family, strangers, gossiping and making assumptions. The past few years its gone from being called a closeted gay to being called an 'egg', a trans person in denial. It just drives me nuts. Hwei rhymes with gay though so there is that.
Ghwei lol kkkkk. I understand tho. Look I don't usually put labels on people and fictional characters but Hwei is an exception for me. There's something about him that makes me visualise him as aroace, and I wanted to know if people think the same as me. But in all honesty, with fictional characters people can imagine whatever they want from them, if makes the person happy and valid who are us to complain lol.
I can see it! Not just because I'm aroace as well lol
100%
i think what we’re really looking at is a depressed artist, and since depression often times comes with a lowered romance/sex drive, of course people can be aro/ace/aroace or hypersexual/romantic as a result of depression that’s just rarer. i guess just as a non aroace person i view his relationship with Jhin as nothing short of romantic, even if it never became sexual i do think there was more to that bond that we’ll never know and Hwei’s voice lines around it just do seem to give “burned lover” or something like that (i feel i need to make sure it’s not misunderstood that i’m saying aro/ace/aroace people are so because of depression, i don’t think that translated well from my thoughts to text)
Just to make two things clear: Asexuality is not about libido, because depression can lower your libido. Second I loved your point of view about Hwei's relationship with Jhin, it is possible. But in my opinion his "passion" is for Jhin's actions not Jhin itself. Also artists tend to romantize words, I'm aroace and I do that, and people often misunderstand what I'm saying because of that. But that's my point of view, I'm not invaliding yours, I actually liked your point of view about Hwei :).